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  • #128861
    Germ
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    The UK Government spent £1 Billion of tax payers money on 2.2 million courses of a drug they said was ‘game changing’ costing £450 per course.

    That’s a thousand million pounds.
    That’s a lot of Ivermectin!

    It didn’t work so they’ve stopped using it!
    Refund? Of course not.

    https://t.co/4Zm6mQLSik

    TVASF

    #128862
    Germ
    Participant

    #128863
    Rover
    Participant

    Well stated, @ phoenixvoice. It can be quite tiresome to read or hear tropes that are used to slander humanity in its current “civilized” state.

    #128864
    Germ
    Participant

    We went too far with Covid restrictions, says Germany’s pro-lockdown minister

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/02/10/went-far-covid-restrictions-says-germanys-pro-lockdown-minister/

    We gassed too many Jews, said Adolf after shaving of his moustache.

    #128865
    zerosum
    Participant

    The old farts at TAE are still here, against all odds

    ” after a pandemic the excess deaths should be lower not higher, as the weaker, ‘dead wood’ would have already been cleared out leaving the healthier and stronger.

    This is alarming and should be properly investigated.”

    #128866
    jb-hb
    Participant

    phoenixvoice – while I don’t just suspect, I feel sure you can teach me about the finer points of marxism/communism as opposed to being taught AND that you have many insightful things to say – which I look forward to – on the subject….

    The following ARE Marxist ideas which have been pervading our culture for the past 8-10 years
    –Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals
    –Intersectionality
    –“Critical” Theory
    –False Consciousness (re-branded into race, gender, environmentalism, etc)
    –The Inherent Oppression In The System

    etc.

    All these things took the route from continental Marxism/Communism, through 70’s/80’s Marxist Sociology Professors Who Hate You and on into universities and corporations

    The mere fact that the corporations have adopted the New Thinking wholesale doesn’t change where it came from nor the purpose of Marxists who developed it.

    Where is Communism and Marxism then? If everywhere we look, every Marxist idea being expressed via NGO’s, Universities, Corporations, activists, etc are NOT Marxism? You can draw a line straight back from Nike and Gilette advertising back to Engels.

    #128867
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    ‘As for the in-fighting in the Comments section on TAE, I have had enough of it. Probably some others have as well. How about if people stop calling each other rude names and instead write about what they know, on politics, medicine and everyday life?

    If you want to insult people, why don’t you start your own blog instead of burdening TAE with your nonsense and name-calling?’

    In essence, agree with that stance.

    On the other hand, since many humans are nasty, manipulative creatures that like to feel superior to others and like to try force others to conform to their unscientific (anti-scientific) preconceived narratives/opinions and to denigrate anyone who disagrees, it is good to be reminded of that fact that not all people are well-informed, kind and cooperative. Indeed, a substantial portion of any population is uninformed, stupid, manipulative, selfish, greedy and cowardly and yet potentially vicious.

    In NATOstan countries people with those traits tend to congregate into politics and bureaucracies. And in a lot of non-NATOstan countries too.

    But such traits are not confined to the scum that have risen to the top of the financial-political-power pyramid of Airstrips. Airstrips are riddled with such people at all levels.

    My manipulative, uninformed, psychotic neighbour took to firing water over the fence yesterday evening because I decided to move my lawns at around 5pm. That is the neighbour who was taken by ambulance, following a heart incident.

    We know that one of the symptoms of the death jabs is impaired cognitive capacity. Indeed, a combination of impaired capacity to think and a stubborn refusal to look at the evidence is what caused so many to line up for the death jabs in the first place.

    I carried on mowing. But I did stop to remind my nutty neighbour that the Scorpion, the cowardly liar that my nutty neighbour so adored, had run, as all cowardly liars do.

    There are Jezzabels everywhere. And Quislings.

    #128868
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    What has been missing from recent discussion is the deliberate manipulation of the populace of Airstrips by corporations using the techniques developed and promoted by Bernays, nephew of Freud, from the 1920s on.

    ‘How Edward Bernays’ Manipulation Through Propaganda Became Marketing History’

    https://medium.com/history-of-yesterday/how-edward-bernays-manipulation-through-propaganda-became-marketing-history-d916cafa928d

    Adam Curtis produced an excellent documentary on the matter: The Century if the Self.

    #128869
    Polemos
    Participant

    The mere fact that the corporations have adopted the New Thinking wholesale doesn’t change where it came from nor the purpose of Marxists who developed it.

    One of the fascinating things with Leszek Kołakowski’s Main Currents of Marxism (Worldcat) is how he doesn’t start with Marx, but with Plotinus! So, could one say that what gets called Marxism is really Neo-Platonism, given the line of thinking?

    Universities, corporations, activists used to also espouse a lot of patriotic values and slogans, but it’s not clear they were nationalists for ideological purposes. Maybe there’s a more cynical explanation here, along the lines of “fitting in” with a society to smooth over economic and political relations?

    A person might also want to explore how the takeover of various corporations occurs as a result of (nation-state/transnational) intelligence activity, one goal being weaponized “Go woke, go broke” as a disruption of the inner culture and policies of rival corporations/nations to effect more chaotic, dysfunctional outcomes. Causing a rival to expend resources having to deal with social disruptions within the workforce is analogous with, say, shouting at an opponent in a high-pitched voice to disorient them or getting inside their heads and causing doubts, fears, and confusion. Of course, this is also analogous with, say, turning a person’s immune system against themselves in order to sabotage and disrupt them, weakening them and opening them up to all manner of obstacles and dangers, and thus removing them from play.

    A hyperdimensional war with multiple front lines, fully involving contemporary awareness of not only nonlocality but nontemporality in physics, will result in oddities and disconcerting moves for the person who still conceives of war as strictly kinetic, maybe biological, hopefully never nuclear, but something that occurs at the other end of a trigger fingered by a madman. But, given that all these wars occur within the context of a material world subsisting upon an undivided unity of a total superposition of states, it’s wrong to limit one’s attention to just how bombs fall. Full Spectrum Dominance does not just stop at including “space” with land, air, and sea; consciousness as focusing of the noetic field —the Mind— is also part of the spectrum for military action. I know this is outlandish for someone to consider when it just makes sense to talk only about F-22s, Abrams tanks, S-400s, NOTAM activations over Michigan (after NOTAM mysteriously goes down all at once not long ago?), $21 trillion in missing DoD money, and so on. I know it’s easier to think that causality, like time’s arrow, is only ever one direction, since that’s all we ever know. Right? It’s probably better to just talk about the -isms of political theories, right up to the point of connecting neurolinguistic programming in the form of memetics with manipulations of mental focus and creative intentionality that used to be called “magic.”

    (And yet, don’t you find it irresistible to think there’s still a stage magician lost from Kansas somewhere behind a curtain you cannot see, in that Emerald City all the dirty blond bricks lead to?)

    #128870
    kultsommer
    Participant

    @Rover
    You just ruined post-phoenix-comment beautiful deafening silence interrupted only by the large metallic green fly hitting the window glass in regular intervals.

    #128871
    zerosum
    Participant

    Invasion of the balloons.
    Fourth balloon shot down. This one is over great lakes.

    #128872
    Germ
    Participant

    “I can tell you my phone rings every single week, almost every day I have a pilot calling me with cardiac issues…or neurological dysfunction”

    TVASF

    #128873
    Germ
    Participant

    TVASF

    #128874
    Germ
    Participant

    Watch:

    Vanden Bossche and Alexander: Stop COVID vaccines, elderly could be killed, do not give to children

    https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/vanden-bossche-and-alexander-stop-covid-vaccines-elderly-could-be-killed-do-not-give-to-children

    TVASF

    #128875
    citizenx
    Participant

    Yes yes- let’s all hold hands and do a few rounds of paddy cakes with kumbaya

    It’s not like there’s a genocide orchestrated by the U$$A force raping children and adults with poison Vaxs and virus. Nothing to see here….

    Not like the U$$A and its Western minions are orchestrating WW3 and murdering 100ks of humans, again

    Why would people who care and seek truth call out others harshly in “times like these” when “we’re all in this together” ?

    Oww, you hurt my feelings, please stop. Meanwhile a murderous agenda unfolds- right in your f’n face up your ass. Can’t we all just roll over and get along?

    Anger can be used constructively and productively. You go ahead and stay on the clap a long sidelines.
    Real humans with conscious intent will fight back against the scum destroying all life…

    Oww my feelings hurt. Go get your kids boosted and make sure they join the military…

    #128876
    Germ
    Participant

    They couldn’t keep it buried forever.
    Predictably MSM are now attributing every possible excuse why there is such high excess mortality.

    It’s everything except the huge elephant in the room – the death-vaxx.
    They just can’t admit they were played.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/health/2023/02/11/excess-deaths-in-ireland-and-beyond-what-is-behind-the-surge-in-mortality-rates/

    TVASF

    #128877
    Germ
    Participant

    Expect a colour revolution in Budapst in 3…2…1……

    Hungary is fucked.

    #128878
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Regarding Lula,
    I thought he was a good guy but apparently not or who knows. Injecting the kids with mRNA poison would make him a bad guy.

    #128879
    Germ
    Participant

    They’re coming for your fucking children and grand children!

    Watch:

    When Ultron attacks, the Avengers use their past battles to adapt and protect the world! Watch ‘Avengers: Everyday Heroes,’ a new collaboration with Pfizer, and learn how you can be an everyday hero.

    https://www.marvel.com/pfizereverydayheroes#video-4

    TVASF

    #128880
    Germ
    Participant

    Listen hard, can you hear the official silence? Its deafening.

    TVASF

    #128881
    Germ
    Participant

    TVASF

    #128882
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @Germ, thanks for the Clapton video link ~ The info/comments which connects to Dr. Makis’ substack entry is *very* insightful & reaffirms what many here already know:

    Dr. Makis,
    Are you familiar with the work of Dr. Bryan Ardis? He has a working theory that the spike protein includes multiple snake venom, and he recommends nicotine and/or licorice to people who have been ‘spiked’, to block the toxins from attacking the cells. I wonder if some of the neurological problems could be eased with those substances. Also, Dr. Robert Scott Bell says that colloidal silver will repair nerve damage. And then there is the work of Dr. Ed Group on the benefits of drinking urine, which is how people have survived very toxic snake bites and jellyfish stings. Food for thought.

    Dr. William Makis MD:
    The spike protein has surprises in its sequence. Nobody knows what that means clinically.

    janieM80:
    The spike protein is a chimera. It has gene sequence homologs to HIV, SEB, malaria, rabies, influenza, snake venom, cone snail venom and many more. This has been shown by a few different labs now, Prashant Pradhan, Kostantinos Poulas, and Carlo Brogna.

    The spike protein is a chimera. It has gene sequence homologs to HIV, SEB, malaria, rabies, influenza, snake venom, cone snail venom and many more. This has been shown by a few different labs now, Prashant Pradhan, Kostantinos Poulas, and Carlo Brogna.

    In my hypothesis these sequences cause similar pathophysiological mechanisms to the original lethal organisms: micro clots, hyper inflammation, immune deficiency etc. The parallel symptoms are remarkable, ie. migraines in malaria and COVID, the viral pathway through the nervous system in rabies and COVID.

    Covid and envenomation also share several common mechanisms Von Willenbrand Factor, Kinin Kallikrein Pathway, netosis, clotting cascade, etc. The images of the micro clots produced in the blood of snake bite patients are the same as the images of COVID/LongCovid micro clots. #Bioweapon

    Ashley:
    I’m Postpartum RN in suburb of Atlanta, Ga. My friend/coworker collapsed at our nursing station last April and died. She was healthy prior to “vaccine”. I tried discouraging her from getting it but she felt the need to protect her husband with heart issues. Her entire left side went numb same day. She slowly recovered and a few months later got the mandated flu “vaccine”. She had a TIA same day and was hospitalized where we work. She went on to have 2 more TIAs in 5 days. She slowly recovered and came back to work. We called Code Blue and administered CPR and pushed crash cart meds for a hour. I had to call her husband. He got there and soon after time of death was called. I have NO doubt my friend was murdered intentionally by our own government and big pharma. I’m devastated and will never forget seeing my friend’s blue body lying lifeless on the floor.

    ipmala:
    Clapton was *STUPID* to take the Covid vaccine. He listened to all the Liberal bullshit in the UK. I don’t feel sorry for him…. not even one bit. There is no excuse for STUPIDITY.

    Patriot:
    Many millions took the clot-shots… they are not all stupid… they were convinced by a totally corrupt media, which was doing the bidding of Big Pharma, the slimy CDC/NIH/WHO, the WEF and some other VERY evil people… like Gates.

    Katherine:
    When I heard Dr. Judy Mikovitts say it was a bioweapon, my brain just couldn’t take it in, it felt so unreal. Dystopian. Impossible.

    But now I have no doubt whatsoever that the vaccine is a bioweapon, designed to injure, kill, and sterilize. It is “toxic by design,” as Dr. Mike Yeadon so accurately states. So, our Government, or rather a secret group within it, is working to kill off or control all of the Formerly Free World.

    However, they sure woke a lot of people up in the process, and I see no sign of any of us backing down!

    I do believe that with God’s Grace we will make it through, if we all do our part, but nothing is certain. It looks like WWlll to me.

    #128883

    What if a nation said this to a “friend”:
    “Surrender right now or you’re facing the end.
    We make the replacements for your war machine
    We built your computers with holes yet unseen.

    “You’ve already lost so don’t try to fight back
    Your stuff doesn’t work and you cannot attack.
    So clean out your excessive losers today
    We’re coming we’re coming- you’ve long paved the way.”

    So the orders were given; now they’re being obeyed.
    We’re dying, we’re dying- t’was a game too well-played.

    #128884
    Dr. D
    Participant

    3 round objects in a day? Sounds like they’ve run out of plans and are going to try for “Alien Invasion”.

    It’s rough because the Left and the Wokesters call THEMSELVES Socialists. Yes, that is off base since they themselves don’t know what they are, what they stand for, but they BELIEVE they stand for Marx and sharing. At the same time, almost all “Socialist” systems, not Socialist-lite like ours, ARE totalitarian. And it’s not a coincidence: they HAVE to be, since nobody’s going to work for nothing. Or at all. So they have to be made to work and obey by force. These rogue elements either not working or working for themselves must be identified and destroyed, so there must be a totalitarian, involuntary state. Not like peanut butter and jelly, but like banana and the peel.

    So THEY think they are Socialist, stand for Socialism, and Marx redistribution of wealth, AND the historic examples we have of it are ALSO totalitarian, so what do you want me to do? Call them liars and say the Soviets never tried Marxism? We’ve got enough problems with people misidentifying things, this is an argument out of Pluto – nobody’s even going to field it, but ignore you and go back to what they were doing.

    Again, what we call the “Left”, and the spectrum all the way out to HRC: AOC is a proud card-carrying member Democratic Socialist Party. I didn’t make her do that. And it’s fine if she is, I just disagree and want her to not be hypocritical about it. Antifa is trained as, and proudly saying they are also Marxists and Democratic Socialists. The very name “Antifa” and the flag is from that. Bernie Sanders is glad to say he supports Socialism and honeymooned in the USSR. BLM was on TV saying they are “trained marxists”. What’s to misunderstand? THEY say this. So they disagree with you. This is broadly considered to be the “Far left”, with gradations moving through Sanders, a DNC presidential candidate, through the middle like Rogan and Pool who strongly support nationalized health care and wealth redistribution, all the way to Biden and Hillary who may pretend to support the same platforms although they never pass the legislation and support corporations instead.

    Of course there is a gradient on the Right as well, although it’s completely misunderstood and in America virtually never goes to “Authoritarian” but only to “Libertarian”. There are some Right authoritarians but they seem wiped out after Iraq and virtually nonexistent right now. It only goes as far as “Status quo”, which is identical to the Biden/HRC actual position. The Uniparty, as we often complain. But there is zero far-right “The government should control and decide everything and we should obey them” party. This is a big problem because if it ever existed – barely – we’re now 20 years since then and yet there are accusations and behavior, that it exists, responses and explanations as if that thing that was never true is, half the country is accused of a thing they aren’t, and how they need to vigorously respond to a group and behavior that doesn’t exist at all. They’re shooting at smoke and shadows and as we’ve seen, that is dangerous as h—l. The Right isn’t going to fix things: that’s our job, the People. But they also don’t cause additional problems ‘cause we’ve got enough already.

    We seem to be in a fully post-communist, but also post-capitalist phase. Obviously there is no “real communism” as the joke goes, but even the attempted Soviet communism doesn’t seem to exist anywhere. NoKo may be closest but with as little organic people’s support as they have, it’s almost in name only, like not a wooden Indian, but now a picture of a former wooden Indian. There are some attempts like Argentina, but they’re really no more than kleptocracies, both having businesses, and no earnest attempt at the people’s welfare.

    Capitalism is scarcely different, being regulated within an inch of its life worldwide, such that the government has co-equal power over it almost everywhere, and business buying government to insure all actions. Whether that is better or not, it’s not in the range of “Capitalism”, and monopolies are the order of the day nearly everywhere, universally upheld with government force. Along with no bankruptcy and no honest market pricing, and there is no “Capitalism” remaining. Try to open a taco stand by the park or bake a cake in your garage and it’s clap-irons for you.

    So we are post-both, and both sides have done a sort of merger in the middle, very similar to each other: everyone against the people. As Acton said, “The Banks against the People”?

    I wouldn’t be overly hard on people who took or support the vax as this was truly the greatest op in world history, eclipsing D-Day by 1000x. It’s also counterproductive or can be. Sure some people can be reached with kindness, yet some can only be reached with a smack to the head. (Me, sometimes) So we have different ways and different recipients. That’s okay. Maybe when you’re saying “get in the lifeboats” you don’t have time to say “Pretty please” but should just chuck anyone you can find off the Titanic into the dingy. Is that compassion or aggression? It’s hard to say. Horse for courses.

    #128885
    That Bloke
    Participant

    Anybody have the misfortune of following Guardian “journalist” George Monbiot on Twitter? Well, he’s got a fantastic track record of getting it wrong and backing the wrong side but he never admits it and he never backs down, so there’s that.

    His main topic is climate change and he’s right there with Al Gore and his boiling oceans, plus we’ve all got to stop eating meat.

    On Syria he fell hook, line and sinker for the chemical weapon ruse.

    When they dropped the mask mandates in the UK he extolled his readers and followers to continue masking up anyway as it was “the right thing to do.” He pushed the jabs relentlessly, even though he caught Covid several times after getting his shots. And now he’s picked a fight with Aseem Malhotra telling him that he shouldn’t be pedalling conspiracy theories as they’re dangerous.

    What a piece of work, but that’s The Grauniad for you.

    #128886
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Internationally renowned DJ, composer, songwriter Tyson Illingworth suffers Moderna vaccine injuries:

    The Australian medical and health system has failed me and is now actively destroying the right to choose a treatment and the Doctor/Patient relationship – and what is concerning is they are now coming for you too.

    “In October that same year (2021) I received my first vaccination (Moderna). Within days I started to feel severe and unbearable shooting pain and paralysis in my hands and feet”

    “Over time my condition worsened; I asked the doctors at the hospital if I would ever walk ‘properly’ again, and they would not give me an answer”

    “Shortly after the second shot my injuries were further exacerbated and I was unable to move, my hands felt like they were on fire…I was rushed to hospital once again, and I thought my life was over”

    “I continue to suffer severe ongoing pain due to Neuropathy and neurological nerve damage due to the Moderna Spike Vax….neuropathy was not listed on any of my consent forms

    In Australia doctors are investigated and disciplined if they confirm in writing that a COVID vaccine has caused a patient injury. I had 5 different doctors confirm that my condition was caused by the vaccine, and they all said they cannot go on record.”

    Tyson Illingworth: Vaccine damaged in Australia

    #128887
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Down below in the Clickbait: We’ve Already Lost All These Stars Just One Month Into 2023
    https://www.zergnet.com/i/7635485/91350/0/0/271768048/2

    Really? Nope: we both have a higher number of deaths, noted by g-d- everyone, Taylor Lorenz, TMZ, NY Times, Irish Times, AND no one died and nothing strange is going on. Both! Neither!

    Yeah, describing DoubleThink is nothing compared to seeing it in person. I gave up, I told you, whatever.

    #128888
    Germ
    Participant

    @ That Bloke

    #128889
    Germ
    Participant

    TVASF (and very, very gullible)

    #128890
    Germ
    Participant

    TVASF (and they know it)

    #128891

    Nah. It’s ALIENS!!!!!!!
    They’re everywhere! Who was it that said “Then it will be aliens”- W. v. Braun?
    [Punctuation corrections for above: period after “machine”, “back”. Dash after “today”. Comma after first “we’re coming”.]

    #128892
    Germ
    Participant

    Return to the city? Living in the country could be the worst thing for your heart

    https://studyfinds.org/city-living-rural-heart-failure/

    What a hoot.
    And some folks will believe this guff.

    TVASF

    #128893
    aspnaz
    Participant

    upstateNYer said

    aspnaz, who are we to judge anyone, much less “condemn” them?

    I am happy to judge, nature gave me that ability so that I can use it to learn from others and make sure I do not make the same mistakes as others. Who are we to judge, we all can judge, we all should judge, judgement is not reserved for anyone special, judging is how we discern good from bad. As for condemn, I am not condemning them, I am stating my opinion which is that her children will have a very unhappy time in Zelensky’s army.

    #128894
    Curlene48
    Participant

    citizenx … Asking that people refrain from name-calling and hurling insults in the Comments section of TAE is hardly equivalent to asking that we all join hands and sing Kumbaya together. Clearly we who read this blog are largely in agreement that things are VERY much fucked-up, and those in charge of the world are evil greedy psychopaths. Have no intention of singing Kumbaya with them any time soon.
    Phoenixvoice … thanks for your remarks, and Rover for seconding them. When we mean “tyrannical” let’s say “tyrannical”. When we mean “anti-democratic” let’s use that term.
    Marxism is a way of looking at the class-based structure of the world and the ownership and control of the means of production. “Marxism” is not a synonym for “tyrannical” even if some so-called Marxist governments have turned out to be tyrannical. Plenty of capitalistic societies are also ruled by tyrants.
    There is no way Klaus Schwab is a Marxist, since he is very much in favor of the capitalist system and is a billionaire himself. Likewise Gates, etc. They may be borrowing some left-sounding (and woke-sounding) rhetoric, but that doesn’t mean they are Marxists.
    Phoenixvoice said it very well. Thank you, Phoenixvoice, for raising this issue again.

    #128895
    Redneck
    Participant

    The World has always been like this. Right now we have one of the most peaceful times in history.
    Never the less I am sure your little ramblings here are going to stop all war and malfeasance for ever ……Not!

    #128896
    jb-hb
    Participant

    It isn’t totally useless to say “THEY aren’t marxists/communists/socialists”

    I mean, you can draw a line from Marx & Engels through the western universities to the current wokeism. Not a dotted line, either.

    But delineating distinctions – who ISN’T truly that, WHEN did it break off, WHICH things, ideas, people,organizations, governments, books, etc aren’t and which truly are – why – would be neccessary

    because there’s a large crowd of academics as well as activists and others with a continuity of ideas stretching back for decades, as well as consistent messaging, claims of what they are, and so on.

    Like, it would take some work to really draw those distinctions meaningfully but could be useful or at least interesting.

    The current New Thinking definitely goes back through 100+ years of Marxism. For example, when the USSR annexed Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, what did they do? Disbanded the police and replaced them with marxist militias. And what did we see in 2020? Disband the police. Police stations getting abandoned or even burned down. Police-free zones set up run by marxist militias ala CHAZ/CHOP in every major city in the US. Why so super-similar?

    #128897
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “There is no way Klaus Schwab is a Marxist, since he is very much in favor of the capitalist system and is a billionaire himself”

    There’s still a bit of confusion there – It’s just that governments, corporations, and NGO’s are currently churning out Marxist messaging, and a lot of what Schwab and other rich dudes say is aligned with it, and it certainly appears that bagillions of dollars are being funneled into the Marxist messaging, policies, etc – like, is all the Wokeist Marxist stuff being funded by the proletariat?!?!? The massive amounts of money are coming from somewhere.

    He’s hardly for freely trading value for value without coercion. How could he be for capitalism?

    #128898
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #128899
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @Curlene48

    Sorry I don’t live near Philly. I’ve driven through it multiple times over the decades always after Midnight on long distance hauls.

    I just remember W. C. Fields describing Philadelphia as “a cemetery with lights” ;>)

    Sailing to Philadelphia

    Mark Knopfler – about Jeremiah Dixon

    #128900
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

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