Debt Rattle February 13 2022
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February 13, 2022 at 7:20 pm #101091
Oroboros
ParticipantI’m glad you advised women to consider the health risks of the shot and I’m sorry that contributed to you losing your job, but I’ll bet you did not warn young men of their reproductive risks from taking the Killshot and that ironically, might end up being a far more damaging result to men’s reproductive health than women’s.
The ‘go to position’ of every bad guy in human history who is finally caught is that punishing them is ‘revenge’ not justice.
They are the victim
Gaslighting when caught.
Works more often than not.
The bad guys aren’t the problem, you’re the problem because your motives aren’t Pure.
This is now the Religious Plague of Woketardistan the world is enduring.
Maybe the millions of cops and soldiers, good or bad, who become sterile from the Fakedemic Clotshot are actually an expression of Karma.
February 13, 2022 at 7:35 pm #101092boscohorowitz
Participant“I can’t afford to be in private practice. The compliance expense is staggering, and I’m no good at extracting money.”
Not as an acknowledged MD insurance companies will pay, but as a doc who accepts cash and eggs?
February 13, 2022 at 7:53 pm #101093boscohorowitz
ParticipantI’ve decided to grant def human status albeit with major troll DNA tweaks.
Congrats, def: you are now simply a mere asshole. Well, at least a dipstick. I was flattering you when I considered you were an argubot thingie, which is actually an upgrade from what you’ve displayed.
Nobody likes you and nobody believes you. Robot? Masochist? Paid troll? They all smell alike to me.
If your ego is involved in all this, assuming you have one, it’s either not having a good time or can’t tell the difference between a caress and a roundhouse kick.
February 13, 2022 at 7:56 pm #101094boscohorowitz
ParticipantIf you’re in jail, def, let us know. I’ll cut you some slack for that. Entertainment is hard to come by in the tank. Maybe you’re really that lonely. But if you’re a free human walking about, you’re a walking advertisement for incarceration.
February 13, 2022 at 8:09 pm #101095John Day
Participant@Oroboros: I told men and women the data available to at whatever time I met them. I advised healthy men under 50 to wait-and-see, to take vitamin-D, and to ask for me if they tested positive and wanted antiviral treatment
February 13, 2022 at 8:11 pm #101096John Day
Participant@Boscohorowitz: I cannot afford to comply with the legally mandated costs of practicing medicine in Texas, which was different in 1992-1994, the last time I did that.
February 13, 2022 at 8:18 pm #101097February 13, 2022 at 8:33 pm #101098D Benton Smith
ParticipantDamn !! Just when I had completely given up on you, you respond in your own sane voice actually saying what you genuinely think. Well, good. Let’s talk.
Here is the thing. I can’t speak for others here on TAE and elsewhere, but I can report for myself in complete earnest that I have “gone back to school” and studied more hard-core cellular and molecular biology than I would ever choose to inflict on anyone in a dozen lifetimes. I have the credentials to assert without bragging that I understood everything that I studied. My conclusions (so far as it’s possible to “conclude” very much in a developing chaos) are without significant doubt or reservation. SARS CoV-2 and the mRNA injections were ( and are) very thoroughly premeditated lethal bioweapons, and they are still in fully offensive deployment, to devastating and ongoing effect. The basic stats and stat analyses and minimum projections are inescapable and truly terrifying.
Because Civilization is inseparable from its institutions the events consequential to Covid-19 have dragged the entire world into a crisis of unprecedented proportions in recorded history. The cascade of fracturing interdependent institutionalized systems of EVERY kind has only just started. It’s a long way to the bottom . No one really grasps how far it could or will go. Some fairly credentialed folks are more than a little sure that what’s coming will match or exceed the Bronze Age Collapse.
The wild card is that the same corrupt, evil, broken and ineffectual institutions that CAUSED the problem are the very selfsame institutionalized combined strength that we need in order to fix what’s broke. We’re in a real conundrum, a bootstrap situation where the bootstraps are wrapped around our neck like an errant umbilical cord.
If you set aside emotion and study the scientific source materials that existed BEFOREHAND, then you would arrive at the same conclusions. Not because you should, but because there is no other way it can be.
February 13, 2022 at 8:34 pm #101099Bill7
ParticipantI hesitate to post this, and maybe it’s already been linked here, but the disingenuousness and feigned ignorance
in this piece at the Guardian on the Truckers is (maybe) worth seeing:HONK HONK
February 13, 2022 at 8:38 pm #101100Bill7
ParticipantAnd Matt Taibbi on the same topic- not sure just what to make of what’s written here (I think he’s in a tough spot):
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-great-international-convoy-fiasco
February 13, 2022 at 8:43 pm #101101phoenixvoice
Participant@ John Day – Thank you for your well-wishes. The children and I are doing well. 🙂
Regarding the Canadian trucker protest — of course I do not idealogically align with all of the protestors, or even the leaders of this protest movement in every area. However, since the protest is specifically regarding vaccine mandates and other covid-related issues, it is maintaining integrity to those issues, and I do see a great deal of effort on the part of the protestors to remain peaceful, I don’t have a problem with the fact that I differ idealogically on issues that are not being addressed by this movement.
I do see how sumac.carol would have more concerns in this area — should the leaders of the trucker movement gain widespread public approval they may be able to use this approval to catapult themselves into political positions of power and then their other ideologies might come to the forefront. In life, our choices are seldom black or white. The future is unwritten.
I AM troubled greatly by the behavior and attitudes from my local UU congregation that I am increasingly separated from. It was a haven for me. I found a lot of idealogical congruence there. I find it shocking that so many there are blind to how they have abandoned their core principles — they don’t even realize that they have done so. Personally, I would prefer to attend the protest in Ottawa with people who openly say that “climate change isn’t real” than hang out with people who say that they are defenders of liberalism but want “misinformation” banned from the internet and those who promote “misinformation” muzzled and possibly jailed, or who think that the “unvaccinated” should be perpetually banned from society and pressured into conformity by denying them the ability to make a living. I can find common ground with “climate change deniers” and a way to move forward…I don’t know how to do that with people who claim that they are for “free speech” but find a way to argue in support of banning any public speech that doesn’t agree with the TNI.
February 13, 2022 at 9:07 pm #101102Maxwell Quest
ParticipantMany thanks to Ilargi’s blog and all the commentariat for providing a safe harbor during the Covid storm. It’s been on my mind lately, so just had to put that out there. I calls ‘em as I sees ‘em. It’s also nice to see some new faces in the comment section. New perspectives are always welcome. It doesn’t mean we all agree, like that bunch of bobble-headed VP’s trailing behind the CEO in National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation.
Hell, it wasn’t that long ago that Herr Docktor was taking flack for calling into question all the early pandemic statistics, at a time when many of us were still hypnotized by them. He turned out to be right, and through cogent persuasion brought most of us around one by one. Well done, Dr. D!
Like some others, I’ve also been struggling with the morality of using violence against an oppressive state apparatus, especially one that’s made it clear they want to murder you. Many of us were trained by the examples of Gandhi and MLK, that peaceful non-compliance is the only true and moral path for change. Maybe this is why the state made such super-duper national heroes out of these men, once they were safely dispatched from the scene? Then I come across a quote like below, and am forced to rethink it all again:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” – Aeksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
February 13, 2022 at 9:50 pm #101103Susmarie108
Participant@sumac – sorry to see you sign off. Have appreciated your perspective.
The Russell Brand link from Dr. D is insightful. Clearly, every movement challenging TPTB gets corrupted. What is stunning is how “the game is played” these days; the tools used and depth/degree of the infiltration/corruption is mind-blowing. I saw if first-hand when I was involved in the Occupy Wall Street protests, things have only gotten worse since then. No movement, on either side of anything can claim purity.
My experience teaches me to never dismiss the Great Unseen Progress that occurs in peoples HEARTS when they go out into the community/centers of influence and take a stand against some injustice and or thing they feel strongly about. Something inside changes. Perhaps not now, but at some future moment in time – that REALIZATION – will re-ignite and play a larger role in the development of the next phase.
LOVE to you Carol. LOVE to All.
February 13, 2022 at 10:08 pm #101104John Day
ParticipantThanks Oroboros: Maybe I was one in more than 100 doctors in Austin.
I’ve been furloughed indefinitely for it, but life is far from over.
@Phoenixvoice: Hypocricy alienates me, too. I’m glad “the kids are alright”.@D Benton Smith: and “deflationista” May your minds meet, but “it’s hard to get a man to understand something when his job depends on him not understanding it”. Understanding may not be reflected directly, but it may still be humanly beneficial in the longer term.
February 13, 2022 at 10:16 pm #101106John Day
ParticipantA picture dining on the screen porch yesterday after some finishing work, and a few of the links are here:https://www.johndayblog.com/2022/02/ambassadors-of-democracy.html
Professor Anthony Hall, in Canada: The Truckers Take Abuse in Ottawa: COVID Crimes Committed Behind the Cover of “Emergency Measures”
…These claims of emergency have never been seriously spelled out, let alone proven, in front of judges. Hence our judges have shown themselves to be unequal to the responsibilities of defending the rule of law when it is most subject to severe attack…
Trudeau seems to have come unhinged in his lunatic obsession to only talk about, rather than with, the representatives of the Canadian Truckers’ Convoy. The truckers are holding their ground in Ottawa until they are invited to negotiate terms with Canada’s national government…
Trudeau makes no allowance for the fact that the truckers have attracted large and enthusiastic support when they wheeled across the country. In doing so they became envoys of a demonstrable popular upsurge felt by many Canadians...The Truckers Take Abuse in Ottawa: COVID Crimes Committed Behind the Cover of “Emergency Measures”
That looks like more than 10,000 Australians to me, but it’s hard to count. Where’s Waldo?
Thousands of protesters marched through Australia’s capital to the parliament building on Saturday to decry Covid-19 vaccine mandates, the latest in a string of rallies against pandemic restrictions around the world.
Demonstrators packed Canberra’s streets before massing outside the parliament, some waving the red Australian ensign flag associated with “sovereign citizens” who believe national laws do not apply to them.
Protesters, many with children, rallied under bright skies brandishing banners proclaiming “Fight for Your Freedom & Rights”, “Free Aus Freedom Now”, or “No forced drugs” written above a symbol of a syringe.
Police estimated there were up to 10,000 protesters. They were “generally well behaved”, a police spokesman said. https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2022/02/770854/thousands-protest-vaccine-mandates-australian-capitalFebruary 13, 2022 at 10:20 pm #101109John Day
ParticipantAmerica asks: “A war with Russia? Before or after the Super Bowl?” Pepe Escobar has the diplomacy story.
French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire – the inspiration for one of the main characters in Michel Houellebecq’s cracking new book, Anéantir – said that the launch of Nord Stream 2 “is one of the main components of de-escalating tensions on the Russian-Ukrainian border.” Gallic flair formulated out loud what no German had the balls to say.
In Kiev, after his stint in Moscow, it looks like Macron properly told Zelensky which way the wind blows now. Zelensky hastily confirmed Ukraine is ready to implement the Minsk agreements; it never was, for seven long years. He also said he expects to hold a summit in the Normandy format – Kiev, the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, Germany and France – “in the near future”. A meeting of Normandy format political advisers will happen in Berlin on Thursday. A few sharp minds in the Beltway, emailing their networks, did notice in my column how “the goal of Russian and Chinese policy is to recruit Germany into a triple alliance locking together the Eurasian land mass a la Mackinder into the greatest geopolitical alliance in history, switching world power in favor of these three great powers against Anglo-Saxon sea power.”
Now, a very high-level Deep State intel source, retired, comes down to the nitty gritty, pointing out how “the secret negotiations between Russia and the US center around missiles going into Eastern Europe, as the US frantically drives for completing its development of hypersonic missiles.”
The main point is that if the US places such hypersonic missiles in Romania and Poland, as planned, the time for them to reach Moscow would be 1/10 the time of a Tomahawk. It’s even worse for Russia if they are placed in the Baltics. The source notes, “the US plan is to neutralize the more advanced defensive missile systems that seal Russia’s airspace. This is why the US has offered to allow Russia to inspect these missile sites in the future, to prove that there are no hypersonic nuclear missiles. Yet that’s not a solution, as the Raytheon missile launchers can handle both offensive and defensive missiles, so it’s possible to sneak in the offensive missiles at night. Thus everything requires continuous observation.”Battle of nerves? Game of chicken?
Both US & Russia Evacuate Embassies in Kiev Ukraine
“Military action may commence at any time and without warning,” the US has said.
Russia’s Foreign Ministry too has confirmed it’s reducing its diplomatic presence in the country, including its embassy and consulates. A statement says Moscow fears “possible provocations from the Kyiv regime or third countries” that could “seriously complicate the security situation.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-tells-americans-ukraine-leave-now-things-could-go-crazy-quicklyBiden is rooting for Russia to invade Ukraine, Tulsi Gabbard says (from Russia Today)
“I have a hard time seeing how President Biden or anyone can say with an honest face, ‘We are defending democracy,’” Gabbard told Carlson. “And the reason is because our own government has publicly supported these authoritarian actions by the Ukrainian president in shutting down their own political opposition … This sounds familiar to some of the things that unfortunately, we’re seeing play out right here at home.”
https://www.rt.com/news/549182-gabbard-says-biden-wants-russia-ukraine-war/February 13, 2022 at 10:20 pm #101110John Day
ParticipantGoing for a bike ride now. super Bowl Sunday is always good for that.
February 13, 2022 at 10:30 pm #101111boscohorowitz
ParticipantMos def, Maxwell Q.
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“Some fairly credentialed folks are more than a little sure that what’s coming will match or exceed the Bronze Age Collapse.”
I have no credentials but I quite agree.
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“Damn !! Just when I had completely given up on you, you respond in your own sane voice actually saying what you genuinely think. Well, good. Let’s talk.”I figured it was its handler speaking. def mostly writes shitty one-liners and posts inane twitter links. And if that’s sane, well, who needs meshuga?
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Headline from the Guardian article Bill7 shared:
The global ‘freedom movement’ is a carnival of crank and conspiracy – and very dangerous m
Hey, it’s official. There’s a global freedom movement. Yahoo!
As for Taibbi: limited hangout. He broke through to the bigtime by selling out to Rolling Stone.
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“should the leaders of the trucker movement gain widespread public approval they may be able to use this approval to catapult themselves into political positions of power and then their other ideologies might come to the forefront.”
But they already are in positions of political power, or at least creeps who act just like them, with or without the rhetoric or ideology. Rightwing reactionaries and leftwing progressives are just different flavors of disingenuous ideologies disguising the same basic duopoly agenda: screw us and reward them.
I don’t see how they could be any worse than Trudeau and the prevailing status quo. Or, god forbid, another Biden.
All that is “if”. Meanwhile, we have real human beings sticking their necks out in real physical space-time and putting their bums on the line to fight back against something we all agree is wrong.
If you want perfection, now, today, or even five years from now, your best shot is to kill yourself and hope there’s a heaven.
Otherwise, this is reality we’re dealing with. If you deal with it honestly and personally with skin in the game (a rarity on all counts these days), you’ll get dirty, maybe bloody, scared, disappointed, disillusioned, and quite possibly betrayed.
There is the parade and there are the watchers. The paradeers have to negotiate their differences to maintain a cotillion. Watchers can come and go as they please, applaud or heckle. Same diff. They’re.just.watching.
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“I AM troubled greatly by the behavior and attitudes from my local UU congregation that I am increasingly separated from. It was a haven for me. I found a lot of ideological congruence there. I find it shocking that so many there are blind to how they have abandoned their core principles — they don’t even realize that they have done so.”
Most people’s professed morals and ideals vanish when confronted with genuine difficulty imo/ime (in my experience). I don’t have friends mostly because of this kind of thing, although for me, most of the relinquishing of friends happened between 5 and 10 years ago. My very poor hearing is the main reason I don’t have anyone today to hang around and play chess with or whatever, and that’s cool. It is what it is. I mostly find myself exhausting myself trying to uplift people who often realize, after a bit of interaction, that they prefer their secure anxious misery to the struggle of self-liberation (oh my, that sounds so maudlin, yes?)
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“Hell, it wasn’t that long ago that Herr Docktor was taking flack for calling into question all the early pandemic statistics, at a time when many of us were still hypnotized by them. He turned out to be right, and through cogent persuasion brought most of us around one by one. Well done, Dr. D!”
Not to pee on Dr. D’s cape, for his has always been a mostly illuminating voice (which is why I sometimes hammer him hard when I think he’s darkening not illuminating: I take Dr. D very seriously), but those were the only numbers coming in at the time and we dealt with them as such… even as we also discussed inaccurate covid tests, insane misuse of tried and tested quarantine protocols, etc., which shows that we well understood that government agency statistics might well be, as they usually are, full of shit. We worked with what we had, because “they’re lying” was insufficient data to determine what they are lying about.
There’s a certain amount of cognitive dissonance to overcome regarding medical authority, healers… although we need only look to the Catholic church’s pedophilia networks to see that even the healers get hooked into the con game.
Dr. D got flak mostly for jumping the gun. Some of his assertions proved true; some not. But at the time he was in what I perceive as a brash intemperate frustrated place, and tended to shoot from the hip and make absolute statements that he couldn’t back up at the time. (Brash little me also shoots from the hip which is why I’m careful about claiming to know more than I have already verified.
We’ve learned a lot from Dr. D… and he has learned a lot from us. As should be, seeing as how we’re all really superheroes on our night job. I’ve concluded that the mysterious D in Dr. D means “Disco”:
🙂
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Let us never forget the power of awkwardly effective group cuddling:
Men’s cuddling group aims to redefine masculinity and heal trauma
Probably not so much now, but men in China are very comfortable being physically affectionate. I recall a picture of an 80s/90s circa group of Chinese factory workers on a smoke break. One of the men is sitting in another man’s lap. Very normal for them, at least back then.
But I’m getting old and crusty and prefer snuggles with my wife, my dog, and my parrot, period.
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And, from my fave Russian expert (whom, I believe, Dr. D—o first turned me on to):
OBSERVATIONS ON THE RUSSIA CHINA STATEMENT
““Joint Statement of the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China on International Relations Entering a New Era and lobal Sustainable Development” 4 February 2022. (English) (Russian).This document is the grand strategic manifesto of a new world order and there is much more to be said about it than what follows. I believe that 4 February 2022 will be remembered as the proclamation of a new disposition of world power and relationships.
It is a truly new order of things, not the old “new world order” which was based on US supremacy. And it is most certainly not the so-called Rules-Based International Order in which one side makes up the rules, breaks them when it wants to and orders everyone else to obey. (A perfect example of the mutability of the “rules” is that gay rights are very important in Russia but not at all in Washington’s new “major ally” of Qatar.) The old “new world order” was always about making them conform to us: “The foremost goal of US strategy should be to cause China’s ruling elites to conclude that it is in China’s best interests to continue operating within the US-led liberal international order…””
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And a picture of an old coot and a happy dog at the Oregon coast yesterday. We had a good time, wife and I, but not a hundredth as much as little Junebug.
February 13, 2022 at 10:40 pm #101112boscohorowitz
Participant“My experience teaches me to never dismiss the Great Unseen Progress that occurs in peoples HEARTS when they go out into the community/centers of influence and take a stand against some injustice and or thing they feel strongly about. Something inside changes. Perhaps not now, but at some future moment in time – that REALIZATION – will re-ignite and play a larger role in the development of the next phase. LOVE to you Carol. LOVE to All.”
You’re kind of my TAE patron saint, Sus. Is there a singular event you can recall and share that most inspired you to the emotional/social/spiritual place you inhabit these days? I’d love to read it, here or in email. pastmastergeneral@gmail.com
February 13, 2022 at 10:42 pm #101113boscohorowitz
Participant“Mos def, Maxwell Q.”
I’ve rather sullied the letters ‘def’, so let me rephrase: most definitely MaxQ
February 13, 2022 at 10:43 pm #101114EoinW
ParticipantBoscohorowirtz
I agree that in fair weather all people are oh so nice. Throw adversity at them and you quickly see what they’re really like. It’s been a discouraging 22 months here as well.
BTW chess.com is an excellent site.
February 13, 2022 at 10:49 pm #101115boscohorowitz
Participant“I cannot afford to comply with the legally mandated costs of practicing medicine in Texas, which was different in 1992-1994, the last time I did that.”
Ah. Well, wait a year or three. Black market medicine will, to steal a William Gibson quote, “be so popular it’s almost legal”.
Let me know if you need someone to rob a pharmacy to stock you up properly. I can’t do it, and don’t know anyone who will, but let me know, k? cuz it would be so cool to hear that you’re going to Robin Hood a Big Pharma bank.
“This might sting a bit. Oh, c’mon, trust me: I’m a doc— I mean, truck-driver.”
February 13, 2022 at 10:54 pm #101116Veracious Poet
ParticipantJohn,
Your insightful post today triggered an epoophany for me today 😉
Early in human development children are faced with moral/ethical choices concerning their world view & how they will proceed into it…
Reflecting upon human history, back to the beginning, there have always been hunter gatherers vs. loving, healing & creative workers that build families, communities, & civilizations ~ ie those that chose to sanely use their FREE WILL (given to them by the Infinite) to co-exist & prosper into healthy groups.
These “peaceful” workers of course also begat hunter gatherers within their communities that ALWAYS became problematic ~ Bullies, criminally insane, socio/psychopaths, fraudsters et al.
As a believer in genetic memory I believe it is stronger in certain genetic lines than others, or at least it manifests along different paths…
It is historically without a doubt that the Vatican’s Divine Rights of Kings was derived from hunter gatherer mores, engendering all sorts of intrigue & peril, which ALWAYS impacted the innocent (mostly) workers on a far greater scale.
To point, western civilization has no doubt fallen bewitched to the spirit & psychopathy of the primitive hunter gatherer culture, to the point of worshiping it at a CULT level ~ Interesting that today is #DERPER-BOWL funday, with all the mayhem of a bloodlust battle over dominion of an object…
In “America”, the psyche of the entrenched political monopolistic shystem is a hunter gatherer phenom ~ All one has to do to confirm is pay attention to their actions (rape, loot, pillage, plunder, destroy) vs. what they say & do (pandering lies & psyop nightmares).
Thus what we’re really facing is a dominate “super” power narrative of tribal gangster-ism, on a global basis, with other “hard men” competing for easy pickings…
I believe the MAJOR mistake the Sons of Liberty made was ignoring of primitive base human nature & failing to protect future generations of workers from future predation by the hunter gatherers from within.
Seeking revenge is not the best way. It begets further revenge.
Justice, is different. Justice is kind of rare, even…
Agreed. It requires an undisturbed spiritual awareness in the NOW, that is constantly unfolding, to see the difference 🙂
Jai guru deva om,
Gary
February 13, 2022 at 10:57 pm #101117boscohorowitz
ParticipantIt’s funny we have a Dr. John Day and a Dr. D, so we therefore don’t call Dr. Day Dr. Day. Anyway… damn you, Dr. Day. Looks like I’ll have to read up on self-assembling microcircuits and nano-particles, etc. Pisses me off. I’m kinda allergic to tinfoil, especially when it’s injected into my veins.
But then, the smartest man I personally know has been preaching this as a planned global depopulation-and-worse meta-hybrid global warfare plan since I first met the hunchbacked little lizard-sucker.
February 13, 2022 at 11:01 pm #101118boscohorowitz
ParticipantVeracious Poet: your theory goes entirely against what is known about human history including paleo-history. The transition to “workers” began the institution of slavery among many other icky practices.
February 13, 2022 at 11:16 pm #101119boscohorowitz
Participant“BTW chess.com is an excellent site.”
Thank you. I need to practice to be good enough for anyone to bother playing against. I do like the face-to-face human touch but with minimal dialog per my hammered ears (part of it chronically fluidized eustachian tubes from chronic sinusitis from HHT messing with my sinuses).
February 13, 2022 at 11:19 pm #101120SeaBirds
Participant“Tactics used by the authorities to try and get rid of the protesters involved turning on the water sprinklers on the lawn where they were camped on Friday…” [what’s more on the midst of a rainstorm] “…With sprinklers proving ineffective, Parliament Speaker Trevor Mallard settled on a new approach: blasting out Barry Manilow’s greatest hits…and Covid vaccine messages”.
Not all was reported by the BBC. Here is a picture of the police using brutal tactics against a 17 year old boy protesting against the government mandates in Wellington. The girl holding the picture is this boy’s sister.
February 13, 2022 at 11:37 pm #101121boscohorowitz
ParticipantHere is a formula of how mainstream beliefs bedevil we alternative stream believers:
“The media is lying.”
“You’re wrong.”
“On what basis?”
“The media told me.”
“But…”
“I win!” (insert relevant Calvin & Hobbes panel)
February 13, 2022 at 11:40 pm #101122D Benton Smith
Participant@boscohorowitz ” hunchbacked little lizard-sucker”
My heart fluttered! That’s the nicest thing than anyone ever said to me. Told ya so !
February 13, 2022 at 11:43 pm #101123₿oogaloo
Participant“The lineup of speakers today at Ottawa’s trucker protest includes Maxime Bernier, head of the People’s Party of Canada, which includes in its formal platform a denial of climate change, advocates against immigrants and multi-culturalism, along with the usual pushing of the military industrial complex (overt focus on veterans and resource extraction).”
This has me scratching my head. Any mass protest is going to naturally attract people at the ends of the political spectrum. Those are the people most likely to show up. Those are the people with the most experience in organizing. To me, that is to be expected. The real test for any protest is whether people who are not at the ends of the spectrum also show up. A protest will be ignored unless ordinary people show up. They did for Occupy Wall Street (before it was co-opted). They did for Black Lives Matter (before it was co-opted). They are doing so for the Freedom Convoy. Will it be co-opted? I hope not. But it is natural for the usual suspects to try.
It is also natural for the authoritarians to try to discredit the message by infiltrating the demonstration and planting false flags — like the lone Confederate flag that was spotted and a lone Nazi flag that was spotted. If I were to bet money, I would bet that those came from people trying to discredit the protest. That’s just the way the government operates these days. Infiltrate and discredit.
The key to success is for the protest to remain mainstream as along as possible.
February 13, 2022 at 11:46 pm #101124SeaBirds
ParticipantFebruary 13, 2022 at 11:50 pm #101125boscohorowitz
ParticipantSeabirtd: try removing the http tag at the front of the link
February 13, 2022 at 11:50 pm #101126Oroboros
ParticipantAh, I loved the paleo Days of Wine and Roses.
Civilization came along and we got the Nights of Whine and Neurosis
Give me home were the buffalo roam
February 14, 2022 at 12:01 am #101127aspnaz
Participant@sumac.carol Good ridance. You quoting Amnesty International is a hilarious final shot. I wish you well in finding the young girl’s “fantasy land” where all the dolls do as you say, the world you believe should exist, alternatively just grow up.
February 14, 2022 at 12:09 am #101128ctbarnum
ParticipantAny updates on how the BC15 protest is going?
Simply put, the working man (and woman) are revolting against the Trudeau administration.
May I introduce you to Surrey, British Columbia, near the Washington State border. This is going to be like whack-a-mole until Trudeau submits. pic.twitter.com/gvoKCyZLah
— Ezra Levant 🍁🚛 (@ezralevant) February 13, 2022
February 14, 2022 at 12:15 am #101129D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe jury is till out but mounting evidence suggests a high probability that the mRNA vaccines are causing male fertility problems, up to and possibly including permanent sterility in males. I usually refrain from speculation, (and this one is still on myshort list of “mebbe/mebbe not” data) BUT the stakes are SO high that it needs to enter the discussion, pronto . Whether they cause such sterility , and how often, is critically important to know.
Picture this : 23 year old male. 6 ft 4 in tall, 185 lbs , testosterone at maximum, trained (Military certified) fighting machine who knows 12 different ways to kill without raising a sweat. Currently childless, but very intent on having a lots of kids, grandkids, etc.
Figure into your visualization a multiplication of that one example by about 50,000 other current and recently former combat foot soldiers, marines , special forces, etc.
If one day these men discover that IDENTIFIABLE perpetrators have STERILIZED them by means of lies and coercion then the consequences will be beyond imagining. A certain (but difficult to estimate) percentage of these tough men SHALL extract physical vengeance. Law be damned. My guess is it would number in the low thousands. (maybe 3 – 5 % ?).
IF the shots have done such a horrifying thing (pray that they haven’t) then Fauci’s life won’t be worth a plugged nickel. And the same for countless others, and their associates anywhere who participated in that mutilation. There will be blood, and a lot of (truly) terrified scrambling.
We’ll know soon.
February 14, 2022 at 12:16 am #101130Figmund Sreud
ParticipantFolks, following – from americanthinker.com …has been written by most delusional, … faulty-judgment writer! Seriously, … this, in contrast to:
… is equally rich, as mentioned here a day or three ago.
… snip:
“Successfully invading Ukraine, therefore, requires either speed to conclusion or passivity from NATO and, most importantly, the United States. Like it or not, Russia cannot move without US acquiescence, not unless Putin is willing to risk unmitigated disaster.”
It Is Possible For Putin To Get Crimea Without Force
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/02/it_is_possible_for_putin_to_get_crimea_without_force.htmlF.S.
February 14, 2022 at 12:19 am #101131ctbarnum
Participant@sumac
February 14, 2022 at 12:20 am #101132February 14, 2022 at 12:21 am #101133chooch
ParticipantDB Smith,
A bio weapon virus and a bio weapon vaccine? Premeditated?
It’s not that I haven’t been here, but currently not there. The virus can now be found everywhere from hamsters to gorillas. My county has 170k population. There have been three waves with death rate peaks of 3 per 100k. Mostly old folks. So at worst, five per day. I may have a cartoonish preconceived notion of what warrants a bio weapon, but this doesn’t seem to quite qualify.
Vaccinators on the other hand, have been frothing for pandemic event and an opportunity to jab the planet for years. There has definitely been some some planning and premeditation in this department by Blofeld like villains.
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