Debt Rattle January 11 2025
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January 11, 2025 at 10:48 am #179033Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 11 2025]January 11, 2025 at 12:21 pm #179035tbocParticipanta massless particle makes it all possible
People should be absolutely outraged
essential for national security
January 11, 2025 at 12:26 pm #179037Dr. DParticipant“UK Government Investigating Elon Musk’s Tweets About Muslim Pedophile Gangs
Well that’ll help. Oh wait, a full national investigation of the tweets, zero investigation of the crime.
And 100% of ruling government voted not to look. IN fact, some accessory parties said, “Hey, you know, we’ve not been in power at all, are safely, been totally out of this? So WE’RE GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF GANG RAPE.” That’s where we stand.
High Lord Starmer continues on the “Far Right” people attacking poor poor Jess Philips, the real victim here, and the RIght is only in it for making political hay by TRYING TO STOP RAPE for
+1020 years. How dare they speak up on such a subject? Obviously political. Nope pretty sure it was the Rape. The raping might be the issue?BBC closes ranks, publishes the one and only fake accusation over the whole 10 years. Me Too! “Believe all Womyn.” So there you have it, we asked one woman, so 249,999 cases are false!
Please, please keep talking. Never stop.
“Israel, US, UK Launch New Airstrikes on Yemen Amid Efforts to ‘Hunt’ Houthi Leaders
Netanyahu: twenty Israeli Air Force jets participated in the new assault…Biden can’t speak or understand. He can start yet another war though. So bombing more civilians makes everything better? We should do that at home then. Oh, Wait…
“The Empire of Chaos is relentless. Lawfare, destabilizations, sanctions, kidnappings, color revolutions, false flags, annexations:” Escobar.
Well he’s not wrong about that.
“Greenland ‘Ready To Talk’ With Trump As ‘Status Quo No Longer An Option’
Well that was quick. I’ve been thinking, so we’re pro-colony now? Denmark had a colony and that’s a good, obvious thing, if we have the Colony…or make it a state, than that’s a crazy, bad thing and imperialism? Explain?
Also it’s semi-autonomous since 1979. So…let them vote on it, like other such places? I mean, I don’t care, but I only note on the meta-meta reality that if we said it, it’s bad and an empire, if anyone else says it, it’s wonderful.
I think this goes with the core reality worldwide right now, of no cohesion. We have no common standards, and no MEANS of agreeing to common results. That used to be diplomacy, even war, by the laws of war, but that other nations, cultures were different and they were SUPPOSED to be different. But what happens when you meet and no one agrees what is good nor HOW you arrive at that conclusion, NOR a judge or arbiter whose verdict both will accept. That’s what we’re doing right now with Greenland, but deeper, like with elections vs lawfare, protests vs burnings, etc. You are not allowed to exist, that’s tolerance. Submit or die. …To my ideas, my arbiters, my judges.
Without it, that meta substructure, every element is turned on its head. The very basis of courts is that they are neutral not political. Or being adults: are neutral within a range we can tolerate. (The alternate being going to war) So they show up in court and say, “That’s not a court”. BOTH SIDES. No matter what verdict, ALL cases have to go from the dogcatcher to the Supreme Court. …Because escalation exists I didn’t win yet.
The vague neutrality of judges is just one example but it’s everywhere. It is, in a sense, the 4th Turning, where we are re-creating the order, and when we have an order, we’ll just mindlessly and habitually run it for the next 70 years after this. You know, like Boomers. The point being, it’s NOT order, right now. It’s fractured, it’s decision.
““We were ordered not to leave any mercenaries alive.” – Russian soldier who killed NATO mercenary”
Um, I kinda believe this is legal? I mean, check me here, but you’re a combatant with no nation to advocate for you, then, you’re not a “Mercenary”, you’re just a guy in my country murdering people. Not only that, I think they’ve said so before. Weird loophole. I have wondered about it, but every mercenary knows this, right? That’s why they get paid.
“Washington — President Biden announced Thursday that for the next six months, the federal government will pay for 100% of the disaster response costs”
If I remember this from last time, CA was bankrupt and their only hope was a Federal bailout. …So they went out and burned their own people’s houses. Sound familiar? Now IF you say yes, how do you stop them?
“It’s a catastrophe. People should be absolutely outraged about it. It is a direct consequence this woke ideology”
I’m not outraged, I’m happy. They got what they wanted and voted for. That’s correct democracy and why we have a Federal system so they are free to do what they want. …Unless by “People” you mean the residents of that country/state. And why would they be mad about getting what they asked? Careful about how you define “People” which is in essence a pronoun here. Who is “He”? Which woman is the “She” in your sentence?
17 seconds. Well, I thought about a giraffe, but no giraffe yet. Then I worry about losing my job all day and no losing my job yet.
Here’s a thought: the ENTIRE INTERNET (American region) is filled with millions, maybe a billion manifesting, positive thinking videos. Yet they keep clicking them because why? Because the last video and/or its advice did not work at all. If it worked, if ANY of them worked, in just a few months there would only be one video, the one that worked, and 200 million millionaires driving lambos. This theory may need work. It’s also at least 100 years old and nothing happened in those 1,200 months either.
• US Blocked Sale Of Greenland Rare Earths Developer To China (RT)
Not saying this is that mine, but Rare Earths are notoriously toxic. Is this what we want for Greenland? That’s okay if you tell me we’re using Colorado’s EPA standards for it instead of China’s.
“According to the executive, he eventually decided to sell to Critical Metals, a New York-based mining development firm,”
Don’t sell to the highest bidder: take a low-ball offer from my friends.
Again, we don’t need Greenland for this. Not that the resources isn’t there, but…
““The US military has been permanently present in Greenland since World War II..”
Yes, but we’ve been permanently everywhere since WWII. Does that mean Germany should be our colony? Oh, wait…
As from yesterday, looking that globe, remember NATO DOES border Russia and always has. 8,000 miles of it. In the ARCTIC. Direct border. They didn’t have to take Ukraine. Greenland? Direct border with Russia.
“US President-elect Donald Trump has shared a video of an interview with Jeffrey Sachs in which the American economist calls Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “a deep, dark son of a b***h.”
But Trump only works for the Jews and there’s no daylight or division, he’s a direct employee. And the Jews also run everything.
Therefore, Jew logic: the Jews TOLD Trump to post that video! That’s the only explanation, since obviously all the other parts are indisputable. One things I can’t stand about it is that among a thousand theories and unprovable ideas we run into in human life, the Jooooooos, is the stupidest one of them all. I really respect people who think they’ve been abducted by Bigfoot, or are planning expeditions to the IceWall of the Flat earth. Those guys look like geniuses compared to the Joooos theorists. You almost have to not call it a “Theory”, as a Theory would have to have cohesive internal logic, not be a bag of hammers all randomly knocking together, contradicting themselves. The other thing of Theories? They are disprovable. These guys are an embarrassment to embarrassments.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, Trump, a politician, TOOK THEIR MONEY AND DOUBLE CROSSED THEM, a story as old as time.
“It almost seems as if this thorn in the side never passes for Americans.”
Yes, the existence of any other nations is always a thorn for Empires. But not for normal countries. Generally we never remember Canada exists, sohrry. That means Canada’s no worse off than any other tiny nation next to a really large one, there is arm twisting always involved. Russia-Kazahkstan, China-SE Asia.
““If I were Liz Cheney, I’d be very concerned about being prosecuted for witness tampering..”
By the law of Nothing Ever Happens, Nothing Ever Happens. It approaches infinitely closer to happening, yet never happens. Anyway, the sale must be made first to the American people. If they buy in, they prosecute. If it looks like politics, they don’t.
By the Power of:
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January 11, 2025 at 12:26 pm #179038Dr. DParticipant“Successive governments declined to investigate the scandal – which received mainstream media attention after a series of reports by The Times in 2011”
Okay, adults, that’s ONE decade, and you only got around to reporting it in ‘11, so that’s near TWO decades. Aaaaaannnd??? And these are not “Successive” governments, they are ALL THE SAME PEOPLE. This isn’t like Franco died, Thatcher Era went away, these are the SAME governments. There are only two parties and both approved, both for a decade combined. …And we’ve been out here saying so.
“Matt Jukes served as Borough Commander in Rotherham from 2006-2010,”
2010? Impossible since it’s still going on 15 years later. That means it didn’t “Peak” they just stopped reporting it at all, which is exactly what Democrats were doing with crime statistics in all their failed cities. Speaking of, why didn’t organized crime pop up so I could pay some tough £10,000 to pop the guy/group who raped my daughter? Sounds like a major, major growing industry? Why? Police protection. Police ONLY stop the Justice, not the crime. Full weight would be on the counter-mob, not the original Islam mob. Look: Those toughs and Hooligans are out there, waiting and hoping praying morning to night for someone will hand them £10k. They’d do it just to make a name. And they didn’t for why??? Because the only pressure is on the BRITISH people and BRITISH (white) mobs. They are the only mob the police are after and lay fire on.
…It’s impossible for it to be any other way, change my mind.
“• Meta Nukes DEI Program; “Morale For Queer Staff In Shitter” (ZH)
IDGAF about their FEELZ, do they do their job with competency?
“When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.”
Yeah, we know. Don’t care, do something. File paperwork for a countersuit. “I knew that lynching this guy would be wrong, but if I left the posse, people would be MAD….!” Uh-huh. Tell it to the Civil Rights Court. “But if I stop this other guy will get me!” “Look at me, I’m right here in your office. Be afraid of me.” –Payback 1999
Sorry, couldn’t find this clip, somewhat pre-Youtube.
Btw, great film about middle management. Not a single person can take a single g– d—d thing seriously. He’s says he’ll burn down all L.A. unless you straighten yourselves up. They’re like, “But I’d have to go to a committee meeting and say less popular things!” Bang. Dead. NEXT! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VHJppE4MgA
This is how you get things done. 1) You get things done. 2) If not, all the people STOPPING getting things done are eliminated. Win-Win. He’s not even trying to remove or change anything. We’re not trying to erase corruption from human soul or the surface of the earth. I just want you to behave like normal human beings that have logical cost-benefit equations. As we know from American Call centers, that’s Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much to ask.
Speaking of, 100% of all Dodge Chargers are bricked. They are the worst car ever made, worse than the Lada, worse than the Yugo, which both could drive, and at a low price. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0x8uXrf84
Greatest fiasco and failure in this history of industrialism, making the Edsel look like Apollo 11. And…..? No news at all. Whatsoever. Not a bit. Because this is NORMAL. Complete failure of ALL parts in ALL cars for a 2 year run, approved by every level of management, and unfixed by ALL lower people is the standard everyday business practice and expectation now. Industry. Standard.
But I’ll just start my own company make my own Charger and…Oh wait. That would mean “Capitalism”, where there is “Competition.” And “Work.” We don’t have that. What’s that above? What’s that I hear? If I were to DO something the full weight and force of the police state would land upon me? Even made a working car? Even if I milked a cow into a bucket they’d send a SWAT team and 50 lawyers? A: Yes.
“• AI To Displace Millions of Jobs By 2030 – WEF (RT)Power consumed to run one Bitcoin transaction: relevant. Power consumed to think on behalf of 20 million workers: Not Relevant. I’m sure it’ll be free! And we’ll have no trouble scaling up to ONE 100 acre server farm per employee.
Check the stocks: WHO at at a peak and who is at the trough? AI/Nvidia is 100x high, looking higher than Cisco/Nortel 1999.
““If Newsom was a Republican… you guys would have him nailed to the wall”
Yes, but to care they’d have to have “Morals”. The only moral is “POWER”. Without God, all things are relative. Reality itself does not exist, a mere inconvenience. You have to understand you are in two different religions, in only one of which “Reality Exists.”
Payback is a weird movie. I don’t know why it doesn’t work or is so odd, should be the central subject and perfect structure for an action movie. Feel like it would work better as a book.
Maybe it all fell apart after that Documentary they put out called “Demolition Man”.
https://38.media.tumblr.com/d6a883ce4d3235fba687fb6ca4a80cb1/tumblr_nmut34cXoz1s46koto5_500.gifJanuary 11, 2025 at 12:31 pm #179039Dr. DParticipantJanuary 11, 2025 at 12:52 pm #179040Dr. DParticipantWhile we’re all at this, where our Rotherham scandal??? Where P Diddy at? UK was only 250,000 and only 20 years, surely Diddy opens far more than that does.
Poof! What story? What crimes? These are not the droids you’re looking for. It was all a dream. Now go eat a burger for Taylor Swift.
(PS Honorable mention “Pig Farm” Canandia. HereLetMeGoogleThatForYou.com)
January 11, 2025 at 1:32 pm #179041RedParticipant“the federal government will pay for 100% of the disaster response costs”
Fairly opaque, does this cover the fighting response, the cleanup, the housing and feeding requirements, the rebuilding needs, etc. All, some or just one of the above?
Squirrel!January 11, 2025 at 1:34 pm #179042RedParticipantSome reasonable political dissection on the Canadian front if interested:
https://www.youtube.com/@northernperspective00/videosJanuary 11, 2025 at 1:37 pm #179043tbocParticipantis there a word for arguing against what you are arguing for?
January 11, 2025 at 1:37 pm #179044RedParticipantHmm.. Does Africom have some new marching orders? I did say squirrel right?
Introductory Note: Will Francophone Africa be Taken Over by the U.S. ?
It should be understood that the withdrawal of French troops from Francophone Africa constitutes a “green light” to the United States which currently has a significant military presence in francophone Africa under the banner of “counter-terrorism”.The withdrawal of France not only points to the “dollarization” of francophone of Africa, it also suggests that eventually, French will in several francophone countries be abandoned as a national language.
Although the circumstances are entirely different to what is currently unfolding, we recall how Rwanda which was a francophone country was transformed into an English speaking U.S. Colony in Central Africa.
This is what I wrote in 2000 (25 Years ago) following two UNDP missions to Rwanda in 1996-97:
January 11, 2025 at 1:40 pm #179045RedParticipanttboc: bi-polar, schizophrenic?
January 11, 2025 at 1:45 pm #179046tbocParticipantwhy yes! debate
debate – that which is used when fishing
January 11, 2025 at 2:01 pm #179047tbocParticipanti like your words better Red
how does one tell the difference between communism and capitalism?
when what one desires occurs it is capitalism
when what one does not desire occurs it is communismwhat is the difference between slavery and liberty?
who is holding the whipwhy can’t it happen here?
two electrons with the same spin cannot occupy the same spaceCracker why aren’t you rich?
don’t have enough bullshitJanuary 11, 2025 at 2:10 pm #179048zerosumParticipant>Everyone has freedom of expressing wrong opinions but not doing wrong actions. The final verdict is the ballot box
The best salesmen in the world are
American, Anthony S. Fauci,
Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu
Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy,
and MSM journalists.1. Censoring certain COVID-19 content.
2. Censoring genocide and war reports.
3. Censoring population controls.
4. The dissemination of inauthentic content
5. Censoring secrets and lies.
—————January 11, 2025 at 2:34 pm #179049tbocParticipantname one surefire path to the understanding of inflation
hold a parcel of real estate in Florida for fifty years
January 11, 2025 at 2:50 pm #179050John DayParticipantGreenland Assets https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/greenland-assets
Influential international bankers facing financial collapse is the biggest risk factor for world war three that I can think of. Wars do not happen because one group of people hates another group of people. That can be induced quickly enough. Mass hate helps the war machine work, but its decisions are made to gain and hold power over people and wealth. Alex Krainer’s work on the precarious financial status of the Bank of England, last summer and last week, prompted two posts about that, most recently, “BOE Still Needs World War Three” https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/boe-still-needs-world-war-three
The dangerous situation is that the Bank of England has made a lot of leveraged loans, backed by collateral, which was in Ukraine, but is now physically in Russia, so those assets cannot actually be liquidated. They are lost assets, not yet reckoned on the financial ledgers, because the ledgers can’t balance that way. The Bank of England also undersigned very large IMF loans to “Ukraine”, which “Ukraine” will never service, except with more loans, which deal was also done last summer. The emergency financial powers which come with a major war always protect banking interests, especially national banking interests. It seem like the tail wagging the dog, but these are the people who decide policy.
I can’t really hope that the Bank of England, and associates go bankrupt, because they can initiate war against Russia to save their financial interests, and let NATO protect them.
I am interested in Donald Trump’s play to grab Greenland, because it has a similar scale of mineral assets to Ukraine, which can be acquired for banking by bribing 56,000 citizens who can vote in a referendum to become the New Alaska. These citizens are 88% Inuit, and see that Alaskan Inuit peoples are wealthier than Greenlanders.
Is some kind of banking deal possible which would back up the $US financial system, including the infamous BoE, based upon Greenland’s considerable oil and mineral wealth, thereby eliminating the financial imperative for slaughtering millions or billions of people?Trump serious about acquiring Greenland – Reuters
Russia has described the US president-elect’s plan as “eccentric” and “totally unworkable” https://swentr.site/news/610613-trump-serious-acquiring-greenland/Erik Prince Reveals Trump Was Closer To Buying Greenland Than Previously Known
Prince’s comments come as Trump ramps up his calls to acquire the Arctic landmass, highlighting its strategic military and economic advantages…
..It is an enormous amount of mineral potential. It is of significant interest to the Chinese Communist Party. And so I think what Trump had proposed last time, last administration, was effectively a 50-50 rev share where the US would take over the overhead costs because it costs Denmark tens of billions of dollars a year for the policing, security, and administration of Greenland. The US would take that on, but then it would basically split the revenue of any mining or energy development together with Denmark…
..As a defensive play and as a good opportunity for the United States to maximize the reach and the economic development in our own hemisphere, it makes perfect sense…
..SEAN SPICER: I mean in all honesty I just can’t imagine Denmark saying oh yeah yeah we’ll give up 50% or 20% even of our sovereign territory because you guys want.
ERIK PRINCE: They were almost ready to do the deal last time…
..SEAN SPICER: If you had to make a prediction whether Denmark agrees to some kind of a deal, where would you put it?
ERIK PRINCE: Above 50%. Remember, you know, think about, um, you know, they called the purchase of Alaska Seward’s Folly and it turned out to be absolutely a brilliant purchase. I think it came out to two or three cents per acre in terms of value. Um, the United States, you can imagine, where would we be without Alaska? https://www.zerohedge.com/political/erik-prince-reveals-trump-was-closer-buying-greenland-previously-knownWhat Is It About The Arctic? Mark Wauk
Northeast Passage (Russia) and Northwest Passage (Canada) trade routes are discussed with illustrative polar maps. If Greenland became a US territory, and Canada aligned completely with US interests, then there would mainly be Russia and the US dividing up Arctic spheres of wealth and influence. China would follow Russia’s lead, and NATO members, Norway and Canada, would follow the US lead. Not bothering each other would facilitate extraction of resources, but war would kill the goose laying those golden eggs. There is enough to go around, and shipping routes can be managed with icebreakers. https://meaninginhistory.substack.com/p/what-is-it-about-the-arcticJanuary 11, 2025 at 2:51 pm #179051John DayParticipantWhy does Trump want Greenland and could he get it? [Bribe enough people to win a vote, right?]
A 2023 survey showed that 25 of 34 minerals deemed “critical raw materials” by the European Commission were found in Greenland. They include materials used in batteries such as graphite and lithium, and so-called rare earth elements used in electric vehicles and wind turbines.
Greenland has banned extraction of oil and natural gas for environmental reasons, and development of its mining sector has been snarled in red tape and opposition from indigenous people. https://www.reuters.com/world/why-does-trump-want-greenland-could-he-get-it-2025-01-08/Gilbert Doctorow, Transcript of ‘Judging Freedom,’ 9 January edition
The attention has been to what is in Greenland. It’s been to what Greenland will mean 30 years from now, when the polar ice cap melts, and what this means for American activity, future activity in the Arctic region, what threats it poses or doesn’t to Russian navigation… I think it has nothing whatever to do with what President Trump is doing now. I don’t think this man is terribly concerned about anything that could or would happen 30 years from now… He is putting something forward which is not the least bit frivolous for today and tomorrow, not for 30 years perspective.
And what I mean is: he has been advised clearly at what President Reagan did in a similar situation to what he is facing now with the Ukraine war. In October 1983, President Reagan was faced with a very unpleasant fact of 140 plus American soldiers having been blown to bits in Lebanon by a Hezbollah attack on the barracks where they and French soldiers were based in a peacekeeping mission. Two days later, he invaded Granada.
That is the message from the Reagan administration that Mr. Trump is employing now. He is preparing to throw Ukraine under the bus, and he doesn’t want to be held accountable for it, because he wants the whole thing to diminish in importance compared to the American takeover of Greenland…
..I don’t see any need for him to use military muscle on Greenland. If you pay attention closely to what the Danish prime minister said yesterday when asked about this whole case in the press, she said, well, Greenland’s future is up to Greenlanders. Now, that’s as much as saying that she’s given up. She has no intention of facing down Trump and the United States over this or creating a scandal within NATO. When you consider who exactly are the Greenlanders, They are 56,000 people in that vast territory. Don’t you think it would be quite easy to buy them all off? https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2025/01/10/transcript-of-judging-freedom-9-january-edition/US pressured Greenland rare earths developer not to sell to China https://swentr.site/news/610660-greenland-rare-earths-us-china/
Greenland Prime Minister, Múte Egede, said on Friday that he has not spoken with Donald Trump regarding the President-elect’s recent interest in buying the Danish-controlled territory, but that he’s ‘ready to talk,’ as the ‘status quo is no longer an option.’ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greenland-ready-talk-trump-status-quo-no-longer-option
Trump Confirms Meeting Being Set Up With Putin As Kremlin Expresses Readiness
The day prior Trump had also said “President Putin wants to meet.” The Kremlin has yet to confirm the talks, but has repeatedly said Putin remains open to the possibility.
“He has said that even publicly and we have to get that war over with. That’s a bloody mess,” Trump had said in the Thursday part of the remarks.
Moscow’s newest Friday statement reaffirmed openness to such a meeting, “but that any concrete steps to set up such talks could be made only once Mr. Trump is sworn into office on Jan. 20,” The New York Times notes.
“We need a mutual desire and political willingness to engage in a dialogue,” Putin spokesman Dmitri Peskov told reporters. “We see that Mr. Trump also declares his readiness to solve issues via dialogue. We welcome that.”
Peskov added that Russia’s understanding is that there is a “mutual readiness for a meeting” but that “it looks like things will start to move after Trump enters the Oval Office.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-confirms-meeting-being-set-putin-kremlin-expresses-readinessJanuary 11, 2025 at 2:52 pm #179052John DayParticipantDima at Military Summary says “The Battle For The Arctic Has Begun, Behold, Trump Is Coming!” He has a lot of fun for the first 8 minutes laying out how an East-West Arctic split between Russia and the US can lead to cooperation and de-facto alliance between these two superpowers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwKRMiCIb-A
Jim Rogers predicts Russian economic boom
The end of the Ukraine conflict will allow foreign investors to return to the market, the legendary investor says.
Regarding the world economy, Rogers warned of a looming global recession by mid-spring, predicting that it would be “the worst” in his life. He attributed this to growing national debt and Trump’s potential import tariffs on Chinese goods, which he said could severely impact global trade and the economy, likening the potential fallout to the Great Depression of the 1930s. He added that the US dollar would weaken as a safe-haven currency, leading to a downturn in the global stock market. https://swentr.site/business/610603-jim-rogers-russian-economic-boom/ Jim Rickards, Positioned For a Historic Crash
We are now positioned for an historic crash. The specific cause does not matter – it could be war, natural disaster, a bank or hedge fund collapse or another unexpected event. What matters is the super-fragility of the market when the trigger is pulled. This is why Warren Buffett has over $300 billion in cash and why central banks are buying gold. Prepare now. Don’t be the last one to know. https://dailyreckoning.com/positioned-for-a-historic-crash/Big Serge explains that word at length in this long summary. Total Kievan Debellation The Russo-Ukrainian War: Year 3 https://bigserge.substack.com/p/total-kievan-debellation
Gilbert Doctorow, ‘Dialogue Works,’ edition of 10 January: Elon Musk and Alice Weidel (AfD) Ignite Controversial Discussion on X!
This broadcast provided rich material for analysis of various issues, first among them what influence Musk will be exerting on the incoming Trump administration. I regrettably submit that this influence will be ill-informed and… poorly considered. The sad truth is that Musk demonstrated that there are no universal geniuses, and that brilliance in the several business and technical domains which he rightly claims does not extend to international affairs. He obviously will not be the ‘adult in the room’…
..For her part, Frau Weidel showed herself to be interested primarily in domestic policy in Germany and to have nothing of importance to say about the two most critical conflicts in the world today, the Israeli rampage in its neighborhood including the genocide in Gaza, and the Russia-Ukraine war. Those who tell us that her possible victory at the polls on 23 February will signal a German withdrawal from NATO, as the widely watched Colonel Douglas Macgregor has done earlier this week, are drawing their analysis from thin air. https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2025/01/10/dialogue-works-edition-of-10-january-elon-musk-and-alice-weidel-afd-ignite-controversial-discussion-on-x/January 11, 2025 at 2:54 pm #179053John DayParticipantElon Musk And Alice Weidel: How “Common Sense” Politics Can “Save” Germany
The wide-ranging dialogue allowed Weidel to speak directly to the public regarding the AfD’s policies on mass migration, libertarianism, pro-business initiatives, regulatory reduction, and a balanced energy strategy emphasizing nuclear power, without — as she put it — interference and spin from the mainstream media.
Weidel criticized former Chancellor Angela Merkel, labeling her as Germany’s first “green chancellor” and accusing her energy and immigration policies of “ruining” the nation. “She enforced without asking the people to open our borders for illegal immigration, she wrecked our backbone in terms of obnoxious energy policy… Germany is the only industrial country that unplugged the nuclear power plants,” … “They switched off the last nuclear power plant to even more create a shortage of energy, so either you must be very stupid or you just hate your own country,” Weidel stated.
Musk expressed alignment with the AfD’s positions, particularly on energy policy and economic reforms. “Germany should really keep its nuclear power plants running. I think that’s extremely important,” he said…
..She emphasized the AfD’s libertarian-conservative stance, distancing it from extremist ideologies.
In a firm rejection of any notion that the AfD is aligned with far-right ideology amid frequent derogatory comparisons in the mainstream media to Hitler, Weidel insisted her party “stands for the opposite” of what the Nazi Party advocated.
“He was a communist socialist guy, full stop, no more comment on that,” Weidel said of Hitler, before proceeding to comment further by explaining that 1930s Germany was subjected to mass state censorship and nationalization of key infrastructure. “We are exactly the opposite, the libertarian, conservative party,” she said. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/elon-musk-and-alice-weidel-how-common-sense-politics-can-save-germanyRecovered from last spring’s near-assassination: Slovak PM warns of looming EU collapse
The bloc could fall apart due to incompetence in addressing urgent matters, Robert Fico has suggested
Fico accused Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky of “sabotaging the financial interests of Slovakia and the EU,” saying the transit stoppage could trigger an energy crisis across the bloc and result in some €70 billion ($72 billion) worth of damage. “Neither Slovakia nor the EU is at war, we have no reason to tolerate Zelensky’s adventures, especially looking at the aid Slovakia and the EU are providing to Ukraine,” Fico said…
..He further voiced frustration with the EU’s failure to take action, saying he would travel to Brussels to meet with the energy commissioner and would do everything he can “to wake him up from his sweet sleep, because we have a ‘bloody’ serious problem.”…
..Fico said his priority is to safeguard Slovakia’s financial and national interests. He emphasized that the overall focus in the EU should be on addressing the economic fallout and not engaging in pointless political debates. “…Looking at the EU, I fear that it will fall apart sooner than we can imagine,” he stressed.
Reflecting on his recent trip to Moscow, Fico pointed out that Kiev’s gas transit blockade was the reason behind his Russia visit. “I needed to secure at least gas for Slovakia’s domestic consumption, which we have secured, even without increasing gas prices,” he said, confirming Moscow’s commitment to continued energy supply via the TurkStream pipeline. https://swentr.site/news/610642-fico-slovakia-eu-collapse-warning/UK Father Whose Daughter Was Gang-Raped: “Police Told Me To Let It Go” … relating how the police did nothing when he told them his daughter had been raped and advised him to “let it go” or he would “get arrested for being racist.” https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-father-whose-daughter-was-gang-raped-police-told-me-let-it-go
Vast majority of Brits want ‘grooming gangs’ investigated – poll, The Labour Party has voted down a probe into the rape gangs https://swentr.site/news/610693-grooming-gangs-investigation-poll/
Not the rapes, mind you… UK Government Investigating Elon Musk’s Tweets About Muslim Pedophile Gangs
Elon Musk’s tweets about Muslim pedophile gangs are being assessed by the UK Government’s counter-extremism unit, as a potential threat to the security of the country, it has emerged. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-government-investigating-elon-musks-tweets-about-muslim-pedophile-gangsJanuary 11, 2025 at 2:54 pm #179054Doc RobinsonParticipant“We were ordered not to leave any mercenaries alive.” – Russian soldier who killed NATO mercenary”
The legal situation doesn’t look good for mercenaries.
International Humanitarian Law Databases – ICRC —
Customary IHL – Practice relating to rule 108 Mercenaries
The First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions (1977) denies mercenaries both the status of Combatants and of Prisoners of war.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule108United Nations, International Convention against the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries —
Any person who recruits, uses, finances or trains mercenaries, as defined in article 1 of the present Convention, commits an offence for the purposes of the Convention… A mercenary, as defined in article 1 of the present Convention, who participates directly in hostilities or in a concerted act of violence, as the case may be, commits an offence for the purposes of the Convention.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-convention-against-recruitment-use-financing-andJanuary 11, 2025 at 2:55 pm #179055John DayParticipantThis is a fairly long and detailed history. The Grooming Gangs Of The United Kingdom: An Explainer https://www.zerohedge.com/political/grooming-gangs-united-kingdom-explainer
‘Deadly Exchange’: US Sends Hundreds of Law Enforcement to Israel to Learn ‘Worst Practices’ From IDF
Thousands of law enforcement officials have traveled to Israel to learn new repression strategies and surveillance techniques from the Israel National Police, Israel Defense Forces, and the Shin Bet, who inflict violence, crowd control, and surveillance onto Palestinians. Anti-imperialist advocates say the tactics being taught to US law enforcement were battle-tested on Palestinians and spread to the US to target Black and Brown communities through a training relationship that grants Israeli forces more power and profit, causing further harm to Palestinians.
These programs are facilitated by the Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, and the Georgia International Law Enforcement Exchange Program—the latter of which was started in 1996. US leaders sought Israel’s guidance to curb terrorism, and a ‘deadly exchange’ of worst practices between US and Israeli forces was born. Federal, state, county, and municipal law enforcement executives including local police departments, the FBI, and ICE have traveled to Israel, while thousands of officials have attended conferences with Israeli experts in the US. https://scheerpost.com/2025/01/09/deadly-exchange-us-sends-hundreds-of-law-enforcement-to-israel-to-learn-worst-practices-from-idf/Dropping a hint to Bibi about “finishing your war”: ‘Dark son of a b****’: Trump posts video of economist saying Netanyahu dragged US into wars
Sachs ranted about Netanyahu’s obsession to manipulate US foreign policy to “get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah” by removing regimes that support them via military force. https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/article-836924Netanyahu cancels trip to Trump’s inauguration
Netanyahu’s senior aide did not elaborate on why the trip was cancelled. However, some media reports cited the Israeli prime minister’s recent prostate surgery, claiming Netanyahu had been advised to rest following the procedure.
The now-cancelled trip to Washington would have been Netanyahu’s first trip abroad since an arrest warrant against him and Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant was issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) in November. Israel also faces a genocide case at the International Court of Justice. https://swentr.site/news/610619-netanyahu-cancels-trip-trump-inauguration/Mike Whitney, Netanyahu Committee Says Israel Must Prepare for War with Turkey
The ousting of Syrian President Bashar al Assad has put the United States, Israel and Turkey on a fast-track to a broader and more violent conflagration. By removing Assad and obliterating the state, the coup managers created a power vacuum that has been filled by the proxy armies of the most vicious and aggressive nations in the world all of whom are now prepared to intensify the fighting in order to determine the final borders of the New Middle East…
..In this new paradigm, the US, Israel and Turkey are not allies attempting to achieve the same objective (toppling Assad), but bitter enemies determined to impose their own strategic vision on the entire region. This is where Washington’s ambitious plan to control the region’s pipeline corridors and critical resources meets head-on with the expansionist Zionist plan for Greater Israel and Turkey’s dream of a new Ottoman empire….
..In short, there is no plan, no strategy, nothing. Our foreign policy mandarins are simply improvising, making it up as they go along, and reacting to events as they unfold. https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/netanyahu-committee-says-israel-must-prepare-for-war-with-turkey/January 11, 2025 at 2:56 pm #179056John DayParticipantIs a war between Turkey and Israel imminent?
The situation in Syria remains difficult and now both Turkish and Israeli media are reporting that their states should prepare for war.
After the Islamists from HTS took power in Syria, the situation remains tense. Israel has occupied part of Syria near the Golan Heights and justifies this by saying it is creating a security zone. This occupation, which is contrary to international law, is criticized by non-Western countries, but as usual, Israel is not interested.
In northeastern Syria, the US has still stationed troops in the Kurdish areas of Syria, also in violation of international law. Turkey is threatening military action against the Kurds if they do not submit to the Turkish-backed HTS government and hand over their weapons. Even a military clash between Turkish troops and US troops in Syria cannot be ruled out.
Turkey wants Syria, whose new government it de facto controls, to come under full control of HTS. This creates potential for conflict with both the United States and Israel. https://anti–spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2025/droht-ein-krieg-zwischen-der-tuerkei-und-israel/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wappNYT Rejects Quakers’ Ad Calling Gaza a ‘Genocide’
“An outrageous attempt to sidestep the truth” — that’s how an American Friends Service Committee spokesperson responded to the paper’s refusal to run paid digital ads that call for an end to Israel’s genocide in Gaza. https://consortiumnews.com/2025/01/08/nyt-rejects-quakers-ad-calling-gaza-a-genocide/The US government does not want to talk about genocide in Gaza
The US government is referring to the civil war in Sudan as genocide. However, it does not want to use the word for Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip.
When asked by a journalist how the situation in the Gaza Strip differs from that in the Sudanese region of Darfur, John Kirby, the communications director of the White House National Security Council, reiterated that the allegations that the Israeli military is committing genocide in Gaza are inaccurate and stressed :
“There is no genocide by Israel against Palestinians. What we see in Sudan is genocide.”
The situation in Sudan is fundamentally different from that in the Gaza Strip because, according to Kirby:
“It’s not every day that Israeli military soldiers wake up, put their boots on the ground and say, ‘Hey, we’re going to go and kill some innocent people because they’re Palestinians.'” https://anti–spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2025/die-us-regierung-will-nicht-von-einem-voelkermord-in-gaza-sprechen/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wappThe Chris Hedges Report: The Zionists Kill Doctors in Gaza and Silence Them Here (w/ Dr. Rupa Marya)
UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk said, “The protection of hospitals during warfare is paramount and must be respected by all sides, at all times.”…
..A professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, Marya now faces suspension for speaking out against Israel’s blatant violations of international law. “The killing of healthcare workers [in Gaza] is related to the silencing of healthcare workers here [in the U.S.], and that by silencing us, the medical institutions we are a part of, which have an obligation, professionally and morally, to uphold all life, are actually abetting and enabling genocide,” Marya tells Hedges.
Marya describes the horror scenes at hospitals across Gaza. The IDF not only targets hospitals with airstrikes but also enters them to deploy gun strapped drones that kill patients and staff as well as destroy vital medical machines and instruments. “Hamas is not hiding in those machines. This is an attempt to shorten the life of Palestinian people,” Marya says.
Mayra, collaborating with a handful of medical professionals and lawyers, is authoring a UN report, addressing what they refer to as “the genocide enablement apparatus of Israel.” Alongside bringing critical attention to the collapse of Gaza’s healthcare system, they urge the inclusion of medical professionals in future international legal frameworks for defining genocide. “It does not take months to see that this was a genocide.” https://scheerpost.com/2025/01/09/the-chris-hedges-report-the-zionists-kill-doctors-in-gaza-and-silence-them-here-w-dr-rupa-marya/Doctors Against Genocide demand release of Kamal Adwan Hospital Director
“We are here to demand immediate action to stop the genocide in Gaza and to protect the most sacred of spaces, hospitals, and the people who dedicate their lives to saving others,” Dr. Nidal Jboor, co-founder of Doctors Against Genocide, told reporters at the Hart Building.
Jboor said hospitals have become targets of destruction. “Every hospital in Gaza has been bombed or rendered inoperable. This is not collateral damage. It is a deliberate, systematic attack on humanity itself,” he added. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250108-doctors-against-genocide-demand-release-of-kamal-adwan-hospital-director/January 11, 2025 at 2:56 pm #179057John DayParticipantIsraeli strikes kill dozens in Gaza amid stepped up ceasefire push
Israeli military strikes across Gaza killed at least 27 people on Wednesday, Palestinian medics said, as international mediators stepped up efforts to seal a ceasefire and hostage exchange deal between Israel and the Palestinian group Hamas.
An airstrike killed at least 10 people in a multi-story house in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood of Gaza City, while another killed five in the nearby Zeitoun suburb, medics said.
In Deir Al-Balah city in central Gaza, where hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians are sheltering, and in Jabalia, the largest of Gaza’s eight historic refugee camps, a total of seven people were killed, they said.
Israel’s military said it struck Hamas militants operating in a school in Jabalia, and that it took steps to minimize risk to civilians. https://www.arabnews.com/node/2585653/middle-east‘We all became ghosts’: survivors recount Israel’s deadly siege of Jabalia refugee camp
Residents of Jabalia refugee camp recount their harrowing experience during the latest Israeli assault on northern Gaza. https://mondoweiss.net/2025/01/we-all-became-ghosts-survivors-recount-israels-deadly-siege-of-jabalia-refugee-camp/Israel takes steps to officially move the genocide to the West Bank Palestinian territory. Tensions rise in the West Bank as PA ‘siege’ on Jenin continues
The Palestinian Authority’s deadly military operation in Jenin continues to fan the flames of internal tensions in the West Bank. Meanwhile, Israeli leaders are calling for ‘Gaza-like’ operations in the West Bank, and to cut all ties with the PA.
On Tuesday, tensions flared after the killing of three Israelis and the wounding of eight in a shooting attack near Qalqilya, in the north east of the Palestinian territory. The shooting provoked a series of Israeli reactions, with high-ranking officials calling for large-scale “Gaza-like” Israeli military actions in the West Bank.
Following the shooting near Qalqilya, Israel’s finance minister Bezalel Smotrich stated that Israel should “pass from defense to offense” in the West Bank, adding that “Jenin and Nablus must look like Jabalia so that Kfar Saba wouldn’t look like Kfar Azza.” Jabalia is the city in northern Gaza that was the target of a massive ethnic cleansing campaign by the Israeli military late last year, resulting in the near total de-population of the area, widespread destruction, and the killing and abduction of hundreds…
..Far-right Israeli National Security Minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, commented on the shooting in Qalqilya saying that “those who seek to end the war in Gaza will have a war in the West Bank,” and called to “cut all ties with the Palestinian Authority,” which according to him “supports terror.” https://mondoweiss.net/2025/01/tensions-rise-in-the-west-bank-as-pa-siege-on-jenin-continues/10 Dead, 10,000 Structures Burned In Los Angeles Area Inferno As Fire Damage Could Exceed $150 Billion https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/10-dead-10000-structures-burned-los-angeles-area-inferno-fire-damage-could-exceed-150
Trump tells California governor to resign
The incoming US president has accused Gavin Newsom of prioritizing “worthless fish” over human lives with his water policies https://swentr.site/news/610615-trump-tells-california-governor-resign/January 11, 2025 at 2:57 pm #179058John DayParticipantArson Threats A “Major Issue” In Wildfire-Ravaged Los Angeles County https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/arson-threats-major-issue-wildfire-ravaged-los-angeles-county
Caught on Camera: Arsonists Starting Fires in Santa Monica, CA https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/caught-on-camera-arsonists-starting-fires-in-santa-monica-ca
“We’re Not Screwing Around”: LA Sheriff Declares Curfew Amid Arson & Looting Chaos https://www.zerohedge.com/political/20-arrested-looting-during-los-angeles-fires
Celia Farber has a lot of news stories here: Burn Back Better: The Mayor Of LA Was A Leading Member Of A Radical Organization With Ties To Another Terrorist Group That Blew Up US Capitol In 1983, And Went On To Launder Money For BLM
Most Dangerous Days For Americans, Mass Casualty Event Cited By HHS At Inauguration, Bronx On Fire, Arson and Looting In LA—Are Pedophile Rings Being Exposed or Covering Evidence? What Is Happening? https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/burn-back-better-the-mayor-of-la Trump Promises To Reveal What’s Going On With The Drones
“I’m going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it’s ridiculous that they’re not telling you about what’s going on with the drones,” Trump told reporters. https://modernity.news/2025/01/10/trump-promises-to-reveal-whats-going-on-with-the-drones/January 11, 2025 at 2:58 pm #179059John DayParticipant As nations around the world push to introduce and expand liberal euthanasia laws, the plans are sounding eerily similar to the “assisted suicide” agenda billionaire Bill Gates has been promoting for several years.
The Microsoft co-founder argues that it is not cost-effective to provide individuals with long-term healthcare. Instead, Gates believes his fellow human beings should be euthanized to reduce healthcare costs so that the money that would have been used for treatments can be spent elsewhere.
In 2010, Gates weighed up the cost of keeping “terminally ill” Americans alive versus paying for teachers’ salaries.
Gates lamented:
Americans are unwilling to question if spending money on people in the last three months of their lives was cost-effective.
He suggested:
[T[here wasn’t a benefit in end-of-life care and a decision should be made to end people’s lives instead of providing costly palliative care.
He argued:
[A] panel of bureaucrats should decide whether a person deserves to receive treatment, with those who are not ‘worthy of healthcare’ being euthanized by the government to save money.
Concerning the group who would decide whether people get to live or die, he said:
That’s called the ‘death panel.’ https://defconnews.com/2025/01/09/it-was-bill-gates-who-started-the-call-for-death-panels-to-euthanize-citizens-not-worthy-of-healthcare-several-countries-are-now-there/ Canadian Doctors Suggest Harvesting Organs From Euthanasia Patients Before They’re Dead
Medical freedom advocates are documenting emerging ties between ‘medical assistance in dying’ and organ harvesting.
Canadian doctors have suggested killing euthanasia victims by taking their organs, according to multiple reports, whistleblowers, and public talks. Medical freedom advocates are documenting emerging ties between “medical assistance in dying” (MAID) and organ harvesting.
“The best use of my organs, if I’m going to receive a medically assisted death, might be to not first kill me and then retrieve my organs, but to have my mode of death — as we medically consider death now — to be to retrieve my organs,” said Rob Sibbald, an ethicist of the London Health Sciences Centre in Ontario. https://basedunderground.com/2025/01/08/canadian-doctors-suggest-harvesting-organs-from-euthanasia-patients-before-theyre-dead/Picking up steam… Canada Killed Over 15,000 People Under MAiD Euthanasia Program https://www.lifenews.com/2025/01/09/canada-killed-over-15000-people-under-maid-euthanasia-program/
Jeff Childers, THE GRAND JURY REPORT ☙ Thursday, January 9, 2025 ☙ C&C NEWS
Everything you need to know about the Florida Grand Jury’s final report on the vaccines.
The Grand Jury began by noting that the FDA’s approval process for the covid ‘vaccines’ was anything but normal. The seeds of problem were planted long before the vaccines were approved at warp speed:..
“As befits a once-in-a-hundred-year pandemic, the first clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines conducted in the wake of the OWS ‘contract derby’ departed in many ways from the ordinary vaccine approval process. Some of those departures were understandable given the extraordinary nature of the crisis, some of them less so. By another axis, some of these departures resulted in relatively little loss of safety or efficacy data, but others had catastrophic and long-term consequences for our understanding of the ability of these mRNA vaccine products to mitigate risks associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection”.
The bottom line is the Grand Jury, having reviewed all the evidence, concluded the FDA erred by approving the jabs for anyone but the most at risk. “Unlike the FDA,” the Grand Jury concluded, “we do not believe that the COVID-19 ‘emergency’ necessarily applied to everyone; the EUA should only have been granted as to the elderly and comorbid populations most at risk from SARS-Co V-2 complications.” https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/the-grand-jury-report-thursday-january Free Speech Win Down-Under as Misinformation Bill Is Officially Binned
In a win for free speech advocates, the Australian Government formally abandoned its misinformation bill over the weekend, after failing to secure support in the Senate.
The proposed laws would have forced social media companies to show that they were preventing the spread of misinformation and disinformation on their platforms, with fines of up to 5% of global revenue for non-compliance. https://brownstone.org/articles/free-speech-win-down-under-as-misinformation-bill-is-officially-binned/January 11, 2025 at 2:58 pm #179060John DayParticipant ‘Monster’ Fauci should be jailed – Joe Rogan
The popular podcaster expressed surprise that the former US chief medical adviser is “still walking around”
The imposition of restrictive measures and the scientist’s reported involvement in suppressing the theory that the virus may have originated from US-funded gain-of-function research in China have made Fauci a controversial figure.
Gibson was a guest on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast on Thursday. Both men wondered how Fauci was “still walking around,” or “at least free” after his actions during the pandemic.
They were discussing the 2021 book by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. titled ‘The Real Anthony Fauci’. The author, a healthcare campaigner turned politician, described Fauci as an official in cahoots with big pharmaceutical corporations, who had abused his power for decades. https://swentr.site/news/610661-fauci-walking-around-jre/ So algorithmic censorship again? Peter Hotez Publishes His ‘Antivaccine’ Counterattack Plans
State-run “encyclopedia of vaccine myths” that “debunks” information in real-time, vaccine mandates, and prevention of full informed consent. https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/peter-hotez-publishes-his-antivaccine Russian “Biotic Pump” Physicist Anastassia Makarieva notices what I have noticed for decades, that the scientific abstract “conclusion” is often different from the actual findings and implications of the research, in order to get it published. Why it is important to read scientific papers beyond their abstracts, especially when it is about the role of CO2 in climate https://bioticregulation.substack.com/p/why-it-is-important-to-read-scientific
January 11, 2025 at 3:01 pm #179061John DayParticipantQueried tboc: “is there a word for arguing against what you are arguing for?”
A: Antithesis
ex: “I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him…”January 11, 2025 at 4:08 pm #179062phoenixvoiceParticipantEverything a human is capable of doing can be done by AI, and machines can do it well,
No.
AI cannot “do” genuine empathy. And empathy is at the root of human interactions.January 11, 2025 at 4:08 pm #179063those darned kidsParticipantso if the people of greenland vote to become gringos,
¿does that mean the people of crimea voted to become russians?
January 11, 2025 at 4:18 pm #179064NoiretteParticipantOn top post;
https://swentr.site/news/610715-greenland-pm-ready-talk-trump/
Greenland PM is ready to talk to Trump, from RT.
Yes, rightio, imho the right move.
The MSM and some commentarors are super confused.
Greenland (G) is NOT part of the EU.
It left in1985 after a referendum.
Roughly, outpost North West of the European Continent: Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Faroe Islands, are not part of the EU. (UK now also, and Jersey and Guernsey were never a part either.)
Yet, G is a ‘full’ member of NATO and of the Coucil of Europe.
The reasons for G not signing on to the EU, concern mostly fishing rights, shipping (i.e. the SEA legislation in general), labor laws, and more.
(Note, the EU has supported G financially, very massively. Like survival funds…)
“The desire for independence, the wish to be in one’s own house, is probably understood by all people in the world,” Egede said. “We do not want to be Danish, we do not want to be Americans, we want to be Greenlandic.” – from article
A nice sentiment, but G can’t defend itself and has now to be dependent on some World Power.
One poll in 2024 (before the recent upheavals) showed that Greenlanders were ready to join the EU.
From Wiki, imho correct.
“The Brexit debate has reignited talk about the EU in Greenland, and there have been calls for the island to rejoin the Union.[14] In 2024 an opinion poll found that 60 percent of Greenland’s population would vote in favour of re-joining the EU, an increase from 2021 where only 40 percent were in favour.”
That is all over now, and I wouldn’t be at all suprised if G so to speak went its own way, looking to its own advantage, etc. which might speedily be, going Trumpy. Imho that is why there is rhetoric about leaving ‘Denmark’ (to put it briefly), becoming ‘independent’ (which afaik G can do within Int’l law with a referendum, but I might be mistaken about that.)
January 11, 2025 at 4:23 pm #179065tbocParticipantDr. John, more in the vein of arguing a concept cannot be both true and false while employing the argument another concept is both true and false?
A state not quite circular logic, which might be innocent. Perhaps a reference is being made to “a wicked web”.juxtaposition – Antony
January 11, 2025 at 4:23 pm #179066zerosumParticipant… And empathy is at the root of human interactions.
??? Genocides ???
??? poverty, homeless ???January 11, 2025 at 4:28 pm #179067those darned kidsParticipantcan you spot the difference:
tdk ≠ war criminal.
elon musk = war criminal.
January 11, 2025 at 4:31 pm #179068Doc RobinsonParticipant“arguing a concept cannot be both true and false while employing the argument another concept is both true and false”
Paradox?
Schrodinger’s cat?
January 11, 2025 at 4:42 pm #179069Doc RobinsonParticipantDuplicitousness?
January 11, 2025 at 4:50 pm #179070tbocParticipantDoc Robinson we are on the same page
deceitWe are weakend and we will use our strength to overcome our weakness.
January 11, 2025 at 4:58 pm #179071tbocParticipantas opposed to
We are weakend and we must strive for the strength to put our weakness behind us.
January 11, 2025 at 5:44 pm #179074tbocParticipantone more and i will give you rest
for reflectionthe derivatives market is unregulated. Do you believe anyone in the soon to be inaugurated administration has the understanding of the precarious balance of the global hedges necessary to weigh their impact of their economic policies? Does either of the two DOGE boys even consider the derivative trade in their world view?
My position: No
January 11, 2025 at 6:07 pm #179075those darned kidsParticipantderivatives = schrödinger’s money
January 11, 2025 at 6:54 pm #179076John DayParticipant@tboc: “Poets, priests and politicians have words to thank for their positions…” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfJ6z45o-Rg
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