Debt Rattle January 22 2021
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January 22, 2021 at 10:18 am #68697Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Vincent van Gogh Laboureur dans un champ 1889 • 1000s Of Guardsmen Forced To Vacate Capitol, Sleep In Parking Garage (Pol.) • Words of Division
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 22 2021]January 22, 2021 at 11:35 am #68698Basseterre KitonaParticipantMerkel To Close German Borders Unless EU Agrees On Covid-19 Fight (RT)
What’s the point of all of these travel restrictions when the virus is everywhere already? Most people aren’t really looking to travel right now anyways.
Someday, in the not too distant future, we will look back at all the efforts to “control” the spread of the virus and realize that it was all a totally unscientific shot in the dark and a total waste of time and effort. As long as there are still humans, then a virus outbreak like this is going to spread until it inevitably burns itself out.
Lockdowns are worse than useless. Masks are nearly useless. Vaccinations are beginning to look half-useless too. They only thing to be done is treat the sick as best we can and let the rest of go about our lives as best we can too.
I can’t wait until the current crop of politicians (Merkel, Macron, Biden, etc.) are flushed out of office.
January 22, 2021 at 11:46 am #68699Dr. DParticipantJust like I said. Just like they knew. …So just maybe it was NEVER about a disease that 99.997% people just walk away from? It was always about something else. You’ve been raped. You have no human rights. You are under forever martial law. Your children are being tortured. By you. What does it take?
@Day, yes, those things in the Club of Rome are true. But correlation is not causality. This is the same as Malthusian theory: dead wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. Forever and ever wrong. When do they give up and throw it in? Just like AGW: Never. Lifetimes of Scientists is not enough to give up on the theory of wrong predictions.
Okay, not just throwing fire. We know there are about 100,000 things they COULD do and DON’T do. They could have NOT paved all of China and every rice patty. They COULD have not paved The Garden State from end to end. They could have not leveled the Amazon to grow palm oil. They could have grown a thing in Africa. All these things are PAID not to do. By top down tax law, building codes, if not soldiers as the IMF and Perkins wrote. If anyone does them, they are mercilessly attacked, overthrown, whole generations are not enough blood and treasure to throw at NOT having food, NOT finding resources. …Yet you say we don’t have the resources we’ve been busy stopping ourselves from getting? By outlawing drilling off three coasts, for instance?
How about this: The Club of Rome was set up or picked up by people who WANT this to happen and be true. NeoFeudalists who want the world to be a quiet, unresisting Swiss manor house with state-sized palatial hunting grounds where every daughter is available for private flights. A scientist appears, they say C’est ca, and back that guy and his friends with billions, get his book in print for 100 years. Fire every professor on the Chicago Dept of Economics and install their own. In short, they MAKE it true. It wasn’t true then, it isn’t true now, they MADE it happen.
Right now America STILL has so much unused land we could feed Belgium with the shoulders of our highways. Texas alone could hold the population of the earth. We have no silver mines, rare earth mines, no railways, no silos, and 3 million? 30 million? unoccupied houses. We have material sciences breaking ground for everything, the life of a man takes 1/10th the energy it once did. But we ran out of resources? No, we have 100 billionaires making trouble, flying worldwide CAUSING the shortages. Iran alone could be opened and flood the world with $10 oil for another 100 years. They don’t WANT that. As the man said, “Competition is a sin.” The only crime is low prices.
Similarly, perhaps under some interpretations the Bible was already fulfilled in Revelations under Nero and the attack on Palestine in 70AD. Newsflash: NO ONE CARES. They – complete atheists and worse, like those who set up Israel — simply hijack the Bible to push forward todays’ agendas. Nobody cares if that’s TRUE. Nobody cares if that’s going to happen. They just PAY Iran to promote the Imam. They just PAY the Christians in America to promote the final battles, “God’s land”, Israel, and incidentally the Rapture. The story don’t mean nothing. They hijacked and paid big money so YOU, your neighbors would believe such codswollop and act the way they want you to. To direct your human energy to their ends.
I mean, if Epstein got on a podium and just SAID what they wanted you wouldn’t cooperate, would you? They answer is easy: they LIE. They tell you a story. A con. A lie.
So with the Club of Rome. Or AGW, as is stupidly apparent now. Covid, GND, Reset, AGW, many more, ALL these ends, and a new one this year all coincidentally have the same solution: NeoFeudalism, a “Great Reset” a BTU currency run by the same people with an authoritarian digital-tracking state founded and run on murder and depopulation. …Of their enemies.
Come on. Think positive a second. Are there solutions? I can increase the food output 10-fold simply by moving the unemployed who need jobs, back to the land to hand-work the fields. That’s the world’s simplest win and they blow millions in tax incentives to insure it — solutions — don’t happen. Trust me, I’m not the only one who’s ever thought of this. Doing so, they won’t be 24/7/365 consumers. They’ll be 40h, 60h PRODUCERS. Shock: more will be produced, less will be consumed. What we have goes further, in time and space.
It’s a scam. Club of Rome may mean well, but it’s garbage in, garbage out. Their premises are dead wrong so their conclusions are dead wrong. It’s just because they hadn’t invented the new and better lies of made-up computer models yet. You know, ones that no matter what data you put in, the conclusion is “temperatures rise.” The deserts, the whole silk road, is greening. Did they add THAT to their model?
January 22, 2021 at 11:57 am #68700Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster“my parents said know” asked that I post this here.
The Chinese Communist Party’s Global Lockdown Fraud
We are writing this letter to request that a federal investigation be commenced and/or expedited regarding the scientific debate on major policy decisions during the COVID-19 crisis. In the course of our work, we have identified issues of a potentially criminal nature and believe this investigation necessary to ensure the interests of the public have been properly represented by those promoting certain pandemic policies.
January 22, 2021 at 12:45 pm #68701Dr. DParticipantFrom yesterday, let’s go the other way:
What if the military is NOT interested in whether the President and civilian government are installed by foreign powers? That’s perfectly possible and acceptable conclusion. Why not? What if the Globalists in the Pentagon have prevailed and the Nationalists retreat to internecine, interdepartmental holdout? Merely a dwindling influence? They popped up just to get some ammunition from sharing the bribery and blackmail info on their adversaries, but could not prevail? I see no reason this shouldn’t be equally likely.
Well, if the Military is generally against the people or at the least, only completely self-interested in their own departments and budgets, I need not tell you how grave our situation would be. That would leave we the people with no allies and no power centers whatsoever. Worse, if global from top to bottom, they will promptly finish attacking, murdering, and taking over the rest of the world as the expense of you the world’s peoples, a couple millions, so this isn’t just Americans at risk here.
Likewise, the recent foray has exposed and self-selected the people with AI scanning for certain extermination. Of far more than Bill Ayers’ 30 million, and worse, they will be capable of doing it because the military will be tasked with the deed. Of killing their own states, regions, and families: predominantly red.
Just saying, don’t see why that isn’t an equal conclusion here. You have to respond to what you believe is happening with your own life.
Suppose the military DID intervene. Suckfest. No good at all. Even perfectly, like Rome, the people would just eat nachos on the couch and go “Hey man, why work? Why fix? Why repent? The military’s got this, just like last time?” That solution is no solution at all. And that’s ASIDE from the “coup” problem, losing the Republic when Julius fell problem, and the “military now influences, runs, and smashes things” problem.
Suppose our savior is God-emperor Trump, like Julius? So we put our trust in the law of men now? Not in Liberty? Not in hard work and self-action? Not in Law, rules? How will half the country like that solution? Aren’t we better off without that “fix”? The only solution, as by Abundance to decadence, decadence to bondage, bondage to faith…is Faith. We are a nation under GOD, under LAW, which is equivalent. Under rules and process and order. Until they break their daddy complex of government-is-our-god, Left AND Right, we’re going nowhere. We lose. And it’s the Right that needs to learn that but good.
Me? For some reason I just don’t see it. That’s more or less completely illogical, which may or may not be unusual for me. The nation is acting the same, as is the market.
But let’s pretend things are just as they seem and there may or may not be two parallel governments right now, or that Mr. T has the same number of people obeying his orders that he had even when his requests were given more broadly. You know: a coterie while 98% of self-interested, self-serving government ignores him.
What’s the first thing we see? Well, first thing they did was screw all the Progressives, right hard. The whole cabinet is made of Cheney-Rumsfeld clones. Second, they attacked all women. You are no longer safe anywhere you go. The unique, carved out spaces that protected you from men, all gone. Wiped out black and brown Americas. 11 million workers now competing for your low-wage jobs and a million more on the way. That’s just the first 10 hours. Now they’re going to totally destroy the poor. With what? Doubling down on inflation, printing $2T, increasing minimum wages to $15, wiping out a million more jobs. And that’s because inflation is a transfer of the nation’s wealth to the RICH. Like Argentina. Two-tier society, spiraling, moon-shot income disparity.
Beyond the total lack of unity, mouthing it – which is noted and appreciated – but focusing on non-specific universal “racism”, i.e. an attack on every red person coast to coast as Nazis to be purged, as expected and said by shameless pundits 24/7, calling for their open murder, fully, joyfully supported on organized by Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Okay, nevermind that. Nevermind the censorship:
THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE ECONOMY OF THE UNITED STATES.
Small business, largely, but “business”, outside of government-created monopolies, are overwhelmingly red. And I know that is the plan, “burn it to the ground” “by any means necessary”, but if the whole economy stops participating, stops working, stops producing, and hides their money rather than be targets and slaves to the free s—t army, then yes, as by design, the real economy stops. As expected, predicted, planned, there are no goods. Stores are empty. People starve. That’s not red people, that’s blue people. By design. Cities, not the country. By design. The coasts burn, the inner cities, not Nebraska. Nebraska’s gonna eat. Nebraska doesn’t have high expectations of new iPhones and $10 lattes. Red people will have their money buried in pots of gold coins somehow, just as the English did when Rome fell, never you fear. So they will pull in their horns and stop, go get a coin when they need one meal. Build no apartments, fix no roofs, drive no trucks. Not as a strike, perhaps, but as “You pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.”
Sounds like a recipe for joy and abundance, racial harmony and stable governments to me. Ask Argentina how it’s going. Ask Russia, since that’s the overthrow plan they’re following right now.
BEFORE JOE EVEN GOT IN, riots in NYC, home of Progressivism, injuring 11. Portland already marching Joe is not their President, ALL governments, all laws are illegitimate, and they intend to keep uprising, revolting without pause. Joe throws a party instead, and 6,000 people die of Covid.
Hey, that’s how the rules work now, right? This is Joe’s America.
My point is, he can either round up and arrest all AntiFa, proving he’s a fascist in the night of the long knives, losing his far-Left brownshirts and their campaign of terror against the right, (or rather, people considered “normal” just a year ago) OR he can let them keep going and discredit him and tear the party apart.
In the meantime, we have Jimmy Dore exposing the NeoLibs and the Squad as ruthless self-interested sellouts. He will also split the party, and Joe can also lose his base or punish Dore and expose himself as a corporate fascist pitted against the people.
AND he has the red army who hasn’t yet developed a response but if pressed will stop producing, go local, and resist all cultural or governmental move and laws as illegitimate. Nor will they have any choice. They are slated for complete extermination, they couldn’t stay uninvolved even if they wanted to. And they always wanted to. Their sole demand is to be left alone, and that is clearly impossible.
Have we seen the word “Pyrrhic” yet? The castle ring-fence of 25,000 troops with 500 men inside now seems the perfect symbol of where we are now. Joe’s inauguration was ratio’d on YouTube, with overwhelming downvotes. They removed/covered the counter on the White House site. The comments have to be erased. And this is on Google. THEIR sandbox, their stronghold. THEIR completely empty, unattended inauguration. They can’t even appear legit in their own room.
In only 48 hours. What do you think the year brings? Crackdown, no crackdown. Left-facing, Right-facing. Economy, no economy. Stimulus, no stimulus. Cooperation, no cooperation?
Good luck. You’ll need it. Sic Semper Tyrannus. This is your supper. I don’t need to do a thing.
All I have to do is not lose.
January 22, 2021 at 2:59 pm #68702Dr. DParticipant“Four people charged in Portland after demonstrators vandalized federal ICE building, Democratic Party state headquarters: –CNN
What? These are peaceful protestors, exercising their first amendment rights, and Biden’s gestapo is attacking them! It’s the end of Democracy. Fight da power! Down with the man!
Okay, over/under on Biden attacking all Antifa? About 6 hours. “And thank you for your support.”
January 22, 2021 at 3:08 pm #68703Mr. HouseParticipantDr D
Look at that sign. Normal people don’t march around with a sign like that. Perhaps, just perhaps, they’ve received their marching orders to create a ruckus and get patriot act 2.0 rubber stamped.
January 22, 2021 at 3:09 pm #68704Mr. HouseParticipantthe right hasn’t taken the bait. Did you watch that video i posted yesterday of the gentleman at the state capital eloquently stating his case? When have you heard something like that from Antifa? One side spews hate and then accuses the other of being hate filled bigots
January 22, 2021 at 3:13 pm #68706Mr. HouseParticipantThey aren’t smart either. How does revenge correct everything they have on that stupid sign? They aren’t even smart enough to understand that the very act of revenge makes them as abhorrent as those they criticize
January 22, 2021 at 3:26 pm #68707Dr D RichParticipantThen what Dr. D means is the inter-penetration of business with government is now complete with the corporate control/penetration of the US military. However. Smedley Butler addressed that issue long ago while the process has been proceeding, as processes are wont to do, with the expansion for example, of coveted SECDEF-Corporate Fellowships for the chosen, ambitious or elite officers, notwithstanding the revolving door for flag officers. Concomitantly, where the typical congressman doesn’t openly sneer contemptuously at the typical deplorable filling the deplorable National Guard ranks, the rest of Congress pays limp lip service to, well, the average active duty soldier’s service. “Thank you for your service.”
Like I said, the military failed its Commander in Chief, abandoned its post, and failed its oath under the Constitution Title X US Code. What’s left is everyone fighting for a few scraps from the table of our betters.
As so often accompanies such displays, fealty and fecklessness stride the commons hand in hand.January 22, 2021 at 3:29 pm #68708zerosumParticipantHIGHLIGHTS – MEMORABLE WORDS
Capitol insurrection: (FALSE FLAG)
national unity: (MY WAY)
remember who put him there, (through constant, daily repetition): (MY DREAM)
banished us to the corner of a parking garage: (VETERAN STREET PEOPLE)
Evidence-free accusations Pelosi and Clinton etc: ( HUNTER _ FABRICATION)
The rifles brandished by many of the troops were conspicuously without a magazine loaded: (PAPER TIGER)
VACCINE, FACE MASKS, DISTANCE: (NEW NORMAL)
VIRTUAL: (PRINTING, ASSETS, BORROWING, SECURED)
Doubling down on inflation: ( printing ANOTHER $2T)
January 22, 2021 at 3:33 pm #68709kultsommerParticipantThe way how soldiers are treated shows a true face of $1T war machine.
Race issue in the US. Once when I was in NY I actually realized how people in LA basin are self-segregated for the good part and like it that way. Mostly car transportation helps further in that direction.
12,000 Covid infections is a good thing – hopefully it will question the purpose then stop vaccination craze.
Sunflowers, “starry night” and all “wavy” paintings like this are so “chocolate box” commercialized that I rather prefer his other work.
January 22, 2021 at 3:51 pm #68710zerosumParticipantINAUGURATION – Bernie Sanders
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-bernie-sanders-has-said-about-becoming-the-biggest-meme-of-2021/ar-BB1d09v3
What Bernie Sanders Has Said about Becoming the Biggest Meme of 2021January 22, 2021 at 4:52 pm #68711Dr. DParticipantThey have so soundly and certainly won that YouTube still feels the need to keep telling me who the President is on every video.
Guys? If you have to say there is no bank run, there’s a bank run. Doin’ great! Never better!
January 22, 2021 at 5:04 pm #68712Mr. HouseParticipant“They have so soundly and certainly won that YouTube still feels the need to keep telling me who the President is on every video.
Guys? If you have to say there is no bank run, there’s a bank run. Doin’ great! Never better!”
I concur. I posted this at MOA yesterday. “When you need to have more troops at your inauguration then we had in the green zone in iraq, what does that say about your confidence in yourself and how much the people love you?”
and got this as a response:
“When you need to have more troops at your inauguration then we had in the green zone in iraq, what does that say about your confidence in yourself and how much the people love you?
wow, it’s as if the events of January 6th never happened.
you fascist f*cks are wasting no time piling on the new Prez.
I am out of here. for good
Have fun turning this site into a swamp of Putinversteher and Trump die-hards.”
to which i responded:
You are unhealthy, i suggest you seek help. Never voted for trump, he’s a WWE conman. One of us is able to be objective, one of us is not.
January 22, 2021 at 5:06 pm #68713Doc RobinsonParticipantHas anyone seen any reported evidence of vaccine efficacy?
In an article published today by the journal Nature, preliminary studies in Israel are showing only 33% efficacy, instead of the 52% claimed by Pfizer, after the first dose.
Are COVID vaccination programmes working? Scientists seek first cluesIn a preliminary analysis of 200,000 people older than 60 who received the vaccine, compared with a matched group of 200,000 who did not, researchers found that the chances of testing positive for the virus were 33% lower two weeks after the first injection… Another analysis, by Maccabi Healthcare Services, found a similar trend, although neither study has been peer-reviewed.
…more than 75% of older people in Israel have been vaccinated
January 22, 2021 at 5:46 pm #68714maryballonParticipantThis is a careful visual showing the “science” behind the lockdowns and the CCP.
January 22, 2021 at 5:58 pm #68715zerosumParticipantTHE BATTLE FOR YOUR $
WHO IS AGAINST YOU.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/miracle-drug-ivermectin-unproven-against-covid-scientists-warn-1.5268249
Julie Charpentrat
Published Friday, January 15, 2021
Can you find all the 1/2 truths, lies, and omissions?‘Miracle’ drug ivermectin unproven against COVID, scientists warn
Ivermectin is one of a string of medications tested as a potential COVID-19 treatment since the pandemic began.
Ivermectin has long been used to treat parasites such as head lice and has been widely distributed in sub-Saharan Africa since the 1990s to treat river blindness.
Like anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine — so far unproven by clinical trials — ivermectin is widely available and relatively cheap.January 22, 2021 at 6:02 pm #68716NoiretteParticipantThis characterization of America’s worsening racism is not just factually ungrounded, it is also a tasteless rhetorical move in an inaugural address. Reflexive invocations of “systemic racism” and “white supremacy” have become the Tourette’s Syndrome of left-wing professors and activists.
– from article in top post
This is merely the well-know tactic of reducing class differences to ‘racism’, as now, the Dems and the oligarchs behind them, touting junk readings. The message is, if you are black-minority-trans-whatever and poor, struggling or desperate, it is because of your *identity* – race, sexual orientation, weight, etc. – and not because the system is rigged against you and will continue to be so!
The message is: Don’t dare question the pay you get (..or no income at all and your children starving) or the conditions you work in or your lack of med care. Concentrate on the understanding that you are: choose, category 1,2,3,4,… and claim your rights! Over others, such as, white men who are bosses, white women who are bitches, hetero-sex ppl, etc. etc. ad nauseam.
Classical script. What happens is that some ‘minority figures’ are co-opted to ‘rise’ and ‘have influence’ (appear in front of the cams) – they are often stooges and bow down to their ‘betters’ and simply tag along and re-inforce whatever is demanded, which is why they were hoisted in the first place, or possibly once there with subsequent dashed hopes, had no choice except to obey.
I’m exagerating somewhat, sigh, why ppl fall for this trick over and over again gets my goat.
More alarming is this part (same article):
How this agenda will play out has already been adumbrated in the CDC’s initial priority list for Covid vaccinations: hold off on vaccinating the elderly, despite their higher risk levels, because the elderly are disproportionately white. Racial quotas will become even more the order of the day than now. The diversity obsessives in the federal science bureaucracies waited out Donald Trump’s presidency. They will now redouble their efforts to treat a researcher’s race and sex as scientific qualifications in the awarding of federal research grants. (…)
Racial quotas? Anti-racism orgs. are supposed to be against that I thought? If the Pfizer vaccine is a scam or possibly ‘dangerous’ (other topic) why are useless eaters (elderly) and disadvantaged groups the first in line?
January 22, 2021 at 6:11 pm #68717Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterOK Doc Robinson, that’s at least something.
But still…
• Where did the preliminary analysis that indicates a 33% lower virus rate, take place, and who did it?
• Why does the article at the same time say that “Clinical trials of the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine show it to be around 90% effective”? Those trials are Pfizer’s own, right?
• And this is just weak: “If vaccines are effective at preventing infections, then their indirect benefit — protecting unvaccinated people — will be visible only once enough people have been immunized..”
• AKA we have no idea. We follow the results the vaccine makers provide us with as we’re all giving them billions of dollars a day. While we could have also bought vit. D, ivermectin, HCQ with that money, and saved a bundle.
January 22, 2021 at 6:29 pm #68718Doc RobinsonParticipantProfessor Ran Balicer is a physician, epidemiologist and chief innovation officer for Clalit, the largest health care provider in Israel. He is also an adviser to the World Health Organisation.
“We compared 200,000 people above the age of 60 that were vaccinated. We took a comparison group of 200,000 people, same age, not vaccinated, that were matched to this group on various variables…” Prof Balicer said.
“Then we looked to see what is the daily positivity rate… And we saw that there was no difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated until day 14 post-vaccination.
“But on day 14 post-vaccination, a drop of 33% in positivity was witnessed in the vaccinated group and not in the unvaccinated… this is really good news.”
However, UK scientists said in December that trial data had suggested it would be 89% effective after one dose.
A document issued by the UK government’s vaccine advisers, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, to justify delaying the second dose for up to 12 weeks said: “Using data for those cases observed between day 15 and 21, efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 was estimated at 89%, suggesting that short term protection from dose 1 is very high from day 14 after vaccination.”
January 22, 2021 at 6:31 pm #68719Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterOkay Doc, we’re getting somewhere. Not exactly sure where that is, but it’s not nowhere.
January 22, 2021 at 6:34 pm #68720kultsommerParticipant@ Mr. House
Have we ever stopped and ponder the thought that in democracy one should actually embrace those comments that you’ve listed and “fight to death” so they can be expressed? Why eye roll and dismay?
What are the wars of “protecting our democracy” or “bringing (even false) democracy to others”?
I am not trying to be smart ass but as someone grappling with the entire concept myself.
What is the solution? Some ruler, “Good King” in Jungian sense, with white knights of justice? Hardly human concept.January 22, 2021 at 6:40 pm #68721Mr. HouseParticipantKultsommer
What are you getting at? Treat others the way you want to be treated? Don’t throw rocks if you live in a glass house?
January 22, 2021 at 6:41 pm #68722Mr. HouseParticipantgreat principles to live by
January 22, 2021 at 6:42 pm #68723Mr. HouseParticipantJanuary 22, 2021 at 6:45 pm #68724Doc RobinsonParticipantSummary of the articles I posted above:
Trial data had suggested the vaccine would be 89% effective after one dose, and this 89% number was used to justify the delaying of the second dose up to 12 weeks in the UK. However, real-world data from Israel shows only 33% efficacy after the first dose, instead of 89%.
Now the BMJ has an article about it:
Concerns have been raised over how much protection a single dose of the Pfizer BioNTech covid-19 vaccine provides, following reports from Israel that it is much lower than expected.
January 22, 2021 at 8:00 pm #68725my parents said knowParticipantMaryballon’s video is the visual of the link Ilargi so kindly provided for me. The written version has all the references, for those that would like to see them, and has more detail.
Thanks Ilarge. Thanks, maryballon.January 22, 2021 at 8:00 pm #68726my parents said knowParticipantSorry, Ilargi.
January 22, 2021 at 8:03 pm #68727kultsommerParticipantMr. House
Getting nowhere, as I’d said “I, myself is grappling with the concept.”
Would not have made my post addressed to you, if I have not sensed almost salivating gusto the way you made list of “stupid comments”. Also noticed (see, again!) irritating tone in your reply. Aren’t my “opinion” equal to yours? Embrace it, dude!
Now, add me to your list.January 22, 2021 at 8:15 pm #68728Mr. HouseParticipanta list? I’m confused. Those comments were not made to show someone as stupid or not stupid. Those comments were made to show how unhinged as a society we are becoming. People making baseless accusations against people they don’t know. Gotta love the internet! I am here to call the hypocrisy i see on both sides, because until people understand that we’ll go nowhere in the current allowed narrative, well we’ll just continue to go nowhere. If i was irritated its because i’m not sure what you mean? If you want to call me a nazi, well them fighting words dude. Thats not saying, well sir i respectfully disagree with your viewpoint and here is why! What list am i adding you to again? I’ve got a list of movies i enjoy, bands i like, books i love, but i ain’t no steve buscmi in happy gilmore.
January 22, 2021 at 8:40 pm #68729Mr. HouseParticipantSorry it was billy madison
January 22, 2021 at 8:46 pm #68730Mr. HouseParticipantAlso i don’t believe in censorship, if kultsommer was implying that. Now with regards to calling out hypocrisy, one side of the uniparty as WES calls them is calling for censorship. Not me! Don’t worry folks, i’ll never get anywhere near the levers of power 😉
January 22, 2021 at 8:53 pm #68731zerosumParticipantBiden, (all gov.), are going to use the “printing press” to pay for everything. … Better food stamps, better welfare, etc.
Opppps I forgot …. pay for all the loans, pay for all the bonds, pay for all the expenses, and pay for all the purchases, pay for all bankrupt companies.
There will not be a need to raise taxes.https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/janet-yellen-talking-out-both-sides-her-mouth
The truth is, Yellen doesn’t care about the debt, and she, nor the newly installed Biden administration, will ever do anything to address it. The strategy is to spend, spend, spend, and continue to kick the debt-can down the road. In fact, this has been the strategy of both Republicans and Democrats for decades.
Pretty much everybody pays lip-service to the national debt, just as Yellen did. But while politicians of every stripe have jawboned about the need for fiscal responsibility and talked vaguely about “dealing with our rising debt” – someday – the national debt now approaches $28 trillion. This has to make one wonder, at exactly what number does legitimate concern kick in? $30 trillion? $40 trillion?
I’ll give you a hint: there is no number.
January 22, 2021 at 9:59 pm #68732kultsommerParticipantYou did not have a “list”. Fair enough.
Let me conclude: For the most part of my life I took democratic idea of having a right to one’s opinion and obligation to “defend it at any cost” with “of course, what else” attitude, Watching the nation divided and different groups “expressing” themselves in various ways SUDDENLY it dawned to me how that notion is full of crap and most hypocritical ever uttered by men. Hawing hit that cognitive dissonance wall, I was hoping for some clarification of what is that I am missing.
That’s all. No more questions from me, I promise.January 22, 2021 at 10:07 pm #68733WESParticipantWhen it comes to studying the effectiveness of vaccines, Israel is an interesting test lab, having vaccinated over 20% of it’s population. Way more than anyone else!
As with any lab test, you have your theory and then you have your lab test results or reality.
So after testing 200,000 vacinnated people verses 200,000 unvacinated people, the vaccinnated group showed a 33% reduction in positive results verses the unvacinnated group.
Objectively, I would say the real world results were a resounding failure! You only reduced the infection rate by 1/3! Your vaccine failed to protect 2/3rds of the vacinnated people!
However the timing of this test maybe somewhat suspect. To test for this maybe you need to do a second test a few weeks later to see if increased time alters the real world results.
Hopefully you will also have noticed the irony of Pfizer not carrying out any of these expensive tests. Running tests would hurt their huge profit margins.
January 22, 2021 at 10:21 pm #68734WESParticipantI have to reflect upon the increasing volume of weasel words coming out of both the CDC and the WH concerning the vaccine.
They are now saying everyone must continue masking, social distancing, and staying locked down.
Clearly they don’t want to suddenly lose their new found powers over us.
It also indirectly reveals the truth about the new vaccines.
January 22, 2021 at 10:36 pm #68735Mr. HouseParticipantSo don’t defend your opinions because its hypocritical? I’m still not sure what you’re getting at, please explain because you are engaging me and i’d love to understand what you’re talking about.
January 23, 2021 at 12:16 am #68736madamski cafoneParticipant@ WES
“Clearly they don’t want to suddenly lose their new found powers over us.”
Forgive my devilish advocacy as I observe that they generally want whatever power is available so long as they don’t have to take much genuine responsibility. Just the dressing-like-mommy&daddy kind. It’s a constant in any such equation, oui?
“They are now saying everyone must continue masking, social distancing, and staying locked down.”
This too, I must, I do, I feel compelled *to respond to (the voices they won’t let me stop!). Monkey see-monkey do, CYA, whistle past the graveyard, follow the guy in front of you and trust the leader knows where the cherry pitfalls and molasses swamps are, is historically as good an explanation of this uncanny coordination of evil-by-chaos, as Everything Is Going According to Their Master Plan is.
*no particular reason; I just get compulsive sometimes. 😉Certain elite types are very good at scamming the people. Elon Musk is a stellar example all around. He could get Kanye booed off a stage in 3 minutes of a debate or charm contest. But for the most part, an overwhelmingly major most part, the elites and their rhemorae are just frizzy, fussy, sissy knaves like you and I doing what they’re told to some degree or another.
Globalization naturally dumbs even the top tier down. When everyone knows everyone’s business, nobody knows anything. We are headed to that state of affairs, very close to it, in fact “Approaching asymptotic orbit, Captain.”
The sudden briskness of the wind that will strip away the emperor’s Officially Not Nekkid Suit will take our breath away, some temporarily, some for the duration. Sort of a domino effect.
No, I don’t know why I feel compelled to make the too-dumb-to-know-better argument, but it seems like such an under-appreciated aspect of human affairs large and small, group and singular.
Let me illustrate:
January 23, 2021 at 1:31 am #68737WESParticipantMadamski:
I have to admire your ability to write using the flowerly words of the English language like Shakespeare did!
SadlyI have never mastered the art of writing very well. English was my very worst subject in grade school. Being hard of hearing probably did’t help much either. I nearly failed a few grades on account of my writing except my Father (phd eng) twisted each teacher’s thumbs down, up!
My Father’s words of encouragement were always this: “You will make a good engineer”! (Father-mining, Brother-mechanical, me-electrical)
Naturally I always did poorly (bombed!) when asked to write about vague intangible things like the meanings of Hamlet. It was pure uncentured torture for me! Likely, you enjoyed and excelled at this kind of writing!
One of my traits, is that I can’t understand complicated things, until I disassemble it, piece by piece, into it’s
smallest bit, so I can begin to understand how every little piece works, before reassembling it back into its complicated whole. Like computers are just a bunch of zeros and ones.I used this trait to write technical machinery and robot manuals in my second career. I noticed those who could write well ,also didn’t wanted to write manuals! Since these manuals then had to be translated into many foreign languages, I learned to be short and to the point and use drawings/photos (worth a 1,000 words someone told me) to keep translation costs down. (The opposite of Shakespeare!)
About all I have really mastered about writing, is over coming my early fears about writing at all. (Just like I over came my fear of heights in my first career building large mining equipment!)
I think God is still punishing me for not being able to write well by making me keep writing until I master the art of writing or die trying! I am betting mercifully, death will come first!
Now one of my biggest problems writing is my rapidly declining eye sight.
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