Debt Rattle July 20 2025
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July 20, 2025 at 9:43 am #192378
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterSaul Leiter Man with flowers, NY 1950s • Obama Admin Engineered The Russia Hoax To Undermine Trump (Margolis) • China’s Economic Demise And Its
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 20 2025]July 20, 2025 at 10:01 am #192379Topcat
ParticipantWho’s Who
Global GDP
July 20, 2025 at 10:05 am #192380Topcat
ParticipantNotice The USSA and Canada added together equal Russia
Another reason the USSA will absord Canada as it’s 51st state, officially or by de-facto skullduggery.
July 20, 2025 at 10:09 am #192381Topcat
ParticipantAlso notice the country on the southern USSA border, Mexico, does not show up in the Natural resources chart because it has so little to contribute outside of Drug Cartels and Fentanyl and a little oil.
July 20, 2025 at 10:15 am #192382Dr D Rich
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“Epstein Enigma
Here we go!
The dissolution of reality and Kunstler, one of (((their))) own at the forefront.Kunstler….damn
July 20, 2025 at 10:16 am #192383Topcat
ParticipantCanada is the Real Resource Piñata
Pass the maple syrup…..
Canadian Piñata
July 20, 2025 at 10:23 am #192384Topcat
Participant“President Donald Trump has claimed that BRICS is “fading out fast,” while warning that any attempts by the group to challenge the US dollar will be met with a harsh economic backlash. …..”
As usual Only LIES spill out of Trumptards pie hole.
Always lies, he has nothing else.
BRICS doesn’t want to create a new reserve currency, it just wants to BYPASS the current one!
July 20, 2025 at 10:43 am #192385Topcat
ParticipantJuly 20, 2025 at 10:45 am #192386Topcat
ParticipantJuly 20, 2025 at 11:03 am #192387Topcat
ParticipantAccountability
Your mileage may vary
This is who Obama should have as a cellmate after his conviction for treason…..
July 20, 2025 at 11:15 am #192388Red
ParticipantGDP? The most unreliable metric possible. Remove any and all government transactions from this metric and you will get closer to the real health of your economic situation. If there is .gov on either side of the transaction it is a negative not a positive on the economic well being of the area in question. GDP just counts the monetary transactions regardless of what they are for or where they are coming from. Government monies are just taxes from current collections or some imaginary taxes coming in the future. Governments create nothing but waste heat. The bigger the .gov the more waste heat produced. I love it when .gov tell me how they pay taxes too! No you don’t you, give some back after you clawed out yours.
July 20, 2025 at 11:25 am #192389Topcat
ParticipantSo what do you think of Purchasing Price Parity as a measurement?
July 20, 2025 at 11:26 am #192390those darned kids
Participant“I knew Tulsi Gabbard would be the most effective Cabinet member.”
YEP! the babies have stopped dying, all of the epstein rapesquad are finally in the slammer, and the mossad no longer runs america!
tulsi is the one!
July 20, 2025 at 11:30 am #192391those darned kids
Participant@POTUS: “I also remain fully committed to my pledge never to allow the creation of a Central Bank Digital Currency in America. It won’t happen.”
uh, oh.
so, when the cbdc comes it won’t be created in america.
so, ¡¿where, mr chrump, will it come from!?
because it is coming.
July 20, 2025 at 11:33 am #192392EoinW
ParticipantTime to protect the people who ran the Epstein pedophile ring. Distract attention away from Israel. You think threatening to arrest Obama won’t get everyone’s attention?
Nice to see the American Oligarchic infighting. It is a more humane distraction than starting a hot war with Russia.
July 20, 2025 at 11:39 am #192393those darned kids
Participant<jerkquote>”Also notice the country on the southern USSA border, Mexico, does not show up in the Natural resources chart because it has so little to contribute outside of Drug Cartels and Fentanyl and a little oil.</jerkquote>
Commodity Global Rank Key Details
Oil 11th–12th Declining output since 2010s peak
Gold 9th–10th 41% production surge (2010)
Silver 1st 20% of global supply; historic mining regions
Vegetables Top 5 #1 avocado exporter; major U.S. supplier
Coffee 9th Mild Arabica beans from southern states
Copper 8th Reserves rank 5th globally; production tripled
Zinc 6th 720K tons/year; key mines in north-central Mexico
July 20, 2025 at 11:42 am #192394those darned kids
Participantinsult me with lies, and i’ll insult you with truths.. ~ tdk, ‘proverbs, axioms and nonsense, pg. 222’
July 20, 2025 at 11:44 am #192395Dr. D
ParticipantEverything that government has put its fingers in has exploded in cost.

“Tulsi is a MACHINE “Well, it’s about time somebody did SOMETHING.
I tell you though, this is so serious and so large the Republic could fall.
…Which is saying something, because that this has already happened means the Republic already fell, or nearly. What are we risking when that’s the case? But like markets going from stupid to honest value, everyone hates reality falling on them. They’re more mad at Truth than lies, always.
““This particular real estate bubble, which is unprecedented in magnitude, is bursting. This creates deflationary pressures and undermines the value of collateral supporting large portions of China’s shadow banking system.”
• China’s Economic Demise And Its Impact On The US (Lance Roberts)It is extremely hard to calculate when there are no markets and no laws there. China can “Just do stuff”, anything they want. Now history shows events have a way of overtaking everyone, the market remains larger, more complicated than any planners, but that doesn’t help much.
Forex Chart, two things:
ALL the Euro appears to be oil contracts with Russia. So that currency doesn’t exist either, and Europe self-nuked it. No oil = no Euro. This makes sense, they were emulating a petro-dollar, network effect, etc, but too bad.
Second, all these are traded and set in LONDON. That means London is taking a vig off the planet in several leaks. That trading, 3% like a credit card transaction, but also things like insider knowledge and trading flows, etc. Great. AND?
…And XRP/Ripple erases this completely. That’s why it was set up and why stalled in Biden’s admin. That’s why it was fought and who fought it. That’s why it’s a Centralized bank-ledger and not really a crypto at all. None of that matters. It’s being installed and used widely already. At transactions costs of near-zero, so 0,003% instead of 3%. London Bye Bye. Which is why they’re fighting it and starting world wars. They lost.
As they are different, this won’t show in Forex charts. Just as the US$ is “falling” – to what? Are you crazy? – the Euro and Yen are worse than we are! Yeah, and falling to Gold at $3,300 and BTC at a mind-mending $119,000? ETH doubles, 25% today to near $4,000? The Dollar IS dropping. But we needed that not to collapse the world, all banking systems, and all trade. Now it won’t. That bill was just signed, but better or worse, but let’s just call it “Less Bad”, as usual.
“Brussels has nothing. • Trump Toughens Stance In EU Trade Talks – FT (RT)What they had, was bribing, owning our politicians. And hand-placing our Intel Agencies, the real government. Interrupt that, and they have nothing. That’s the real Coup. The counter-revolution. We tried this several times, incl under Nixon and Reagan and were pushed back. You win if you don’t stop fighting. We can’t be occupied forever, we live here.
“• Trump’s Ultimatum To Russia Is Bluster and Bluff (SCF)
What’s behind Trump’s angry ultimatum to Russia this week? The short answer: failure and frustration.Always his internal, emotional state. This has become a “tell” at this point. They always gravitate to the Feelz like a heat-seeking missile, tossing aside all reason and evidence. O Rlly? How has that interpretation of his actions served you over the last 10 years? Predictive? Or not so much?
“.related to the late financier’s alleged “client list,” which the administration says does not exist…”
I mean, technically, probably not. But in the same way no one sneaks into the office with a skeleton key, unscrews your Stromberg 500 handset and puts in a “Bug”. For the love of Christ. We all know this, don’t play stupid. They mean, “People who we can be reasonably certain were involved in illegal sex acts” which is child’s play to ascertain. No, he probably did not keep a ledger, “Prince Andrew, 7/24, 10:45am, two massages, $1999/pc.”
Eric Weinstein / Physicist thing makes totally sense. Pay attention. There is no other reason to involve, ask, pay, work this line. Only one: To stop real Science from being done. Derail it in BS “Tiny Rocks” materialism, Quantum, and GUT. Failed, dead end for 75 years. Why? To prevent the re-discovery of the “UFO Physics” as we might call it, the REAL physics different hidden groups have stashed away. Evil?
Well, you tell me: if we had Zero-point-energy what would happen? Entire worldwide economy would collapse overnight in the transition. So, #Winning? We’d burn the earth using free energy that still has heat-waste. We already are too consuming of all resources, cutting trees, etc, to turbo that.
On the other side, suppose every Cleetus had a UFO-car he could zip in, drop a watermelon on the Queen, or Trump’s head, then zip away, unstoppable? Sound good? No transition troubles there? People don’t need to be morally advanced to match their new technological powers? Uh, no. See the problems? Now I think it’s bulls–t obviously, but you can’t not start addressing these things. I also think they are the LEAST morally advanced, when these Mil/Def breakaway groups think they’re the most advanced. If you’re the most advanced, why are you lying every day? Taking our money while we starve?
But yes, there is no other explanation, and put that way, the reason they MUST do this, somewhere, is obvious. It’s odd it was in the Epstein umbrella, but had to be somewhere.“War number 1
It’s Europe v. Russia, of course. Not proxy anymore: hot ‘n nasty, direct.”No it’s not, Pepe. It hasn’t changed really at all. If Poland mobilized and officially entered, or Romania, this would be the line.
“European nations have discussed plans to send their soldiers to Ukraine if a ceasefire with Russia is reached.”Uh, yeah, they’ve said so from Day One. No change. Newsflash: There Is No Ceasefire. Never will be. There’s no Peace to keep. Never will be. Any agent that crosses into Lviv is a target. Always has been. Russia ‘nuked’ the NATO base by Lviv almost first day, remember Gonzalo Lira. Collapsed their 300foot deep nuclear bunker and NATO training center. NATO did nothing, not even admit it.
So “Not to fear, Russia will never respond to ATACMs, to Nukes in Moscow?” Oh really? And Russia blows up hundreds of NATO generals and not a peep. General Austin.
“NATO Must be Ready To Fight China”Uhhh….do any of you know what a “Map” is? Russia was never even bordering NATO, YOU did that, marching 1,000mi to the East. China is so far away it might be on Mars. So…you’re saying Romania is going to mobilize and take out Guangzhou? Yeah, sure they will.
Oh you mean THE UNITED STATES is going to do it all alone and collapse themselves for you, as England has fewer soldiers than Girl Scouts, and no ships. Yeah: no.
And in the picture he’s doing the Heil? Oh wait, that’s only the salute when YOU do it. When I do the same thing, it’s not a salute at all, it’s Love.
“The unthinkable has become the banal.”
This was how easy it was to fix all along. Like we said. About that “Giant Sucking Sound”. About ‘08 bailout. About enforcing the – any – laws. Now about financing via tariffs. Boom, done, no inflation, no disruption, budget’s working fine, bye.
“We were living in an “emperor has no clothes” make-believe world for the last few years. The people knew establishment narratives were absurd, and our supposed experts were even more ridiculous. But few—until now—had the guts to scream “the emperor is naked” to dispel the fantasies. When they finally did, reality returned.”
Socialists always use violence. Without raw violence to attack, kill, remove all jobs from all normals, reality reasserts itself. And with it, prosperity. And reason. And merit. Not from some special magic, but because it’s the default setting and it works. Without raw, murdering violence, you can’t “transfer” assets from the productive and working, TO the unproductive, corrupt, and insane. And of course criminals don’t like that.
But of course we do.
“Trump has been the exact same person for 40 years.”Yes, he has Bill Clinton’s Political platform.
Yellowstone: I don’t see how this could ever possibly happen. There is no volcano, because there is no over-mass of weight to cap one. Pressures can’t build up because they’re released hourly. Maybe I’m wrong here, but that’s my sense, and this is just talk of laymen, the public only. Why? Maybe Russia and China have said they’ll use their Turkish Earthquake machines on it if we f– with them. But it’s not organic.
Meanwhile, there are REAL risks extremely likely with offshore tsunamis from NoCal to Anchorage from underwater volcanoes, AND it’s a given that the next real volcano to go off is in the Cascades, where many, many live and move. So why add Yellowstone? That’s a least-likely case when you could push the same fear where it’s rational to do so.
Topcat, Mexico: No way, Mexico is a major gold/metals producer, tops, AND was a top oil producer, AND could easily be a top Ag producer. This is like a “We’re running out of” thing, where there “Are no mines” there but only bc no one will bother staking them bc of politics. The ore is there, and easy.
Us too, btw. We have like infinity Rare Earths, copper, etc.
July 20, 2025 at 12:11 pm #192396Red
ParticipantPPP is not a good indicator of actual economic stability either. It adjusts according to what some product costs here compared to there in local monies. The US is the same on both sides of the ledger due to the reserve currency status. The economists use it to level the field when comparing the costs of a particular product across international borders. As near as I can figure everything in economics as displayed on markets and in financial circles is fantasy. It’s all based on the illusion of perpetual growth in a finite space backed up by fiat! Thinking that that is somehow possible in reality is delusional at best. To base all of the future on this? All…………. of everyone’s future.
July 20, 2025 at 12:48 pm #192398those darned kids
Participanti propose we gage economic vitality with the HTHR,
that is,
the
Homeless to Housed Ratio.
with this metric, one can say that méxico, for ejemplo, is a far richer country than say of canada, which has for more homeless people.
July 20, 2025 at 12:58 pm #192399Red
Participant“The chaos we observe is acute because it is the simultaneous occurrence in the west of an over-accumulation of fictitious capital crisis, an energetic degradation crisis and a cultural crisis that can no longer rationalise the detachment of financial wealth from meaningful existence. One now wonders whether a terminal phase has arrived.”
July 20, 2025 at 1:17 pm #192400Topcat
Participant“Socialists always use violence…”
NYC
July 20, 2025 at 1:26 pm #192401Red
ParticipantTDK re HTHR
A good start.July 20, 2025 at 1:27 pm #192402Topcat
ParticipantNatural Resources
Mexico vs Russia
Who realistically is in a position to develop their natural resources?
Mexican resources exist but the political and business climate to develop them vs say Russia’s is insignificant to the point of non-existence.
Get Real
Mexico is a Piñata
Not a Player
July 20, 2025 at 1:38 pm #192403Noirette
ParticipantIn the USA the same contrived narrative ploy is used over and over again.
Propaganda, often very targetted, vicious, alarming, mostly extravagant fakery is bruited. After some years pass, to round eyes cough cough admitting OOPSies that wasn’t quite right, well mistakes are made, etc. etc. Who cares, really? The news cycle churns on…
Today, Tulsi: Russia-Gate was a hoax, a total fake created by Killary taken up by Obiman. Anyone paying attention knew it was nonsense. But US TV watchers embraced it…
Other ex. Saddam Hussein had WMD and was a threat to the USA. Err now maybe ‘not so much’ or whatever.
COV19 vax were safe and effective.
USA. Senate Hearing on COVID-19 Vaccines. May 2025.
Haven’t listened to all of this, but at first glance it seems damning, where is the MSM? What changes will be made in function of ‘new’ information? Of course this concerns ppl living in the USA, so it can be put in the back burner.
July 20, 2025 at 1:43 pm #192404Topcat
ParticipantPPP
A far more accurate gauge than the ass-wipe has-been GDP
July 20, 2025 at 1:49 pm #192405Dr D Rich
ParticipantThe Automatic Earth’s website’s server doesn’t like posts containing the following words:
1. Backbone
2. William Luther PhD
3. Saint Vincent’s
4. Monero NSA
5. WannaMine NSA
6. WannaCry NSA
7. CrowdstrikeJuly 20, 2025 at 1:50 pm #192406zerosum
ParticipantEVERYWHERE – Entertainment NEWS to divert/confuse you.
Tulsi Gabbard is Doubling Down on what she released AGAIN today. She’s determined to make sure Obama is held accountable
• Trump Issues New Threat To BRICS (RT)
• China’s Economic Demise And Its Impact On The US (Lance Roberts)
• Obama Admin Engineered The Russia Hoax To Undermine Trump (Margolis)
• The Epstein Enigma (James Howard Kunstler)
So, yesterday, the president ordered AG Bondi to release the grand jury testimony that has been under seal for years and years, and she has promised to do that today, Friday, July 18, subject to the court approval.
Epstein served as a middleman between politicians, the weapons industry, the big research universities (all those grants!), and linked intel services such as CIA, Mossad, and MI6.
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• The World Woke Up (Victor Davis Hanson)We were living in an “emperor has no clothes” make-believe world for the last few years.
The people knew establishment narratives were absurd, and our supposed experts were even more ridiculous.
But few—until now—had the guts to scream “the emperor is naked” to dispel the fantasies.
When they finally did, reality returned.
————-• Red, White, and Bitcoin (Beirne)
The first coin clanked into existence in 600 B.C., it was not merely a gold and silver alloy stamped with the face of the Lydian king.
It was a financial revolution.
For the first time, people could move past the inefficiencies of barter and instead use a medium of exchange to trade.———–
July 20, 2025 at 1:50 pm #192407Topcat
Participant2024
July 20, 2025 at 2:02 pm #192408charles
ParticipantWe know they know we know they know. Those games continue. Follow the thread through Kunstler. If there was that kind of network, There is a lot more than sex slaves. What else could it be? How bad could it be that sex slaves is a fillip. Live child harvesting? Anything worse than that? If there is, that too. Bio warfare? If all that was in Ukraine. You would fight to the last Ukrainian. And Putin has all the receipts.
Statins. We have discussed here. Each shared our experience. I wish to repeat my conclusions. The adverse effects are not all the direct result of statins. My doctor and I proved by sequentially dosing me with every available statin starting with a low dose and moving up to a dose where symptoms appear. Then subtracting the predominant adverse effects, that there were adverse effects with common to every statin that are not known to every statin. Our conclusion is that some symptoms, most notable is dementia, that are a result of low cholesterol in general. The guidelines are dangerously low. Maybe even to the extent of murderously conspiratorial.
July 20, 2025 at 2:10 pm #192409charles
ParticipantI had not watched the video on statin. I just did. Criminal. And not the statins. The guidelines. Poisoning the public. Bigger than sex slaves?
July 20, 2025 at 2:20 pm #192410D Benton Smith
ParticipantI think it’s very premature to conclude that the Obama Gang is going to prison any time soon, or that it will even lead to indictments. At this stage the bonfire that Donald and Tulsi are trying to light is just a pile of damp kindling and a sputtering match. Just another squall, not a sea change. A tattered flag run up a flagpole to see if anyone salutes. A Gambit, a ploy a play (there are so many metaphors that fit the situation that a line-item list might be the best way to roll ’em all out.)
Here’s the deal. Even if Obama was the Coupster-In-Chief he was mere middle management. A hireling. Just like Trump. I do hope that everyone on this forum is aware that Empires are not run by Emperors.
If this latest attempted distraction has legs then we’ll see it in the news. Until then (and don’t hold your breath) just keep your powder dry.
The real fight is just getting started.
July 20, 2025 at 2:25 pm #192411those darned kids
Participantanyhoo, no sense arguing with a bigot stuck in 1972.
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your enemies stopped believing in countries a long, long time ago.
your enemies created countries in order to manipulate you.
your enemies are now dissolving countries in order to manipulate you.
your enemies, live, have lived, and will always live amongst you, not in a faraway land.
your enemies live, have lived, and will always live in the silver towers in your cities, watching down on you with contempt.
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if you fight your enemies within the paradigm that they have constructed for you, you will lose.
July 20, 2025 at 3:27 pm #192412D Benton Smith
ParticipantAll of these diabolically clever and complicated mechanism, devices and systems that our “Masters:” are enforcing upon everyone have something in common. They all have the same Achilles Heel.
They work astoundingly well (for example computers, and AI and autonomous jet fighter aircraft and drones, etc.) when all of their incredibly complex and complicated bits and pieces are brought together as a single coordinated smooth running system. But they do not work at all and are as useless as tits on a board when any of their essential pieces are missing, broken, or not available in the right place at the right time for the right operators.
This is not a new idea. It’s just a crucially IMPORTANT idea that keeps getting forgotten by people when they’re scared to death by the threat of annihilation. That’s why creeps like Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, Bill Gates and suck-my-peter Thiel are so intent upon herding everyone into a system in which everything is run by their computers. Their system has two settings: perfect control and utter chaos.
When organization is your enemy, chaos can be your friend
July 20, 2025 at 3:32 pm #192413D Benton Smith
ParticipantWars don’t work by killing. The threat of death is merely the motivating factor. Wars work by disrupting the organization of the opponent.
July 20, 2025 at 3:42 pm #192414D Benton Smith
ParticipantMaybe the Luddites were right all along, just a bit too late in coming to the realization that they themselves were suckers who had been persuaded by selfish greed to build and empower the mechanized industrial system that then ate them as remorselessly as they had eaten their more “primitive” predecessors.
July 20, 2025 at 3:47 pm #192415Topcat
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July 20, 2025 at 4:33 pm #192416those darned kids
Participantgo luddites!
July 20, 2025 at 4:40 pm #192417Dora
Participant@ Dr. D
The affordability chart can be looked at in another way. The more affordable lines are of things made off shore by very cheap labor. In a way that’s a product of the Govt changing the corporate US tax rules to make US companies offshoring production a tax advantaged decision instead of a tax liability, as it once was.
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