June 17, 2022 at 5:51 pm #109887Susmarie108Participant
The Albrecht Dürer Praying hands 1508 is a beautiful pen-and-ink drawing. Like V. Arnold, I found myself looking at my own hands – and admiring the precision of his work even more. I love the background as much as the hands, a very different form of contrast.
When hands are joined in this manner and thumbs are placed at the Heart one may hear the words Namaste. This gesture is used in YOGA traditions as a sign of respect reverence. Bringing our hands together at the heart chakra increases the flow of divine love, kindness, and compassion. Bowing the heads and closing the eyes helps us surrender to the divine within.
Dr. D’s commentary works well with today’s art don’t you think?
LOVE to All.June 17, 2022 at 5:59 pm #109888NoiretteParticipant
Formerly T wrote: Laws? There are no laws in economics, just bad math.
First ‘Law’ of Economics: Bad math (math skills – logic) results (=) in bad answers. Take it from there.
Economics, as a Science, is none such. It is fakey pretend underpinnings for shaping opinion and behavior, it is basically *prescriptive,* and not descripitive or interpretative in any way.
It should belong to Social Anthropology, and take off from observing what happens on the ground (in different conditions, places, and so on.)
References to ‘Math’ – formulaics, extrapolations, shoddy ‘generalities’, BS equations – are called on to provide a veneer of ‘seriousness’, in short, Scientism (in the perjorative sense) of the worst kind. The ‘Math’ is also put forward so as to confuse ppl who may then believe this is an ‘expert’ field, as the gobbledy-gook cannot be comprehended. Finally, it provides comfortable life-long jobs for some servants to BigCorps, oligarchs, and other profiteers.June 17, 2022 at 6:22 pm #109890
Namaste’, Sister Susan.June 17, 2022 at 7:49 pm #109891citizenxParticipant
Gold spoke in Statuary Hall about her opposition to vaccine mandates and government lockdowns, the DOJ’s Statement of Offense claims. She was arrested by FBI agents
You were just mentioning Mueller’s FBI as the Lefts Hero. FBI has become the SS of the Western Liberal Scum Deaths Heads…
SS, abbreviation of Schutzstaffel (German: “Protective Echelon”), the self-described “political soldiers” of the Nazi Party. From the beginning of the regime, Democrats (Hitler) entrusted the FBI (SS) first and foremost with the removal and eventual murder of political and so-called racial enemies of the regime.
And Assange? The rotting Queen and child raping Prince of England’s Regime are only interested in tea and covering up their personal Crimes… Boris the clown, another murdering liar just like their Royal Scum heroines…
So the Elite Scum of the west are insistent on not releasing Assange and continuously torturing him til death. By all means extradite him to Amurikas regime to “stand trial”. Let the World see the show trial and absolute Hypocrisy of the USSA Regime Scum.
Let the Land of the Free and Home of the brave govt filth display their vapid ethics and complete disregard for Law, Order, Human Rights, Freedom, Courage and Free Speech.
Let’s get the Party started… The world will be a much better place after de-nazifying, de-militarizing, de-NATOing the USSA.
No Justice, No Peace right Libtards? Know Justice, Know Peace , America has neither.June 17, 2022 at 8:12 pm #109892DarkMatterParticipant
“May she out live her children, and theirs as well.”
The curse upon Cersi Lannister. Maybe a little walk of shame would be approrpiate too.June 17, 2022 at 8:15 pm #109893
Noirette at 109888
Thank you for the reply about First Law of Economics.
I do find disagreement with you about Economics being a science, it definitely is, but the current form it takes puts that assertion into question. The solution is the current conception of Economics is invalid. You may search for roots and find vague traces occurring mainly in the Austrian School appearing post WW i, and a few interpretations of early French Economic philosophic studies (know also to Adam Smith) but no coherent presentation until the Chicago School, vintage WW II and later. This conception is known these days as MBA (Master of Business Administration) Econ 101 and is the universally taught and accepted version of Economics, its ultimate form is that of an ideologic black hole; once captured by its ‘gravity’ not even light can escape its influence. Several notable Economists have analysed its structure and have attempted escape velocity but still find themselves orbiting MBA Econ 101. Steve Keen is working on mathematical models more likely to function than those of Econ 101 but that only removes a few contradictions inherent in the prevailing economic ideology.
TINA (There Is No Alternative) dominates what passes as Economics and will for the foreseeable future. At this time Economic history has been eviscerated as a study, little value is assigned its utility. Most all historical Economic development has been discarded. Michael Hudson is another whose analytic knife cuts deeply into Econ 101 inconsistencies but again posits no alternative. A large part of the problem of finding an alternative to Econ 101 can be put at the door of economic language itself. Unlike any other science, economics has not defined specifically its terms which escape into fungibility. Sociology is scientifically sound because of defined terms in the same way physics is defined by mathematic formula. Only economics has a seat at the Queen of Hearts tea table, things meaning just and only what the speaker meant.
So completely does MBA Econ 101 dominate the thinking about economics that its influence will be overcome once the economic catechism passes from living memory. When that will be is unpredictable, chance can always find a way to emerge, just the way Newton emerged from Ptolemaic perception and Einstein from Newtonian. That emergence will not happen under current conditions.
I trust the above will give some picture of the unease with the statement Economics id not a science and why. It is important to keep searching, questioning and exploring what is being produced, but also what has been produced and giving ear to new ideas in economics. After all, “The Wealth of Nations“ is only about 250 years old that marks the birth of economic study. Most other sciences have more ancient roots.June 17, 2022 at 11:23 pm #109894
Across millennia technology & science (math, economics, computers, weapons of war et al.), always has an override backdoor, where “The Owners” can intervene & instruct “The Anointed” to fix the game to support “The Narrative”.
These kleptocrat systems of manipulation always have a shelf life, some shorter than others…
Firebombing either type of clinic is not not appropriate.
Yeah, something like assault, battery, murder & arson aren’t really “appropriate” actions of sane humans, is it? 🙄June 17, 2022 at 11:32 pm #109895
John, not sure how that happened, perhaps divine intervention? 😉June 18, 2022 at 1:07 am #109896Michael ReidParticipant
The old world is over: Key takeaways from Putin’s first major speech since Russia’s military offensive in Ukraine
Russian leader has buried the old world order and outlined his view on Russia’s and the world’s future, in a key address
New centers of power have emerged, the unipolar world order isn’t coming back, and the “colonial” way of thinking has failed, Russian President Vladimir Putin told the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) on Friday, in what the Kremlin described as an “extremely important” speech.
”June 18, 2022 at 1:23 am #109897V. ArnoldParticipant
Thanks for that link; very informative…and spot on, IMO…June 18, 2022 at 1:23 am #109898June 18, 2022 at 1:24 am #109899
Got Heat?June 18, 2022 at 1:25 am #109900
Got Food?June 18, 2022 at 1:38 am #109901
@VP Gary: (“Woke” county sic?) was a feeble attempt at humor, punning, the lowest form of humor, while feigning ignorance regarding the story about non-service of 30 conservative moms in Wake County.June 18, 2022 at 1:41 am #109902
@Michael Reid: Thanks, i’m looking for the best story about that speech by Putin. Pepe Escobar might write it up. He’s there on site.June 18, 2022 at 2:02 am #109903choochParticipant
Thanks for the commentary today.June 18, 2022 at 2:23 am #109904V. ArnoldParticipant
Thanks for the commentary today.
May I second chooch’s post; thanks T-Bear for sharing your knowledge of economics…June 18, 2022 at 2:50 am #109905
Interesting take here; not without research.
Russia Believes False Flag Will Lead to US Entry
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-06-16/unlocked-russias-trenin-believes-false-flag-will-lead-us-entryJune 18, 2022 at 2:51 am #109906
Formerly T-bear did not say: “Economics is the discipline where the majority is always wrong”.June 18, 2022 at 7:11 am #109907
John Day at 109906
The German language has a word – ersatz – that may describe the zeitgeist (another German word) of the day. Ersatz News. Ersatz government. Ersatz education. Ersatz economy. Ersatz medicine/Ersatz vaccinations. Ersatz living. Ersatz beliefs. And so on. There is no right or wrong involved – it’s ersatz, maybe a dream, maybe a nightmare, all depends on the measure at hand. Economics has become a thought collective, a Hollywood “Borg”, self generating, self confirming ersatz. That is all.June 18, 2022 at 7:54 am #109908
Here’s another “feeble attempt at humor” ~ Youtube protecting sheeple from any information about the Party of Chaos’ theft of the 2020 election:
YouTube removes video from Jan 6 panel including Trump’s election misinformation…
YouTube confirmed on Friday that it had removed a video uploaded by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot for violating the platform’s election integrity policy.
“Our election integrity policy prohibits content advancing false claims that widespread fraud, errors or glitches changed the outcome of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, if it does not provide sufficient context. We enforce our policies equally for everyone, and have removed the video uploaded by the January 6th Committee channel,” Ivy Choi, a YouTube spokesperson, said in a statement.
Yep, like they used to say down in the South, a real knee slapper…June 18, 2022 at 8:00 am #109909June 18, 2022 at 7:07 pm #109950NoiretteParticipant
Formerly T, thanks for your response, I take it on board, good arguments, I just loathe some of the BS. Nevertheless, Economics, imho, belongs to Social Science, and not precise (such as it is..much of it odd and off key as well) Science which studies the natural world, e.g. astronomy, geology, physics.
Economic interactions, as we see them, are between humans and the exploitable, useful, environment (earth and all its riches, Fossil Fuels, animals, husbandry, vegetation, agri, fresh water, seas, etc.), and so they are very much regulated, run, by humans. They are the main drivers. Which I’m sure you will agree with 🙂June 18, 2022 at 8:42 pm #109955
Noirette at 109950
Economics can be modelled as two cycles that feed each other. The production cycle that provides the economic goods that feed the consumption cycle which in turn provides the economic actors that populate the production cycle. That is the economic model at its stark simplicity.
- Economic production
has four sources of
- economic goods
, they are:
- economic goods
that satisfy economic consumption. This handful of underlined words, properly defined describe the greater part of a model of how economics works. In all there are about 21 defined words to complete the model but you can see the basic structure with just these few terms. It shows the mass of BS that goes on in official economic education. The source was a class taken fifty some years ago in Economic History with visiting lecturer whose name is lost for concept credit,
I have used underline to mark economic carefully defined words, I don’t have preview to see result.June 18, 2022 at 8:45 pm #109957
What a fouled up piece of trash that turned out to be. Sorry I wasted my timeJune 18, 2022 at 9:05 pm #109959
Noirette at 109950
Economics can be modelled as two cycles that feed each other. The production cycle that provides the economic goods that feed the consumption cycle which in turn provides the economic actors that populate the production cycle. That is the economic model at its stark simplicity. Economic production has four sources of economic goods, they are: Land, Labour, Capital and Entrepreneurship.that provide economic goods filling economic: Needs, Wants and Desires that satisfy economic consumption. This handful of underlined words, properly defined describe the greater part of a model of how economics works. In all there are about 21 defined words to complete the model but you can see the basic structure with just these few terms. It shows the mass of BS that goes on in official economic education. The source was a class taken fifty some years ago in Economic History with visiting lecturer whose name is lost for concept credit,
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