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    Winslow Homer Camping in the Adirondacks (Wood engraving) 1874   • China Warns US Against Opening Mideast ‘Pandora’s Box’ (CNA) • UN Officials: U
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    #48027
    V. Arnold
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    USA Bombing List: The Democracy World Tour
    Interesting; it doesn’t include Thailand circa the 70’s.
    That was during the communist insurgency here, which ended in the mountains of Phetchabun.
    The U.S. was actively involved in the communists’ defeat.
    There is a museum with many exhibits along with a history lesson that few, even here, remember…all’s the pity…
    History lost is ignorance gained…

    #48028
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “1,000 additional troops”

    Hilarious. 100,000 more people wouldn’t take Iran. 1,000 is target practice. Since THEY know that (although apparently reporters and the public don’t) what ARE they up to?

    Anyone remember “Thirteen Days”? “This is not a blockade. This is language. A new vocabulary, the likes of which the world has never seen! This is President Kennedy COMMUNICATING with Secretary Khrushchev!” So if you offer Iran new target practice, what are they saying? Because the reporter doesn’t get it, he doesn’t even suppose that they ARE talking.

    Is it here? “UN Officials: US Planning a ‘Tactical Assault’ in Iran (JPost)”

    Hypothesis: Just like us, Iran has a “Deep State” that the civilian government is not in control of. That’s who Obama gave the 3 planeloads of printed money to, not “Iran”, a term so large it’s meaningless. WHO in “Iran”? The President? The Oligarchs? The cab drivers? No, it was given to the MILITARY of Iran. And not the Army dog-faces, but a SPECIFIC PART of the military. That is who Trump is talking to right now, and why he wants to scare the pants off them by hiring maniacs like Bolton and Pompeo.

    Furthermore, Rouhani can’t say, “Oh sure, I give up, I’m not in control of my own nation, go ahead and bomb our version of the CIA/Black Ops Mr. Trump.” No. He obviously has to defend Iran and try to instead get control over this power block. If he doesn’t, Trump doing it for him will discredit him among insiders. Nevertheless, using diplo-speak, they are each going to understand what the other is doing, and the other guy’s motivations and problems. Rouhani is not going to trust the U.S. not to invade, to go too far, with good reason, and more importantly, he IS going to capitalize on the U.S. for power and popularity by RESISTING the U.S. at home, and forging alliances due to the U.S. with Turkey, Russia, China, etc. …Even though they ALSO know what’s going on. And maybe the reporters do too.

    But the takeaway would then be: EVERYBODY’S LYING. If someone, please someone, would just take a step closer to the truth and what’s really going on, we citizens could understand what’s happening far clearer and make better, more informed decisions about it. But they won’t, because then they would lose their edge in negotiations, and control over keeping us more ignorant than any medieval peasant, while we pretend we all know what’s going on by reading the constantly discreditec NYT, where nothing makes any sense, everybody is just stupid, our team is the best, and they should do it my way even though I know the absolute LEAST of anyone, not being inside the classified documents and diplomatic cables.

    Think about it. Because the Official Story, what they’re trying to claim is real, doesn’t make any sense at all. …And like always, that means it isn’t true. …But you knew that, because an adult wrote it and a paper published it, so you know it’s a lie.

    Anyway, what is the (one faction of the) U.S. saying in the JPost? “Knock it off and put these guys on a leash or we’ll do a surgical strike on their H.Q., see if we won’t.”

    What is Rouhani saying when he says they’re going to breach the Uranium limit? “Gosh boys, looks like the Iranian (non-)agreement is already de-facto shot to pieces. If you don’t cough up your billions in payoffs (seen before with Iran publicizing pan-European bribes), or get us a solution to Pompeo’s pressure, we’re going to have to end that deal officially as well. So make your move!”

    And so on. Now I can’t prove any of that, but I CAN prove that the OFFICIAL story is complete, unmitigated rubbish that doesn’t make any logical sense. This does. Make up your own story if you wish, because the State Departments and reporters sure won’t.

    “We know what will be done to Assange.”

    You don’t know jack. I don’t know why everyone is universally defeatist. They love to give up and lose. Meanwhile, Judicial Watch is plowing through the government records like a paper whirlwind, revealing everything and opening the way for other, more civil lawsuits. But don’t join them! Don’t civilly sue Monsanto and shut them off. Don’t Civilly sue Oberlin and make them be responsible again! Nope, abandon the city to the enemy like this guy:

    Bail

    The case the U.S. brought against Assange goes far too far and is very difficult to win. …And that’s just on the LEGAL side, to say nothing of the Freedom of Speech argument. This may or may not be intentional, as Assange is ALSO the only guy who can free Trump – which is why Trump is a) trying to kill him, or b) trying to get him to provide legal testimony under oath – but in any case, they got about as much proof on Assange as the Mueller report. That is to say, an empty bag. Manning had no idea who he talked to. Assange did NOT provide any help cracking/hacking anything. So therefore, you would WIN the case in five days, not lose it, all else being equal.

    But you know our new motto, “We will surrender on the beaches, we will surrender in the air, and we will always, always surrender and run away like little girls.” ‘Cause you know, it takes work and stuff.

    “Did the US overplay its hand?”

    Yes. But was it also intentional? All you have to do is hire the most biased prosecutors you can find and tell them to run far and fast. You totally believe in them! Then they overshoot and collapse, and you say “Aw. So sad. Oopsie!”

    “contracts out with a foreign individual,”

    If only it WERE an individual. It was MI6, who then paid Russians like Skripal to use his contacts in the Kremlin. So they were literally paying multiple foreign spy agencies to interfere. MI6, FSB, and all the Five Eyes in NZ and Aus. But RussiaRussiaRussia! The thing we have NO evidence of, instead of the very thing we DO have evidence of. Because in the #AntiLogos world, every day is #OppositeDay.

    “Kuroda’s as clueless and delusional as Draghi and Powell.”

    I don’t think they’re delusional at all: the rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. That’s the mission, and they are totally successful at it, as their offices have not been lit on fire by the public. The people they work for are better off than ever; isn’t that the point?

    “World Democracy Tour”

    Totally unfair. Clearly all those nations were in need of some FREEDOM! As seen by how wonderful they all became after the U.S. government “helped”! Just like at home in Flint, Michigan and Baltimore. And we probably couldn’t list all the places we bombed. Like the SF s—t map, it would be red dots covering the entire earth. Including all 50 states.

    #48029
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2019/06/perception-management.html
    President Donald “thinks he knows who was behind the 9/11 attacks”, and “it wasn’t Iraq”.
    OK, now what? Is that the end? He can’t really say who did it, can he?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-17/trump-i-think-i-know-who-was-behind-911-attacks

    Caitlin Johnstone:
    What happens when you can control people’s experience of reality? Well, in a world of social creatures who build their society based on dominant consensuses about circumstances and events, you can to an extent control reality itself. You can create a reality where all resources are funneled toward you, your allies and your lackeys.

    Narrative Management = Reality Management

    The View From Abroad, America as Others See It​, from Eleni, in Athens
    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=189928

    President Trump wasn’t thrilled by this morning’s selloff in the euro, and for the first time, is lashing out at ECB chief Mario Draghi, accusing him in a tweet of intentionally manipulating the value of the shared currency with his stimulus talk.
    Earlier, Mario Draghi sent the euro tumbling and German yields to record lows when he said that rate cuts or more asset purchases could be part of the central bank’s toolkit for fending off a recession.
    Update: Trump isn’t letting this go, and is now attacking Draghi because European stock markets rallied on Draghi’s stimulus remarks, which isn’t “fair” for the US.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-18/unprecedented-attack-trump-accuses-draghi-manipulating-euro

    #48030
    Dr. D
    Participant

    #48031
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Yup, that pic won’t post. The answer is it’s Denathor who abandons the city to pure evil rather than try. …Even thoug hif evil gets in, they all die anyway.

    #48032
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Reality Management, absolutely. But that only shows that, as I said yesterday, they are all completely insane. They think the world follows their egos, and if you just lie about it, reality will too. This is false and therefore unstable, it always fails. But don’t think that will stop them, as the definition of being mentally ill, maniacs with their maniacal plans.

    Following today’s theory, let’s hypothesize that Trump is not getting adequate cooperation and surrender from the people who DID do S11, or let’s be more generous and say, “the people who he can BLAME it on, true or false.” So he is putting them on notice that if they don’t shape up, he’s going to Tweet a very interesting story about them and we can all discuss it in public.

    Because otherwise, why threaten? Why lie by keeping the truth to yourself? If you know something, just say it, then we’ll all know. Note his phrasing allows the real culprit to be literally anybody, to match any groups’ internal biases, so every one of them is filling in a different boogeyman right now.

    #48033
    zerosum
    Participant

    So assuming that won’t be done what’s coming?”

    Pain.
    Pain killers.

    Un-Controlled Change.

    #48035
    John Day
    Participant

    @Dr. D,
    The picture came through.
    Yep, I noticed that Trump was doing “Guess what I’m thinking”, a presidential Rorschach test for the uneasy of all ilk.
    Why?
    Maybe the people who did 9/11 are pulling the strings that make him say that.
    Maybe he has some variant of Tourette’s Syndrome and just has to blurt out weird stuff sometimes. Maybe he’s playing 8D chess with (RIP) Spock…
    Sorry, gotta’ get back to managing “reality”…

    “A Man of Wealth and Taste”

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