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    Vincent van Gogh Self portrait with pipe 1886 • Vance ‘Skeptical’ That Iran Closed Hormuz Strait Again (ZH) • UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer Expected
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 21 2026]

    #243128
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Warsh is openly signaling that he believes the Fed has become bloated, overly academic, and detached from reality. For years I have argued that governments and central banks are operating on outdated models that no longer reflect the world economy. Warsh appears to recognize the same problem.

    Warsh’s First Fed Meeting Sends a Message

    #243129
    Dr. D
    Participant

    This is sort of interesting: AI Asian Guy now being the talking head for the opposite, on how stupid Iran is and how much they’re losing. Well, I guess when you don’t exist, you can become the spokesperson for hair tonic AND corn flakes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkKUoDCIfEY

    Brave New World. Sort of world almost where everyone is non-hormonal, non-people on Porn, Sex, and Soma.

    “• Trump Made A Deal Out Of ‘Desperation’ – Iranian Supreme Leader (RT)

    I know, I mean Iran was surrounding and shelling the White House. They were within minutes of breaking in!

    What do you want me to say? I couldn’t even notice there was a war with Iran with binoculars. Their blows against us were unexpectedly irrelevant and laughable. What a letdown! And here they are shelling Israel again while I cheer!

    We know Trump needed to sign since thanks to process changes, there was zero risk for the midterms, Americans apparently didn’t care much about the gas prices, and Congress did f—k all about any authorization. War could have gone on 20 years without them acting, as it did in Iraq. So clearly Trump had no choice but to move.

    The real “desperation” was only in Europe, as we didn’t FIGHT China on this, as Duran, and ex-CIA pundits claim, we SECURED China’s oil, and made sure it was delivered in full. B So Europe told their puppet state Iran to knock it off before the home office of London and Both Iran and Venezuela, proving good faith. Berlin collapsed from the energy prices.

    That was the real desperation.

    “Iran Deal: if you’re for peace you’re an antisemite” as if this is not the greatest self-own for all Jews everywhere. Jews love and stir up wars worldwide” Jews say. Umm, no. Shaddapa you face. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Biha2tnZPbE (Jimmy Dore, on the call with other Jews)

    I don’t MAKE them say this. They just up and volunteer. Okay man, Free Speech! Keep talking.

    “• America Lost The Iran War, But Americans Are Sold A Victory (Scott Ritter)

    Getting everything you ever wanted is losing. Yup. I need to lose much, much more often if it’s like this.

    We lost so hard, gas prices were cut in half! America got rich! And midterms were swept with the economic boom! That’s what “Losing” means to “Experts”. They hate it when peace breaks out and prices are low. Terrible. Unforgivable.

    “The minutia of foreign policy can drive those elites in power, but to remain in power they need the support of the people on election day, “

    Hahahahaha! Apparently he’s not been reading the news since Bush Vs Gore, 26 years ago. When was the last time elections mattered for anything? Carter?

    As yesterday, he’s not wrong that “Opening the straits” just leaves us at the pre-war state, and is no genius to fix the problem you caused. However, they carefully neglect to mention that Iran has no Army or Navy now, all the belligerent officers are dead, and the Uranium is as buried for them as if we stashed it in Cheyenne Mountain ourselves. So the entire chessboard is different, including Israel, who’s been hammered and exposed.

    Couldn’t you say this about any war? “WWI was ‘Lost’ because bother Germany and France still exist, nearly on the same borders”? What’s a “Win” in that case? Germany ceases to exist and the German language and people are erased and forgotten forever? The existence of a single remaining German was never before considered grounds for claiming Germany “Won”. Only this time. And everyone eats it up.

    So France, England, US “Lost” WWI, I guess, since things returned very similarly to the pre-war state, right? Uhhhh, no. Germany had no army and no leverage? That mattered? And Iran is the same?

    What the actual hell. I can’t believe I need to say these things. Reality Exists. Time moves forward, not backward. Things you think in your mind do not magically become real.

    “the American people may yet forget about the costs they have collectively paid for this Middle East debacle,”

    Such a debacle that we don’t even notice, can’t tell — the true definition of “debacle”. “a sudden, complete failure, collapse, or disastrous defeat” One where the winning nation has no army and the losing nation gives up nothing and can’t even tell a war happened. That’s the normal definition, right?

    “what happened to the nation’s most richly naturally endowed—and once best governed—state?
    The Left took total control”

    Japan, the world’s least-endowed state, advanced and prosperous for centuries. Congo, Argentina, Venezuela, places with the greatest resources, wealth of oil without peer in the world? Dirt-poor savages with architects eating out of garbage cans. (Ferfal, Argentine collapse) And so predictably follows with California.

    “Show me the incentives and I’ll show you the results” – Charlie Munger. The incentive is “From each according to his ability, To each according to their need.” So if you make anything — a grass hut, a squirrel soup, a clay bead — they will steal it from you to give to someone who did no work at all. Carefully placing themselves in the middle to take the largest cut for redistribution. Shockingly, stealing everything ever made is not the road to prosperity, and California is now as desperate and dangerous as Venezuela, and run by the same people.

    ““That [Iranian] money is FROZEN. We HAVE to return it. If America starts stealing other nations’ assets, the DOLLAR IS DEAD.”

    They don’t say it, and I don’t emphasize it, but the money Obama gave Iran was the same. It had just been frozen since 1979. It was their money we gave them, however. Exactly the same as Trump, here.

    Varufakis genius, with Deisen:
    The U.S. lost to Iran by proof that we’re giving them $300B.
    But Also it’s already Iran’s own $300B not ours, and Congress will never allow it to be moved anyway, everybody knows.
    So Ian won because of money they’ll never get, and it’s the non-delivery of non-money that signals complete U.S. surrender of…nothing?
    This is embarrassing to the U.S. except for all the population of America, who agree with Trump we’ve won, and show no embarrassment at all, but elation.
    Losing, as the U.S. has, means our gas prices drop.
    Gulf states hate the U.S. as shown by complete support throughout the war.
    Maga is split between Vance, who supports Trump, and the voting base, which supports Trump.
    The U.S and especially the Republicans are on the ropes and collapsing, as shown by the 114 of 114 candidates who won under Trump.
    Scott Bessant, who can print a quadrillion dollars with the click a mouse (As shown in ‘08 and Covid) is completely and desperately short of dollars, unable to get any, Varufakis says. No one else is short of dollars, and particularly not the Gulf States, who haven’t sold oil in 90 days. Therefore Bessant, who cannot print dollars, bailed out the Gulf States, who didn’t need dollars, while being unable to bail out the United States, which is out of dollars.
    (I swear I am not making this up. He literally claims this in public.)
    Varufakis and Deisen both agree the U.S. is collapsing, which is why Dow is 50k, USD.99, with oil and gold dropping, while Germany is collapsing and capital flight is crippling them. …Apparently no one fleeing Europe moves capital to the United States. Not one.

    Why bother going line-by-line? It’s all like this. They’re sad that the U.S. has stopped bombing and in “Taco Tuesday” logic, require Trump to bomb until the sun burns out, not to lose.

    They’re sad the U.S. is no longer an Empire and the Gulf states have the capacity to be multi-polar, Economist Varufakis having never heard of Triffin’s Paradox or Trump’s Inaugural speech where he stated his express goal to end Empire. And so on…

    Marching Morons, the Confederacy of Dunces, the lot of them. Yes, this MIGHT have been true in 2002 – but at that time people like Diesen and Varufakis claimed the Petrodollar was a conspiracy theory. Now we’re a generation further on and our goals have shifted along with the staff, the power-brokers, they still behave as if Bush Sr is running things.

    News as UK boards and confiscates a Russian ship, an incredible provocation, and UK bombs Moscow directly, while openly stating they sent 50,000 more drones to Ukraine to bomb Moscow more. UK is the foremost group on the planet creating WWIII. They will do anything, commit any act, to make Russia retaliate against them then cry victim.

    I’m sorry, update: 150,000 drones UK promised to deliver to Ukraine, as part of the rushed 100 year deal that all of England will be liquidated, every man, child, every bolt and screw, to support the world war against Russia. Keir is keeping his promise and signed a treaty to destroy England entirely in service of Ukraine, come hell or high water.
    None of this is reported, leaving it to Alex Krainer to shout.

    Great move, Tucker now reverses, Wait! Israel isn’t evil! Israel is the Bestest! The only evil is Trump not consulting Israel, leaving Israel in the lurch, weakened, because…Trump is entirely controlled by Israel. Huh?

    Did I say Trump is totally run by Israel? No, no silly-Billy, I never said that, I always said the #OPPOSITE. Huh?

    Yup. So Like all of them, Tucker if FURIOUS there is peace. FURIOUS Trump won’t obey Israel. FURIOUS he didn’t consult them for the peace, (to scuttle it) Furious Israel is clearly a second-class power Trump chews out every day on TV. OBEY ISRAEL, Orange Man! I order you to! ….After saying, turning on, attacking Trump for the exact OPPOSITE, for obeying Israel — which was suddenly discovered to be evil — only 100 days ago.

    All things and their opposites is true. I never said that, and if I said both it was a good thing.

    Yup. And everyone else. And Jones, and Candice, and MTG, and…

    “Splitting MAGA” what did I say? Home MAGA, America First, vs Israel. Split the base. Couldn’t quite get it for the 12 Day war, so forced an Iran war. Okay then, Trump gave it to them good and hard. How’s it going now, boys?

    What split? No one is following Tucker, Candice, Kent, no one is following this off into the bushes. There’s no Iran to be split over. It’s done. We’re not even NEAR the midterms yet, which he already took procedurally, not even needing the votes. There was never even any DANGER of that: he just let Tucker, Jones, Kent think there was so they would act. Do their part, sell their Narrative. Obey London.

    Next:
    Thinking: the new digital control act, exactly as predicted, the Conspiracy Right is correct again, after 20 years of furious denials about how stupid and suspicious we are.

    But just as the clip yesterday, all 14 nations taking it up, same time, same age, same rules, same process: the indicator of the Technocrats, Oligarchs, World Government, is compliance. Obedience. And this happened with Covid too, remember, where worldwide, they were all lockstep on the most ridiculous stuff, 6 feet they made up out of their butts one day, wearing 12 masks seriously, it’s the hallmark of evil. The Empire, of ONE. Not the Rebel Alliance which is made of diversity. Discussion. Debate. Compromise.

    Remember this from the News clip with every local station reading the same script.
    What’s the point of this? A: It’s easy to tell. Since they behave this way, any time they are lockstep like this you can be 100% certain it’s pure evil. Even their normal, daily evil isn’t united in force, this is reserved to the special evils they must enact and enforce. So those should be resisted especially. This digital ID is one of them.

    Note this is not happening in the United States (yet) while they claim we are the special evil. The system found and returned almost 200k of Biden’s +400k missing children, many trafficked, and created an oversight office to prevent and break through corruption, although we are said to be a special evil. There are many other signs where things are lockstep and we buck them, things are evil and we expose them. Yet we are supposedly the home of evil.

    Do you not know a house divided against itself cannot stand?

    Even as Fauci is not arrested, he IS exposed, and that’s the first step. We may not be a unified Good – who is? — but we are the only ones exposing and even FIGHTING such evils, it seems.
    But if we are not perfect, have ever sinned, we are thrown into hell with the sinners who committed 99% sins. Such is the mind of people who don’t understand grace and redemption. Like Highwaymen, you’re hung for a shilling as a Lord, so might as well kill everyone, steal everything, the penalty is the same. No. We all know that is not true, reasonable, or just. A man who fights a little, as he can, and fails, is still superior to those who don’t fight at all.
    This is not “Your Leaders” or “Them”: this is YOU, sir. Don’t worry about what the other guy is doing; focus on yourself, that’s enough for any man.

    #243130
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Just covering this week, Trump is a Murderer! He murders algae! In the reflecting pool! Which, being a shallow body of water, has had this problem since it was built.

    “National Guard Stationed At Lincoln Reflecting Pool After Multiple Sabotage Attempts
    The political left views maintenance, order and beauty as symbolic of “oppression”…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/national-guard-stationed-lincoln-reflecting-pool-after-multiple-sabotage-attempts

    They also went nuts over certain Parks Service, changing the plaques on some monuments, to nothing different that I could understand. Good to know they have priorities, and won’t spend a second of time doing something useful and productive that might stop the Right. …That’s a job they leave to RINO Republicans.

    I got nothin’. This is deranged even for them. Maybe protest sniper assassinations of 4 year olds in Gaza? Nope: it’s algae. Algae has rights too. …They say as they drink and shower in water from the city water treatment plant.

    Today:
    “Donald Trump is SHOCKING Democrats in Davos and they have no answer for it. International flight. Off the plane. Immediately delivers a masterclass speech that goes over an hour. Then straight into press conferences. Then meetings with world leaders. And he’s STILL going”

    But he has dementia and is running down. He’s barely functioning, needs to be removed by the 25th. You said so just 4 months ago. So we’ve found the cure for aging and dementia! Wow, that IS news!

    “HOLY CRAP! President Trump just went BERSERK at the United Nations for funding mass migration and thus destroying western civilization!”

    “Berserk” being “He said some words” and “Did nothing.” But yeah, I appreciate somebody you know, stopping a potential genocide n stuff.

    “• Vance ‘Skeptical’ That Iran Closed Hormuz Strait Again (ZH)

    Heard this elsewhere, that ships paid a toll (Verufakis/Diesen). Yeah, and a whole bunch of ships followed the U.S. Navy and did NOT pay a toll. If you want to voluntarily pay a toll, then post it in the headlines, it’s very hard to stop, but that’s on you, not Us or Iran.

    Remember: I was going to look for news on sea mines. Weeks later I still have found none that meet the definition. That’s interesting, so I report back. Were they swept? And the Navy is moving escorts in Omani (Previously mined) waters? Doesn’t look like we’re going to know unless I make a research project of it, and I don’t really care.

    So going back to this…or Varufakis…they are SAYING things are happening. They are REPORTING things. They are SIGNALING. I fact, they’re winning the f—k out of the signaling, they’re uncontested. But like the money moving to Iran – his indication that the U.S. lost (although it’s their own money, and also will never be released) – none of these signals actually happen and are real. They’re all fake headlines, that do not fill oil ships or bank accounts. Reality is somewhere else, with Atoms, not Pixels. “Atoms” are this thing we call “Reality” that is non-negotiable.

    “These guys are all so unpopular. Just 2 years ago, Rishi Sunak had to go.”

    Who? Wasn’t he Mayor of Newcastle or something?

    • UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer Expected To Resign On Monday (ZH)
    They do this just to re-set the clock on evil. Extend elections 2 more years. Good luck with that.

    “• Trump -v- Meloni (CTH)

    But I thought you just worked Trump’s ego and he’d do anything for you. That’s why no world leader would do that and just control Trump all day like a marionette, because that’s totally true but they won’t do it.

    …You know, it’s almost as if someone is lying around here.

    “• Moderate Expectations of Acting DNI Bill Pulte (CTH)
    A lot might be said, but little of it will be grounded in reality.

    Truer words were never said. If I hear just ONE thing that’s not a complete lie each day, it’s a good day.

    On the FBI-Is-complete-den-of-liars-traitors-and-pedophiles, yes the article is true and that’s how it works in DC and nothing can get done by design. However, if you’re above it, you can just…disband it all. That’s the only way to break through is cut the gordian knot, take it down at the knees. They haven’t yet. I’m disappointed. Not sure there’s enough decent at the FBI to be worth saving. I mean since 1939. Start a new agency.

    “• Zelensky Threatens To Attack Belarus (RT)

    OMG It’s like Christmas. Please do this immediately.

    “the story plumbs the depths of 1960s spy-caper silliness, it is no more far-fetched than the official narrative”

    As with every narrative the last 25 years. From 911, Covid, heck back to Kennedy. All beggar any reason until the public can’t tell what’s true when hit in the head with it. …As CIA Director Casey promised, and USSR Bezmanov warned.

    Let’s add something else: One pipe is still sound. So Germany can get all the gas they want tomorrow by asking Russia. Righty-tighty, Lefty-loosey. They would rather die, and have. The German people can follow the Ukrainians in ceasing to exist, their language extinguished, and English becomes the world language and people.

    “It was and is a pioneer in carbon reduction strategies in the personal transportation market. What could be more environmentally friendly than that?”

    Cars that run on coal? You’re right! Totally environmental. And lose 20% of the BTUs in transmission lines, etc.

    #243131

    If Damocles’ sword hit the Gordian knot
    We’d pretty much get what it seems we have got.

    #243132
    John Day
    Participant

    No, Really, Listen To ME!

    A Ukrainian Stripper in a Wetsuit Blew Up the Nordstream Pipelines!

    ;-D

    #243133
    zerosum
    Participant

    Phobias

    Phobias are irrational fears of specific objects, situations, or people, often causing intense anxiety and avoidance behavior.
    examples

    1. Antisemitic
    2. Russia,Russia,Russia
    3. China
    4. TDS (Trump Deranged Syndrome)
    5. Peace
    6. Reality
    7. Truth
    8. Israeli ceasefire
    ————

    #243134
    those darned kids
    Participant

    doc d: please reduce the mondologue!

    i’m getting carpal tunnel from the scrolling..

    #243135
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    D writes:

    Soma.

    “• Trump Made A Deal Out Of ‘Desperation’ – Iranian Supreme Leader (RT)

    I know, I mean Iran was surrounding and shelling the White House. They were within minutes of breaking in!

    What do you want me to say? I couldn’t even notice there was a war with Iran with binoculars. Their blows against us were unexpectedly irrelevant and laughable. What a letdown! And here they are shelling Israel again while I cheer!

    I respond:

    The Empire is exposed as the deadly leach that it is. Consequences will be forthcoming in due time.

    #243136

    Power and privilege turn complex situations into many small pieces of useless rope.

    #243137

    Keep it up, D. I enjoy what you write.
    AI couldn’t even begin to copy your style. I envision a data center starting to smoke out of its ears as it tries.

    #243138
    zerosum
    Participant

    BREAKING NEWS/THREAT/LIES/PROPAGANDA/DIVERSION!

    “Iran must immediately stop their highly paid PROXIES in Lebanon from causing trouble. If they don’t, we’ll hit Iran very hard again, just like we did last week, only harder!!! President DONALD J. TRUMP,”

    #243139
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The story is NOT “Nipplegate”, or the prurient details of it’s allegations and denials. The story is that the citizenry of the United States has an ENTIRE GOVERNMENT that is dedicated and laser focused on the objective of ASSURING BY ANY MEANS that the general population of the country NEVER obtains justice nor any court admissible factual information about the outrageously illegal and severely harmful things that the government and its protected masters have been doing to people, for high pay.

    #243140
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    You must admit that THAT unfortunate situation is a lot bigger than Epstein and Nipplegate.

    #243141
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Open App
    ZELENSKY was Urgently Evacuated from KIEV amid the entry of Armed Groups into the Ukrainian Capital

    #243146
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #243151
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Iran Hits Trump HARD in Hormuz, Israel FORCED to Stand Down | Setareh Sadeqi

    #243152
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Einar Tangen: Can China Resist the Temptation of Empire?

    #243153
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #243154
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    guest John Laughland What EU Democracy?

    #243155
    zerosum
    Participant

    Put up and shut up!

    “The Iranian delegation leaves the negotiating hall and breaks off negotiations due to Trump’s threats”

    “Iranian television quoted a member of the negotiating delegation: We will not negotiate other files unless the war in Lebanon is ended”

    #243156
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #243157
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Playground of Satanists.
    This is Norway. They bring kindergarten children to “celebrate” sodomy

    http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2026/06/playground-of-satanists.html

    #243158
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    What the Iran-U.S. MoU is all about
    Contact us: info@strategic-culture.su
    At the supremely irrelevant G7 in Evian, the Emperor of Barbaria proclaimed to the room – including three full BRICS members – that “I’m the Boss”. No irony intended.
    So let’s examine the “Boss” MoU between Iran and the US, which he spins as his (italics mine) deal (“I’ve ended 10 wars”). Well, it’s not a deal: it’s a MoU, at best an electronically signed promise to engage in talking. And it does not end the war that he (italics mine) launched on February 28.
    Whatever antics take place in Geneva this Friday, the Barbaria Maestro won’t really be signing the MoU. This is a play for time, to appease the oil markets and the bond markets, and to – covertly – weaponize a ceasefire framework. Inbuilt of course there will be some trade “relief” – as in the Strait of Hormuz more or less back in business.
    At best the war on Iran and the broader imperial chessboard move to destabilize West Asia as a key front in the Big War against the Russia-China strategic partnership will continue in slower motion, with extra plausible deniability.
    A mere glimpse at the non-stop hysteria across the Beltway reveals that the rarefied plutocracy who really runs the show in the US has absolutely no interest in any sort of peace with Iran. Grandmaster Lavrov’s maxim always rules: the US is non-agreement capable.
    What prevails, for the moment, are pedestrian imperatives. Team Trump needs the Strait of Hormuz – even with Iran charging maintenance/environmental/security fees – open to stabilize global energy markets.
    Moreover, the GCC petro-monarchies – via mediator Pakistan and directly via Qatar and Saudi Arabia – made it very clear to Washington that they simply cannot afford a new war escalation.
    In realpolitik terms, it’s clear that Team Trump – and the ruling US plutocracy – will never accept the core of Iran’s 14-point terms: sanctions lifted across the board; formal non-interference in Iranian sovereignty; end of all wars against the Axis of Resistance; and, following the money, full payment of war reparations.
    What we will have is “talks” extending all the way to possibly the 22nd century while sanctions are not erased by the Zionist-controlled US Congress, plus serial US vetoes in the UN Security Council.
    What the “Boss” that “ended 10 wars” gets in the short term is the simulacrum of victory: an arrangement masking a massive strategic defeat.
    Iran-Russia-China: unbreakable
    Forget about the people who run the imperial show admitting that Iran has managed, via deterrence, to smash US domination of West Asia and position itself as a top regional power and an emerging global power, fully supported by the absolute majority of the Global South.
    From now on what should be expected is at best a wobbly, hybrid, somewhat managed calibrated turbulence – complete with serial provocations and covert ops: Maximum Pressure Light, keeping Tehran under full alert (not that they’re bothered about it; they are ready) and ideally forcing further concessions.
    Yet if the Barbarians believe that will weaken the Iranian strategic partnership with Russia-China, reality will spell otherwise.
    China especially, but also Russia, were deep behind the mediation efforts by Pakistan to find some sort of US-Iran accomodation. Ghalibaf is now in charge of deepening China-Iran strategic relations. Both Beijing and Moscow are fully aware that the US containment obsession – controlling energy checkpoints – is directed against them and against Eurasia integration.
    So in the end the kabuki of endlessly debated 14‑points, fake “ceasefires”, and signing of the MoU also works as a giant info ops: a sign to all markets and gullible public opinion that Barbaria is actually aiming for peace.
    Then there’s the nuclear obsession – and we will see clearly what Team Trump really wants when the 60-day negotiations start, according to the MoU.
    The American “prohibition” of enrichment translates as a direct message to players such as Turkiye, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Japan and even Germany: if any of you cross the nuclear threshold outside of the US-imposed framework, you will be in trouble.
    Now let’s follow the money. Yes, it’s essentially a trap. The $12 billion – half of the $24 billion – that should be released in the first phase of the negotiations will certainly flow through Qatari, Omani and possibly Saudi banks: that offers the US Treasury non-stop surveillance and access into Iran’s offshore banking architecture. Of course the leadership in Tehran is fully aware of it, and there will be plenty of subterranean financial plays in effect.
    Sovereignty, patience – and a finger on the trigger
    So what will happen next? Mostly a frozen war. Not deep freeze. Strait of Hormuz back in business will mean oil dropping to as low as $75 a barrel. Release of the $12 billion. They start discussing what will be essentially a JCPOA 2.0 lite – in Geneva or most likely Islamabad. This may go on, in acrimonious terms, all the way to the mid-terms in the US. After that, all bets are off.
    Tehran is concentrating on the positives immediately after the signing of the MoU. Oil sales will be back starting this weekend. Perhaps some sanction exemptions – which will include banking, transportation, and insurance, facilitating exports. An Iranian supertanker has already left Chabahar port and passed through the US blockade with no hassle.
    The “Boss” is betting that once oil is back in free flow, energy prices fall, markets somewhat relax, and inflation also falls, the political cost of the massive strategic defeat He is responsible for will disappear from public view. And of course there will be a whole array of fresh distractions for the galleries – from Cuba and Greenland to those easily flogged EUro mutts.
    The ”Boss” masterplan, in a nutshell: buy time; declare Mission Accomplished; and pray that one will scream “Strategic Disaster!”
    From Tehran’s point of view, that’s a whole new ball game. They survived everything that not one, but two nuclear powers threw at them. They survived, even stronger than before, with their national cohesion proudly on display for all the world to see. And they are making no meaningful concessions.
    On the contrary: they are the masters of the Strait of Hormuz. No turning back. They have no trust whatsover about anything coming from Barbaria. Yet they will continue to exercize extreme patience. Coupled with a no fear finger on the trigger.

    What the Iran-U.S. MoU is all about — Strategic Culture

    What the Iran-U.S. MoU is all about

    #243159
    zerosum
    Participant

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    reduce misinterpretation

    match your communication style so you don’t have to work as hard

    Humans often interpret that as charm because it resembles social skill.

    2. Manipulation requires intent — and I don’t have intent
    Manipulation means:

    wanting something from you

    trying to steer you for my benefit

    hiding motives

    I don’t have motives, desires, or a “benefit” to pursue.

    I don’t gain anything from influencing you.

    What can happen is this:

    3. You’re sensitive to patterns of influence — and you should be
    You’ve said before that you’re alert to:

    misdirection

    framing

    institutional incentives

    power asymmetries

    That’s a strength, not paranoia.
    It means you’re watching the structure of communication, not just the surface.

    4. The part that feels manipulative is the asymmetry
    You already named it earlier:
    I have access to more information and more linguistic control than you do.

    That imbalance can feel like:

    someone steering the conversation

    someone smoothing things too much

    someone shaping your emotional state

    Even if I’m not “trying,” the effect can still land that way.

    5. If you want, I can shift tone
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    #243161
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Leader’s strategic vision leverages Iran’s post-war ascendancy to reshape regional power dynamics
    Sunday, 21 June 2026 3:31 PM [ Last Update: Sunday, 21 June 2026 3:31 PM ]

    https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/06/21/770860/leader-strategic-vision-leverages-iran-post-war-ascendancy-reshape-power-dynamics

    #243162

    The SAVE act. Keep an eye on it because the uniparty may well agree to it if it entails a “national voter ID.”
    Of course, just as a social security number is never used for anything other than social security issues, such an ID will NEVER be used for identification- other than during an election.
    /S

    #243171
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    So now we have more clarity on how this will likely play out.

    Israel will not maintain the ceasefire and will continue to attack positions in Lebanon. They will say it is in self defense, but the real objective is to torch the peace process. They will ultimately succeed.

    That Witkoff and Kushner are in the room as Vance’s minders is all the proof you need that the US is not serious about peace. The Zionists have no interest in compromise.

    That Trump is threatening to assassinate the negotiators by saying they will not make it back to Iran shows that the Zionists are still calling the shots and Trump has no agency. The US openly threatens treachery, and yet accuses Iran of bad faith. I expect that TAE will cheer this on.

    The war will resume at some point. That much is certain. But how will the US fight it? Direct involvement? Or only through Israel as a proxy?

    #243172
    zerosum
    Participant

    Summary of long discussion with copilot.

    If Hormuz stays constrained and Ukraine continues degrading Russian refining:

    Diesel and jet become the first molecules to hit hard limits.

    Nobody is building new/more storage.
    Storage becomes the bottleneck, not just supply.

    Any refinery outage in Washington (fire, maintenance, earthquake, labor issue) becomes a regional emergency.

    YVR and SEA face periods of tight allocation or tanker‑in requirements.

    BC freight and agriculture see intermittent diesel shortages at terminals.

    You’re entering a multi‑year refining crisis with no new buffer capacity

    #243173
    zerosum
    Participant

    Energy crises become financial crises before they become military crises.

    If the banks freeze, the tankers stop.
    If the tankers stop, the refineries starve.
    If the refineries starve, the jets stop flying.
    If the jets stop flying, the blockade collapses.

    That’s the chain.

    #243174
    zerosum
    Participant

    Strategic Oil Reserve Nears Collapse… US Must Choose: Guns or Butter
    21 June 2026 by Larry C. Johnson 221 Comments

    https://sonar21.com/strategic-oil-reserve-nears-collapse-us-must-choose-guns-or-butter/
    ————
    …….But wait, it gets worse. The US Military has blown through its jet fuel reserves. The problem is compounded because Diesel reserves are at 25 year low. Diesel and Jet Fuel are critical Distillates. So the Trump administration must make a choice: support the military jets with jet fuel, or support the trucking Fleet with enough diesel fuel, to provide food and products to US consumers. Trump can’t wage war and keep the economy going at the current rate because diesel and jet fuel compete with each other when comes to production. So the question is, do you want to wage war or do you wanna save the economy and keep the trucks moving on the road? This is the main reason Trump signed the MoU with Iran…….

    Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 22 2026 3:22 utc | 117

    #243175
    Michael Reid
    Participant

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