Debt Rattle June 8 2020
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 8 2020]Rosenstein, Comey, Trump, Obama, Clinton, Flynn, Page, Manafort…..dear God, it’s like reading an endless gossip column about the in-fighting amongst Marie Antoinette’s ladies-in-waiting.
They’re all lying, they are all corrupt, the media just picks its side based on the political leanings of its editorial staff and then presents its lies about all of it, too. Who can possibly give a shit about any of it?
Now, this sort of thing (below) bothers me, and seems important in the long run:
Trump just signed an executive order using emergency powers to gut the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act, and the National Environmental Policy Act, waiving the requirement for environmental review for construction projects.
By the way, thank you for explaining your intro to that article to me yesterday, Ilargi. I had not understood what you were saying at all. Your reply to my comment totally cleared it up for me.
“They’re all lying”
I’m not lying.
I just cut and paste.The only lies that count/matter are from influencers, enablers, lawyers, accountants, politicians and elites
After our first weekend of being open since lockdown and some random conversations in public, i am very worried about how some people are handling this. The anti trump people have turned the volume up to 11, and if you try and explain to them that things aren’t very different under trump then they were under obama they storm off like you just insulted their mother in the worst way imaginable. They’re frothing at the mouth, i guess to get rid of trump, but i doubt that’ll change anything. You can’t have a conversation with these people.
“The only truly systemic dynamic in their plight is the campaign by government, ongoing for more than fifty years, to uplift them with social programs, cash assistance, and affirmative action, plus monuments, prizes, and holidays, and very vocal public encouragement from “allies” in media, entertainment and sports. All this “help” only seems to make the problems worse.” — Kunstler
Huh. Funny.
Taleb still applying high math to garbage data. So how good are masks? According to what? Used how? Didn’t we already find that they reduce only like 80% even when well-used? So if you are infected in 5 minutes, you’re now infected in 40 minutes — almost no help at all in a workday. Yet no one’s sick at Publix and WalMart. That’s aside from official hospital use – you know, with “science,” before we began using them as buffalo rattle talismans – which said masks couldn’t be used much longer than 30 minutes before being saturated and useless. And the public is under no such conditions to clean, not touch, swap, nothing.
So, if I can smell someone’s cologne instantly through a mask, how good are viruses, which are far smaller? Masks then do NOT work in NYC – AT ALL — but DO somehow work in Wyoming. They work in Red States but not Blue states. And they aren’t necessary in million man marches next to Governor Whitmer because: Magic! Reasons! And that’s according to medical professionals who three months ago said “No masks for any reasons; they’re a useless waste as the public can’t use them right.” …And you’re going to apply second-level math to this. AFTER we already have data that masks WERE used in NYC and did NOT work, disproving his math in a real world situation…For five months running , which are the headline numbers he himself is working from. IYI man, you’ve jumped the shark. …The shark on the moon. Next to Brian Williams.
This is what happens when you live in your ego and never consult the planet outside you. What is that about “skin in the game”? God, I wish I could have made a $50,000 bet with him on this to sharpen his thought. But I made my own bets and won. In fact, I overestimated by a factor of four, just to be polite. So far, 100,000 with normal Flu being 75,000. Standard Flu season range, already posted CDC’s own numbers. But, facts: no one cares. Facts don’t give the feelz.
“Stanford Professor Michael Levitt said that [the lockdown] actually made very little difference.”
As predicted. And that was because of the very high transmissibility. But uselessly and intentionally closing DID destroy the economy, the middle class, and cause delayed medical care and riots that will lead to a lot more deaths, maybe 10x more. So thanks for helping. You know, the “help” that makes all problems worse? Like 99% of the time? Please consult the planet outside of you. Please calibrate your antenna of “helping” vs not helping over time, as Kunstler suggests.
“1,425 more [cases] than the day before”
Which of course, and again and again and again and again means nothing. Does it mean they have more testing now? Did a single person become inconvenienced or die? Is the test still 50% accurate? I’m not saying nothing DID happen, but numbering the cases or tests means no more to me than the number of Texans who wore red today. Hospitals are empty. And because of it, they’re going bankrupt. The intentionally stopped economy is both demonstrably and statistically killing 10-fold more people now.
I’m not just making this up to play advocate: U of Pittsburgh says even those testing positive have a noticeably smaller viral load now. The virus is going away with no help from anything. Because how would anything we’re doing both allow infection and also reduce the load? So the Test ≠ Test now. That is, a test in January would suggest a viral load and therefore pursuant sickness of 80, but now that positive test indicates a load and severity and possible sickness of 8?
For science and math guys, the Queensboro Bridge Troll has better math and logic. It’s d—-d embarrassing. My terrible math shouldn’t be beating anyone’s. Engage brian, not confirmation. We’ve got a stack of mysteries on CV to solve, but they’re stuck to the narrative like a tongue to the flagpole instead.
And this is on top of learning that some very large percentage appears to be immune. We don’t know the limits or numbers (young healthy care workers are still sick at higher rates) but perhaps +50% appear unable to get it?
I assume it’s because they’re in large crowds and rioting. A certain cure. According to official health care professionals and governments, I kid you not. Literally rioting is safe and legal but Temple is still closed and Jews are arrested at funerals. You can protest in your Bodega, but not sell water to the 5,000 people outside. Solution? A NC racetrack said they were having a “Protest”, with high ticket sales. Who says it isn’t?
This same logic that says “When in riots, disband the police”. We can’t prove that ISN’T a good idea since nobody in the history of earth has ever been dumb enough to try it. But it’s their city: do what you want with it. Just don’t ask for bailouts of your dumb ideas.
So anyway, the hilarity was people coming home from said police hatred-and-disbanding protests, get jumped, then say “Stop being mean to me or else I’m going to cry daddy and call 911 on you..” So, the you want the police disbanded AND to make them your personal bully? Gotcha. Well, hope you all like 2A because without police you’re all going to carry a handgun every minute for the rest of your life, like back on the frontier. And that probably won’t be adequate, so plan on joining the local posse or gang, who will naturally feud with all the neighboring posses and gangs. …Maybe we’ll all learn why we have this system and people are jumping the walls to get IN to the United States, not out. It’s so bad and lawless everyone’s trying to come here. I’m all for it. Having to do some work with some risk instead of whining, complaining, and demanding daddy fix it while they eat cheetos would do them some good. But 500,000 innocents will die in the turmoil before they learn. Maybe that’s what it takes. That’s what Alexander Tytler says anyway.
Same with the NY Times. I think it’s awesome they want to shut down all opinions and all speech, that they literally can no longer publish “news” and “opinions.” Now it’s not just cranks on the internet saying it, it’s clear to the whole nation who and what they are. As with protests, Mayors, plans, orders, and so on.
Million man march in D.C., shut down all police, not only stood down the national guard, but evicted them from their hotel rooms. Demanded all pathways to the White House be made wide open, and Mayors and CNN top reporters supported rioting and killing of black business owners as the innocent “voice of the people.” Disbanded all law and order, supported the violence in all DNC cities nationwide. This is the best possible, for now we all, every American, knows. If they like that sort of thing and the results, great. If not, they have options and responses. The Federal system is running fantastic, as states or cites have authority within their districts to do as they wish, so long as we’re not being invaded. They can call for Federal support any time, day or night, the minute they want violence to stop. But they don’t, which is their prerogative and right.
So who will the voters blame? They’ve sold what, 6 million guns this month? And since nobody on the right needed a 3rd Bursa, they are overwhelmingly leftist city-and-suburban voters buying their first. Suddenly supporting 1A, with protests, which are perfectly legal. Chris “no quarantine” Cuomo said, “Who says protests have to be peaceful?” Well, Christopher, quote: “the right of the people PEACEABLY to assemble…” Also supporting 2A, as they have the right to self-defense, not only for their person, but collectively. At this rate we’ll restore all 10 human rights, but I’m still waiting on #4. So…question: which way do Constitutionally-minded, armed and prepped citizens usually vote?
Good luck. The less the government gets involved, the better it’s getting and the more ground we’ve recovered. In just 4 weeks they’ve done what all the years since Reagan couldn’t. Pelosi, Schumer, DeBlasio, Cuomo, Bowser, Lightfoot, Whitmer, CNN, NBC, I owe you my deepest gratitude. Are you sure you’re not on the payroll? Every breath is a poster child and campaign ad, just like “All of the architects of the Iraq War think Donald Trump is unfit.” Thanks! I’m just going to run that on loop for 5 months and go golfing.
Like I said, you don’t get out of what we’ve done for nothing. However, compared to a civil war, it could hardly be better, a heavenly dream of peace and harmonious progress, kumbaya.
Mr. House:
What you are running into are these people’s need to “pretend to nothing know certain things” especially those that conflict with their beliefs.
These people’s leaders then “pretend to not know certain things” that conflict with their political beliefs.
We know from experience, for example, communism does not work. The reason communism doesn’t work is because there is nothing in it for the individual person. Each individual person is quite happy to let the other person do all the hard work.
If you try to explain this to a communist, they will simply dismiss this out of hand because it conflicts with their beliefs. It is very important to a communist that they ” pretend to not know this”, so they can continue to believe in communism.
A more recent example of this “pretend to not know certain things” is Michigan’s Dem governor banning the use by doctors of HCQ to treat Covid-19. She threatened to revoke the medical license of any Michigan doctor who proscribed HCQ to patients suffering from covid-19.
Why did she do this? She did it because after President Trump mentioned HCQ, the Dems immediately attacked the President for saying the obvious. As a Dem politician, it was more important for her, to do anything that might hurt the President, than it was to help the people of Michigan. In order to do this, she had “to pretend not to know certain things”.
Thanks for the Texas map of cases and article, Ilargi. I’m honored, and also recovered after breakfast and a shower, having pushed the little Honda mower another 2.5 hours this morning, before it got above 95.
The map shows minimal COVID in Lavaca Country, where I am right now, and Dewitt county, one block west, and low concentrations in Austin, where I work, and San Antonio, where my daughter works in the county hospital.
We have been remarkably spared.
I don’t like Governor Abbot, but he’s not stupid.
He is monitoring the hospitalizations and case severity, and opening up the economy as much as the hospital vacancies will allow, here in the peak months of vitamin-D.
“As of mid-April, concerns that Texas hospitals would be unable to accommodate a surge of COVID-19 patients seem to have been assuaged. As he makes decisions about how quickly to restart the Texas economy, Abbott says he is watching the number of hospitalizations and the hospitalization rate — the proportion of infected Texans who require hospitalization.”
Resident Physician With Plenty Of Tomatoes LatelyMcCabe and Rosenstein.
Caged rats will chew the eyes out of a weakened rat.
I’ve seen it when I did exercise physiology research and over exercised some rats.Very interesting idea. I think its even more simple then that, i’m a firm believer that High School never ends. The people that hate trump are doing it because its the cool thing to do. You should see all the online dating profiles that state if you voted for trump don’t bother trying to date me. I doubt most of these people have any grasp of politics or philosophy beyond what the TV tells them.
Dr D pointed out some problems with the counting of Covid-19 cases. The number of deaths (looking at all causes) would probably give some better clues about what’s really going on.
The latest numbers for the US show that the number of excess deaths (from all causes) during 2020 is a lot worse than the significant spike during the 2018 flu season.
https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_06022020/WeeklyExcessDeathsBreaking this down by cause of death (last updated 3 June) reveals that the overall weekly numbers of deaths for all categories, for all states combined, are now down to about “normal” levels, except for deaths caused by “Alzheimer disease and dementia.” Deaths attributed to “Respiratory diseases” are currently below 2015-2019 levels. Curious.
https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_06022020/LargeCauseofDeathGroupsThe data can be examined further at the CDC page on “Excess Deaths Associated with Covid-19.”. The category “other select causes” can be broken down to show that deaths attributed to diabetes were significantly higher in 2020 (and remain higher) than the 2015-2019 average.
Let me comment, as a medical doctor, who has seen a fair number of head injuries and even had a couple, that there is something very fishy about the claims that Martin Gugino the 75 year old protester from Albany (nor Buffalo) was injured at all.
I AM NO FAN OF POLICE BRUTALITY! (I am being accused of that.)
Watch the video:
There is a modest shove to the chest, and Gugino takes 2-3 steps back, about 6 feet, before he falls, off-camera. When the camera pans onto him he is lying flat and still, holding his head off the ground, and holding his smartphone in his right hand, with good control, looking calm.
He appears to be holding his head off the ground because he has so much thoracic kyphosis, raising his neck off the ground, that he cannot easily get his head to the ground. This is clearly a position-of-conscious choice he is maintaining, not the position of chance that somebody who just sustained a massive basilar skull fracture and had lost consciousness would be in.
I do not see how he could fracture the base of the skull under his right ear without having something like a curb to hit. There is nothing at all like that.
There is no sign of injury to his head on examination, yet something bloodlike is suddenly pouring out of his right ear as he lies there in his controlled position of choice, awake, deftly and gently holding his smartphone.
These things do not go together medically.
Somebody showed me a close-up of the right side of his head, where the elastic band goes around his ear, holding his mask on, with a little tube going from inside the mask into his ear. I looked it up, and the image is here, way down in the comments scroll. You may be able to enlarge it.
Buffalo Officials Duped By Professional Antifa Provocateur – Arrest and Charge Two Police Officers – Righteous Police Team Stand Together and Walk Out…
Martin Gugino was awake, alert, oriented and conversant in the hospital, immediately on admission. His lawyer asked for “privacy”, and I can find no further update on his condition at Erie County Medical Center. No further updates. Is he still there? What are his discharge diagnoses, if not?
The police officers are not being supported, and they acted with good self-control, well within training. They are being charged for a public perception, not their actions. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/buffalo-police-officers-charged-shoving-elderly-protester-200607063709360.html
This goes to hearing in late July. there will be “discovery” of facts and evidence, regarding any injuries.
I predict that this goes away before that, but it is quite influential as propaganda in the meantime.“We know from experience, for example, communism does not work.” Wes, have you looked at what Cuba and Vietnam’s success story with covid is? Compare that to the “great” democracies of th US and UK.
Nobody has a health system better than the USA, that why the USA was able to “flatten the curve”.
Just look at the large numbers that the USA is handling. More that anyone else.From Worldometer yesterday evening -before their day’s close
😉(“to pretend NOT to know certain things”.)
Half minute video of Martin Gugino advancing quickly to police, scanning 2 with his smartphone, being pushed in the chest, taking 3 big steps back out of video frame as he lowers his bottom, hitting his motorcycle helmet in left hand on the ground (audible), presumably to break his fall, lying with smartphone and helmet held in hands and head held up, while dark fluid immediately pours from his right ear.
http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/06/arrested.html
I am grateful to Eleni for this very good John Helmer article about what is going on with Libya between all of the global power brokers and surrogate death pawns they pay and equip.
IN LIBYA, TURKEY HASN’T WON YET; RUSSIA HASN’T LOST YET; THE US AND ITS PROTECTORATE OF GREECE, CYPRUS AND ISRAEL ARE LOSING EVERYTHING
http://JOHNHELMER.NET/IN-LIBYA-TURKEY-HASNT-WON-YET-RUSSIA-HASNT-LOST-YET-THE-US-AND-ITS-PROTECTORATE-OF-GREECE-CYPRUS-AND-ISRAEL-ARE-LOSING-EVERYTHING/Yes, that knee-on-the-neck thing is an Israeli move, practiced daily on the rightful citizens of the land they stole, and whom they hold as prisoners and punching bags. Thanks Eleni.
Israeli forces trained Minneapolis cops in brutal ‘restraint techniques’ at US conference
At least 100 Minnesota police officers attended a 2012 conference hosted by Israel’s Chicago consulate, the second time such an event had been held. There, they learned the violent techniques used by Israeli forces as they terrorize the occupied Palestinian territories under the guise of security operations. The so-called counterterrorism training conference in Minneapolis was jointly hosted by the FBI…
https://www.sott.net/article/435748-Israeli-forces-trained-Minneapolis-cops-in-brutal-restraint-techniques-at-US-conferenceI don’t know, John Day, I’ve fallen like that in the past and couldn’t prevent the back of my head from hitting the ground, before instinctively raising my head off the ground. A local news article from Buffalo today says the guy is still in the hospital.
Protester injured in Niagara Square still hospitalized
The 75-year-old man who was injured when shoved by Buffalo Police officers during a protest in Niagara Square last week is still in the hospital recovering.
Updated: 4:31 PM EDT June 8, 2020
https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/protester-injured-injured-in-niagara-square-still-hospitalized-buffalo-new-york/71-7a8c4179-8d88-4c99-88ae-86430bea468aArttus:
I have been in Cuba and my brother has been in Vietnam.
Cuba Is a mess! The only part of Cuba that works is the tourism industry run by western hotel chains.
Vietnam has a capitalistic economy and is doing much better than Cuba.
I have also worked in Russia and Serbia back in the 1970s and 1980s.
Russia was truly a nightmare! Russia didn’t function period! A total police state! KGB everywhere! I crossed swords with them more than once! Today communists are outlawed in Russia!
Serbia allowed some private enterprises so was at least somewhat functional. There are no communist left in Serbia today!
So, I know a few things about how communism doesn’t work! Seen it first hand!
John Day:
Interesting read on Libya.
I worked in Morroco in the late 1970s and Jordan in early 1980s. My brother worked in Libya for Westinghouse back in the early 1980s.
So much for living in the Sarhara Desert! That dam dust getting into everything! Bloody cold at night too! Then dam mud during the rainy season!
Libya, even when left alone, is a mess for sure!
If it wasn’t for the oil, nobody would go there!
Lovely screed Dr D.. amen to all of it.
I visited my GP today for the first time in ages. Sat in the waiting room amidst the remnants of Covid fear-porn posters and the handwashing/distancing theatre. Was very relieved when it became apparent that despite compliance with the official theatre, my GP was a skeptical as I am. We agreed that Covid is primarily compressing a years worth of mortality in susceptible people into a shorter period. And that “eliminating the virus” was always an idiotic goal. So now NZ is going to remain isolated from the world forever? Or hold out for the second coming of a 100% effective vaccine? He observed that we’re unable to have any rational discussion because that must necessarily invoke the spectre of death which our societies and many (most?) individuals within them are simply unable to do.
Yesterday I attended the funeral of work colleague (cancer, 59). He was incredibly talented and well-liked – huge IQ, humble demeanor and great interpersonal warmth. In a normal scenario his funeral would’ve packed out a large venue, and would’ve been a social outpouring that reflected his especially talented life. But under NZ’s Covid-2 restrictions the maximum gathering allowed was 100 people, so they family in their time of grief had to pick and choose a guest list of 100. The Level 2 restrictions were then dropped at 5pm yesterday, so he obviously timed his death poorly.
Each and every one of the OTT cotton-wool interventions has a cost, not only to the economy, but to the social fabric and to the dignity of people within it. Yay NZ – eliminated the virus! *gag reflex*I’m still looking at excess deaths for clues about what’s really going on.. In today’s news, “Sweden records first week with no excess mortality since pandemic struck.” But “the deaths might still be revised up to show a slight excess mortality.”
Excess deaths for New Zealand are shown on the lower half of this page, in a graph titled “NZ death registrations by week (all causes).” It looks like the worst of the NZ excess death numbers (above the 5-year average) occurred before the lockdown began on March 25, but the weekly deaths during 2020 still didn’t extend past the 5-year range by much (if at all).
Doc R – if you look closely at the excess deaths over the Feb/Mar period of 8 weeks there appears to be average of 100 excess deaths per week over that period. So, say 800-ish total, give or take.
Given there were only 22 recorded deaths attributed to Covid in NZ *in total*, I suggest Dr D’s pithy remarks re the impossibility of inferring anything meaningful at all from these stats applies in spades.“Some people just don’t care about credibility, and neither does the Nobel committee. What utter nonsense.”
Ilargi – given the guy’s a Nodel Laureat, perhaps you could go further than your own highly confirmed and tripled-down on prejudices and state for us precisely the flaws you find in his modelling?Huskynut, I’d say that the cause of death numbers can be gamed more easily than the excess death numbers. If NZ says there were only 22 deaths from Covid-19, but there were 800 excess deaths recorded during that period, then it could indicate some undercounting. But as I mentioned earlier, the NZ weekly deaths during 2020 still didn’t extend past the 5-year range by much (if at all), and seeing this can add some perspective to the situation. So I’m not ready to ditch all the stats.
I hear you about the economic and social impacts of the lockdown. I can’t argue that it was worth it. I admit that I don’t know what approach would be best.
So, if I can smell someone’s cologne instantly through a mask, how good are viruses, which are far smaller? Masks then do NOT work in NYC – AT ALL —
I am not sure that this passes the smell test. As I understand it, the esters that make up most aromas in cologne are low molecular weight compounds that do not need to hitch a ride in a water droplet. It takes a few molecules to register a smell. In contrast, SARS-Cov-2 is transmitted primarily by droplets, with thousands or millions of viruses packed in a single droplet. There was some speculation that SARS-Cov-2 might be aerosolized, and it might be possible, but is certainly not the main route of transmission. For an infection to take place, dosage is important, and it is doubtful whether just a single virus particle can cause disease. In any event, it is common ground in the medical community that masks work best when work by the (asymptomatic) infected person to reduce the volume of droplet transmission in the immediate vicinity. Is there a single medical profession who will deny this?
So now NZ is going to remain isolated from the world forever? Or hold out for the second coming of a 100% effective vaccine?
Thjs strikes me as a false dichotomy. A third option could be to wait and see if the virus continues to weaken in its virulence even after the cold weather returns, and then reopen the border if that trend continues, which it may. A fourth option could be to reopen the border with other countries that successfully contain the spread. A fifth option could be to wait until there is more research on how to effectively treat symptoms (not talking about a vaccine or a cure, but just a better way to manage the disease). The point is that NZ now has choices that many other countries do not.
Boogaloo – thanks, your points are true and well observed.
I would counter that elimination is not a prerequisite to any of those strategies, and that releasing the knee from the throat of the virus before it succumbed to elimination would have been essentially as effective, with lower social and economic cost. What NZ did wasn’t bad. It was just very, very expensive for the sake of reaching the remote end of the long tail.
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