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    Claude Monet Le Grand Canal et Santa Maria della Salute 1908 • Israel Bombs Iranian Regime After Terrorist Strikes (Catherine Salgado) • Israel Strike
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 8 2026]

    #242256
    tboc
    Participant

    “Of course, Iran killed, 60,000 rebels who supported the US and tried to overthrow the Iraq gov.” – zerosum 6/07/2026

    Desert Storm I, Afghaninsitan, Desert Storm II, Libya, Syria, Palestine since 1948 and you are playing the morality card? Get- Out- Of- Town

    #242257
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #242258
    tboc
    Participant

    Elon Musk: “The Democratic Party in the US and the left in Europe realized that if you have open borders and you provide a ton of government handouts… and you don’t prosecute them for crime, they will vote for you.”

    speaking about the Republican Party before the Clintons? When corruption and theft became an open source project?

    #242259
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    In the Land of Thucydides
    By John J. Mearsheimer
    John’s Substack
    June 8, 2026

    I gave a lecture in Athens on 2 June 2026 that was hosted by two prestigious Greek organizations: the Council for International Relations and the Institute of International Relations. I was asked to speak about why I think Realism explains contemporary geopolitical developments better than any other theory. I was fully aware that I was speaking in the home of Thucydides, the first great realist thinker.

    In the Land of Thucydides

    #242260
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    The PENTAGON acknowledged the Destruction of an ELITE group of British and German soldiers by RUSSIA

    #242261
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Live in 44 minutes
    June 8 at 9:30 AM
    Alastair Crooke : Ceasefire for All or Ceasefire for No One

    #242262
    tboc
    Participant

    Born in Florida and native to the northern region for 75 years i have lived among racists my entire life. There was not coercion that induced the racism but there was abundant coercion to be racist and toe the line. I was in the 9th grade at the home of social engineering when the first black student came to campus in 1966. I know what happened to Michael Donald in 1981.

    When, in 1968, i had spent the early evening in a certain cafe on Hollywood Blvd. and the balance “up the country” i was told “just don’t let anyone know”. The reason? I lived among bible totin christian racists and knew of the Klan. better to know about the Klan than to have the Klan know about you

    Having made a few forays into Yankeeland i know that there is a special brand of racism there, broad spectrum like glyphosate.

    I remember when Marlin Perkins, on national teevee, denigrated a people in Africa because when they got lawnmowers they cut figures into the grass as they worked rather than do the tighty whitey back an forth.

    What all of these knee jerk whiners are experiencing is the equal and opposite reaction
    three things for the knotted thong jerk offs
    1. “Hey, you know something people? I’m not black, But there’s a whole lots a timesI wish I could say I’m not white” Freakout
    2. The wages of sin is death.
    3. You broke, you own it.

    Ah! Look at the moral people killing children in the name of their god, profit. Please pause just long enough on your journey to deliver a well placed kiss and then continue your way along the broad road.

    #242265
    those darned kids
    Participant

    too much trumpterbation will make you go blind..

    #242266
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #242267
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #242268
    those darned kids
    Participant

    <risky comment>a certain government somewhere on this planet is cutting off aid to a certain population oppressed by the aforementioned certain government.</risky comment>

    #242270
    zerosum
    Participant

    Auto translated:

    A statement issued by the Yemeni Armed Forces

    In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate

    Allah says: “O you who believe! If you support Allah, He will support you and make your feet firm.” Truth be to Allah, the Almighty

    In the context of confronting the American and Zionist aggression against the axis of jihad and resistance in Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, and Yemen, and rejecting the Zionist project aimed at establishing a “Greater Israel” under the guise of the “New Middle East”, and in an effort to break the unjust and oppressive siege imposed by the American enemy on our people and the free and honorable axis in Lebanon, Gaza, and Iran, and in the framework of the principle of unity of fronts and confronting enemies, and in response to the Zionist aggression against Lebanon, Iran, and Gaza, the Yemeni Armed Forces launched a missile strike targeting sensitive targets of the Israeli enemy in the occupied region of Jaffa, and achieved their objectives with precision, thanks to Allah.

    In this context, the Armed Forces emphasize the following:

    Firstly: We announce a complete and total ban on maritime navigation for the Israeli enemy in the Red Sea, and we consider all the enemy’s movements to be military targets for our armed forces from the moment of the announcement of this statement.

    Secondly: We confirm that we will confront escalation with escalation, and that our military operations will be escalating in line with the events, the battle, and the participation with the axis of jihad and resistance.

    Thirdly: We affirm the right of our people and the peoples of our free nation to confront the American-Israeli aggression, and that we will not stand idly by in the face of the unjust siege on our people and the peoples of the axis of jihad and resistance in Palestine, Gaza, Iran, Lebanon, and Iraq. All the enemy’s attempts will fail by Allah’s permission, and our operations will continue as long as the aggression and siege against us and the axis of jihad and resistance continue.

    Allah is our helper, and He is the Best Guardian, the Best Master, and the Best Supporter.

    Long live Yemen free, proud, and independent,And victory to Yemen and all the free people of the nation.

    Sana’a, the 22nd of Dhu al-Hijja 1447 AH
    Corresponding to June 8, 2026 AD

    Issued by the Yemeni Armed Forces

    https://t.me/army21ye/3537

    Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 8 2026 6:14 utc | 221
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    #242271
    zerosum
    Participant

    I’m not.
    It’s the US reporting to me sitting in my recliner.
    … playing the morality card?

    It’s not even, Pot calling the kettle black.
    It’s the pot admitting that it’s black.
    🙂

    “Of course, Iran killed, 60,000 rebels who supported the US and tried to overthrow the Iraq gov.” – zerosum 6/07/2026

    Desert Storm I, Afghaninsitan, Desert Storm II, Libya, Syria, Palestine since 1948 and you are playing the morality card? Get- Out- Of- Town

    #242272
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #242273
    zerosum
    Participant

    Israel bombs Beirut to test Iran’s resolve – Iran responds, as expected! The start of a new full-scale war between USrael and Iran?
    Ismaele
    Jun 07, 2026

    https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/israel-bombs-beirut-to-test-irans

    —————–
    https://geopolitiq.substack.com/notes

    P.S.: In a last-minute update, before publishing, Channel 12 has just reported that…

    Israel will not respond to the Iranian attack. [source: MES]

    UPDATE (08/06/2026 6:39 CEST): Overnight Israel attacked Iran, triggering Iranian response earlier this morning and also a Yemeni missile attack (see MES and my notes). I will provide a more detailed update tonight.

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    #242274
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Best this morning

    #242275
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Good
    Ray McGovern : Putin’s View of Europe and Ukraine; plus a Sad Anniversary

    #242276
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Iran takes its chances with war
    Contact us: info@strategic-culture.su

    The U.S. war with Iran has moved beyond its initial phase to an emerging new one — one in which Iran implicitly stakes its chances on the next phase being war. Most likely this will be in abbreviated episodes of limited war, but possessing nevertheless a potential to widen regionally, should the U.S. (and Israel) elect to sharply escalate.

    The new phase involves risk of course, yet Iran holds the high cards of an ability to impose disproportionately heavier damage upon Gulf infrastructure as retaliation for any hurt inflicted upon it — and the awareness that the West is edging ever closer to dropping off the energy ‘cliff’.

    The three pillars underlying this shift are firstly, confidence that Iran will not (and cannot) be shifted from its hold over Hormuz, and that in consolidating its administrative structures there, the reality of Iran’s hold over Hormuz will increasingly be assimilated by states, and reflected in their coming to terms with Iranian-Omani control.

    Associated with this core principle is Iran’s implementation of escalated deterrence vis á vis the American naval blockade. Any attempt to intercept or attack Iranian vessels or interfere with the Strait’s administration will be met with increasingly harsher ripostes. Ultimately this policy may lead to Iran imposing increasing levels of damage to U.S. naval vessels – another friction point.

    On 3 June, for example, the U.S. fired a hellfire missile at an Iranian oil tanker near the Strait of Hormuz. In response, a U.S.-owned (or partly-owned) ship, The Panaya, was struck with missiles. Additionally Iran launched three waves of cruise missiles at the U.S. air and helicopter base in Kuwait from where the attack had originated. Images have emerged of serious damage at Kuwait international airport too (although the cause of the damage remains disputed).

    The second underlying principle affecting this shift simply reflects Iranian disdain for Trump’s continuous inflating of demands, exaggerated threats (which palpably fall short of U.S. capacities), together with his continual zigzagging and contemptuous rhetoric towards Iran.

    The Iranian leadership has concluded, it seems, that compromise will likely not be forthcoming, and that it is better to cut the ‘negotiations’ rather “than continue the pointless bad-faith negotiations with a deceitful and decrepit American regime”, as the New York Times has termed the Iran ‘negotiations’ — suggesting that the ‘deal chaos’ is not a singular glitch by Trump confined to the Iran issue, but rather is a consistent pattern of dysfunctionality repeating itself across virtually all of Trump’s ‘peace’ initiatives.

    Behind Iran’s decision to suspend talks however, likely lies the gradually dawning clarity, seeping out from Israeli and American statements and analysis, that the true objective of the 28 February U.S.-Israeli sneak attack was never regime change per se — aiming to swap out Iranian ‘hardliners’ for a ‘Delcy Rodrigues’-style more moderate leader; but was intended rather, to bring about Iran’s complete destruction and fracturing — an insight that was bound to shift Iran’s calculus.

    This insight has consolidated public support for the Islamic Republic hugely, and at the same time has turned the war into an existential struggle to preserve the ethical values of the Revolution. Seen from this optic, there is little for Iran to discuss with Trump, bar some future modus vivendi — as and when, Washington understands that it is boxed in, and that new realism takes a hold.

    The third principle undergirding this new phase of conflict is the one enunciated by Iran from the outset of the Islamabad talks: ‘Ceasefire for all; or ceasefire for no one’. This was again re-emphasised in Iran’s latest ultimatum to Trump: ‘If the Israeli threats from last week to flatten the Beirut southern suburb of Dahiyeh had been executed, then Iran would have stricken northern Israel hard with its missiles. ‘It was a ceasefire for all – or no ceasefire’.

    Trump chose the ceasefire, and subsequent to his call with Netanyahu, announced that it was in effect. He told Netanyahu to cancel his planned bombing of Dahiyeh in south Beirut. In Israel, a massive wave of anger from all sides of the political spectrum attacked Netanyahu at the very notion of curbing any Israeli attacks in Lebanon. Former PM Naftali Bennett accused Netanyahu of ‘losing control over Israeli sovereignty’. And former PM Yair Lapid said Israel had been reduced to a “vassal state” after the strikes were called off.

    The U.S. and Israel for some months have been attempting to bring a segment of leaders in Lebanon to accept the task of disarming Hizbullah, as Rubio explained, “so Israel doesn’t have to do it” — something Lebanese leaders clearly cannot do.

    Israel has no coherent Lebanon strategy. Former senior Israeli military intelligence officer, Danny Citrinowicz, outlines a new strategic “Iranian achievement”:

    “Tehran has effectively succeeded in linking the Lebanese front to the broader Iranian-Israeli arena. Any escalation in Lebanon is now increasingly viewed through the prism of the U.S.-Iran dynamic”.

    Nevertheless, he observes:

    “The situation in Lebanon remains highly unstable. Israel and Hezbollah continue to interpret the current understandings in fundamentally different ways. [Whilst] Israel maintains that it retains freedom of action across Lebanon except Beirut, Hezbollah [on the other hand] insists that any Israeli military activity – at all – violates the ceasefire framework. These competing interpretations create significant potential for renewed friction and escalation on the ground”.

    In Israel, the situation in northern towns remains neuralgic for nearly all Israelis. Many towns along the Lebanon border and down into the Galilee are half-empty — “entire swaths of land abandoned by [the] government”, writes Ben Caspit. Local politicians claim that they ‘are Israelis too’ and that the government must respond.

    Lebanon is certain to remain a point of contention. It is not a matter of if, but when, the next crisis will strike. Israel will not let the matter stand — even Liberal opposition leaders demand Hizbullah’s destruction and protest Trump’s tying of Netanyahu’s hands in Lebanon.

    Iran will not let matters stand either. Mediators have informed the Americans that Iran considers an end to the war on Lebanon, withdrawal of Israeli forces, and a withdrawal from Hormuz, to be binding conditions — before discussing other issues.

    So, here we are. The military skirmishes — effectively an abbreviated series of strikes by U.S. forces on Iranian shipping and Strait infrastructure, arising from Trump’s desire to assert its naval blockade to U.S. public opinion — continue. This situation is clearly flammable – just as is the Lebanon context.

    Iran effectively is acknowledging the reality that in this new phase — with so many inherent flash points to it — American military escalation at some point likely will become a political necessity for Trump’s domestic and Jewish financers’ needs.

    And the negotiations? They will go nowhere so long as Israel and the U.S. Jewish billionaire donors reject any Iran outcome that leaves Iran both intact and stronger and — pari passu in this binary thinking — the ‘Israel First’ project within the U.S. and the region correspondingly weakened.

    A deal that doesn’t see Iran irretrievably weakened will be condemned by these latter forces as a ‘treasonous dereliction’ by Trump. He will be attacked mercilessly. Yet, he must see that Iran is anyway on the cusp of throwing off the U.S. shackles.

    This phase of the Iranian conflict likely will only end when the West falls off the approaching economic cliff …

    Iran takes its chances with war

    #242277
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    MIDDLE EAST IN DEPTH W/LAITH MAROUF – IRAN STRIKES & SAYS “FULLY PREPARED FOR PROLONGED WAR”

    #242278
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Seyed M. Marandi: Iran-Israel Strikes, Trump Humiliated & Yemen Restricts Red Sea Access

    #242279
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) introduce and motivate his amendment nullifying Section 224 of the National Defense Appropriations Act (NDAA); Section 224, if passed, will fuse together the military-industrial complexes of the United States and Israel, into a single war preparation machine.
    https://eir.news/2026/06/news/lessons-of-the-hubris-of-the-colonial-powers/

    #242280
    zerosum
    Participant

    Bathroom break.
    June 8, 2026
    War On Iran: – Iran Will Respond To Ceasefire Breaches Wherever Those Are

    War On Iran: – Iran Will Respond To Ceasefire Breaches Wherever Those Are

    “He won’t have any choice,” Trump told the FT in a telephone interview. “I call the shots. I call all the shots. He [Netanyahu] doesn’t call the shots.”

    A bit later Israel aircraft bombed targets in Iran with stand of missiles. Among the targets were oil installations at the Karun petrochemical complex. Other targets were radar stations.

    Iran responded by launching missiles against two additional air bases in central Israel while missiles from Lebanon hit at Israeli oil installations in Haifa.

    Ansarullah in Yemen joined in. It announced that all Israel related shipping will be blocked from the Red Sea and fired some of its own missiles against Israel proper.

    Both sides of the conflict then concluded the fight. The skirmish is, for now, over.

    The statement announced a halt to Iranian military operations but warned that further Israeli actions would prompt a significantly stronger reaction. “It is emphasized that if the aggression continues, including in southern Lebanon, much more severe and painful measures will follow,” the statement said.

    #242281
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #242299
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Robert Barnes: The Iranian Navy announces it targeted a U.S. warship in the Sea of Oman

    #242301
    WES
    Participant

    Good to see that the City of London/Globalists’ view of the world, prevails!

    Iran and Ukraine, are both still winning biggly against the US and Russia, respectively.

    Trump is still and idiot!

    Everything is going to plan in UK and Europe!

    Democratic states are still blue and turning bluer!

    Everything is going great!

    It is easier to destroy things, than to build anything!

    #242304
    zerosum
    Participant

    Israel conquest
    Meanwhile, the “Israelis” have nearly completed their takeover of the US military with Section 224 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for 2027 about to sail through Congress after Massie and Rho Khanna tried to strip it out. But there’s more coming from the Senate which is doing something similar via the FY27 Intel Authorization bill which will make US intelligence sharing with Israel mandatory. The bill in question is S-4615, introduced on May 20th by leading Israel Firster Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas.

    But sure. “Israel” is merely a proxy of the United States Empire. It’s just that simple.

    Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 8 2026 20:13 utc | 70

    #242305
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    For WES and D

    #242306
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Richard Wolff: Petrodollar DEAD as Iran War BURIES US Empire, Trump in DENIAL”

    Never tired of being wrong. Epically, galactically wrong, the US$ is still the largest use, most widely accepted currency on the planet. Absolutely unchanged from the war. So if there is ANY reserve currency, Petrodollar, it is DEFINITELY the United States. Now is it used slightly yes each year? Yes. For like 25 years, nothing new.

    “Iran war Buries US Empire” Oh good, that means Trump is WINNING. We are TRYING to stop being an Empire, the proxy of the former British Empire. Thanks Rich! I love Trump too! I know you’re going to be just as happy and full of joy and victory knowing the Empire is ended as I am. Right Buddy? Right??

    #3: Internal Emotional state of Trump. They think of nothing else from daybreak to shuteye. Trump is their God. There are no nations but the United States, and no humans on earth but The Donald. Wolff thinks of nothing but Donald all day so his wife must feed him with a spoon making helicopter sounds

    Rooooskies
    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/A6aDMMBL2vgpok8abY628k.jpg

    I’m glad Wolff is so homosexually inside Trump’s butt that he thinks of nothing but Trump like a Groupie and begs Trump to grab him by the P-ssy each day.

    Wolff is about the only guy so utterly wrong on really obvious facts, like the function of the gold and bond market, etc, that I actually wrote to one of his interviewers warning him that Wolff is a moron, may as well be an impersonator, some actor right out of High School, knowing and seeing nothing. It’s actually quite astounding, as he’s old enough to actually know very obvious, basic things like that and just be a plausible shill like the others.

    Let me go the other way on this, courtesy of Jim Willie. Empire is ending, right? Last year, two years, there were rumors that there were “Union Strikes” at our ports really bc China wasn’t taking our Bonds. And rightfully so! That’s what “Empire” is. That what you might call Seigniorage, tribute, as we print overvalued money. So? How do you stop it?

    Well the Social engineers say that we HAVE TO get into a world war…with everybody. (Meiershimer demands this with his lecture on Thylessidities — which is false btw.) And Hillary Clinton vowed on Satan’s Bible to do that first day. That’s the ONLY choice, just as Wolff, Davis, the Alexes, etc all say “We have no choice but to escalate in Russia and Iran, kill millions of men occupying each nation forever and evah.“. Oh. Wait. We didn’t. Nothing happened. No one cared. At all. Turns out TINA, Mrs. “There is No Alternative” is there are EVERY alternative if no one on the planet even notices when you don’t.

    So we’re not going to “Do What You’re TOLD!!!”. So what IS the alternative?

    Not Empire. Duhhhhhh.

    And that means what? A: WE HAVE TO PAY FAIR VALUE. Yay! Wolff and Sachs will be gutted, call it the worst evah! Evah Evah! But I won’t. Fair people and nations are SUPPOSED to pay fair price. Because that’s what keeps everything stable. NOT paying fair price means someone has to attack eventually and Make You, which is stupid and more costly than just paying voluntarily.

    Buuuut…… The U.S. doesn’t make anything. I mean, we will, but not yet, tariffs, business and banking changes only started manufacturing like 6 months ago. What now?

    Well, if only we had a ton of OIL, we could trade China fairly, couldn’t we? Like for like. End of Empire forever. And end of trouble, of outsized militaries, forever. Thank God. We make a deal to be China’s bluewater Navy which theirs isn’t ready yet (and is also expensive, why bother?) and secure THEIR oil worldwide at stable prices. We keep our end, they don’t HAVE to cause trouble with rare earths, Fentanyl, and other hearty-har jokes killin’ millions o’ folks like that. They agreed and we are testing each other presently. So far we are keeping our word, such as it is. Yes maybe China taking over Venezuela instead would have been better for them, but they have no means of power projection into our backyard and it’s expensive, risky, and dumb, which is exactly what everyone tells us, the United States all the time. Also Evil, which is debatable, depending how it’s done, but sure, 80-90% of the time.

    So there you are. IS the U.S. Petrodollar going? Yes. We double-crossed Saudi Years ago, with Kashoggi and Vegas, I think, and they edged away since then, so did we, pumping (or trying to) and building refineries. That was like 2017. Fine. Since 1971 We always intended to double-cross and collapse them with all our force and flip to running IRAN as our puppet, as set up by Obama and London. That we did NOT do that says something about Trump’s relationship to Saudi and NOT betraying people as planned. …No wonder they assassinate him weekly.

    Anyway, Saudi only edged away slowly, as did China (Operation Twist out of our housing bond collapse). Neither did the nuke as promised, to keep us fearful, and be the Pearl Harbor we could pin the blame on, and as we found out that nuclear option for the US Bond market wouldn’t have worked at all. Nada.

    So the US$ remains the primary currency, but cannot function without a trade deficit (Arcana, Triffin’s Paradox, etc, look it up). That means US Industry HAS TO collapse and can NOT recover, with a balanced budget. Huh? No. We undo it all slowly, just like we got into it. The US$ goes back to being just one of many currencies, same as the Gold Standard, same as McKinley as Trump says. So yes, it’s “going away”. With Empire. And we’re doing fair trade, like with like.

    But there’s no need for any wars, and no need for any collapses. You just put the gold foundation back under the US$, by exactly the same process as it was removed.

    So our pumping oil into Chinese ships ALSO means the war is over. We are being fair, so why nuke each other? We don’t WANT to be an army, we don’t WANT to be an Empire, and never have, it’s had to been done over our dead bodies here at home, so f—k y’all. Later, part two, if no one needs us, we can decom the ships and each nation can regionally patrol their own d—n seas, even as we keep hold of “Cuba” and “Venezuela” as the Gibraltar pillars covering the Gulf of Mexico. That’s decades further on. We gotta clear 2027 first.

    “Chas Freeman: The Greater Israel Project Is Collapsing” — Glenn Diesen

    Yay! As I say every day. Freeman and Sachs will be super sad about this and call it a failure, while the rest of us normal people are glad. That’s because they’re goosestepping maniacs who would die for Globalism and Empire. I want to just be a country, and when at last “only some tiny country” Israel is obviously going to be bombed to s—t with their actions. Good. That’s what’s supposed to happen. Be nice and don’t shoot at your neighbors then. Dopes. None of my business; I hope they get bombed into the stone age until they learn their lesson. I don’t take sides in Cambodia or Ivory Coast either. None of my business.

    And it’s Trump who has arranged and facilitated all this, so I know they’re going to love him lots and call him a national hero, right? No one else has got Israel to take their medicine in 80 years. …Nah, I’m not going to click on it. I’ve wasted years of my short, valuable life on utter rubbish like this.

    “Angry Pentagon Sources Leak Report Of Israel’s ‘Unhinged’ Spying On US Officials

    Like so. Once again, narrative flipped. Israel losing power over the U.S. This is happening under Trump, slowly, methodically, ‘safely’. #Winning. Biden built them a $25M dock that blew up and killed people. I guess everyone wants that better.

    Iran Fires Missiles At Israel In First Since April, After IDF Airstrike On Beirut; Trump Urges Israel To Hold Back

    Again, as it unfolds. As Cheeto said, Iran has managed to assemble a few more missiles by now, no surprise. And Israel is bombing them back.

    What makes you think this isn’t FOR the purpose of raising the price of oil? Because there are no traitors, moles, and agents in Israel either? MI6 calls their assets and reminds them of their blackmail files, some 1-Star general then uses his power, or a dozen of them, to force a bombing on Iran that makes Trump look bad. Nutsy can’t stand up and say “I have no control over my own cabinet and military” although we already know that’s true, and it’s true in the U.S. (or was 2016-2020) and is true in very many other states worldwide. Rinse, repeat. Now London gets to insider trade on that and get some of their Trump Twitter money back.

    They are all jerks and psychos, which is why this is expected. But note what it isn’t: not a “real” military attack in that way. It’s “real” but it’s a type of signal as well. Signal to move markets, signal to dethrone Trump for the midterms, not a bombing of anything in Iran, or any military missile launcher on the ground, really.

    At the moment this is my presumption, until shown otherwise. They are play-fighting.

    Where is the division? I think Nutsy would love to bomb Iran, just as seen, but is showing restraint bc of his terrible situation. However, his generals are well aware of his real inclinations and know if they bomb he won’t be mad enough to remove him but just make a show. “Nah. I been chewed out before.” That still is his and Israel’s fault, but with more granularity.

    Other news: Platner is the perfect candidate, the perfect trap, almost as if created and pushed by Republicans to ruin and expose Democrats. Yeah, too perfect. Kayfabe. But hey, if you can’t get rid of him with a real person, that’s not on me.

    The arrested CIA guy apparently was running A WHOLE DEPARTMENT with top secret compartmentalization. Uhhh…oversight much? And he lied about all the other stuff to get there too? We had his resume, where he was Jack Ryan + Maverick made up, apparently he got a 2nd pension or goosed his pension with the Navy by lying about that too. I’m really missing out! Apparently you just “Make S—t Up” and the government gives you buckets of gold bars! We need to ask Phoenix about how that’s working down at her level. She just lies and says she’s an ex-Senator or has 37 kids and they cut the SNAP checks for her, right?

    No? Fraud is only okay and unchecked when inside government?

    “The new phase involves risk of course, yet Iran holds the high cards of an ability to impose disproportionately heavier damage upon Gulf infrastructure as retaliation for any hurt inflicted upon it”

    Someday, in the far distant future, Iran may possibly shoot back, a little, if the creek don’t rise. But today DURING the war, they are not shooting at all, ‘cauz they’re super-nice guys and tricky like that.

    “the reality of Iran’s hold over Hormuz will increasingly be assimilated by states, and reflected in their coming to terms with Iranian-Omani control.”

    Oman is now running the straits you say. …They nation you invaded, occupy still, and covered in mines? Okay, if you’re best pals, sign over the whole straits to Oman for a few days and let’s see what happens. I suspect you’re on very, very different pages. Opposite sides even.

    But fun to just keep redefining everything all the time until you can re-define what “Win” is.

    “Any attempt to intercept or attack Iranian vessels or interfere with the Strait’s administration will be met with increasingly harsher ripostes.”

    Which they’ve proven by doing nothing for 100 days. But they meant to do that; they were just joking when they sent 4,000 objects at the Lincoln and didn’t hit it at all. They meant to hit nothing. That’s why they were shooting in thy general direction.

    I totally believe the PRINCIPLE that they MEAN to enforce with this. Yes. And good on them. I am pointing out they lack the CAPACITY to execute 90% of the threats. They are a joke and Pennsylvania deer hunters could finish them off, although they are mostly over 60 now.

    “Trump chose the ceasefire, and subsequent to his call with Netanyahu, announced that it was in effect.”

    This is entirely true. Israel predictably ignored it (after small shows). Trump then read them the riot act and they ignored that too, just as predictably, and continued and/or escalated. Okay, everyone knows, and perhaps we have to demonstrate that this is the case.

    “He won’t have any choice,” Trump told the FT in a telephone interview. “I call the shots. I call all the shots. He [Netanyahu] doesn’t call the shots.” Uh-huh.

    However: WHAT NOW? Now is the “OR Else”. Now you have to HIT, or HURT Israel badly, Donald, or it’s all just empty talk, isn’t it? You knew they would do this, everyone does. So now they broke the rules and you…need to shut off their cooperation with Pentagon satellites or something. Stop delivering defense missiles, whatever it is. If not, then what they say about you and Israel is true, isn’t it?

    SHOW ME. Or else what?

    “Robert Barnes: The Iranian Navy announces it targeted a U.S. warship in the Sea of Oman”

    Hilarious. There is no Iranian Navy, what are you talking about? Show me.

    Iran has an invisible everything-proof Navy, it’s just that you can’t see it from the air because they’re so stealthy.

    #242308
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Bob Moriarty on Oil & Food Shortages, Strait of Hormuz Risks & the IPO Bubble Warning

    #242309
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    D:
    Robert Barnes
    How can I show someone suffering from a blind spot?

    #242310
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    D,
    How can you trade fairly if what you are trading is stolen goods you have taken from criminal activity?

    The criminal U.S. and its criminal elites and criminal president

    Long Live Criminal America

    #242312
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    The Debt Bomb, Iran’s Nuclear Card & The End of Western Dominance — Bob Moriarty of 321gold

    #242313
    those darned kids
    Participant

    a true warrior for freedom!

    #242314
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #242318
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    For the first time in a long time, I found something edifying in the Debt Rattles. For all his character flaws, his failures to meet his core campaign promises, and his betrayal of those who got get him elected, I nevertheless applauded when President Trump walked out on Kristen Welker and called her out for her dishonesty. Bravo for that!

    #242319
    citizenx
    Participant

    For all his character flaws, his failures to meet his core campaign promises, and his betrayal of those who got get him elected, I nevertheless applauded when President Trump walked out on Kristen Welker and called her out for her dishonesty.

    Boogaloo

    You’re a fucking retard.

    Trump is honest?
    Trump is NOT dishonest in your cumguzzling retarded hypocritical broken brain?

    You applaud a child raping zionist pig lying to your face genocidal murdering scumbag… for calling SOMEONE else dishonest. The same disingenuous pos that just had a “hard hitting” interview of “journalism” on Fox news by his…. cunt whore zionist daughter in-law.

    Boogaloo, dude… you’re a motherfucking dishonest retarded piece of trash. Just like raul and the TAE…. Go fuck yourself with razor wire.

    Did you applaud trump for his interview on fox with his cunt whore dol for their “integrity and honesty”?

    Like i said the other week, you fucking retards here would deny being repeatedly punched in the face until knocked the fuck out… Dirt is more intelligent and discerning than you fucking tards.

    man, i thought libtards were bad… no wonder this nation is broken and gone.

    #242320
    citizenx
    Participant

    hahahahah, just saw this…

    Citizenx, enlighten us. What blogs/websites/ podcasts do you follow where you hold the hosts in high esteem? Where do you participate in the discussions praising the intelligence and analysis of the host and the other citizen commentators. Who, my friend, do you respect and show respect to?

    man you’re a fucking moron

    Who, my friend, do you respect and show respect to?

    truth and reality dumbass…

    What blogs/websites/ podcasts do you follow

    truth and reality dipshit….
    i don’t “follow” blogs, websites, or podcasts to find or discern objective truth

    Have you ever had on original creative thought in your brain at any time in your life? or are you just a “follower”?

    You really believe objective truth and reality is found on a trying to make money and gain followers website? Ever heard of life before the internet, before advertising dollars, before newspapers?

    Holy fuck people are stupid… and gullible, and brainwashed and propagandized…

    Something about Mark Twain and easily fooling people…but impossible to convince them the truth that they have been fooled. Bernays? Smedley Butler? Eisenhowers warning? MLK? Buddha? Lao tzu?
    Propaganda? Public relations? marketing? Amusing ourselves to death? 1984? Brave new world? Shamans? inner truth and inner peace?

    Wow…. nice try asshat. Fucking clown world retards.

    #242321
    citizenx
    Participant

    Spend a little time in pristine nature, with a quiet mind observing…

    ed abbey- kill your tv

    zen- if you meet budha on the road, kill him

    John Muir… get natures good tidings….

    Citizenx, enlighten us.

    Enlighten yourself dumb fuck… no one else will do it for you, and certainly not the internet or a fucking self promoting blog…

    You seek enlightenment on the web, from politicians and bloggers….?

    bwahahahahahaha Laughing Buddha.

    You wouldn’t know “enlightenment” if it punched you in the face….

    #242327
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    What was that? Reminds me of when the pomeranian spots the neighborhood doberman while out on a walk.

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