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    Vittorio Matteo Corcos Conversation in the Jardin du Luxembourg 1892   • Pfizer Begins Testing Its Covid Vaccine In Children Aged 5-11 (DM) • Mod
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 9 2021]

    #76942
    absolute galore
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    GMHB Genetically Modified Human Beings. From Wired uk:

    “While the world remains focused on the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines, the race for the next generation of mRNA vaccines – targeted at a variety of other diseases – is already exploding. Moderna and BioNTech each have nine candidates in development or early clinical trials. There are at least six mRNA vaccines against flu in the pipeline, and a similar number against HIV. Nipah, Zika, herpes, dengue, hepatitis and malaria have all been announced. The field sometimes resembles the early stage of a gold rush, as pharma giants snap up promising researchers for huge contracts – Sanofi recently paid $425 million (£307m) to partner with a small American mRNA biotech called Translate Bio, while GSK paid $294 million (£212m) to work with Germany’s CureVac.”

    The mRNA vaccine revolution is just beginning

    #76943
    absolute galore
    Participant

    From NYT: Covid Live Updates: Hospitalizations Rise in Less Vaccinated U.S. Areas

    Something seems weird with the figures, though. If 8% of covid cases were hospitalized, wouldn’t that overwhelm the system? And if you are doing the division based on early PCR test cycles, you would have many more “cases” , so the numbers would be diluted in the earlier figure and not comparable. Any doctors in the housecare to weigh in on this one? As long as Ivermectin remains effective, I will sit tight.

    “People who become ill with Covid-19 now are, “in most age groups, twice as likely to end up hospitalized as people who got the virus earlier in the course of the pandemic,” Dr. Delbridge said.

    In Maryland, of those between the ages of 50 and 59 who contracted Covid-19 over the winter, about 8 percent were hospitalized, he said. From the end of April through the beginning of June, the hospitalization rate in that group was 19 percent.

    Dangerous virus variants are likely to be to blame, Dr. Delbridge said. The variant first found in Britain, now known as Alpha, is deadlier and more contagious than most others and is now dominant in the United States. Last month, Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the variant, also known as B.1.1.7, made up 72 percent of U.S. cases at the time.

    But vaccines have proven to be effective against the Alpha variant. A spring surge that scientists had warned of largely failed to materialize in the United States.

    “I think we got lucky, to be honest,” Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at Yale University, told The New York Times last month. “We’re being rescued by the vaccine.”

    #76944
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Re my NYT post above: A cynic would say they are manipulating the numbers and using the variants to re-ignite fear and get more people to get vaccinated.

    #76945
    absolute galore
    Participant

    NYT is worried about the Alpha. But NPR and Fauci are touting the dangers of Delta. What happens when we run out of Greek letters?
    The Highly Contagious Delta Variant Is On The Rise In the U.S.

    #76946
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    #76947
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Raul, I’m with you. I see nothing but pure evil. The world has gone stark raving mad. The only logical explanation at this point is a highly coordinated psyop. Frightening, and oh so sad.

    I recently found this summary at the Bad Medicine website (dr-no.co.uk) that belongs to a retired medical doctor:

    “It is as well to remember that the engine of the pandemic, and the reaction to it, has been driven almost entirely by testing. Imagine for a moment no one had discovered SARS-CoV-2, and so no one was testing for it. We would have an unexpected and unusual (and it has to be said unexplained) rise in mortality last spring, and then a rather worse than usual bad flu winter this winter, but no worse than those going back twenty years or so. But no testing, no pandemic, no lockdowns, no masks, no vaccines, no authoritarianism, no ruined economy, no ruined education, no huge backlog of NHS elective and semi-urgent work, no ruined social fabric, not even one of them. Perhaps as well as being careful what we ask for, we should also be careful what we test for.”

    #76948
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Can somebody get me a .gif of Macron getting slapped? I could watch that all day.

    “Richest Americans pay almost no income taxes, Report Finds” –MSNBC What??? No kidding. That only took 100 years to figure out.

    P.S. MSNBC Top news story. Top above the fold: Bill Gates. And his farmland. …And his reputation.

    “McDonald’s french fries, carrots, onions: All of the foods that come from Bill Gates farmland” With “Bill Gates’ reputation could be clouded by reports about his personal life” Um, huh? what? why? A rich guy owns land? And this is your top top urgent news? That just happens to give you a tiny, tiny toe-hold to bring up and seed his (bad) reputation into the minds of readers again? Nothing to see here! Newspapers completely controlled by fellow billionaires always attack their own for no reason whatsoever, especially when there’s no actual event to report on! It doesn’t represent anything at all. They’re not throwing Billy to the wolves, and if they were, there’s no reason they’re so insecure they feel the need to. Because they’re winning!

    Same with Cuomo. Let me get this straight: the Democratic DoJ is investigating arguably the top Democratic Governor. For what will be high-profile murder. In the news, read by the rubes. Want to explain that to me? As Whitmer and Newsome are recalled-approved by Democratic judges, and California is now against gun control? Nobody’s out there. Nothing’s going on.

    “you don’t know which virus you’re going to get infected with down the road, which variant”

    And natural immunity covers them all. The vaccine clearly doesn’t, according to you. Natural immunity — if akin to SARS as expected — lasts for decades, while according to you, the vaccine won’t last 6 months. So tell me again what we’re doing?

    “Pfizer jab deadlier than AstraZeneca across Europe – leaked study”

    Oh, wow. Astra was banned in what, 7 nations?

    India: Anyone have any idea what the heck is going on here, with the vaccine that according-to-them-doesn’t-work, and why if-it-doesn’t-work, we’ll hammer and nail anyone who doesn’t take it, even if they’re naturally immune in 5 different ways? (Age, having got it, vitamin D, etc)

    Back again, 30,000 feet: so this is a bioweapon that doesn’t kill hardly anyone? Explain? And we’re MAD about that? And the vaccine ALSO appears not to kill anyone, or hardly more than the disease? But it DOES certainly, absolutely kill a similar 0.03%. Explain? We’re actively, vigorously, killing people with great determination for no reason whatsoever… but just a tiny, tiny number. Talk about sound and fury, signifying nothing… Can anyone come up with a theory why you would do this? In the hottest public light ever?

    On variants, Here’s a scenario: we know mRNA causes the disease to be MORE deadly after. 10 years of research, that was the constant problem, that’s why it was FDA denied. So the reason for advertising all the “variants”, which like evil bigots, they keep naming according nation, is NOT that they are dangerous. We’ve had a wide number of articles demonstrating they are neither worse nor more contagious. No, the reason to advertise them is that ALL Covid is more dangerous after a mRNA vaccine, but that would be embarrassing and throw light on the complete, long-term failure of the mRNA method. But if it’s the fault of the Oh noes!!! New, deadly variant, “now with double the fear!”™ Then nobody looks at the boring, predictable mRNA fail but blames the VARIANT. So any place that’s been strongly vaccinated is more strongly whacked by every “variant”…which is actually just plain old Covid.

    Because it’s just lies, all the way down.

    Because the people are deep-at-heart liars, all the way down.

    #76949
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Today’s edition of calling all the men “Buttercup.”

    Hey if we’re charging $10 TRILLION for only part-creation of a virus that kills no one, what would we charge for a virus that was as dangerous as the measles?

    …Or like how we paid and ordered to have it created, WE should pay the $10 Trillion due to our illogical, unnecessary, unscientific, and deadly RESPONSE to the non-dangerous virus?

    See how it’s lies all the way down?

    #76950
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    It is as well to remember that the engine of the pandemic, and the reaction to it, has been driven almost entirely by testing. Imagine for a moment no one had discovered SARS-CoV-2, and so no one was testing for it. We would have an unexpected and unusual (and it has to be said unexplained) rise in mortality last spring, and then a rather worse than usual bad flu winter this winter, but no worse than those going back twenty years or so. But no testing, no pandemic, no lockdowns, no masks, no vaccines, no authoritarianism, no ruined economy, no ruined education, no huge backlog of NHS elective and semi-urgent work, no ruined social fabric, not even one of them. Perhaps as well as being careful what we ask for, we should also be careful what we test for.

    Wise words that are nonetheless obviated by the apparent fact that somebody wanted at least some if not all of those consequences. I’m really trying not to think that the virus was deliberately released by these parties, but the timing of it, shortly after the likely peak of total liquid fossil-fuel production and after the repo-markets started choking and puking, and just in time for the US 2020 election, just seems so cussedly convenient.

    #76951
    John Day
    Participant

    @SeaBirds: Thanks for the kind words. I really do want to help us all work this problem out.

    #76952
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Keeping the ego under a frugal regime is a lost practice, so lost as knowing how to naturally select proper from poisonous food; yet other animals have it – why did humans lost it? Did they ever had it?

    #76954
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    This covid mRNA vaccination of kids is tremendously disturbing. I’d come to terms with adults deciding (even without full informed consent) that they want to risk death/disability by getting the injection, but if it becomes mandatory for children to have the vaccine to attend school most parents will be forced to vaccinate their children since they will be unable to “home school” to avoid it. Especially parents who are not in the top 10%, income wise, where both parents have to work. Worse, if they release flu vaccines using mRNA technology children will be getting vaccinated multiple times with a dangerous substance. Serious question … how do us lowly know-nothings fight something that is this corrupt and powerful?

    #76955
    John Day
    Participant

    @Dr.D: Yep, I read you.
    Build Me Up Buttercup is a song that can run through my mind on bike rides, and mowing the homestead. This particular recording is presented in the same glorious monophonic that the single was released in and which popped up to the top tier of the American Top 40

    #76956
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Here’s an amazing article all over. Total, groveling puff-piece of how awesome mRNA is, revolutionary thinkers find zero drawbacks, 100% win!!! All Hail Great Church of Progress!!! Progress be Praised (Peace be upon him)!

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/mrna-vaccine-revolution-katalin-kariko

    Um, I know journalists are completely illiterate and have an unhinged terror of math, but here are some quotes:

    ““immunologically, this is a near-perfect vaccine.”
    ““When they write the history of vaccines, this will probably be a turning point,”
    He is technically correct. The world is really, really going to turn on this.

    The body violently rejects RNA from outside sources – probably to avoid being hijacked by viruses and other pathogens – and often the RNA proved so toxic that it killed the lab animals it was tested on. “We couldn’t dream of using it on humans,” Karikó says.

    “Even in lockdown, Karikó is one of the nerve centres of the mRNA world. From her home outside Philadelphia she advises BioNTech’s scientists in Germany, and still works with former academic colleagues at nearby Penn State.”

    So…tech-magazine “Wired”…Kariko has a telephone? Even during a lockdown? A-ma-zing. I say A-Ma-Zing because she could do the same thing with papyrus and a goose quill. Many have. Their excitement extends to her having turn-of-the-century technology. …Turn of the 1st century.

    “THE NEXT BIG mRNA vaccine breakthrough probably won’t be against another exotic new disease, but a very familiar one. “Flu is the number one target,” Falsey says. A disease that most people consider under control, influenza still kills over 300,000 people worldwide most years.”

    Uh, what? That’s how many were killed by “deadly” Covid as the numbers steadily get revised.

    “This is despite more than one billion yearly flu shots.” So vaccines don’t work.

    “[Flu vaccines] rarely achieve even 50 per cent protection. For the 2018-2019 flu season it was just 29 per cent; some years it is as low as ten per cent.” So vaccines don’t work. But they feverishly recommend buying them anyway.

    “[mRNA] will be absolutely transformative. Many older vaccine platforms will not survive… we will be coming up with other new medical innovations that wouldn’t otherwise be possible.”

    Uh huh. Not that Science new powers have ever opened unhappy doors before. Like always, 100% of the time.

    “Like fitting on a desktop, the size of a photocopier. You have your chemicals in a cartridge, and there you go,” Oh, so we can edit DNA from a garage in Honduras or Belarus now? I don’t see any downside. Progress!!! The only Up without a Down! The world’s one-sided coin!

    ““With something like 60 machines, you could do the entire population of England,” he says.”
    “PERHAPS THE MOST exciting thing about the next few years is that, as Blakney puts it, there are “so many things we don’t yet know” about what exactly this technology can do.”

    Exciting indeed. In the sense of: “May you live in ‘exciting’ times.”

    The whole rest of the article are empty, religious catchphrases like “this was a game changer.” “We’re at a very exciting point,” “too good to be true,” and “near-perfect”

    “Near-perfect”, “+20x more dangerous than any vaccine ever, killing ten thousands”; to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to. Whatever.

    But, that’s the empty, vacuous, un-reflective un-smart thinking you can expect from graduates of Imperial College and University of Toronto. If something goes wrong, remember their names.

    #76957
    John Day
    Participant

    My son has decided not to get our 4 year old granddaughter “vaccinated”, after we had a long talk this past weekend, for his birthday. He jumped to get the shots when they were provided at his work a couple of months ago. He’s more broadly informed now. All “the kids” have gotten-the-jabs, even my daughters, who both had COVID, and both accepted ivermectin-based-treatment, even the one who was running the COVID ward at her hospital.
    Peer pressure is powerful.
    Protecting your children can actively compete with peer pressure.

    #76958
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Peer pressure is powerful.”

    It used to be those who could resist it had the qualities we wanted in leaders. Now we punish it.

    #76959
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Ok, Dr D, the “take down” of the Wired article was just plain hilarious.

    #76960
    Mr. House
    Participant

    #76962
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    absolute galore: “Re my NYT post above: A cynic would say they are manipulating the numbers and using the variants to re-ignite fear and get more people to get vaccinated.”

    I agree with the cynic. That article cherry picks some data from Maryland, for example, and ignores some relevant data. Back in January, the daily new positive tests in Maryland (per 100k population) were up around 40 or 50 (peaking above 60 per 100k), while since early May it’s been down below 10, and for the past two weeks it’s been below 5 per 100k.

    Dangerous variants are likely to blame,” ha. They are so “dangerous” that the number of daily new infections are almost negligible (currently 1 per 100k population).

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/maryland

    #76963
    zerosum
    Participant

    Quietely, no yelling
    Get memory T-cells or reduce population
    flattening the curve, crushing the curve.
    The eternal battle/war of life

    Memory cells/immunity
    natural immunity
    vaccine Immunity
    herd immunity

    Most children brush off Covid without even knowing they’ve had it.
    For all intents and purposes, Covid poses zero risk to healthy children.

    • Moderna CEO: Vaccine Boosters, Flu/Covid Combo Shots Likely For The Future (F.)

    the Moderna CEO says it’s likely booster shots will be needed in the near future, both to bolster waning immunity and to protect against new virus mutations.
    ———-
    Problems that can be ignored by USA (Biden)
    N. Korea
    Iran
    Cuba
    Sanctions
    Tariffs
    Human rights violations – Assange
    Monopolies
    Ivermectin
    Vaccine problems
    Migrants

    ————
    Peer pressure is powerful.
    Just another tool of the “enablers” to make politicians/Biden “toe the line”

    #76964
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    This is despite more than one billion yearly flu shots. So vaccines don’t work.

    You’re overgeneralizing. The influenza virus mutates like a sunuvabitch.

    In the past two years, I’ve received immunization shots for tetanus, shingles, and hepatitis, and I don’t expect to ever regret receiving those. As for coronavirus vaccines? I trust my instincts on these things, and this is what my instincts have to say about that:

    #76965
    zerosum
    Participant

    Peer pressure is a tool of democracy
    Critical thinking is the enemy of democracy/rule of the majority.

    #76967
    John Day
    Participant

    Things not posting well again. Will try little bites.
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/going-viral.html

    #76968
    John Day
    Participant

    Under 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported in the USA, for reasons Dr. McCullough explains, and I confirm.
    Latest VAERS Data Show: 5,165 Deaths Reported Following COVID Vaccines
    VAERS data released today showed 294,801 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 5,165 deaths and 25,359 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and May 28, 2021.

    Latest VAERS Data Show: 5,165 Deaths Reported Following COVID Vaccines

    There has been clear evidence of numerous laboratory manipulations of the SARS-CoV-2 genome since late February 2020. Here is that wheel partly rediscovered.
    ​ ​The two pieces of evidence led Quay and Muller to conclude that the possibility that COVID-19 was engineered should be viewed as the leading theory.
    ​ ​“The presence of the double CGG sequence is strong evidence of gene splicing, and the absence of diversity in the public outbreak suggests gain-of-function acceleration,” they wrote. “The scientific evidence points to the conclusion that the virus was developed in a laboratory.”
    https://nypost.com/2021/06/06/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab/

    ​”Vaccine Reluctant” are unlikely to want COVID vaccines going forward. (Yeah, that’s me, for sure!)
    ​ As of the May 18-23 survey, 60% of U.S. adults report they have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, 4% have been partially vaccinated, 12% plan to be vaccinated and 24% do not plan to be vaccinated.
    Among those not planning to be vaccinated, 78% say they are unlikely to reconsider their plans, including 51% who say they are “not likely at all” to change their mind and get vaccinated. That leaves one in five vaccine-reluctant adults open to reconsidering, with 2% saying they are very likely and 19% saying they are somewhat likely to change their mind and get vaccinated — equivalent to 5% of all U.S. adults.
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350720/covid-vaccine-reluctant-likely-stay.aspx

    #76969
    zerosum
    Participant

    Dumb Luck
    The human body contains 10^13 cells living in harmony with 10 times that number of virus, etc. (10^14)
    Can you imagine the odds of a vaccines improving, (no negative side effects), what mother earth took millions of years of trial and error.

    #76970
    John Day
    Participant

    And you are already taking plenty of vitamin-D, right? Maybe 25 mg of zinc per day, too?

    ​ ​Scientists from the Cleveland Clinic, USA, have recently evaluated the effectiveness of coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19) vaccination among individuals with or without a history of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection.
    ​ ​The study findings reveal that individuals with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection do not get additional benefits from vaccination, indicating that COVID-19 vaccines should be prioritized to individuals without prior infection. The study is currently available on the medRxiv* preprint server.
    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210608/No-point-vaccinating-those-whoe28099ve-had-COVID-19-Findings-of-Cleveland-Clinic-study.aspx

    ​One month after “vaccination” most of this guy’s body​ tested positive for only spike protein (not nucleocapsid so not whole virus).
    He did not appear to have COVID-19, just multi organ failure with positive spike-protein-sensing tests on most of his corpse.
    They soft pedal this to say that vaccination didn’t fully protect him.
    Obviously, that mRNA did not degrade, and kept pumping spike protein into his blood, and killed his poor organs.

    First case of postmortem study in a patient vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2
    A previously symptomless 86-year-old man received the first dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. He died 4 weeks later from acute renal and respiratory failure. Although he did not present with any COVID-19-specific symptoms, he tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 before he died. Spike protein (S1) antigen-binding showed significant levels for immunoglobulin (Ig) G, while nucleocapsid IgG/IgM was not elicited. Acute bronchopneumonia and tubular failure were assigned as the cause of death at autopsy; however, we did not observe any characteristic morphological features of COVID-19. Postmortem molecular mapping by real-time polymerase chain reaction revealed relevant SARS-CoV-2 cycle threshold values in all organs examined (oropharynx, olfactory mucosa, trachea, lungs, heart, kidney and cerebrum) except for the liver and olfactory bulb. These results might suggest that the first vaccination induces immunogenicity but not sterile immunity.
    https://www.ijidonline.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1201-9712%2821%2900364-7

    mRNA “vaccines” are your-entire-future, not just in-your-future. (Thanks Dr.D)
    Your genes are our playground forever!
    Don’t Miss Out!
    Don’t worry; Nothing Bad Can Happen!
    The mRNA vaccine revolution is just beginning
    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/mrna-vaccine-revolution-katalin-kariko

    #76971
    John Day
    Participant

    How America went from Mom-and-Pop Capitalism to Techno-Feudalism (so what’s next?)
    ​ ​On the economic front, global lockdowns eliminated competition from small and medium-sized businesses, allowing monopolies and oligopolies to grow. “The biggest loser from all this is the middle class,” wrote Logan Kane on Seeking Alpha. By May 2020, about one in four Americans had filed for unemployment, with over 40 million Americans filing jobless claims; and 200,000 more businesses closed in 2020 than the historical annual average. Meanwhile, US billionaires collectively increased their total net worth by $1.1 trillion during the last 10 months of 2020; and 46 people joined the billionaire class.

    How America Went From Mom-and-Pop Capitalism to Techno-Feudalism

    ​Michael Snyder observes:​ (Cars don’t actually need computer chips. Remember the Pinto? America could make its own Yugos, little trucks and vans.)
    ​ ​Many of the imbalances that are contributing to the nightmarish shortages that we are currently witnessing are not going to be solved any time soon. Ever since I started The Economic Collapse Blog, I have been warning that outsourcing the production of just about everything and running massive trade deficits year after year would eventually have very serious consequences down the road. Well, now we are officially “down the road”, and our incredibly foolish trade policies have put us in a very precarious position. During the “good times”, being extremely dependent on the rest of the world to make stuff for us wasn’t a problem, but now it is rapidly becoming a national security issue.
    ​ ​For example, without a steady flow of computer chips, our society as it is formulated today simply could not function. We need computer chips for our vehicles, for the trucks that transport all of our goods, for the farm equipment that produces our food, for the extremely sophisticated equipment in our hospitals and for the millions upon millions of electronic devices that connect to the Internet.
    ​ ​The global chip shortage has been a very painful reminder of how exceedingly dependent we have become on technology, and it has also shown us how unwise it was to outsource production of most of our chips to Asia.
    ​ ​Back in 1990, the United States produced 37 percent of all computer chips in the world.
    Today, that number has fallen to just 12 percent.

    Outsourcing The Production Of Virtually Everything Has Brought Us To The Brink Of A Nightmare Scenario For The U.S. Economy

    #76972
    John Day
    Participant

    “It was China what done it” (All the bioweapons labs were playing with the same coronavirus strains and gain-of-function mix-and-match special-features.​)​
    ​ ​EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak – who collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on research funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease – appears to boast about the manipulation of “killer” SARS-like coronaviruses carried out by his “colleagues in China” in a clip unearthed by The National Pulse.
    ​ ​Daszak made the admission at a 2016 forum discussing “emerging infectious diseases and the next pandemic,” which appears to be at odds with Fauci’s repeated denial of funding gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology

    WATCH: Explosive, Unearthed Video Shows Peter Daszak Describing ‘Chinese Colleagues’ Developing ‘Killer’ Coronaviruses.

    #76973
    John Day
    Participant

    Gotta’ Wear Shades

    #76975
    absolute galore
    Participant

    @John Day wrote: “mRNA “vaccines” are your-entire-future, not just in-your-future. (Thanks Dr.D)”

    What am i, chopped liver?;^) See first comment of today’s thread.

    #76976
    zerosum
    Participant

    “mRNA “vaccines” are your-entire-future, not just in-your-future.
    Your genes are our playground forever!”

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/mrna-vaccine-revolution-katalin-kariko

    “All of this is music to Karikó’s ears. The last time I speak to her she is excited about a laboratory that is using mRNA to try and extend human telomeres – long DNA caps at the end of our chromosomes that many believe determine the rate of human ageing. She had a similar idea 15 years ago but wasn’t able to pursue it.”

    #76977
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    There is a sizable number of people in the US that are choosing not to vaccinate themselves. They will vehemently oppose vaccinating their children with Covid vaccines.

    #76978
    John Day
    Participant

    @AbsoluteGalore (who is a male) I didn’t catch that what you posted was identical.
    When I had appendicitis for my 4th birthday, and was throwing up for 4 days, sick, undiagnosed, my Mom tried to feed me little cubes of raw calves liver that she cut up. I can still picture the spoon of raw calves liver cubes coming to my face as I lay in bed sick.
    Later I was diagnosed and my traitorous appendix removed, which I also remember very clearly, except when I held my breath for “the astronaut mask”, but they slipped me some kind of rapid acting barbiturate in my IV and I felt myself slipping away into the dream, which I still recall.

    So, not chopped liver, no…

    #76979
    Noirette
    Participant

    Prof. Chossudovsky, an economist, interviewed (audio) by Guns and Butter, about a year ago.

    He relates the ‘pandemic’ to economic issues, saying for ex. that ‘the virus’ is used to implement drastic changes in trade, transport, economies. He opines it isn’t *bio-warfare”, or not in essence so, but has been actioned to concentrate money-wealth in the upper strata. He speaks about the biggest world-wide transfer of wealth – in modern times. He has it in for the WHO, in a big way, he returns to this point several times. (Sees them as totally complicit).

    One hour.

    This is *part* of the reason why so many different companies, organisms, groups, got on board with the MSM – Medic – Gvmt. panic scenario, or decided to stay silent and ‘wait and see’, trying to dope out where their interests would be best served / protected.

    #76980
    Noirette
    Participant

    The vaxxing of children and/or glorifying them if they decide to embrace the jab, when given the liberty to decide on their own (in some places from a v. low age x), is absolutely terrifying.

    Echoes of ‘gender change’ where pre-pubescent children (and their parents who are in fact instigators), on the child’s say-so are allowed to radically transform the biology / body of the child (puberty blockers, later, operations, etc.) because those children are glorified as *special* near *holy* etc.

    The family no doubt gets paid (thru med. insurance, stipends, support, etc.) and the parents can become facebook figures and even maybe grab 15-minute-fame TV! The children are admired icons for a while – and life-time clients of BigPharma-Med.

    Part of the “tech and modern science” CAN trump Nature message – as long as profits can be raked in… What happens after they, the cute kiddies, prancing in skirts, or frowning ‘real bad’, have been used? Dismaying. Horrifying.

    #76981
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Noirette, I was thinking along the same lines yesterday evening (young children deciding to get vaccinated / young children deciding to reassign gender). Maybe it’s this: “Munchausen syndrome by proxy is a mental illness and a form of child abuse. The caretaker of a child, most often a mother, either makes up fake symptoms or causes real symptoms to make it look like the child is sick. No one is sure what causes Munchausen syndrome by proxy.” Of course, with the covid vaccines the child is “asymptomatic” and shows little to no sign of disease so it appears it’s getting easier and easier to practice this particular form of child abuse.

    #76982
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I should add, to clarify: agreeing with Noirette that parents are often instigators.

    #76984
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Parents are vaccinating their children because of fear. Their fear is being drummed up. The marketing of Covid vaccines, and the Covid narrative, is based on fear.

    Nothing makes us more uncomfortable than fear. And we have so many fears: fear of pain, disease, injury, failure, not being accepted, missing an opportunity, and being scammed, to name a few. Fear invokes the flight or fight system, and our first reaction is often to flee back to our comfort zone. If we don’t know the way back, we are likely to follow whoever shows us a path.

    Marketers use fear as a motivator as often as they can. They present a scenario they hope will invoke our sense of fear. Then they show us a solution – a path back to our comfort zone – that entails using their product or service. Fear is used to sell almost everything: cars, tires, and life insurance are classics. But clever marketers also use it to sell breakfast cereal and deodorant. As a result, we purchase all sorts of things that a generation ago were considered unnecessary: antibacterial soap, alarm systems, vitamins. The list goes on and on.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-main-ingredient/200909/the-most-powerful-motivator

    #76985
    zerosum
    Participant

    the biggest world-wide transfer of wealth
    From the gov. printing press to a new class of educated, wealthy, individuals.
    There will still exist crowd control and peer pressure.

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