Debt Rattle March 24 2023
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 24 2023]Talented GB boxer dies suddenly aged 19 as tributes pour in for ‘future champ’
“Jude Moore’s family ‘currently have no answers’ as to what happened to the talented sportsman”
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/talented-gb-boxer-dies-suddenly-8272645
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Girl found in critical condition dies at school
“…the girl died in her sleep…”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9r04w5qq91o
Oh, the irony. Her school was a death-vaxx center:
https://www.bordercountiesadvertizer.co.uk/news/19036497.oswestry-school-become-covid-19-vaccination-centre/TVASF
GAA club rocked by sudden death of young player at its ground
“…the death is not being treated as suspicious.”
But of course not!https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaa-club-rocked-sudden-death-26463428
Normal!
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Boy, 16, dies suddenly in Wiltshire town
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/boy-16-dies-suddenly-in-wiltshire-town/ar-AA18CpzC
Another normal event in the UK in 2023.
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Devastated family share heartfelt tributes to ‘popular wee boy’, 15, who died suddenly while playing football
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21723471/devastated-family-tributes-boy-died-football/
Nobody even cares.
Nothis suspicious.
It’s now normal.TVASF
I believe that Jehane had VITT – Vaccine induced immune thrombocytopenia and thrombosis:
Jehane Thomas, TikTok Star and Mother of Two, Dead at 30 After Suffering Migraines
Death Vaxx wot did it – VITT: https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2195
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It’s really incredible that people can open the newspaper every day, see a story like this – every day – and still just shrug and move on as though nothing unusual is taking place. From today’s Daily Mail
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11897831/Head-chef-38-died-suddenly-Cornwall-beach-bar.html
‘He was a fit and healthy man. He last went to the doctor in 2016. He didn’t smoke and had stopped drinking, he never took drugs, he was really fit and healthy.’
I wonder if you can explain how the laser reflectors got to the moon (previous thread)
The reflection of laser beams does not require reflectors. However, assuming that reflectors have been transported to the Moon that does not provide any evidence whatsoever that humans went to the Moon and back, nor even imply that humans went to the Moon and back, since reflectors could have easily been transported to the Moon by unmanned transporters. Indeed, the history of space exploration is characterised by the use of unmanned capsules carrying instruments being propelled large distances by the action of the gravitational fields and orbital velocity of planets, never to return, i.e. not the use of chemical propellants, which suffer the effects of diminishing returns – to carry fuel into space requires a larger rocket which uses more fuel, making it heavier and requiring more fuel, requiring the rocket to be bigger and heavier, requiring more fuel….
It’s really incredible that people can open the newspaper every day, see a story like this – every day – and still just shrug and move on as though nothing unusual is taking place.
But isn’t that exactly the reality of our day to day lives, today? It is in fact our new normal…
“Only 7 Out Of 30 NATO Members Hit 2% GDP Defense Spending Target In 2022
As Ukraine war rages, Stoltenberg chastises alliance…”One YEAR later. They’re going to book a meeting, about the meeting, about scheduling, about talking about, getting some weapons. Maybe later. After we build a factory and make them.
Okay then!
“Defense Attorneys In Jan. 6 Case Allege FBI Informant Spied On Legal Team”
It’s against the law, so of course they did. Breaking the law so they can prosecute people breaking the law! That’s how you reduce breaking the law!
“USA Today Again Picks Biological Man As ‘Woman Of The Year’”
Attacking and eliminating women wherever they can. That’s Love and Support! It’s the protecting of women and girls that’s hatred and bigotry, doncha know.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bonds-bitcoin-bullion-soar-bank-bloodbath-builds
Endless charts here. Market Dow, multi-year, rose, failed to make new high, came down, built right shoulder, retested resistance, failed to get through…so all-clear to fall sharply. All standard events have happened.BTC, same thing in reverse: 3-year broke out in 2020! Up to the $64,000 question!!! …And then collapsed. Two years and years, back down…but not even to the $15k breakout level, now retested the breakout, rose above the 200DMA, cut right through the former high of $24k, and…here we are. Broke out, retested, ready to rise. (this may not be the minute to buy, that’s a very long chart, but the structure is here now showing substantial strength. — Even unexpectedly.)
Article charts also show US and Europe are in a major financial fight – bond expectations between them do NOT match up in the most diverging way in history. Somebody is wrong. Europe – and the Dow – are still saying, demanding, Fed will pause and seriously reverse by a whole 1% immediately. The Dow has not cracked, the Fed has no credibility, nothing has really broken, Dow still at 30k, nosebleed highs, along with P/E and every other measure: unprecedented, above 1929, nosebleed, ludicrous highs. And Powell’s gonna stop?
I’ve got the under on this one. Most of the world is Davos, and the Davos market is the one that’s wrong. Europe is the bond rate that’s going to crack, not Powell. But we’ll see. We might have another “Miracle” like Sept 2019. When it’s bedtime they throw more tantrums.
“Pentagon Doctors Take Medical Orders from Seven Year Olds”
Sounds about right. But only if it kills/sterilizes them. If it makes them healthy or it’s a mask the CDC proved doesn’t work, then we don’t. That’s just logic.
Anyone follow poor Jazz, one of the early highlighted trans people? Who is now crippled beyond repair and as a (literal) man stuck in a “woman’s” body actually IS now trans? Since they did the surgery so early, he’s now a teen and wants to date girls…but he’s a girl now. A sterile one with no parts and a scarred-up Frankestein body. You think it’s hard to find love? Imagine you’re also a burn victim…on your parts. And sterile before 20 with no hope of a family, dying alone.
They love this and want much, much more tragic stories for any child they can get hold of.
“”An Unprecedent Inquiry”: Manhattan DA Fires Off Angry Letter Blaming Trump For Arrest Rumors”
Um, YOU booked the Grand Jury…which is a real thing…then YOUR people leaked it to the media where it was published widely. Whose rumors? Trump rumored himself? I thought the whole point was rumors. The breadth and level of illogic is shocking. “Trump shelled himself inside that nuclear plant.”
“Pompeo Warns of Biden Administration’s ‘Enormous’ Mistake (RT) “Pompeo. Really. After you did the same thing for four years, maybe 12?
“Medvedev Says Diplomacy Doesn’t Always Work, Special Op Was Right Move (TASS) “
Their task was to sell it to the Russian people, why there was no alternative and this was smart, and they’ve done that. The West hasn’t and in fact hasn’t even started. There is no argument, because there is no choice. You Do What You’re Told.
“• Nato Chief: West Must Brace To Support Ukraine In A Long War (G.)
A long war where one side has no ammunition? Please explain.
ICC and Ukraine, Hungary.
Everybody has to do the #Opposite of the law. That’s how we do things now. Only if we follow the law are we arrested.
“many Democrats repeatedly stress that influence peddling is not criminal,”
I’m a little confused. “Bribery” is not illegal? Under what statute, as it’s in National, State, and Local law? Is this like how Insider Trading is not illegal? And this is not illegal only for them because the Constitution clearly states Congress and government must be subject to their own laws and cannot be a special class?
Huh. Well it’s #OppositeDay again, I guess. I guess I’ll go “Influence Peddle” my Family Court Judge, lock out my ex, and tell the State Police that it’s not Criminal. That’s how we do things now. If the police give me any trouble, I’ll “Influence Peddle” them too. That’s Justice!
NASA: I’m a little lost. “In Space no one can hear you scream” because there is no sound. Therefore, they took something else, and digitally fabricated it into sound. The Sound of a thing (which quite certain isn’t sound but light) “From which nothing can escape”. Are they TRYING to break over my mountain of credulity here? I’m hearing a not-Black Hole (maybe the areas surrounding it?) with the not-sound (maybe the light emanating from it). WTF?
I’ll just go on Youtube, play “Stairway to Heaven” backward, and post it with this title. Same thing.
They do the same thing to, for example, the “streetlight from space station” photos. They are synthesized, pieced together, from location and also wavelength shots. Then made uniform, translated to visible light, and cleaned up. That is to say, they are entirely fabricated in Photoshop, with virtually nothing you see being real. The predecessors to the AI generated pics. “Just Made S—t Up!”
It’s okay if you know it’s art, not photo. Photos are deceptive enough, but we consider to know its likely limitations. This is as open as the world-wide human imagination. That’s also the run with the AI/Trump Arrest. A lot of photos are about to come out, on Biden, Epstein, and da boyz. They need no one to believe their own lyin’ eyes and are doing a great job. They need to be a post-truth, post-reality society and it’s going quite well.
Without reality, #Logos erased entirely, you “Do what you’re told”. What other choice is there? There’s no conflict to be had because where would it come from? Your own eyes and ears? Nope!
That leads to…My thought on Uranium was the same. That’s a description that’s logical, mathematically sound…and completely wrong. CLEARLY dust wanders around everywhere, and ALL of it is heavier than air. You see this every day of your whole life, walking around. Always, since you were a wee lad. Where is the disconnect that you don’t believe your own lyin’ eyes?
Now uranium is VERY heavy, so that made me stop and consider, but, you know ROCKS are heavy too, and sand-dust is tiny ROCKS. Besides, the article pointed out that as a decaying nucleus, it has constant ionic charge. I’d have to look into that more as so does everything else, but it’s plausible. Surely it can’t be so heavy as to NEVER float. I can grind metal and smell it. It must at least a little, which isn’t the greatest problem. That’s that it is very heavy and very small, so it remains where it lands, in the soil. We know for a fact it causes birth defects in Iraq and our veterans, although we may not know how long, clearly on decade-level scales, perhaps tapering off after 50 years. That’s not good, and it is indeed chemical and radiological warfare of dirty bombs. In this case on “Russian” soil. Perhaps NYC will “accidentally” have a tsunami and save us the trouble.
We need to “accidentally” leave these “perfectly safe” weapons Russia is “Overreacting” to throughout the Hamptons, Switzerland, and Kensington. Since like Ohio they’re “As safe as water” they won’t mind, right?
The reflectors? There are spacecraft, just not the ones they admit to. Why would you think all the flying TikTacs, which the Navy has proven are real, aren’t “ours”? Whose else would they be?
If they can fly at impossible speed, also into the ocean, have no visible propulsion or air-burning from speed, why wouldn’t they fly without an atmosphere?
We’ve been seeing them since 1949? When all of D.C. was covered them? So why wouldn’t humans have one by 1969? To imagine otherwise is what’s really the stretch here. We can confirm SOME events without hypothesis or rumor. Taking the simplest, most-likely conclusion from what millions of people have seen and photographed — including the U.S. Navy, officially, right now, leads to some pretty simple conclusions.
Let me say it this way: the SR-71 Blackbird started in the 1950s and it “didn’t exist” either. …But that’s right “no one can keep a secret” “It’s impossible” although the U2, the SR-71, the Manhattan Project, the Japanese and Enigma Code were all kept secret by thousands of collective people even over decades of time.
If anything were going on, the government would never keep secrets and you would know more than every CIA director and 4-star general combined, right? That’s how this works?
We don’t have to know where these PROVEN craft come from to know humans are the ones flying them. If they can fly them here, why not there? If we could fly them in 1949, why not 1969? Why not 1999? There, was that so hard?
It has been said before but is worth repeating:
The Empire of Lies has no regard whatsoever for the lives of the ‘human livestock’ of NATOstan nations nor any regard for the lives of humans anywhere else on Earth; The Empire of Lies has no regard for other species we share this planet with, nor any regard for the physical or chemical state of the planet; the only factors that feature in the agendas of The Empire of Lies are money, power and control, and The Empire of Lies is prepared to sacrifice everything in the short-term maintenance of [fake] money, power and the illusion of control.
I believe that Russia has resorted to the use of white phosphorus, in addition to thermobaric weapons and hypersonic weapons to deal with fanatical fascists.
Use of white phosphorus would normally be considered a war crime but since Russia is faced with an existential threat and NATO has no rules of engagement other than lying and attacking everything – civilians, infrastructure, nuclear facilities, the very foundations of society- it is understandable that Russia is resorting to using really nasty stuff.
As Putin aid a while ago:” We’re only just getting started.”
It is said that the fascists of Oceania and Ukraine have accumulated an army of 80,000 and are ready to launch a desperate attempt to turn the tide in and around Bakhmut. River will literally be running with blood.
Alex Mercouris recently pointed out that Ukraine is now a testing ground for weapons. That said, the bulk of the work is still being done via nineteenth century technology of using charges to fire exploding shells at the enemy.
‘All wars are banker’s (banksters) wars’.
‘War is a racket.’
“When all else fails, they take you to war.”
Pentagon Claims 7 Year Olds Can Fly F-35 “Lardbucket” Fighter Jet
Military Industrial Mafia® which ran the entire Plandemic Clotshot Genocide Scam wants your kids snuffed.
Putin describes the Collective West as “perverted, degenerate and degraded”
I wonder how he got that impression?
From the Her/Uh? and the He/Haws?
Is that Paul Pelosi in the back being chased by the Hammer Guy?
eugyppius on the “EMO.” Best meta-analysis yet, takes us out of the weeds and into the light of day:
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/bill-gates-the-global-depopulation
Rather discouraging, but who really thought we faced a simple challenge? At least now we see the depths and origins of much that otherwise doesn’t make sense. Thank you, eugyppius…
The Empire of Lies Military Mafia
<strike>We Stand Tall</strike>
I mean we stand small
“We’ve lowered our recruitment standards to 7 years old because we can’t get even a few good ‘men’ to join anymore.”
Finally! The markets have Deutsche Bank in the firing line. Shares down 10% today and CDS prices jumping. How that Godforsaken disaster of a bank is still alive I do not know – but maybe not for much longer.
The Fed and The ECB w/ Tom Luongo (Live)
Tom gives a very good overview on the banking war between the FED & Wall St vs Davos & Deutsche Bank/Soros
Each side is trying to collapse the other’s economy
Turns out blowing up Nordstream to sink Germany was a good move for the FED & the White Shoe Boys
So was rescuing Credit Suisse and the Swiss banking system from the Davos Mafia
Look UP, Way UP,
See the lights dancing Listen for the crackle
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Back to the regular programming
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/24/us-says-air-strikes-hit-syria-targets-after-deadly-drone-attackUS air strikes ‘kill 11’ in Syria after drone kills contractor
Pentagon said air strikes were carried out in retaliation for drone attack on US-led coalition base that killed a US contractor, injured another, and wounded five US soldiers.
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Israel launches missile attack on Syria’s Aleppo airport: Gov’tsad, subdued Nowruz for Syria’s Kurds
Floods destroy homes of quake survivors in northwestern Syria
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Let it flow
• Ukraine Deployed Over 80,000 Servicemen Around Bakhmut – Prigozhin (TASS)The Ukrainian armed forces have gathered over 80,000 servicemen around Artyomovsk (the Ukrainian name of the city is Bakhmut – TASS), Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner private military company, said in a video published on his press service’s Telegram channel on Thursday. “As of today, the enemy has deployed more than 80,000 [servicemen] around Bakhmut. This grouping is in Seversk, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Druzhkovka, Konstantinovka and Chasovoy Yar,” Prigozhin said. “The Ukrainians received a very large amount of various NATO equipment, various armored vehicles, Leopards tanks, which everyone is talking about, and prepared reserves of about 200,000 people,” he added.
International Criminal Court says Russians are taking children out of war zone illegally.
Since one should “always accuse your opponent of what you are doing” (Rules For Radicals), might that be about the human-child factory-farms that are no longer bringing money into Ukraine? Blame Russia’s police and social workers before they report what they found?Just wondering, ya-know… It would seem to be an unregulated business activity with high potential profit, for whole kids and vital parts, like kidneys, livers, hearts and lungs.
Pompeo warns of Biden administration’s ‘enormous’ mistakeUkraine On the Verge of Launching A Counter Offensive at Bakhmut
This will be an epic slaughter of the few remaining experienced units of the Ukronazi army
From Larry Johnson:
“The odds are stacked against the Ukrainians. They cannot match the Russians in terms of artillery shells and rate of fire. Russia has robust ISR (i.e., Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance) capabilities.
That means Russia is closely monitoring the build up of Ukrainian assets in Chasov Yar and should be prepared to bring to bear an enormous volume of fire on any attacking columns.
My friend made quite an understatement in noting that, “bad weather, rain and mud” create a problem for the tanks.
There are not multiple points of access available to the tanks and they will be facing Anti Tank Guided Missiles, artillery, bombs delivered by combat air, sea and air launched missiles. While I am loathe to reference previous battles in history, this certainly appears to be a Pickett’s Charge moment”
The Russians want to destroy Ukronazis, their main objective, territory being secondary.
Nazilensky wants to hold and recapture territory as the prime objective.
This plays perfectly into Russian plans.
Is Ukraine On the Verge of Launching A Counter Offensive at Bakhmut?
22 March 2023 by Larry Johnson 226 Comments
I received the following from a friend who is well plugged in with the Ukrainian side. I consider his information reliable:
Volodomyr Zelensky visited Chasov Yar today to kick off an offensive to relieve Bakhmut and push the Russians back. A number of armored and artillery brigades are being moved down from the North to support such a relief operation.
Chasov Yar may be four or so miles from Bakhmut. Zelensky can no longer chance a visit to Bakhmut as he did earlier this month.
As we have noted before there are somewhere between 15 to 20,000 UKA fighting inside Bakhmut, and the UKA area of control is shrinking and also bifurcated between a larger group in the western center of the city and the remainder in the north east of the city.
Sources report that Leopard and Challenger tanks have been moved into position for the relief operation, even though the room for tank operations is not great because of the bad weather, rain and mud.
Some experts think this relief operation will last only four or five days and may start as early as tomorrow. It can’t go much longer than that because the UKA has limited reserves and cannot afford a long battle or stalemate with the Russians.
It is anticipated this will be a very bloody battle and could be decisive for both sides.
Zelensky is acting outside of the advice he is getting from the US/NATO which desires a frontal attack on Crimea and not at Bakhmut or, further to the south, Avdviika, which is also under Russian attack and potential encirclement.
If the Russians lose at Bakhmut it pressages a much longer war, perhaps years.
Up till now the Russians have been operating slowly and methodically, but this will go out the window with a fierce rescue operation.
If the Ukrainians lose, it suggests that the UKA will have squandered much of its offensive capability, and it could lead to a chaotic outcome.
The odds are stacked against the Ukrainians. They cannot match the Russians in terms of artillery shells and rate of fire. Russia, like the United States and NATO, has robust ISR (i.e., Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance) capabilities. That means Russia should be monitoring the build up of Ukrainian assets in Chasov Yar and should be prepared to bring to bear an enormous volume of fire on any attacking columns.
My friend made quite an understatement in noting that, “bad weather, rain and mud” create a problem for the tanks. There are not multiple points of access available to the tanks and they will be facing Anti Tank Guided Missiles, artillery, bombs delivered by combat air, sea and air launched missiles. While I am loathe to reference previous battles in history, this certainly appears to be a Pickett’s Charge moment.
Russia enjoys a critical logistics capability in this looming fight.
It can rapidly reinforce troops in that sector and it can supply the ammunition necessary to sustain intense fire, short supply lines.
Russia is waiting for the upcoming attack and is laying in wait to conduct a devastating ambush.
The Ukronazis have robbed other parts of their lines north and south to concentrate a force near Bakhmut leaving them open to Russian attacks.
The Ukronazis cannot use the fields right now without being stuck in the Spring mud and turning into sitting ducks, the timing for their counter-offensive couldn’t be worse.
The Russians timing couldn’t be better.
The 15 to 20k Ukronazis trapped in Bakhmut are the trap’s bait, they will all perish or surrender.
It will be an epic slaughter for the counter-offensive and a gift to the Russians
Jim Kunstler, being adverse to conspiracy, always defaults to explaining history as “it seemed like a good idea at the time”
Well, that has it’s merits sometimes, but not always.
Nazilensky’s Banzai Charge® at Bakhmut is one of those moments however that will prove his point.
Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time
“Allison Pearson meets Anders Tegnell: ‘Lockdown was never on the agenda in Sweden’
While the world’s governments pushed crippling Covid restrictions on their people, one nation – and one man – stood apart”Worth a listen:
“Lockdown killed more people than it saved”
https://art19.com/shows/planet-normal/episodes/bb2a1941-e852-4f3d-b384-740f29017927/embed
SENATOR RICK WILLIAMS, HE’S A FUNERAL DIRECTOR. HIS EMBALMER NOTICED THE STRANGE CLOTS AFTER VAX
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Russian supplies will last ‘no more than three days’, Ukraine military claims
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-food-weapons-shortage-ukraine-b2041181.html
Wednesday 23 March 2022Russian invaders have three days of supplies left, says Ukraine military
*“this article is over 1 year old”I checked google for “russia running out of” sorting by date posted
looks like – according to the latest news – the most up to date thing they are running out of is:
1. Steam
2. MomentumAlso, articles today mention Russia has been “caught” using paper maps. Or what we call MAPS. Surely the walls are closing in now, being seen to use “paper maps”
They commented that the maps use a coordinate system developed in 1942. You want us to conclude what? Say it then. Uh, dude your GPS uses a coordinate system developed by Hipparchus in the 2nd century BC. (the Greeks accurately calculated the circumference of the earth using the shadow of an obelisk and the shadow inside a well.)
The article (humorously but without self awareness) concluded that because Russians were being seen to LOOK at maps, they therefore “got lost” Was this written by a late millennial / early gen Z who never ever used anything but a smartphone guiding them through navigation by voice, such that someone taking out a map and looking at it equals lost?
Here’s the link – add the . before the ‘com’ in place of the space.
https://odysee com/@jermwarfare:2
Oroboros: Find of the day. I don’t watch much. Life is short. I read kinda fast. The Duran interview with Tom Luongo kepts me tuned in without any pause in the flow of important factual and conceptual information about the financial war between European globalist interests (“Davos crowd”), including Biden/Yellen, and the American retail banking establishment, now represented by Jerome Powell, who has American national and financial interests to serve, and is doing so.
The dance of the central banks just took the Swiss central bank out of the clutches of Davos by crashing the AT1 bonds in the Credit Swiss “buyout”. This is brutally simple when Tom Luongo explains it. It puts the ECB/Davos franchise in dire straits, forcing them to further brinksmanship, which might be nuclear war, not just figuratively. How do they default, blame Russia and convince the whole world that CBDC is the best way out?
It’s war though, war everywhere, and there are greater and lesser evils, not really white knights.“Rare” – hahaha
Covid vaccine: Dozens of families damaged by rare reaction to AstraZeneca jab launch legal fight
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I have eternal life on tiktok and my wisdom lives on forever on twitter. If my fellow humans don’t grasp my value, the eternity of space and surveillance will offer it to other entities from far away and elsewhere. I must daily, hourly, pray to my god by swiping my screen; I must connect with my digital spirits, my audience, my mirror.
Amen.If it’s never just you, but you and your phone
I can tell you right now I’d prefer being alone.@JohnDay
The Duran piece with Tom Luongo saved me a lot of time by allowing me to wrap my head around the “Big Picture” in the Banking Wars.
Makes much more sense after hearing Tom break it down into digestible bits. Kinda like when you cut little kids meat into smaller pieces for them ;>)
I can work on the Doomstead listening to podcasts while cutting wood, etc instead of reading.
The senior citizen equivalent of multi-tasking. ;>)
A picture is worth a thousand words, a podcast is worth at least a hundred.
The Ukraine Thing is merely a branch off the Banking War, which is the main course.
The Multi-polar world seems to be Russia-China (maybe India) on one pole, the Fed & Wall St another and the Davos Mafia who control Empire of Lies political sphere, the White House, all of the State Dept, parts of the Pentagon, parts of US intelligence, and most of the MSMediawhores.
1,2,3 poles
Never thought I’d be rooting for the FED and Wall St mafias but they are the least worst at the moment.
If the FED can crash the EU banking system first, the panic money will flee Eurotardistan into Treasury Direct and Wall St.
Raising rates to 7%+ by the FED will recapitalize US pension funds, which are on life-support from years of zero bound interest rates.
We’ll see.
Regarding the Ohio train fire dioxin, The Guardian seems to be the only mainstream news source who didn’t get the memo to downplay it.
Testing of the soil found dioxin levels of 700 ppt.
The old EPA policy is for federal cleanup of residential areas with dioxin levels of 1,000 ppt.
“But EPA scientists in 2010 put the cancer risk threshold for dioxins in residential soil at 3.7 ppt, and the [EPA] agency recommended lowering the federal cleanup trigger to 72 ppt. The Obama administration killed the proposed new triggers.”“Meanwhile, many states will act on a cleanup at much lower levels than the EPA, including at 90 ppt in Michigan, and 50 ppt in California.
Federal cleanup standards of 1,000 ppt apply in Ohio.”Plan to test for dioxins near Ohio train derailment site is flawed, experts say
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/24/ohio-train-derailment-dioxin-test-plan-flawedA plan to test for toxic dioxins near the site of a February train wreck in East Palestine, Ohio, is flawed and unlikely to find the dangerous substances, independent chemical pollution researchers in the US who reviewed the testing protocol told the Guardian.
Initial soil testing already revealed dioxin levels hundreds of times above the threshold that Environmental Protection Agency scientists have found poses a cancer risk, but that sampling was limited in scope…
In the previous round of testing, Indiana’s government checked several soil samples because it was storing contaminated soil from the Ohio derailment in its landfills.
Regulators establish the toxicity of dioxins in a soil sample by calculating the “toxicity equivalence” of all dioxins in the soil compared with the most toxic dioxin compound, called 2,3,7,8 TCDD. East Palestine soil showed levels of “2,3,7,8 TCDD toxicity equivalence” of 700 parts per trillion (ppt).
The contamination level at which the EPA will initiate cleanup action in residential areas is 1,000 ppt. But EPA scientists in 2010 put the cancer risk threshold for dioxins in residential soil at 3.7 ppt, and the agency recommended lowering the federal cleanup trigger to 72 ppt. The Obama administration killed the proposed new triggers.
Meanwhile, many states will act on a cleanup at much lower levels than the EPA, including at 90 ppt in Michigan, and 50 ppt in California. Federal cleanup standards of 1,000 ppt apply in Ohio.
Those who reviewed the dioxin testing plan said they could not speculate on why it was designed as is. But Schade noted Norfolk Southern “has a vested interest in not finding dioxin”…
Tom Luongo also said an interesting tidbit about Jerome Powell
Eight generation Virginia aristocratic old family, a ‘real’ American
Knew a lot of Virginia landed gentry in the olds days, they consider themselves to be the core of the founding fathers in US history and still believe they are guardians of that flame.
“Knew a lot of Virginia landed gentry in the olds days, they consider themselves to be the core of the founding fathers in US history and still believe they are guardians of that flame.”
Good. Robert E Lee was probably one of the greatest americans to ever live. Sadly its now controversial to state these days.
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