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        • 1/4 of $2 Trillion Stimulus Bill Devoted to Useless Accounting Gimmick (Tankus) • At Least 13 Patients Die From Coronavirus In One Day
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 26 2020]

    #56047
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    That is one awesome picture; no attribution?
    It looks a bit like us; the rifraf, facing the sometimes frightening world we inhabit; only the brave survive; something like that little girl…

    So, Ilargi, how are you? Are you okay? Taking care of yourself, hopefully?
    You’re a true soldier; marching on through all the shell fire of our fractured world.
    Thank you in spades…
    V

    #56048

    That is one awesome picture; no attribution?

    It’s the cover of an album named The Black by the UK band Asking Alexandria. I couldn’t find anything about the artist.

    Ilargi, how are you? Are you okay? Taking care of yourself, hopefully?

    I think I’m okay, but it’s a bit much at times.

    #56049
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I think I’m okay, but it’s a bit much at times.

    Only you can make the decision; but, we’ll survive no Debt Rattle for a day or…
    Be kind to yourself; this site won’t survive if you don’t…
    We’ll be here regardless… 😉
    We could certainly do an open thread or two, three, four???
    Whatever; no worries…

    #56050
    John Day
    Participant

    “The UK No Longer Considers Coronavirus a High Consequence Disease”

    What’s that mean?
    In the UK “High Consequence Diseases” means that patients have to be treated at something like 5 special hospitals. Bottleneck.

    No longer designated as such means: “Treat them wherever you are, with whatever you’ve got. Don’t send them to London. Carry on!”

    I answered the chloroquine question last night when I got home from work. Here it is slightly differently formatted:
    Information on PubMed dried up in the past 2 weeks.
    March 10 review was that “hydroxychloroquine is promising, with lots of clinical trials ongoing in China and elsewhere, and we await the findings”.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0883944120303907

    The research paper which showed such good clearing of coronavirus on swabs with hydroxychloroquine, at a higher than usual dose. French investigator Dr Raoult has a good reputation, but this research was carried out at multiple sites in France and Vietnam, by multiple researchers. (Did Raoult sign off too soon?)
    https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf
    The sad fact is that the graph looked so good because they threw out the data of people who got worse and went to ICU. Throwing out a couple of data points like that in a small study makes all the difference.
    There were a lot of other procedural flaws, and it looks like the data was shaped to something that looks good, but when you look at all of it,… no such thing.

    This link is highly politicized, amounting to a hostile-peer-review, but it’s just what the doctor ordered, in this case.

    Are hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin an effective treatment for COVID-19?

    There is no actual case yet for adding azithromycin to hydroxychloroquine.
    Also, if we are not going to check blood levels, we should probably not push the dose past 200 mg BID in people with good kidneys and normal QT interval, pending good data on large numbers of cases.
    https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

    Wikipedia is pretty good on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquine
    The narrow therapeutic window is like digoxin/digitalis. 1 pill good, 2 pills dead, kind of thing.
    Low end of fatal range blood level is less than twice the upper level of therapeutic range blood level, and it distributes and hangs around a long time. You can’t just get rid of too much quickly.

    #56051
    John Day
    Participant

    This article about coronavirus treatments has good information, and no drama.
    There is not really fresh information anywhere, it seems.
    https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-covid-19-treatments.html

    #56052
    fridaymountain
    Participant

    Raul,

    Thank you for keeping track of the global COVID statistics every day. I would like to point out one thing. As a resident of New York state, I need you to understand that it takes SEVEN DAYS for people who have been tested to receive the results. Therefore, the number of confirmed cases in New York City that you quote above as being 30,000 is in reality a snapshot of what the situation was like SEVEN DAYS AGO. Please can someone do the math to figure out a more realistic picture of how many approximate infections there are in New York.

    Also, please bear in mind that many NYC residents are sick and either not getting tested or are unable to be tested. I have friends in the city who have flu-like symptoms yet their doctors are not prepared to test them. They are told to stay home and take over-the-counter medication. And this is supposedly the richest country in the world…

    #56053
    boilingfrog
    Participant

    Yes, I concur, Raul, please be kind to yourself! The work you do each day is enormous without a world-wide virus raging. Do take care.

    #56054
    zerosum
    Participant

    C
    Raul,
    I’ve got the time.
    I’m trying to help, with finding info, to fill the blanks in our understanding.
    Its my turn to help some more.
    —–
    Shit is hitting the fan for so many people in the world.
    Global responses are similar yet different. Do you believe in coincidence
    When will the experts say the truth,
    All this money is to help the connected rich.
    Say the word, JUBILEE FOR THE RICH LENDERS
    Try another concept, COORDINATED GLOBAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
    Later, I’ll explore that approach.
    ——–
    • 1/4 of $2 Trillion Stimulus Bill Devoted to Useless Accounting Gimmick (Tankus)
    ————
    You think that things are bad where you are ….
    Think again
    • California Sees 1 Million Unemployment Claims In Less Than Two Weeks (CNBC)
    (USA claims 3.3 million)

    • Cairo, The City That Never Sleeps, Shuts For Coronavirus Night-Time Curfew (R.)

    Egypt, a country of 100 million, has reported 456 confirmed cases of the coronavirus and 21 deaths.
    a two-weeks night-time curfew which ordered by the Egyptian Prime Minister Mostafa Madbouly to contain the spread of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in Cairo, Egypt March 25, 2020.

    Like other countries, Egypt has taken steps to curtail the impact on the economy, including a surprise 3% interest rate cut and an injection of 20 billion pounds ($1.27 billion) to support the stock market.
    —–

    #56055

    fridaymountain,

    We know all those things. We know all numbers are incorrect/doubtful/incomplete, and there is no way to be sure of any of it. This has nothing to do with New York, though seven days is very long. Most localities simply don’t test until someone is on the edge of death and doesn’t really need a test anymore. They do this because a) there are no test kits and b) they don’t want all those big numbers published.

    A conservative estimate would be that there are 10x as many infected people as reported in every single locality. That doesn’t mean 10x as many deaths as well, but I wouldn’t trust a single digit coming from China and Iran and many other places concerning that either.

    The only way to ever find out is to test everyone, and we’ll get there eventually, but it’ll take half a year minimum. The highest number so far appears to be South Korea, where a gigantic 0.6% of people have -allegedly- been tested.

    The best places to be soon might be those where a vast majority is considered infected; at that point social distancing makes less sense.

    #56056
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Another day we don’t admit we have a pretty solid cure?

    Another day no one died in China?

    Another day we pretend the official 400,00 cases are deaths and not cold symptoms?

    Always a good day to panic, always time to surrender.

    Never a good day for math.

    37,461 US Traffic / Year = 9,365.25 / 4 months. Corona = 685, making your daily commute 13x as dangerous. Loooooooong way from Obama’s 12,000 H1N1.

    Italy: 6,820 / 60M = 0.0113% and rates are dropping. Average age = 81
    Still half as deadly as cirrhosis of the liver, the lowest cause of death listed.
    http://www.healthdata.org/italy

    Now that we have the election-winning stimulus, can we admit we have a cure now?

    12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic”

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
    Trust doctors, trust science, trust experts, right? Nope: Panic! Follow the WHO that told us to keep those airports open!

    At Least 13 Patients Die from Coronavirus in One Day at New York Hospital (CNN)”

    420 people die every day in NYC on average.

    “China Just Sent 150,000 Test Kits to Prague and 80% of Them Didn’t Work”

    Wow, hey, what did I say about trying to provide false tests to cause a panic? Gotta stir that pot!

    Personavirus: Greta Thunberg Says Its “Extremely Likely” She Had COVID-19 Despite Never Being Tested”

    Not only can she see carbon dioxide, but can identify viruses with her naked eyes too. Superpowers! What’s that? She’s in a nation with socialized medicine and can’t get a test, just like everyone in America? Just what I thought to myself, too. If only we had Sweden’s system, we could be ignored by the government and killed in the streets, but with higher taxes and less freedom.

    NHS Could Soon Exceed Capacity – Chief Medical Officer (Ind.)”

    But socialized medicine is infinite and free!

    “Using the coin to fund government spending is often dismissed as an “accounting gimmick”

    49 + 1971 = 2020. We’ve had nothing but accounting gimmicks since 1971. And now you worry? The system is going to cease and reset. Btw, this is classic MMT, print prosperity with no cost or consequences, same as universal health care supposes. Gold rises $100.

    M95 masks: Maybe this is why we need manufacturing and employment in the U.S. with functional borders? But I’m sure the answer to get more mask machines constructed and turned on is Communism. They’re well-known for their material surpluses.

    UK Coronavirus Mass Home Testing to Be Made Available ‘Within Days’ (G.)”

    Antibody tests may be important in a different way altogether: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238638

    How Did Spain Get Its Coronavirus Response So Wrong? (G.)”

    Did they? So you’re saying we know everyone, have infinite material, infinite knowledge, and it’s preventable? In that case, I hereby give all authority over the outbreak to Giles Tremlett, Guardian Reporter. Or perhaps we can ask a different question: since so many places behaved as bad or worse, why haven’t they been affected? Is it for the above Denninger post? Discuss. Because their present, established theory makes less and less sense.

    “How much of the recent bad rap is coming from Big Pharma, which can’t make a dime on the stuff?”

    A: All of it, plus some bonus TDS. Also fewer people will die if it’s easy, quick, and available. That’s always a deep sorrow, right Greta? And if so, we won’t restart the economy, fewer will die, and Cheeto will be re-elected. It’s always worth killing infinite people to unseat Cheeto.

    “Trump’s Deadly Mistake in Comparing Coronavirus to Flu (IC)”

    I’m sorry, what’s the difference except that COVID is much less deadly and we have a cure?

    California Sees 1 Million Unemployment Claims in Less Than Two Weeks (CNBC)”

    Faster and more deadly than COVID. Yet we ache, beg, cajole, harangue, to kill people via the economy. Good work, people! Crime, murder, and suicide rates should spike shortly.

    US High Court Rejects Call To Free 736 Detainees At Risk From Coronavirus”

    As you see, not here, but elsewhere, as they empty the jails onto the public with no jobs and no oversight. Guarantee for crime. The SEP Field, “Somebody Else’s Problem”, the most powerful invisibility cloak known to man. No, Daddy Government, that will make it MY problem as I get stabbed instead. Thanks.

    Staying home: Will kill us all, not the Dow. WE are the ones who turn the economy that WE depend on for our lives. It doesn’t come from a magic Keebler Cookie tree, a magic Ventilator Goose, and a magic Bean that grows refried taco fillings. YOU do that work so if you stay home, YOU will die. And so will all your neighbors. So keep it up, schmarty-peoplez! Farmers will be happy to keep that food in the field, and riggers will be happy to keep heating oil in the wells, since that’s your hope and prayer for the Dow.

    Socialism: “The system where everybody lives at everybody else’s expense.” Killing workers since 1867.

    #56058
    zerosum
    Participant

    How is it happening.
    COORDINATED GLOBAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
    Very little of what I’m presenting has been done by the news medias.

    I’m going to look at Canada and then look how it is coordinated at a Global level.

    https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/mrgnc-mngmnt/index-en.aspx
    Responding to Emergency Events

    Emergencies are managed first at the local level
    Local authorities who need assistance request it from provincial or territorial governments. If an emergency escalates beyond their capabilities, the province or territory may seek assistance from the federal government.

    The Government Operations Centre (GOC) is the principal means by which the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness’ leadership role in establishing an integrated approach to emergency response is exercised. Housed at Public Safety Canada, the GOC, on behalf of the Government of Canada, supports response coordination of events affecting the national interest. It brings all partners into a common environment to harmonize and synchronize collective actions of those partners. The GOC operates 24/7 to provide watch, warning, analysis, planning, logistics support and coordination across the federal government and with its partners, including provincial and territorial governments, non-governmental organizations, the private sector, and international partners.

    Next level

    https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/mrgncy-mngmnt-strtgy/index-en.aspx
    Emergency Management Strategy for Canada: Toward a Resilient 2030
    Purpose
    The Emergency Management Strategy for Canada (EM Strategy) builds on the foundational principles articulated in the EM Framework and the Sendai Framework in order to establish FPT priorities to strengthen the resilience of Canadian society by 2030.

    Building on past international efforts, an important milestone in aligning the concepts of EM and DRR came in 2015, when Canada joined 187 countries at the UN General Assembly in adopting the UN Sendai Framework for Disaster Risk Reduction (2015-2030) (Sendai Framework). The Sendai Framework is a non-binding international agreement that establishes international priorities for DRR, and further creates direct linkages with UN climate change and sustainable development efforts. One of the key elements withinthe Sendai Framework is the importance of adopting a whole of society approach, which seeks to leverage existing knowledge, experience and capabilities within EM partners in order to strengthen the resilience of all. The EM Strategy helps fulfill the Government of Canada’s commitment under the Sendai Framework for a pan-Canadian DRR Strategy and aligns with the Sendai Framework’s 2030 timeline.

    Priority 4: Enhance disaster response capacity and coordination and foster the development of new capabilities
    Ensuring that FPT governments are prepared for emergencies is imperative to the safety of the population, and also facilitates more effective response and recovery efforts. To improve preparedness, we first need to focus our actions on improving EM partner training and fostering more educated and engaged citizens, followed by a focus on planning. EM exercises, implemented by the responsible FPT government(s), contribute to the testing of all-hazards plans, and validate their effectiveness. Furthermore, exercises reinforce collaboration between the various EM partners. Communicating with the population contributes not only to preparedness, but to the personal resilience necessary to cope with emergency situations. Even with the best preparedness measures in place, it is critical that the response accountabilities and capabilities of EM partners are coordinated, which cannot be undertaken in isolation. Their effectiveness is dependent upon supporting prevention, mitigation, preparedness, validation through exercising, and ultimately recovery efforts. The actions of all EM partners during the various phases of an event should be coordinated, complementary and supported by modern emergency communication systems.

    Next level

    https://www.undrr.org/

    As the UN Office for Disaster Risk Reduction, UNDRR convenes partners and coordinates activities to create safer, more resilient communities.
    The Sendai Framework
    is the global roadmap for reducing human and economic loss as a direct result of disasters.
    Where we work
    (see map)
    https://www.undrr.org/news-events/latest-news
    https://ec.europa.eu/echo/news/eu-commits-232-million-global-efforts-tackle-covid-19-outbreak_en
    EU commits €232 million for global efforts to tackle COVID-19 outbreak
    The European Commission is working around the clock to support EU Member States and strengthen international efforts to slow the spread of COVID-19.

    To boost global preparedness, prevention and containment of the virus the Commission announces today a new aid package worth €232 million. Part of these funds will be allocated immediately to different sectors, while the rest will be released in the coming months.

    “As cases continue to rise, public health is the number one priority. Whether it be boosting preparedness in Europe, in China or elsewhere, the international community must work together. Europe is here to play a leading role,” said Ursula von der Leyen, the President of the European Commission.
    Following the developments in Italy, the Commission is stepping up its support to Member States in the context of the on-going work on preparedness, contingency and response planning.

    Stella Kyriakides, Commissioner for Health and Food Safety said: “In view of the rapidly evolving situation, we stand ready to increase our assistance. In this vein, a joint expert mission of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control and the World Health Organization will depart to Italy this week to support the Italian authorities.”

    Today’s announcement comes after the news that the Commission is co-financing the delivery of more than 25 tonnes of personal protective equipment to China after the EU Civil Protection Mechanism was activated.

    An Austrian aircraft departed early 23 February morning from Vienna with protective equipment such as masks, gloves, protective clothing, and disinfectant. This comes in addition to over 30 tonnes of protective equipment mobilised by EU Member States and already delivered to China earlier this month via the EU Civil Protection Mechanism.

    Out of the €232 million aid package:

    €114 million will support the World Health Organization (WHO), in particular the global preparedness and response global plan. This intends to boost public health emergency preparedness and response work in countries with weak health systems and limited resilience. Part of this funding is subject to the agreement of the EU budgetary authorities.
    €15 million are planned to be allocated in Africa, including to the Institute Pasteur Dakar, Senegal to support measures such as rapid diagnosis and epidemiological surveillance.
    €100 million, out of which up to €90 million Public Private Partnership with the pharmaceutical industry and 10 million for research on epidemiology, diagnostics, therapeutics and clinical management in containment and prevention
    €3 million allocated to the EU Civil Protection Mechanism for repatriation flights of EU citizens from Wuhan, China.
    Publication date
    24/02/2020

    https://www.undrr.org/news/how-south-korea-suppressing-covid-19
    How South Korea is suppressing COVID-19
    25 March 2020 Author Denis McClean
    (go read the link)

    The curve peaked at the end of February and started to level off.

    “Phase three started from March 12 till now when we have seen a downward trend in new cases with sporadic new clusters of infections,” he said.

    Dr. Lee pointed out that unlike in China, more women (61.4%) than men (38.6%) were infected and the most infected demographic is aged 20-39 recorded 2,419 infections. These unique statistics were linked to members of the religious organization in Daegu.

    Nonetheless, as in China, most deaths were among older patients with underlying diseases with a mortality rate of 10% for people in their 80s.

    Dr. Lee outlined the Government’s four main policies to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

    https://www.preventionweb.net/organizations/3012
    United Nations Office for Disaster Risk Reduction – Regional Office for Arab States (UNDRR ROAS)
    The UNDRR Regional Office for Arab States provides support to countries and agencies of the 22 members of the Arab League: Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, the occupied territories of Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia,…

    (VIEW FULL PROFILE)
    https://www.preventionweb.net/news/list/#hits=20&sortby=default&view=pw&filter=unisdrcontenttype%3A%5E%22News%22%24regions%3A%5E%22Africa%22%24
    NEWS

    Why a one-size-fits-all approach to COVID-19 could have lethal consequences

    Conversation Media Group, the
    22 Mar 2020

    Right now we are facing a choice between more or less drastic measures to slow the spread of COVID-19, a virus which, at time of writing, has yet to claim a life under 10, and claims very few lives under 30, with the risk rising exponentially with age. We are putting in place measures that will lead to malnutrition and starvation for millions of people, and for these horrors, children and especially infants are the most at risk. And very many of those infants are born, and will die, in Africa.

    Yet there is little discussion of the consequences for human health of the measures we are taking. Nor is there discussion of how the major differences between Africa and America, Europe and Asia might matter. The World Health Organisation (WHO) website contains no technical guidance on how African governments should approach their considerably different contexts. The advice is the same globally, but the context is not.
    It is similarly fantastical to expect people who cannot afford food – as will soon be the case for many more – to practice personal hygiene. You can’t eat soap. If you are starving, you won’t buy it.

    Thus the major components of the recommended public health measures – social distancing and hygiene – are extremely difficult to implement effectively in much of Africa. The net effect of measures that seek to enforce social distancing may thus be to prevent people from working, without actually achieving the distancing that would slow the spread of the virus. If that is true, then we must consider whether we would be better off without them.
    (go read the article.)

    Hopefully, I have been helpful with presenting all of this material.

    #56059
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Regarding chloroquine and Covid-19, last week an article was published by a medical journal, recommending that clinical trials be done for HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) instead of CQ (chloroquine), for reasons including fewer side effects and safety during pregnancy.

    COVID-19: a recommendation to examine the effect of hydroxychloroquine in preventing infection and progression
    Dan Zhou, Sheng-Ming Dai, Qiang Tong
    Journal of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy, Published: 20 March 2020
    https://academic.oup.com/jac/advance-article/doi/10.1093/jac/dkaa114/5810487

    Gastrointestinal responses, such as vomiting and diarrhoea, are the most common adverse effects of these two drugs. Patients with long-term exposure to CQ suffer from severe side effects, such as retinopathy, circular defects (or bull’s eye maculopathy), diametric defects in the retina and cardiomyopathy. Elderly patients and usage beyond dosage limits are also associated with toxicities of CQ therapy. In contrast, HCQ has a lower level of tissue accumulation, which may explain the fact that it is associated with fewer adverse events than CQ, but still potentially influences the prevention and treatment of malaria to a similar level. Indeed, only high-dose and long-term (over 5 years) intake of HCQ is likely to contribute to the development of retinopathy, which is in agreement with the current preference of HCQ use in therapy. While CQ exerts a number of severe side effects on fetal development, HCQ is strongly recommended for pregnant patients with an autoimmune disease as it prevents the development of congenital heart block due to a potential inhibitory effect of type I interferon production. The outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 has placed many pregnant women at high risk of infection (several infected cases have been reported); HCQ, rather than CQ, should be considered as a potential therapeutic solution for these patients, given its safety profile in pregnancy. More importantly, the maximum tolerable dose for HCQ is 1200 mg, which has an antiviral effect equivalent to 750 mg CQ (for which the maximum tolerable dose is 500 mg). This indicates that HCQ can be administered at a higher dosage and may therefore achieve a more powerful antiviral effect.

    #56060
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Meanwhile, a clinical trial to see whether chloroquine can prevent Covid-19 is slated to begin in May 2020, with the study completion date in May 2022.

    Official Title: Chloroquine Prevention of Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) in the Healthcare Setting; a Randomised, Placebo-controlled Prophylaxis Study (COPCOV)
    Estimated Study Start Date : May 2020
    Estimated Primary Completion Date : May 2022
    Estimated Study Completion Date : May 2022

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04303507

    #56061
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/03/lacking-good-information.html
    Bibi Netanyahu makes good personal use of the coronavirus crisis in Israel, at the expense of almost everybody else.
    ​ By a series of moves Netanyahoo has neutralized the courts and the parliament and has thrown the country into a constitutional crisis. Even cabinet sessions are only held by telephone and without the cabinet members receiving the written proposals Netanyahoo wants them to vote on.
    Meanwhile Netanyahoo puts out new emergency regulations every day that steadily get harsher:
    Anyone who leaves their place of residence for reasons not exempted by the emergency regulations is liable to be fined up to NIS 5,000. A person who has gone beyond the permitted distance [of 100 meters] could receive an NIS 500 fine or six months’ imprisonment, while one who operates public transportation in violation of the regulations can be fined NIS 5,000 or be imprisoned for six months.
    The emergency regulations were approved last night by the cabinet.
    In which democracy can a cabinet enact imprisonment penalties without a parliament vote on an applicable law?
    Netanyahoo’s current plan seems to be to go for a fourth election. Every second day he is holding a prime time TV briefing to update the population on the corona crisis. That will likely bring him additional popularity. Even Trump’s approval numbers for handling the coronavirus crisis are at 60% despite his botched response.
    Gantz’s current majority depends on support from the Arab parties. He will have difficulties forming a stable coalitions with them. His only alternative is to ally with Likud and that would likely keep Netanyahoo at the helm. If Gantz agrees to keep Netanyahoo at the top his Blue and White party may well fall apart.
    By blocking the courts and parliament Netanyahoo wins time to make that scenario more likely.
    Meanwhile the novel coronavirus will indiscriminately affect the Jewish as well as the Palestinian population. But the Zionist racism against the Palestinians guarantees that they will get less help. As both populations can not be separated that behavior will likely increase the peak and the consequences of the outbreak for everyone. Additionally the Haredim cult members will protest against the government’s measures of prohibiting religious services and passover festivities. The current mixture of political, racial and epidemic pressure in Israel may well blow up in everyone’s face and cause serious conflagrations.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/03/netanyahoos-corona-coup.html#more

    How Did Spain Get It’s Coronavirus Response So Wrong?
    (A: By delaying drastic action until it was obviously necessary)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/spain-coronavirus-response-analysis

    Scott Ritter has the story of how a critical intelligence agency was sidelined to create a blind spot in US national response to novel coronavirus. The natural question is, “who stood this agency down, when, and why?”
    The U.S. response is something President Trump has likened to a “war,” going so far as to label himself a “wartime President,” leading the U.S. against “the toughest enemy” in a struggle in which he vows “total victory.” If the fight against the coronavirus is a war, then the virus clearly took the U.S. government by surprise. “Certainly we didn’t get an early run on it, Trump noted in a press conference on March 17. “It would’ve been helpful if we knew about it earlier.”
    ​ ​It is the job of the U.S. intelligence community to provide senior U.S. government policy makers, including the president, with advance warning about potential crises. The U.S. taxpayer pays a premium for this service; in 2020, the budget for the National Intelligence Program, which includes all programs, projects and activities of the U.S. intelligence community, was $62.8 billion.
    ​ ​Included in this budget is a small, specialized intelligence unit known as the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), which operates as part of the Defense Intelligence Agency. The mission of the NCMI is to serve as the lead activity within the Department of Defense (DoD) “for the production of medical intelligence,” and to prepare and coordinate “integrated, all-source intelligence for the DoD and other government and international organizations on foreign health threats and other medical issues to protect U.S. interests worldwide.”
    ​ ​For a small agency, the NCMI packs a large punch in terms of the overall impact of its product. For example, in April 2009—two months prior to when the WHO and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) officially declared the global outbreak of H1N1 influenza a pandemic, NCMI published an intelligence product, known as an “Infectious Disease Risk Assessment,” which predicted that a recent outbreak of the Swine Flu (H1N1) would become a pandemic.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/staggering-collapse-u-s-intelligence-coronavirus/5707525

    #56062
    zerosum
    Participant

    The is something special about the news that is gathered by the bloggers.
    The sky is falling.
    The shit is hitting the fan.
    MMT printing is bad.
    The stock market does not respond, it want to go up and see if the sky is falling.
    There is something special by the news that makes the stock market move.
    I find myself lucky to be reading TAE.

    #56063
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “a study released by Oxford finds that perhaps 50% of those in the UK have the virus and the overwhelming number experience it like the normal flu and have little symptoms. The study suggests that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment.”
    https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

    That matches Denninger. And our determined delay with tests. Because once we have a denominator, we’ll realize everybody has it.

    #56064

    We passed 500,000 global total cases at around noon EDT today.

    And the US has temporarily overtaken Italy as the number 2 in cases. Soon, maybe tomorrow, maybe Saturday, this will not be temporary anymore.

    Also, the US will overtake China as the number 1 before the day is done. About 6,300 more cases to go.

    #56065
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I will share this:

    wife is on day 3 of work at home. She gets room service breakfast and l;unch “at work” (spare bedroom) and dinner when she comes home. And the backrubs and the hot pads and the cuppa cuppas throughout the day.

    Her productivity is sky-rocketing.

    Right now I hear her singing (lovely) to her corny Xtian pop music stream (ick). She is losing weight (obesity being the defining bane of her life), eating healthier than she ever has while still getting a bit of cake etc.

    We get to boink on her lunchbreak just like we’re cheating adulterers in the backroom at Wal-Mart.

    Months from now, we may almost envy the refugees on Lesbos (it’s possible). But right now, today, all one ever has outside of memory and speculation, we are very happy, I am taking the day off from the novel-in-progress, and in many ways life has never been better for me than today.

    “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.” Hunter S. Thompson

    for my parents:

    Stillest of songs is the night
    Softest of chants is the dark.
    Softest sleepwalker, moonlight,
    Makes indistinct shadow marks.

    Nocturnal sonances seem,
    By contrast, cut-throat and stark.
    Cats’ eyes save their somberest gleam
    For poaching mice in the park.

    For everyone:

    The Best Cure

    #56066
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “The stock market does not respond, it want to go up and see if the sky is falling.”

    Why, Zero, you’re a poet!

    #56068
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    John Day, your clinic might be able to order “COVID-19 Rapid Test Cassettes” from the UK manufacturer:

    https://www.surescreen.com/products/covid-19-coronavirus-rapid-test-cassette

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    #56067
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    As for this thing being a planned, or at least heavily exploited, disaster: seems likely.

    Also seems like a good thing. We bemoan the looming loss of civil liberties, but we are not alone on this planet. The rest of the world might be pleased that we do our necessary reset without having to go nuclear head-to-head with Russia/China/India.

    That rationale is my SOLE reason for preferring bathsit Trump to ratshit Hillary. Trump doesn’t want Big War. Call him crazy (he is) but he doesn’t. (If only, or at least among other reasons, because he knows he’s impulsive when cornered and might well command a ballistic fusillade.) Hillary seemed to be part of a nearly ubiquitous agreement among the brain-drained neo-cons/neo-libs (same coin, different sides) that we can and should corner Russia.

    A Few Words on Trump

    So I for one am glad to see the creeps getting full-bore jiggy with their totalitarian impoulses. It beats dying cold, thirsty, starving, half-charred or eviscerated, in the glowing radioactive dark. Every empire takes its turn in the bucket. We were raised on stories of how Europe (an empire with revolving king-nations), China, and Russia each collapsed into horrific self-destructive totalitarian insanity. We were taught that We Are Better, just like NKoreans are taught they are ruled by divine guidance in an overweight foreign exchange student frat boy.

    It’s our turn, and I’m pleased with how things are going, all things considered, seeing as how I (and most everyone here) agree that collapse is inevitable and highly imminent to the point of being breaking news not quite yet recognized as Major History.

    I may die yet. (My lungs are guava jelly.) But my kids have a better chance without nukes, I’m thinking, and so do the rest of the world’s kids.

    Oh, our poor poor pweshuss widdle Constitution! and the surreal American fever Dream it spawned as it decomposed under its own rising swamp waters! O shining ignis fatus! Oh noes! We’re going to experience at home things like what we’ve done to others since Columbus first came here and cut off aboriginal arms just to make a point.

    Embrace your karma, repent, and get healed. (Does this hairshirt make my beard look fat? What? I have locust legs in my teeth?) And, if you’re lucky, be around to watch the next generation figure it out, occasionally even asking your advice.

    Da Twoof

    Strong instinct for survival
    Romantically insane
    Moving soft along the edge of time
    Like a panther in the rain
    Manipulated rebels
    With a total disregard for the rules
    When pride comes tumbling off the great white stallion
    You move closer to the truth
    And the search continues for the meaning
    They build the cathedrals high
    But we keep our weapons ready
    Looming dark against the sky
    They’re taking down the rain forest
    Changing it to a room without a view
    And the big trees fall like dominoes
    And we move closer
    The eagle watches from the mountain
    As the warriors turn into fools
    And the dice are thrown on sacred ground
    And they move closer to the truth
    And who’s gonna tell the children
    How the rivers used to flow cystal blue
    And we keep leaving scars on Mother Earth
    And moving closer to the truth

    #56069

    Thanks zerosum, from yesterday. One would think that should work. I have been to many different sites- general and specific to wordpress- all with the same results: the link shows up as html. If I simply type the link, the post doesn’t post, even if I leave off bits. It’s probably something too obvious- but that’s the sort of thing I miss. I’ve even tried different computers.

    We braved the real world today before we are all supposed to stay home here in my state- to buy produce and crickets (I have tortoises, bearded dragons, anoles). The store was crowded and there were no children. No one wore a mask (we don’t have any). Someone nearby coughed, so when we got home we showered, and then took a sunbath. There is one case we know of in our little town.
    My state was shown to be the least concerned of the fifty about The Virus, and I still feel that knowing there is a treatment has made me feel easier. Cuba is having good results with interferon alpha2b, as well.
    That this info is not being used to allay fears means they aren’t done trying to scare us all into submission. Imagine a year ago if someone told you that governments were going to shut down businesses- so many of whom are unlikely to survive. And then stuff billions into the pockets of the already stuffy.
    The Virus is not going to just go away in two weeks. Epidemics come in waves. What happens next?
    The Shadow [government] Knows!
    Ilargi, your stuff scares me; Dr. D, etal., your stuff makes me think something sinister is afoot. I am more afraid of the sinister than the medical.
    Ah, well. Que sera, sera.
    Oh, yeah. F**K Baraitser.

    #56070
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    ” “At Least 13 Patients Die from Coronavirus in One Day at New York Hospital (CNN)”

    “420 people die every day in NYC on average.”

    There is a birth in New York City every 4.4 minutes. 327 people are born in NYC every day.

    There is a death in New York City every 9.1 minutes. Roughly half that.

    About 1 in every 38 people living in the United States resides in New York City.

    “37,461 US Traffic / Year = 9,365.25 / 4 months. Corona = 685, making your daily commute 13x as dangerous. Loooooooong way from Obama’s 12,000 H1N1.”

    There are 102 traffic accidents a day, yes, and it’s way stupid, the entire automotive society is dumb-dumb, but that’s who we are. It’s sad but no one is working to build other means of existence since capitalism has us all working for The Man and The Man says CARS! and the people do what The Man says here just like they do in communist Narnia. It’s a constant. We’ve built large industrial/financial/service industries around keeping that death toll “manageable”. It’s how we think. Cars are “normal”. We’re a society built on shared indoctrinated norms. The Great Melting Pot. Our society is adjusted to it. Just like it is to the constant mutations of what we call “the flu” as if there were only one.

    We are not adjusted to this virus. Apples, you see, are red with crisp white interiors. Oranges are orange with soft juicy orange interiors.

    ” “Personavirus: Greta Thunberg Says Its “Extremely Likely” She Had COVID-19 Despite Never Being Tested”

    “Not only can she see carbon dioxide, but can identify viruses with her naked eyes too. Superpowers! What’s that? She’s in a nation with socialized medicine and can’t get a test, just like everyone in America? Just what I thought to myself, too. If only we had Sweden’s system, we could be ignored by the government and killed in the streets, but with higher taxes and less freedom.”

    A) Greta says it’s extremely likely. It is. She’s been traveling everywhere alla time. During a time when no one thought about contagion much less took measures. We believe people here when they think their spouse has, and might be at severe risk from, the virus. We console them. But we attack Greta, because she is BAD. Like Orange Man=Bad thinking. Russiarussiarussia is as well-supported as the bases for picking on this person as if she somehow weren’t human, as if she were the cause of Peak Oil, pollution (of which anthropgenic global climate disruption is a subset), and the way creeps like Bloomberg, Soros, et al selfishly exploit the climate situation.

    I remember my liberal friends back in the day when they bought the propaganda that Assange was “just a self-serving narcissist”. They sounded just like today’s Greta-bashers.

    B) Greta is not Sweden, and viruses really don’t have a political persuasion. srsly. Some renegade virolgist said so. Even the WHO agrees with him cuz even they’re right some times.

    “But socialized medicine is infinite and free!”

    Straw men are bad enough. Straw teenage girls are worse. But using bullshit to hold the straw together really stinks.

    ““Trump’s Deadly Mistake in Comparing Coronavirus to Flu (IC)”

    “I’m sorry, what’s the difference except that COVID is much less deadly and we have a cure?”

    We don’t have hard numbers, right? So we don’t know, right? Except China is hiding a zillion corpses cuz it’s not as bad as the flu, right? If it’s bad for experts, so-called or otherwise, honest or corrupt, to spew bullshit, maybe it’s bad for to spew bullshit also.

    a) We don’t have a cure, we just have a very powerful therapy that appears able to cut mortality rates way down if properly applied. I’m excited but calling it a cure is not correct except case by case.

    “ “California Sees 1 Million Unemployment Claims in Less Than Two Weeks (CNBC)”

    “Faster and more deadly than COVID. Yet we ache, beg, cajole, harangue, to kill people via the economy. Good work, people! Crime, murder, and suicide rates should spike shortly.”

    The economy is already Dead On Arrival. The train carrying its corpse has just been delayed by devious dubious means. Crime, murder, suicide rates will spike no matter what path we follow into the inescapable facts which are the basis of mutual understanding here at TAE. Meanwhile, and again: hard numbers. Get back to me with discernible death counts based on people forced to spend time together even if only on social media etc. outside of family/roommates rather than also spending time with people at the workplace.

    Get back to me when we’re pouring milk out into the dirt to raise prices like they did in the Depression in true socialist/communist fashion even though it happened entirely under the aegis of capitalism until the gubmint stepped in with socialist concepts in order to keep us from revolting and turning into something communistic or factiously violent rather than the friendly old fascistic capitalism we all now and, for some mysterious reason, love. Stop making this into something it isn’t. Last I heard, that was the WHO’s job.

    “Staying home: Will kill us all, not the Dow. WE are the ones who turn the economy that WE depend on for our lives.”

    I doubt farmers aren’t working. By the time harvest is full on, we’ll have enough people with immunity to harvest enough to do okay although food export sales will suffer. But sales don’t produce anything any more than printing money does. Most of the jobs people are staying home from are nonsensical make-work or more of that same old dumbass car culture/media hypnosis shit that has so impoverished us in terms of genuine physical resources and wise expenditure thereof.

    When a reset happens, a real honest fundamental reset, the price of energy will go ballistic, because USA dollars won’t buy shit-nits’ worth of foreign oil and USA wells are as weak and geriatric as your average Boomer. THEN we will see lots of deaths. Oh, lots. Unless we’re under the control of a genius benevolent dictator, which is perhaps a little more likely than the Return of Jeebus to save us all, and maybe the same thing if you’re an Evangelical Xtian.

    Staying home will increase certain kinds of deaths while decreasing others. For example, traffic fatalities. The roads are a mostly vacant breeze right now. Like lung issues from air pollution, which are taking a break right now from everything but stale roommate farts and a certain virus along with other airborne pathogens. Show me this mysterious math that shows one dominating the other, and I’ll consider this something other than sheer self-indulgent spleen-venting on your part based more on confirmation bias than rigorous data analysis.

    “Farmers will be happy to keep that food in the field”

    Seems to me they’ll cry at all the grain rotting in the dirt while their income also goes tits-up even though they’ve not stayed home and have been working their arses to the tailbone.

    You’re a brilliant man, Doc, but brilliant minds are a dime a dozen here. Honor, as in logical rigor, data hygiene, stuff like that, are what count around here, best I can tell. If I’m wrong, well hush my mouf.

    #56071
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Here’s a guess.
    Hot war is coming and I give it a 70% chance.
    You know, bombs, bullets and missiles at Venezuela (DOJ just indicted Nicolas Maduro et al for, get this, behaving as a criminal enterprise in support of drug traffickers and terrorists), Iran, Russia or China in no particular order.

    Doesn’t “behaving as a criminal enterprise in support of drug traffickers and terrorists” sound like a description of the CIA or the entire MIC as Maj. Danny Sjursen opined in his recent essay at Antiwar.com

    #56072

    500,000 global cases was at noon EDT. 3.5 hours later there were another 20,000.

    At 12.38 pm the US was 6,300 cases behind China. That is now 1,200.

    Italy temporarily took back no. 2 with 6,200 new cases announced around 1 pm. The US has already moved back to within just 500 fewer cases.

    God’s Own Country will take the definite no. 1 position sometime this afternoon, and then run away with it. The US has many fewer fatalities so far, but there, too, it will come out on top.

    All this is why America pronounced Nicolas Maduro a drug trafficker and narco-terrorist today.

    #56073
    zerosum
    Participant

    Coronavirus: Jobless claims surge to 3.3M
    Does that mean that the group life insurance coverage is terminated,and therefore, leaving the employees without health insurance?

    #56074
    zerosum
    Participant

    edit : life insurance to health

    #56076
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Dr. D Rich:

    I feel we are dumb enough to invade Benezuela for the lousy low-grade oil left in its reservoirs. Likewise, I see us hanging on to Saudi Arabia by whatever means so long as we don’t go beyond that, whereupon the Other Boys will likely fence us inside the ARabian peninsula, or even out of the Middle East entirely. But for now, I think they’d welcome us busting open that chocolate Easter egg, to borrow Dimitry Orlov’s description. It’s gonna bust any way, and might as well let us expend our resources making a relatively neutralized mess of it. Or maybe, once Russia has out-pumped and out-profited them, they’ll move in with their nice shiny reactors (like ancient Romans building aqueducts for people tired of recurrent cholera and diptheria infections), in exchange for the oil, which is very handy for some things, I’m told.

    But even those operations look increasingly dicey. I recall the once globally powerful British Empire stooping to the level of engaging with Argentina over some silly islands back in the game-changing 80s, inspiring the famous Borges quote about “two bald men fighting over a comb”.

    Best I can tell, USA political leadership really believed it could rule over Russia for its oil and other resources, which would’ve continued the petrodollar charade for quite some time, I would think. That proving unwise after Trump’s first term stymied those nonsensical plans long enough for us to learn that Russia would’ve clobbered us had we tried, the parasites in power apparently discovered they have no Plan B. Some believe the handling of this virus is Plan B. Others feel that they’re simply exploiting yet another unforeseen problem in the same way the Dubya gang exploited 911 whether they made/allowed it to happen or not. Functionally, the effect is virtually identical in both cases.

    If designating Venezuela as the new neo-terrorism target is how the parasites in power hope to distract us from our current public health concerns and their consequent economic results, I can only marvel at their vacuity. That said, the vacuity of our deeply indoctrinated and conditioned populace is also a marvel. Somehow, I don’t think even the American populace will fall for this one. However, they haven’t failed to disappoint me yet, not that I can blame them. It’s hard to jump the corral, hard to live outside the herd, and jumping back in when you’ve had enough exile tends to make a returned lone wolf all itchy and scratchy, probably because all the sheep wool suits, that the wolves of the American populace wear to convince themselves they’re not part of the biggest global predator pack in known history, are rife with vermin of the soul.

    Our new norm of record-breaking floods, heat tsunamis, chronic forest fires, violent weather, and hurricanes is just now getting started. Many regions will perhaps find nature breaking quarantine for them.

    I note that all of this is entirely self-inflicted. Should the more advanced nations decide to give us grief, perhaps making surgical cyber-attacks under cover of said natural disasters, well, that’s that much more trouble on top of a double flu season, one out of the blue and especially viral. (How virulent remains to be conclusively determined.)

    Over a lifetime of musical exploration, I find this thingie, that I first encountered at age 18, to be my favorite piece of lyrically inclined music. Sort of a desert isle pick:

    Pastorale by Igor Stravinsky

    A miraculous if devastating century, the 20th.

    #56077
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Benezuela.”

    Long live King Ben!

    #56078
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I may die yet. (My lungs are guava jelly.) ”

    EIther I believe I’m potentially immortal, or I meant “during this virus pandemic”. Considering my belief in an afterlife, I guess bof dem’s true.

    #56079
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “The store was crowded and there were no children. No one wore a mask (we don’t have any).”

    Not even scarves or bandanas? Or family heirloom gorilla masks?

    #56080
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Bosco, no argument from me.

    Sept 2001, they/we weaponized the law, with the AUMF, Patriot Act, and abusive prosecution of any swarthy, disloyal appearing schmuck who got in our way. Here we go again with Maduro and martial not-martial law.

    Sept 2001, they/we weaponized Medicine. Torture became a higher moral & ethical calling to justice in defense of the nation than the Hippocratic oath and Geneva protections. And we paid Mitchell and Jessen Psych Associates $81 million to torture folk under the Gina Haspel’s leadership. Now , medically, we’re all commanded to hide in our houses.

    Sept 2001 we/they weaponized Anthrax but it only ruined a few lives without causing the Herd to panic. Today we just have at least 5 pathological COVID-19 strains and the herd better panic or else we’re gonna lose the remnants of the lives which were destroyed by economic austerity over the past 12-19 years .

    They turned friend into foe. They turned family against each other. They pathologized generosity and gift giving. In my life, they turned colleague against colleague, inverted the chain of command, and turned groom against best man. They celebrated venality and competition over competency and ethical comportment.

    #56082
    zerosum
    Participant

    heheheheh

    Someone with a great computer program put in the variable … the answer was 2024.

    Now, they had to find a way to do a jubilee that would save the connected elites.

    The virus was their excuse to print and hide their mistakes.

    JUST THINK OF HOW MANY PROBLEMS THAT ARE FIXING OR ELIMINATED.

    This has nothing to do with D or R. or any ISM.

    THIS IS ABOUT SURVIVAL OF THOSE CONNECTED ELITES.

    Yep!
    We are slaves and willing slaves.
    —–
    Pompeo is still doing the war talk.
    He has trained troops that are coming home, even tho they are on lock down on their base, as they get infected and die.
    He is announcing all kinds of successful warring actions.
    Even thinking of putting troops on the northern border to keep Canadians in Canada.
    What a dummb ass, look at the border cameras, Canadians don’t want to go to USA.

    #56083
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    It seems the new econimic transitory paradigm has reached Portland area internet. Looking up a youtube thing, I was given an ad for Centrum featuring VITAMIN C! followed by the Taco Bell chiming uncommonly proud as it declared with great social benevolence and patriotic fervor that it’s drive-thru is OPEN!!!!

    Poor advertizing industry. It’s gonna get dizzy and ‘splode at some point not far off, lessen the government hires it on as its new Orwellian Mandate broadcast system beforehand.

    If I’m watching Big Bro watching me, is it more or less kinky than just Him stroking his panopticones as He watches me?

    #56084
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “and abusive prosecution of any swarthy, disloyal appearing schmuck ”

    Whew! Good thing I’m not swarthy!

    #56086
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “They turned friend into foe. They turned family against each other. They pathologized generosity and gift giving. In my life, they turned colleague against colleague, inverted the chain of command, and turned groom against best man.”

    Aye, and I sometimes think I smell a Robespierre snoring in the woodplie soon to emerge, hungover and grumpy. They do the above too much, see, and people gets to talking to each other once the $$ bonds that bond them, that let them tolerate each other’s stinky ass, financially evaporate. Or even burn for a bit of winter’s heat.

    The world no longer needs us as a market except by fomal inertia. That form is rapidly changing and soon it’s inertia will become centrifugal angular momentum spinning us away the general world’s newly forming center somewhere in Eurasia between Russia and China.

    Before 911, the Patriot Act, and our re-embrace of torture after a brief lull, it was illegal to write so tortured a metaphor as above.

    But no worries rries, we’re safe: Already irked fans threaten boycott over Marvel’s new Hydra campaign It should’ve been a simple T-shirt promotion, but some fans believe it has harmful political connotations.

    Remember: Obi Wan is coming to save us, with Yoda at His right-sabre hand and the Holy Force on His left. Let us pray:

    Obi-wan-kanobi, Obi-wan-kanobi…

    #56132

    Bosco-
    “Crowded” in this small town still let people keep pretty good distance from each other, but six feet seems silly when the aerosol hangs in the air for three hours. I wore a loose turtleneck fleece shirt, and tucked my face in when the guy coughed. I do that all winter- I am a dark season germaphobe. If someone sneezes in the aisle one over, I forego crackers ’til the next time.
    You probably won’t see this- but I came back to read the late night posts- you were on a roll.

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