May 27, 2021 at 5:50 pm #76063Polder DwellerParticipant
I’m an occasional doom-monger myself, but Michael Reid and Dr. D have set the bar really high today. Still, I’ll give it a go.
It seems that a lot of the readership, like me, isn’t keen on getting the vaccine – and for good reason. However, I wonder how many of you are really like me in knowing absolutely no-one personally who has not either already had the vaccine or who plans to get it in the next few weeks. In my circles, I am in a minority of one. Taken to the extreme as suggested by Michael, that means that within just a few years absolutely everyone I know will be dead including wife and daughters. Yippee, I’m still alive! … Oh shoot. That doesn’t sound like too much fun to me. In addition, I can’t believe that if within the next, say, five years something like 50% or more of the population kicks the bucket, that the country will continue to function in a stable way, especially with the Chinese banging on the door.
Maybe I’m just going to have to bite the bullet and get the vaccine, at least I’d be in good company.May 27, 2021 at 5:54 pm #76064Maxwell QuestParticipant
When the ‘senior care home’ owner brushed off my comment about reporting the four deaths in the VAERS database I was given the impression that this was never done. I believe he runs two homes, one with men and the other with women. Assuming he has six clients per home, four vaccine-related deaths would equal 33% of his clients.May 27, 2021 at 5:58 pm #76065upstateNYerParticipant
@ DarkMatter: thank you!May 27, 2021 at 6:18 pm #76067cloudhiddenParticipant
my last 2 posts, one yesterday and a previous one today did not appear?
I am fortunate to know several who will not get the vaccination.
Unfortunately I also know many more have or will.May 27, 2021 at 6:44 pm #76068Doc RobinsonParticipant
DarkMatter: “Germ stated that 2) is correct and that the ‘vaccine’ creates many more spike proteins than infections would. Does anyone else have additional insight?”
I’d like to see the calculations behind that. During a Covid infection, the number of viruses in the body is estimated to peak at somewhere between 1 billion and 100 billion. Each individual virus has many spike proteins.
We estimate that each infected person carries 10^9-10^11 [1 billion -100 billion] virions during peak infection, with a total mass of about 1 μg-0.1 mg, which curiously implies that all SARS-CoV-2 virions currently in the world have a mass of only 0.1-1 kg.
I haven’t seen any clear information about how many molecules of mRNA are in each dose, and how many spike proteins can result from each mRNA molecule.May 27, 2021 at 6:47 pm #76069maryballonParticipant
There are two English “Tims” with blogs. Both focus on the fragility of our way of life in the West in the face of depleting energy availability.
#200. Other roads, part one
As far as I can see, no one has come up with a definitive link between our concerns about the “pandemic” and Peak Oil except Gail Tverberg
https://ourfiniteworld.com/author/gailtheactuary/May 27, 2021 at 7:02 pm #76070
Rand Paul: “Fauci Cannot Investigate Himself; Get Him Under Oath”
Hahahaha ….. Hehehehehe
The fox is going to investigate the hen house.
“the gain of function research”
Everybody is doing it.
Everybody is lying.
Everybody is shipping and sharing virus, experimental procedures
Everybody is sharing virus
Everybody is sharing experimental procedures
Everybody needs someone to validate the experiments.May 27, 2021 at 7:19 pm #76071Dr. DParticipant
“Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long-stem rose
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe’s still picking cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows
And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it’s moving fast
Everybody knows.” –Leonard CohenMay 27, 2021 at 7:37 pm #76072my parents said knowParticipant
When I think of the astonishing technology involved in these injections, I wonder where else it may be deployed, and it gives me waking nightmares.
Interestingly, I was trying to dig up any news on current fertility frustrations on DDGo. Maybe my mind is closing, but I didn’t see a single one I wanted to visit. I wonder why they even bother with “multiple news outlets”, ’cause there seems to be only one news feed.
We got the code for the spiked protein from the Chinese. We took it on faith.* We “tested” for it with a dodgy PCR, then we injected the instructions for how to make it into millions of people.
It’s elegant, actually. Sun Tzu would be proud.
*or maybe we trusted them for a reason…
Cladogenesis: when a species suddenly splits in two, as in punctuated equilibrium.May 27, 2021 at 8:19 pm #76073
Big news if you’re in the UK:
No hiding it now.May 27, 2021 at 8:22 pm #76074Mr. HouseParticipant
I’d still like to know if that police officer who died after Jan 6th had been jabbed.May 27, 2021 at 8:24 pm #76075
Interesting look at the mRNA that codes for ‘the spike’May 27, 2021 at 8:28 pm #76076RototillermanParticipant
@Polder Dweller: at my workplace of about 100 persons the vaccine defiance is at least 50% or higher. So there are pockets of resistance. In our case it is driven by a combination of factors: mostly conservative politically, people were acutely aware of the media bias against Trump and thus were quick to spot inconsistencies in the narrative and recognize the way in which the masking and vaccine policy were being used to political ends, not purely for health reasons (for a while a friend of mine was wearing a mask with a message printed on it: “This mask is as useless as my Governor”). We also have a sizable group of ethnic Russians, and they can smell a totalitarian roll-out a mile away – they’ve already lived under it, literally. And of course I’ve been quietly talking to people in small groups about what is coming, and as bits of that materialize it reinforces skepticism.May 27, 2021 at 8:29 pm #76077May 27, 2021 at 8:30 pm #76078Doc RobinsonParticipant
This article gives some details about the number of mRNA molecules are in each dose of Pfizer’s vaccine.
Each dose includes 30 micrograms of RNA.
The RNA’s digital code has 4,284 characters.
If the author’s calculations are correct, then there are 13,000 billion (or 13 trillion) RNA molecules per dose.
The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine has this digital code at its heart. It is 4284 characters long, so it would fit in a bunch of tweets… A 30 microgram dose turns out to actually contain 30 micrograms of RNA. In addition, there is a clever lipid (fatty) packaging system that gets the mRNA into our cells… Each RNA character weighs on the order of 0.53·10⁻²¹ grams, meaning there are around 6·10¹⁶ characters in a single 30 microgram vaccine dose. Expressed in bytes, this is around 14 petabytes, although it must be said this consists of around 13,000 billion repetitions of the same 4284 characters.
The same article mentions that each of those mRNA molecules can be used many times by the cell (to make spike protein) before it degrades and gets discarded.
The very end of mRNA is polyadenylated. This is a fancy way of saying it ends on a lot of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…
mRNA can be reused many times, but as this happens, it also loses some of the A’s at the end. Once the A’s run out, the mRNA is no longer functional and gets discarded.
Reverse Engineering the source code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine
https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/May 27, 2021 at 8:34 pm #76079
There’s a new kid on the block!
Do I laugh or cry?May 27, 2021 at 8:36 pm #76080
Thanks for that Doc – 50 billion would be in the ball park area then. Certainly for the potential number of spikes produced after ‘vaccination’.May 27, 2021 at 8:39 pm #76081May 27, 2021 at 8:43 pm #76082
Bret Weinstein’s taking IVM too!May 27, 2021 at 8:51 pm #76083Polder DwellerParticipant
That sounds like a lot healthier situation than here in Holland where people are jumping the queue to get their shot just a few weeks earlier than the other guy and everyone seems to believe everything that’s said on TV about the virus and the vaccines as if it’s God’s honest truth. Everyone (I know at least) also believes that the sooner everyone gets vaccinated the sooner we can all get back to normal. I’m expecting massive cognitive dissonance in the autumn when things work out a little differently.May 27, 2021 at 9:09 pm #76084
They’re making you sit in a box!
Amazon's Leila Brown used her background in sports medicine and her passion in alternative therapies to create a space where our employees could focus on their mental well-being. https://t.co/bvk2bw9Lke pic.twitter.com/cEQhsTH0Od
— Amazon News (@amazonnews) May 26, 2021
Bezos must be laughing so, so hard.May 27, 2021 at 9:26 pm #76085
Global central bank balance sheets collectively approaching $26 trillion!
Watch out – “She’s gonna blow”!!May 27, 2021 at 9:46 pm #76086
Wake up folks …
“Stephane Bancel, president and CEO of Moderna. “This agreement builds on our strategy of partnering with leaders in critical fields of medicine, from AstraZeneca, Alexion, Merck and DARPA to our recently announced collaboration with the Karolinska Institutet, to advance the development of mRNA-based drugs and vaccines across multiple therapeutic areas.”
This shit is real …May 27, 2021 at 9:50 pm #76087
Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel (now a billionaire equity shareholder) was previously CEO of bioMérieux.
Merieux Institute held annual ‘Mérieux Chinese Research Network’ meetings with scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, including Zhengli Shi, who was conducting gain of function research on bat viruses & worked alongside EcoHealth’s Peter Daszak.
Connect the dots …
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ……… ?May 27, 2021 at 9:53 pm #76088
Merieux Institute worked with the Chinese government to “share data and jointly research on the pathogens carried by bats” in Africa in 2015. Merieux Foundation has maintained a ‘close relationship’ with the Chinese Government since 1965.May 27, 2021 at 9:57 pm #76089
Merieux Institute held annual ‘Mérieux Chinese Research Network’ meetings with scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, including Zhengli Shi, who was conducting gain of function research on bat viruses & worked alongside EcoHealth’s Peter Daszak.May 27, 2021 at 10:00 pm #76090
Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel was in charge of “industrial microbiology” in Asia-Pacific for BioMereiux from 1995-98, before joining Eli Lilly and becoming their ‘Global Supply Chain Manager’ for drugs like Prozac, etc.
Do you want to go down this rabbit hole too ?May 27, 2021 at 10:01 pm #76091
Pick a word to describe USA democracy
a persistent feeling of ill will or resentment resulting from a past insult or injury.
a feeling of anger because you have been forced to accept something that you do not like.
reprisal, requital, retaliation, retribution, revenge, vengeanceMay 27, 2021 at 10:02 pm #76092
Moderna CEO Bancel was on the board of the Merieux Foundation USA (until at least 2019), which was funding & working at the Wuhan Institute of Virology P4 lab since 2017.
What does Bancel know about the coronavirus research conducted at the WIV?May 27, 2021 at 10:06 pm #76093
Boris Nikolic, who tried to set up a biotech investment fund with Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Gates & JPMorgan, is now working with Moderna co-founder Robert Langer to build a “medical record embedding vaccination information into the skin”
(Nikolic – see far right in picture)May 27, 2021 at 10:09 pm #76094
In 2011 a virologist named Nathan Wolfe writes a book called
“The Viral Storm: The Dawn of a New Pandemic Age”
Of the ~16 friends Wolfe thanks for adding time/unique skills to this book we find:
– Jeffrey Epstein
– Boris Nikolic
– Linda StoneMay 27, 2021 at 10:10 pm #76095Michael ReidParticipant
@ mary balloon
You may find this article interestingMay 27, 2021 at 10:11 pm #76096
BioMerieux/Merieux Foundation also does a lot of work in Haiti, and founded a BSL3 lab in Port au Prince in 09.
Bill Clinton supports Merieux’s operations in Haiti, and Merieux Foundation is a donor to Clinton Foundation.
Lotta’ rabbits down this hole …..May 27, 2021 at 10:14 pm #76097
California – “Vax for The Win”May 27, 2021 at 10:36 pm #76098
Obama on vaccines – “these vaccines work, and they are safe” , “millions of doses, seen almost no adverse consequences …”
It is remarkable… pic.twitter.com/aFTJTwC1NF
— Wittgenstein (@wittgenstein78) May 27, 2021
Yeah sure – tell that to the kids’ parents:
15 YEAR OLD boy dies of a heart attack 2 days after taking the pfizer vaccine, followed shortly after a 1 year old boy having convulsions and seizures dying 2 days later after the moderna vaccine and the other, a 2 year old girl who 5 days after having the pfizer vaccine is dead
Politicians: If their lips are moving then they’re lying!May 27, 2021 at 10:44 pm #76099
Europe: no correlation between vaccinations and rate of Covid transmission.
Cases, hospitalizations and deaths declining everywhere in Europe regardless of vaccination status.May 27, 2021 at 10:44 pm #76100
None of the CEE nations shown have even 10% of their population fully vaccinated and yet Covid case counts have plummeted in each state, after a late Winter peak.May 27, 2021 at 10:58 pm #76101
You have produced links that expand on ….
“the gain of function research”
Everybody is doing it.
and we are not in that club.
I went deeper into Your link
https://www.virosin.org/index.htm (home page)
Another good place to get original publications.
(I could not load the pdf)
mRNA Vaccines: Possible Tools to Combat SARS-CoV-2
Changhua Yi, Yongxiang Yi, Junwei Li
2020, 35(3): 259 doi: 10.1007/s12250-020-00243-0
Received: 20 March 2020 Accepted: 18 May 2020 Published: 10 June 2020
Inspite of emergent need, no authorized vaccines have been approved for clinical use against this new virus currently. After the genetic map of SARS-CoV-2 was shared, scientists and biotech and vaccine companies promptly launched a race to pursue different types of vaccines to prevent illness from this novel virus.May 27, 2021 at 11:04 pm #76102
I just noticed that a couple of my links don’t work.
Delete ” 900×900 ” and replace with ” medium ” – then they’ll work.
Apologies.May 27, 2021 at 11:39 pm #76103ctbarnumParticipant
They have to get us good and drunk first for the spike protein. Spiked beer for a spiked vaccine?
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