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    Franco Fontana Prague 1967   • US To Authorize Pfizer Vaccine For Ages 12-15 Early Next Week (R.) • Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely In The U
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 4 2021]

    #74419
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Franco Fontana Prague 1967

    Great point of view; not often seen…

    That’s enough for today; tempus fugit (time fly’s)

    #74420
    Germ
    Participant

    Why would you get a shot if you already had Covid?

    Shit medical advice – that’s why!

    Paralyzed After 2nd COVID Shot:

    #74421
    Germ
    Participant

    “I’m not saying don’t get your vaccine” 🤣🤣🤣

    Oh no.
    I’m just paralyzed!
    Now, hurry and get that poison shot!

    #74422
    Germ
    Participant

    “When variants of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) emerged in late 2020, concern arose that they might elude protective immune responses generated by prior infection or vaccination, potentially making re-infection more likely or vaccination less effective.”

    “The investigators asked whether CD8+ T cells in the blood of recovered COVID-19 patients, infected with the initial virus, could still recognize three SARS-CoV-2 variants: B.1.1.7, which was first detected in the United Kingdom; B.1.351, originally found in the Republic of South Africa; and B.1.1.248, first seen in Brazil.”

    “In their study of recovered COVID-19 patients, the researchers determined that SARS-CoV-2-specific CD8+ T-cell responses remained largely intact and could recognize virtually all mutations in the variants studied.”

    https://www.technologynetworks.com/immunology/news/sars-cov-2-variants-still-recognized-by-t-cells-347278

    https://academic.oup.com/ofid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ofid/ofab143/6189113

    #74423
    Germ
    Participant

    Well, well, well,
    Wouldn’t you know it!

    “It’s a brand new type of test, just approved by the FDA for emergency use, that seems to more accurately track whether someone has previously been infected with COVID-19.

    ” …the FDA approved the T-Detect COVID test, a brand new technology developed by the company Adaptive Biotechnologies in a partnership with Microsoft.”

    https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/03/15/newly-approved-t-cell-test-is-a-more-accurate-way-to-tell-if-youve-had-covid-19-experts-say/

    We are being played like violins!

    #74424
    Germ
    Participant

    This is what’s coming.
    A T-cell test to see if you have immunity.

    Home

    #74427
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I may be the wrong person to say it, but solutions aren’t coming from here or in opinions. Those, like the news, are just to fill the time and create discussion.

    Solutions come from creating an alternative. One that works better and cheaper than the existing. While this is hard, the powers have made it easy for us. Every man who isn’t watching Woke sports is now doing something real and useful. Every time they annoy us into not drinking Coke, we might try something non-deadly. When half the banking money is stolen profiteering, we move to cryptos. When they ban all “unclean”, the unclean become their own independent nation, allied with themselves at last.
    But one reason I don’t promote a lot of solutions is that problems are general but solutions are specific. Your age, location, income, influence, personality.

    Biden-Carter. They’re not wearing masks, shouldn’t he be arrested for murder? I mean, that’s what they’d do to me.

    “the vaccine had been found to be safe, effective and produced robust antibody responses in 12- to 15-year-olds”

    This is false. They have no data and no idea whether it’s safe even a year from now. 10 years of mRNA studies showed it’s pointedly UNsafe.

    But it’s “The Guardian”, so “It’s False, Guaranteed!” (This message has been approved and paid for by MI6)

    “Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the US, Experts Now Believe (NYT)”

    Can they propose a single logic, scientific reason for this? (A: No) EVERY disease, EVER, in ALL history, EVER, has reached herd immunity. That’s why the human race exists.

    But it’s “The New York Times”, so “It’s False, Guaranteed!” (This message has been approved and paid for by MI6)

    “The virus is unlikely to go away,”

    Yes, true. And we will become immune or die, just like the last 100,000 years. I mean, unless you propose suspending physics in your new Utopia. (Spoiler: they are, and do)

    Funny thing we realized on the way to the funeral parlor to bury our friends”

    …Was that it is claimed in India that it’s the people who WERE vaccinated that died. Like KY nursing homes. And like all the mRNA tests to date, which is why it was never approved. mRNA works, just as it’s working now, ¡¡BUT!! Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttt, when they were subsequently exposed to the disease they were vaccinating against, their body overreacted and they did WORSE, killing many. And it’s not hard to see why. In natural immunity, your body identifies and mobilizes from a single point in a long game of cellular “telephone”. In mRNA test subjects, every cell mobilizes instantly, without time. They then over-react and have a cytokine storm, one of the major killers.

    …And this is aside from the spike protein being itself very deadly, which you’re forcing the body to produce and send to blood clots around the body. Like the tiny vessels in the brain. Oh and then out the body to your grandma. So they’re seeing EXACTLY what they saw in the 10 years of failed studies, as well as the other added dangers. Wot a shock! Who knew when you ran the same experiment in Science, you get the same results??? Nobody ever tried repeating experiments before (according to Lancet, NEJM, and other science papers. Some 80% of all “Science” was unrepeatable, and some known fraction of that was discovered as open fabrication. So proud.)

    John Hopkins is *Done*. Hahahahahahahaaha!!! Just kidding. Nobody cares. They can kill another million and you’ll still defend them to the death and sacrifice your children (via tuition and terrible, terrible schooling) to them.

    “England To Pilot Daily Covid Tests As Way To Avoid Self-isolation (G.)”

    This is why they wanted centralized, computer medical records. Then Julian Assange and Glen Greenwald accidentally come back “positive”, every day of the rest of their lives. And Congressman Greene if the election goes wrong. Awwww. Tut tut my love.

    DeSantis: Hey, are the least locked down locations also the safest by far? Discuss.

    Does that go for guns too? Discuss.

    “‘Far More Likely’ Coronavirus Came From Lab, Ex-MI6 Chief (LBC)”
    9 out of 10 experts agree. That leaves Kyle from Facebook censorship group and Kamala’s paid-for bot army. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP7HAyQXwoY

    Don’t worry: experts have facts and write them down. That’s why you can be sure no one will read them. After Biden’s laptop the safest place for facts in the West is on a written, official document. You know, like CDC research. Then you know it will never, ever be read.

    “These extremists have not yet been held accountable, so they continue to escalate violence against the body public …”

    Words are violence. But luckily, Violence is NOT violence. A ≠ A. See how that works? Burn down all the (black) cities you want!! And I know, you’re going to kill me and everyone I know, you’ve been saying it (and doing it) for decades, blah blah blah.

    “Moscow Has Plan to Ditch US Dollar & Axe Dependency on West (Gavin)”

    We have heard from traders that the US$ is at 60% worldwide. (that seems high to me) So they are finally capable of going around the U.S. Problem, ironically, demonstrating #OppositeLand, is that if any nation created a decent, non-horrible, non-thieving currency, it would instantly rise so fast it would destroy all production from any nation associated with it. Like Switzerland, but without their generations of coping measures.

    Anyhoo, it’s not just Russia. Doge is superior to the US$.

    Adaptive Biotechnologies in a partnership with Microsoft.””

    I always trust Microsoft on viruses. When have they ever let anything bad happen?

    Chop wood, carry water. You will be soon anyway, when the communists take over. And losing a lot of weight.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-propose-fighting-obesity-by-switching-to-communism

    It works! 300 million people can’t be wrong!

    #74428
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    A test to see if you have immunity? But isn’t that at the heart of this whole scam, i.e., a healthy person’s immunity system might reject the virus via other defenses (b-cells, t-cells, skin, nose hair, etc.) before the virus even gains enough foothold to require the production of anti-bodies.

    Common sense dictates that a normal healthy person is at minimal risk even when expose to the virus hence the impressive 80% of people that did not become sick on the Diamond Princess.

    But instead of common sense, the whole world seems to be afflicted by that horrible childhood disease called cooties. You remember that one? The uncool dorky kid always had cooties and heaven forbid if he touched you because then you had it too. It was an invisible, merciless death wish of a disease that could only be cured by your mother talking some sense into you when she exposed the other kids as either pranksters or frauds.

    #74429
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Before heading off to other things, I’ll note here that the puppet masters’ grand scheme fails when it comes to entities like Russia, which is slated to soon become the new Leader of the Free World. When dealing with a genuinely proactive power structure such as Putin’s Russia, the reactinary numbskull inbred entitlementi of the Euromerican bankster elites fall on their sword.

    ^&*

    @ Dr. D

    “I may be the wrong person to say it, but solutions aren’t coming from here or in opinions. Those, like the news, are just to fill the time and create discussion.

    Solutions come from creating an alternative. One that works better and cheaper than the existing. While this is hard, the powers have made it easy for us. Every man who isn’t watching Woke sports is now doing something real and useful. Every time they annoy us into not drinking Coke, we might try something non-deadly. When half the banking money is stolen profiteering, we move to cryptos. When they ban all “unclean”, the unclean become their own independent nation, allied with themselves at last.”

    Agreed except for the word “just” in the second sentence. Positively useful info/ideas do appear here at TAE and places like it.

    “But one reason I don’t promote a lot of solutions is that problems are general but solutions are specific. Your age, location, income, influence, personality.”

    Disagree. Problems are also specific. Valid general principles are the basis of specific solutions to specific problems caused by general trends.

    #74430

    It infuriates me that the vaccine is considered a factor in “getting rid” of the virus. It’s the biggest reminder of how illogical the vast majority really are. [is?]
    “Anti-vaccine aggression” my eye.
    When will the various governors begin to see there may be a devastating health crisis- a real one- coming to their states?

    Cooties, cooties everywhere-
    All people harbor dangers!
    We used to be great friends but now
    We may as well be strangers.
    (From 1 Aug 2020)

    Something made up for the Babylon Bee: “Satellites Determine Actual Population of the World Estimated to be 5 Billion”
    “Phantom folks make up much of the world’s population. Voter rolls, financial aid, and bragging rights may have pushed the number of people in the world to 7.8 billion, experts say. ‘These people don’t actual exist,’ Prof. Norm Tritiak said in an interview with the Babylon Bee.

    #74431
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Clotting and Covid Vaccine “Science”

    Simply put: there is overwhelming evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein [that is also synthetically produced by the Covid vaccines] is a central part of the mechanisms of morbidity and mortality of SARS-CoV-2, and therefore is also a risk of the vaccine. In regard to clotting, that risk is greater if you receive a vaccine.

    The data clearly demonstrate that the last thing you would ever want to do, is make a vaccine that produces a spike protein. As the literature clearly showed it would cause significant damage including brain clots and death. And that literature, for the most part was available before the release of Covid vaccines to the public.

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/clotting-and-covid-science

    #74432
    zerosum
    Participant

    “Pandemic Monkeys” – Individuals, will see what they want to see. Hear what they want to hear. Believe what they want to believe.

    “super-spreaders”

    “herd immunity”

    “Big Lie”

    #74433
    Germ
    Participant
    #74435
    zerosum
    Participant

    Their accountants and lawyers know how to minimize the tax implications on 150 billions
    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/here-everything-we-know-about-how-bill-and-melinda-plan-divide-their-150-billion-fortune

    #74436
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    I took the liberty of including a couple of [clarifications] that were inadvertently lost in the Russian to English translation:

    “Unfortunately,” the diplomatic spokeswoman said, “the reality of our time has been the increased use of politically motivated unilateral measures by some Western states, mainly the US. We see the sanctions against Russia more and more as a ‘gesture of desperation’ due to the inability of elites [greedy oligarchic psychopaths] to accept the new realities, abandon their collective groupthink [total global hegemony], and recognize Russia’s right to determine its own development path and build relations with its partners.” – Maria Zakharova

    #74437
    zerosum
    Participant

    http://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/
    SPECIAL REPORT
    The story of mRNA: How a once-dismissed idea became a leading technology in the Covid vaccine race
    By Damian Garde — STAT and Jonathan Saltzman — Boston Globe Nov. 10, 2020

    #74438
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ my parents said know

    “It infuriates me that the vaccine is considered a factor in “getting rid” of the virus. It’s the biggest reminder of how illogical the vast majority really are. [is?]”

    Not illogical, imo, just weakly logical. Trained to get simple linear answers to simple linear questions. They’re highly logical in what they do: submit to authority and do what it tells them to.

    #74439
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    We Do What We’re Told… until we don’t.

    #74440
    Noirette
    Participant

    Some Extra Links. All worth a look, imho.

    *MSM* (and such articles aare becoming more frequent as far as I can tell), the Standard, UK:

    More than 500 people admitted to hospital with coronavirus after getting vaccinated

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-vaccine-uk-500-admitted-hospital-b932792.html

    So-called ‘opposition’ or ‘dissident’ MSM on the Intertubes, UK.

    A Vaxxing Question, from Off Guardian.

    A Vaxxing Question

    “Science” …:

    SARS-CoV-2-derived peptides define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T cell recognition

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00808-x.pdf

    A Cross-Country Analysis of the Determinants of Covid-19 Fatalities

    CESifo Working Paper No. 902

    https://www.cesifo.org/en/publikationen/2021/working-paper/cross-country-analysis-determinants-covid-19-fatalities

    #74441
    a kullervo
    Participant

    “A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe)

    Too bad God also implanted in some souls the penchant for sadism or for masochism.

    “The science says it’s not harmless; it is in fact pathogenic. The CDC is lying and as a result people are dying.” (Denninger)

    We all die:
    From the disease, from the cure – ultimately from life itself,- ideally under some self-construed notion of dignity.

    So sad to see the “you die” moronic “reasoning” being used by the pro-vaxxers and anti-vaxxers alike; we all go through some sort of cycle in The Unavoidable – nothing you can do but to play your part in the cosmic interplay.

    Anabolism – Catabolism – Limit

    (May those who believe it can be overcome never lose their hopes & dreams.)

    #74442
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Shared merely for the weirdness of it all:

    Dangerous Faggot

    #74443
    Noirette
    Participant

    Arte:

    Provence and the Black Death.

    “In the Vaucluse mountains, a long dry stone wall runs the length of the landscape. This is a wall erected against an invisible enemy: the plague. In the 18th century, a massive outbreak wiped out a third of the population of Marseille, and today, the wall still stands as a monument to the many victims of that epidemic.”

    Here French with eng subs. 14 mins.

    https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/102870-003-A/provence-and-the-black-death/

    #74444
    Topcat
    Participant

    I thought it was Fauci as Faust

    I was wrong.

    It’s Fauci as Mengele

    Mengele

    #74445
    Topcat
    Participant

    Bill ‘Judas Goat’ Gates is getting a divorce.

    I wonder what he’ll hookup with next.

    I guess to be technologically singular, you have to be divorce.

    Also divorced from sanity, reason, decency, compassion, empathic and Reality.

    Judas Goat Gates of Hell

    #74446
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Ah yes, Milo Yiannopolous, author of the most pathetic and desperate attempt to stay relevant I think I have ever witnessed.

    #74447
    Topcat
    Participant

    Karl Denninger’s piece on accountability for the mass murderers of ten of thousands like Fauci, fails to factor in the pure impotence of the court system, starting with gutless utter corrupt judges.

    There won’t be any lawsuits allowed, the judges, nationwide, will simple refuse, en mass, to hear the cases.

    Just like the election fraud. They’ll just give universal blanket protection to anyone involved in any capacity with implementing masks, lockdowns or ‘vaccines’.

    I simply don’t see any recourse in the courts, they’re sick jokes.

    And the lack of legal accountability seems global, not just in the West.

    The Nuremberg Codes are officially a joke folks.

    Those are showers, not gas chambers

    #74448
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The JTN story on Ron DeSantis motivated me to look at the graph of coronavirus cases for my home state of Wisconsin and see if our brief lockdown period (which started at the end of March of last year, and then the state supreme court nixed it at the end of May of last year) had any effect on daily new cases. There was none that I could see. Like many states, we had our big surge starting on Labor Day weekend and tamping back down at the beginning of March this year. One could speculate that people traveling out of state for the LDW could have brought a lot of new cases into the state, but I am inclined to doubt that, if only because I have no idea how many people normally travel out-of-state for that occasion. (There are plenty of perfectly nice places right here to spend a holiday weekend anyway.)

    The peak of our big surge was during the month of November, and the end of that month was when my best friend from the high-school daze probably got infected, causing him to get sick and miss a month of work and spend four days in the hospital right before Xmas. (It makes me so mad to think he came so close to needing to go on a ventilator and they couldn’t just give him Ivermectin.) So the only conclusion I could draw for Wisconsin from looking at the graph was that the pandemic likely has a strong seasonal effect.

    Right now we seem to be doing alright for a US state, with an average of about 700 new cases a day in a state of six million people. It was ten times that much at the height of the big surge.

    #74449
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    FWIW, the CDC finally updated their numbers for estimated total Covid infections, which amount to 114.6 million, or about 34% of the US population (even after I deducted the official number of Covid fatalities, almost 0.6 million, since they are no longer part of the population). This is for the period from from February 2020–March 2021.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

    #74450
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Your current form is in flux from pertinence to obsolescence.

    Many people strive to remain pertinent or, better still, strive to stave off obsolescence.

    Worry not: in due time, what you are will be refitted.

    #74451
    Bill7
    Participant

    Not to be missed, in my opinion:

    Evolving With Big Tech: Facebook’s New Campaign Should Have Free Speech Advocates Nervous

    What’s been normalized by our Corporatist rulers in the last few years just leaves me aghast.

    “Better Living through Corporatist Censorship!”

    yay

    #74452

    From ? via Ivor Cummins via George Mc via Off-G, a bit of interesting research into vaccine passes.
    Quick read.

    #74453
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I smell lawsuits, myself. Judges will hear them.

    My understanding is that they call this The Judge because judges like them as personal protection.

    When parents of children, and children of elderly parents, realize they’ve been lethally lied to, judges will hear the case. All the hush money in the world won’t give a judge hir life (or that of hes child, spouse, or parent) back.

    #74454
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    The Individual Dance

    Then, many individuals.

    #74455
    John Day
    Participant

    CD8+ T-Cells, we all have them, but they are not all trained to take out cells infected with SARS-CoV-2.
    Anybody who has had any of the other 4 endemic strains of coronavirus in th last 5 years is likely to have cytotoxic (cell-killing) T-Cells that are effective at killing cells that are infected, and producing viruses within them
    That’s why 80% of folks seem to be pretty well immune to getting badly sick with COVID. If it spreads past the primary defenses in the nose and throat, a whole lot of people’s immune systems now what to do with coronaviruses, and do it, and it works pretty well (if they have enough vitamin-D for their immune system to perform normally).

    #74456
    John Day
    Participant

    Oops: “know what to do…”

    #74457
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    The NIH article on T-cell effectiveness against different variants uses a kind of verbal sleight-of-hand to suggest that vaccinees get a boost in T-cell immunity from the mRNA process; I’m not sure that is true. Here is the relevant paragraph:

    CD8+ T cells limit infection by recognizing parts of the virus protein presented on the surface of infected cells and killing those cells. In their study of recovered COVID-19 patients, the researchers determined that SARS-CoV-2-specific CD8+ T-cell responses remained largely intact and could recognize virtually all mutations in the variants studied. While larger studies are needed, the researchers note that their findings suggest that the T cell response in convalescent individuals, and most likely in vaccinees, are largely not affected by the mutations found in these three variants, and should offer protection against emerging variants. Optimal immunity to SARS-Cov-2 likely requires strong multivalent T-cell responses in addition to neutralizing antibodies and other responses to protect against current SARS-CoV-2 strains and emerging variants, the authors indicate. They stress the importance of monitoring the breadth, magnitude and durability of the anti-SARS-CoV-2 T-cell responses in recovered and vaccinated individuals as part of any assessment to determine if booster vaccinations are needed.

    Here’s the thing: all I’ve ever heard about with regard to the vaccines is that they produce antibodies in the blood – period. I believe that this a point that Dr. Bhakdi brought up, but I also know that the T-cell immunity usually arises (primarily arises?) from the T-cells recognizing the waste products of an actual infection. And since the vaccine spike protein is functionally inert as far as replication goes, it doesn’t make sense to me that the mRNA vaccines would provoke the durable, long-lasting, multi-variant T-cell response. We already know from news reports that the cross-reactivity between the vaccines and certain variants is poor.

    #74458
    John Day
    Participant

    I somewhat agree with Dr D. and also Madamski, not necessarily wrong, either way.
    TPTB and their robotic internet miners are bound to watch TAE. They watch all of us, and watch who we communicate with, and communicate what, and when and how, and they graph out nodal systems of communication. A few nodes are often responsible for the great majority of what is communicated in any human network of communication.
    TAE has certainly come under existential threat through defunding Facebook ads.
    If one wants to keep the internt for one’s own purposes, and deny the internet to rival groups, one needs to know which rival-group communication nodes (persons or sites) can be taken out, to do enough damage to the rival network, while doing minimal damaf=ge to te desired functions, like Amazon purchases, for instance.
    If one has longer to play with this, then the attacked nodes can be intermittently crippled, and communications between the upper 2 levels of those nodes can be attacked preferentially, impairing the upper level coordination.
    So in this case, the ad revenues of TAE can be directly taken out, and some of us, who have raised our heads out of the trenches, can have our own emails to others made to go through part of the time, especially if they are communicating a lot, also.
    With modern AI they can dial-in-the-octane, like you may recall doing with Sunoco 260 gas pumps, where you could choose just about any amount of good-old-bad-old tetraethyl lead that you wanted to pay for in your 1972 Super Bird.
    So, now I get around to agreeing some with Madamski that we are exchanging useful ideas, and working on them, and we are working out reality in a group problem solving exercise. Look at how sophisticated this group has become at calling out the bullshit we are being showered with, calling it out book-chapter-and-verse like we used to say in bible-school.
    This is a healthy and developing group.
    This is a part of any solution of coming up with ways to do things better.
    Eliminating all of the parasitic shite, by calling it out every time you see it, and identifying the payoffs the parasites get, and the lies they tell to manipulate us, to get the payoffs, are all important aspects of understanding how things are wrong.
    Yeah, Dr D. that’s not laying out a new right way, but we have to co-create new right ways going forward.
    We ARE the F..king mass-parallel-processor-of-univerdsal-reality-becoming.
    And we are doing better-enough to be calling naked-naked-naked out loud right now.
    Some of us are working on beta testing cutting-edge scientific game-changers like vegetable gardens, but not everybody can do that…
    Ride a bike; same thing…
    Uh, I forgot where I was agreeing and disagreeing, and with whom, in specific, but I always mean well.
    🙂

    #74459
    John Day
    Participant

    More on those cytotoxic T-Cells CD8+
    http://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/cells/cd8-t-cells#:~:text=CD8%2B%20(cytotoxic)%20T%20cells%2C,CD8%CE%B1%20and%20one%20CD8%CE%B2%20chain.

    #74460
    WES
    Participant

    I see they are still quierly auditing the Phoenix votes.
    The msm are all creating false hit pieces as expected.

    Up here in the police state of Ontario we are not even allowed to go boating!
    We walked over to open our island cottage.
    Cooked a turkey to celebrate our lack of freedom.

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