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    Paul Klee In the Houses of Saint Germain 1914   • Russia Issues Military Ultimatum To UK (RT) • The ‘Escalation Ladder’: French, British Threats
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 7 2024]

    #158531
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Solution to political suicide of the US;

    Any voter choosing to vote for a US federal office incumbent be stripped of citizenship and exiled along with their family. Preferably to some malignant ‘democracy’ as Australia, Britain or Canada. to enjoy the product of their voting choices.

    As always the choice is yours in a ‘democracy’. Vote on the rules you want, and enforce. (/sarcasm)

    #158532
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Western leaders are ‘infantile morons’ – Medvedev

    ‘Bout sums it up; don’t cha think??

    #158533
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Yo T-Bear;
    nice to see you here…

    #158534
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Western leaders are ‘infantile morons’ – Medvedev

    Stating the obvious – diplomatically. Insane is another descriptive available.

    Good to see you as well V. A., are you ready for ‘the guns of August’? Two ‘ambassadors’ given a real ‘red line’ and tactical nuclear exercises begun about the same hour; should be something to think about, no?

    #158535
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    T-Bear
    Two ‘ambassadors’ given a real ‘red line’ and tactical nuclear exercises begun about the same hour; should be something to think about, no?

    Indeed, yes.
    Tempting fate once too often methinks…
    The morons’ in the west do not seem to understand that Russians don’t bluff; and that is a fact…

    #158536
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Toon
    https://sinfest.xyz/btphp/comics/2024-05-07.jpg

    This is fascinating to me since I don’t see this anywhere. From anyone. Strictly an artifact of the media “Making s—t up” so I’ve been looking, yet somehow got all sorts to say it’s happening (without pointing to specific examples). Dore said this for example, and yes without an incident. That’s unusual on both counts. ARE we seeing it and I’m missing it? I’ve been busy. I see it from Shapiro, Congress, Fox, etc, but they’re not “People”. They’re all paid setups for decades. The RIght I know is indifferent since the issues involved are complex, but generally think they’re getting a raw deal.

    Speaking of Paid setups, remember those identically-dressed Khaki guys Not. One. on the Right side thought was real? They all thought they were gay AF? Yeah, it’s election season so “Then a miracle happened” and they’re back. But time has passed so the Whitmer case legally demonstrated – Shocking! — they were all always FBI and now we have the receipts. But they need to entrap/burn things/rig elections so they’re back! Commenter said, “Well if you can’t recognize them at this point isn’t it really just your own fault?”

    “Journalists Rush To Get Story Out Before It Can Be Ruined By The Facts” –Bbee

    Why rush? “Putin loses battlefield nuclear capability as troops become too degraded in Ukraine | George Barros” – Times Radio
    “”Recently There have not been any kind of operationally significant gains that threatened to fundamentally unhinge Ukraine’s ability to defend the rest of the province.”

    A new town every 12 hours ‘tis but a scratch. Two more this morning. This guy isn’t that bad, very straight, but the point of asking, having him on is that “The Russians are bluffing”, we can attack Russia in any way we want and they’ll never escalate and go nuclear. This specific guy may know the details of that, but the headlines and presentation don’t.

    So, Times Radio is MI6, which directs us, so their plan remains escalation. Got it.

    Other side, I think Napalitano, that the West has decided that, since they’re losing, that means Putin is bluffing QED. about re-starting training on tactical nukes in Europe! Yup, now here I say they have no human emotions, while they have the warped emotions of a gambler who already lost, then mortgaged the house without telling his wife, then lost, and now needs to rob a bank so he can get that One Big Win that will recover all his losses in one hand.

    Okay, work through this, because there are details: when we say “Nuke” the mind generally moves to worldwide SatanII MAD mega-ton ICBM continental exchange. No. It’s not like that now. Actually that’s more dangerous.

    MAD is what KEPT people from using them, that was the point, but they’ve disassembled all social and legal safeguards. “They” being the CIA Derp Staters like Dulles was, TRYING to get a nuclear exchange 2, 3, 4 times and only narrowly stopped. Once by Dead Presidents. Now, we have pocket nukes and battlefield nukes (and probably more) which is what they’re fighting over. The yield of an F16 nuke is small. The B61 is up to a 50 kiloton bomb, that’s two Nagasakis. However, can be Dialed down to 10, 1 or 0.3KT. That is, we use it just to take out the town like Avdiivka where the Russians are amassing 15,000 men and 1,000 tanks. Normal stuff, right? (Killing 15k Russian uniformed soldiers in one blow is ‘nothing”, “Conventional”…oh nevermind)

    What does that mean? If you’re a general, then you say “What’s the difference? This is just conventional ordinance, same as ATACMS only slightly larger. Let’s use it.” Discussed as “Lowering the nuclear threshold” which seems benign. Sure. And they’re right. Except that isn’t how it goes. If you’re in a duel with six shooters and someone shows up with a sniper, 50 cal, or a sopworth strafing Main Street what is the other guy going to do? That’s what narcissistic sociopaths can’t understand THAT there IS another guy. That’s how we got here so far that Russia would do what they’re told, wouldn’t adjust, respond, escalate.

    So we take off from Romania– or even Lviv, who cares – and drops a “Tiny” nuke to hold Russia at the Dniper, mentally conceding the whole Eastern half and wanting to go to surrender and negotiate, but planning a DMZ. You know, very plausible, for them very conciliatory. RUSSIA DOESN’T KNOW THAT. In fact, the OTHER point of the Derp State Dulles behavior was to make them NOT think that, by betraying every word you’ve said for 30 years. This causes miscalculations. So IF they see an F16, ANYWHERE in the sky, airbased in ANY country, they will ALSO counter-nuke EVERYTHING. Like this, best case:

    Holland sends an F16, it flies from Lviv carrying, hey I dunno, conventional bombs, who cares. Russia sees it and then ALSO pocket-nukes Lviv airfield and ALSO nukes the “Decision making centers” they’ve specifically named, any F16 airbases in Romania, and the NATO brains and radar, refueling in Poland to push the envelope back. THEY’RE NOT KIDDING. And we have nothing to stop them.

    Then Russia “nuked” NATO. NATO can’t allow this, so they mobilize with two girl scouts and a fiat. Sending larger missiles out, hitting Belgorod with very heavy missiles they DO have (we have no low-end “escalation dominance”) which come “From Ukraine” although they’re just USUK missiles, straight up with USUK operators.

    …Then Russia decides USUK has declared war on them and nukes London, NY, and DC with sub-nukes. The End.

    Every scenario ends with rapid, uncontrollable escalation. Russia sees this as existential. We see it as a cartoon, a game. We just Make S—t Up that “they must be bluffing” ‘cause we wanna. We wanna really bad, so that makes it true! Being here, there is ZERO fear. Even as they use the word “nuke” no lights go on in the brain. Nooo many words, too many lies, too many years, every one of which wasn’t true. Now we ignore everything. Zero concern is registered. ZERO. Not down here, and certainly not up in Langley. “Sleep-walking” into WWI is too mild.

    So there’s your problem: not that nukes are too large but because they’re too small and easy to use. We specifically cut off all communication with Russia to insure maximum opportunity to project our whacked psychology on their actions – well known – and to get maximum chance for mistakes – well known – and like Zelensky, to essentially outlaw all peace, anywhere, in any conditions, as Traitorous. RussiaRussiaRussia if you didn’t think this was planned in 1979 with Brzezinski or a day after the Charge of the Light Brigade.

    Let’s take another side: IF they do…well, anything...all our systems use GPS. Russia will rapidly decide to extend from our Nuke/ICBM type weapons, to taking out the satellites that direct them. Maybe first. Who knows how mad we would be about that as it’s never been done. But that would be a weird sort of EMP, as GPS runs everything. Every ship, every Amazon truck, like connected to info on Just-in-Time inventory, like everywhere. And all our military, note. Worse – and pretty likely actually – taking out the 5+ sats that run the area is likely to set off a Kessler Event with shrapnel flying 30,000mph through that whole strata of space for years. That is: you can’t put up another satellite to replace it, even a civilian one. Not for years. As I constantly say, we have no systems to adjust, counter, go around satellites, software is all dorked beyond belief even on a normal day, and although it’s probably fixable, it requires engineers and a mindset we lost in like 1992. That is: KISS. STOP having features, glossy front-ends. Make some robust, simple, interchangeable engineering on the back end. They would rather be eaten by a thousand badgers than make a product that works (but isn’t “cool”). It would get done, but we’re talking 10 years? With a very altered world?

    Those are just SOME of the things that happen when we “Make S—t Up” that Russia is bluffing. Nor can Russia stop it or help us. Only we can. WE have to come to our senses and stop being completely foaming insane. Stop the Mass Formation Psychosis run off the little blue square.

    “The last thing I want to consider is jail.”

    Become ungovernable. Last thing we wants is jail: that has to be the greatest joke of the year so far.

    “It now seems to be safe to say that they wanted an “insurrection.”

    The only thing that matters here is, “did this become consensus reality” which for me is a really infuriating question. Reality is Reality, it’s not a popularity contest. About 80% of the people feel differently. Reality is whatever it’s okay to say.

    “Moscow will retaliate against British targets in Ukraine or elsewhere if Kiev uses UK-provided missiles to strike Russian territory,”

    They already have. Many times. So they feel comfortable they’ll get away with anything, everything, whatever they think in their minds. But Russia may mean the COMMAND centers, who think they’re so safe. NATO HQ in Brussels, Berlin, Poland, etc. Understand what that means? Suppose Russia leaves a 1/4 Mile crater in downtown Brussels for you to think about.

    ““We have those reports that [French President Emmanuel] Macron is crazy enough to want to send French troops into battle there in Ukraine, and… the Russians actually have claimed to have killed seven of them this morning,” McGovern added.”

    France said he’d send troops. Russia already bombed them before they arrived. Okay: scenario, do we wait for 5k to join there and then get great “Pearl Harbor” PR when Russia bops them, or do we kill each truck of 100 as they arrive, creating no collective incident? And Macron will demand the U.S. to save them. “Do What You’re Told!!!” Nope. The U.S. couldn’t be less interested, emotionally. Even the leaders in our Vichy government are too busy having their hair on fire to bother.

    “They don’t brandish nuclear weapons. Now they are.”

    That’s because Russians don’t bluff – this is odd actually – and they never intended to use nukes before as we were formerly “Sane”. Or merely as insane as the average government is, 1940-1990.

    “Western Leaders Are ‘Infantile Morons’ – Medvedev (RT)

    Medvedev for President, 2024.

    “there will be no hiding on Capitol Hill, in the Elysee Palace or at 10 Downing Street”

    We have literally nothing to stop them. Nothing. Not officially anyway. Sure we have space lasers but it’s a long way to hit a moving cue ball from 100 miles out and target long enough to destruct. Whoops! We missed! Now there’s a 10-meter x 1km long track of laser destruction in Notting Hill.

    “• Israeli Tanks Enter Rafah (RT)

    Tanks enter and the media is focused on Chelsey and Chad protesting in Columbia. Going to get that all-important misdemeanor charge. Perfect.

    “The Beast Of Ideology Lifts The Lid On Transformation (Alastair Crooke)

    Crooke said his Euro sources say they think they got this. They are told to put down all free speech with strong violence and they will prevail. O Rlly?

    “What else can one say when Senator Tom Cotton posts: “These little Gazas are disgusting cesspools of antisemitic hate,”

    Huh? Just yesterday you told me Cotton was a Nazi. You promised! He was a White Supremacist fascist who would round up all the Jews if the got in power. What gives??? Daddy, Were you lying?

    …This is why you can’t allow little lies to turn into big lies. You cannot allow lies. You do that, next thing you know you’re putting the President on trial.

    ““..war financing schemes that yield “enormous profits” to both Kiev and Western arms manufacturers..”

    Money they can’t spend as our entire financial system will collapse. This is true of out White Hats: “Well I can’t go on that speaking circuit, I’m a high-level veteran and they’ll stop my pension.” YOUR PENSION IS ALREADY GONE, you fool. Consider it already cut off. Now go do the right thing.

    “• Russian Intelligence Claims US Wants To Replace Zelensky (RT)

    Yes. And I suspect it’s with Zu, which is why Ze threw a rod and has him under house arrest,(rumored) and why “They” were trying to get him to MI6/London as a “Diplomat”. He’s one of the top Nazis worldwide right now so Obviously a perfect fit for London. They should make him King and give a standing ovation. — No, this is definitely happening tho. Tey change the name of Al-Q to ISIS, then to ISIS-K and get backsies!

    “• China Causing De-industrialization in EU – von der Leyen (RT)

    Yellen said why: They were making too many awesome products too cheap! She ordered them to make S—t products at a high price like we do! That’ll fix ‘er.

    “The loss of access to cheap Russian natural gas has hit energy-intensive industries in Western Europe,”

    I mean I sort of understand, but to just let the largest attack on Europe, BY the United States/UK just slide like that is hard to take. AND one of the largest environmental events. AND the event that will probably cause Europe to start a 100 year decline. Really, can’t at least HINT at who dun it?

    That’s like saying the medical all-mortality in Gaza seems elevated. We’re looking into why. Um, I think you KNOW why.

    Aspnaz/why aren’t I in protests on TV: don’t underestimate the Reach of TAE, at least in the past (Raul can tell us what today’s numbers are) but yes, that’s a question I ask myself regularly. But then you also don’t know what my life is line and what I’m doing when I’m not writing here. Maybe I am protesting. Maybe I’m the organizer. Could be I’m in a wheelchair, or could be I’m Dexter, you don’t know. We all do what we can.

    #158537
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    At V. A. @ 158535 (some serious scrolling above),

    Yes, the children will continue with their games until … , and there will be a response. About the only one that stops them will be a few missiles into the glass palace headquarters of OTAN/NATO, dusting the bottles in its deepest bodega (wine cellar) and fluffing the pillows in its deepest recesses where generals practice their observances of necrolatry (and maybe a few more to bounce the shards a couple three times), informing the collective west that Russia is not at war with any country; Who would like to be first? Keeping in mind any country possessing or allowing nuclear weapons on their territory will be considered nuclear armed and will be dealt with accordingly, those abjuring those weapons will be recognised in any response. Only such reaction may be the only way for the leadership of the collective west to cop on to the seriousness of the situation (but is not a guarantee). Thankfully sane heads in Russia will prevail at the end of that day.

    #158538
    zerosum
    Participant

    Control
    Blinkers
    , sometimes known as blinders, are a piece of horse tack that prevent the horse seeing to the rear and, in some cases, to the side.
    ———–
    Example #1
    • Western Leaders Are ‘Infantile Morons’ – Medvedev (RT)

    “provocative statements and threats” by Western officials. Medvedev, who serves as deputy head of the Russian security council, referred to debates in the West about possible deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine, as well as “active encouragement [of Kiev] to use [Western] missile weapons against the entire Russian territory” as grounds for the drill. Russia “will have to respond” to the proposed deployment of Western soldiers, “and this response will not be” in Ukraine, the Russian official warned.
    (Ukraine does not have those missiles and does not have the soldiers that know how to use those missiles.)
    ————
    Example #2
    • Israeli Tanks Enter Rafah (RT)

    It also follows the decision by Hamas to accept an Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal,
    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office, however, said that the deal “is far from meeting Israel’s core demands.”
    ——————-
    Example #3
    • The Beast Of Ideology Lifts The Lid On Transformation (Alastair Crooke)

    Confronted by criticism of Israel, the ruling élites respond by angrily lashing out. Is there a boundary (still) between criticism and anti-semitism? In the West the two increasingly are being made to cohere. Today’s stifling of any criticism of Israel’s conduct – in blatant contradiction with any western claim to a values-based order – reflects desperation and a touch of panic.
    ———–
    Example #4

    • Trump Found In Contempt Again, Judge Threatens “Jail Sanction” Next (ZH)

    said Merchan. “Mr. Trump, I want you to understand the last thing I want to do is put you in jail.” “The magnitude of such a decision is not lost on me, but at the end of the day, I have a job to do.” Last week, Merchan fined Trump $9,000 and held the former president in criminal contempt of court for violating the gag order nine times.

    ————-
    Example #5
    • Prisoners of Themselves (Kunstler)

    Each successive seditious and treasonous action they attempt against their arch-nemesis, Mr. Trump, only compounds their criminal liability — the Steele Dossier, CIA agent Eric Ciaramella’s 2019 impeachment prank, the Covid-19 caper, the George Floyd-BLM hustle, the 2020 election hijinks, the J-6 op and the House J-6 Committee conjured up to spin it, the present battery of farcical court cases — and yet the Golden Golem of Greatness not only remains defiantly at large, but seems to amass ever more electoral mojo.

    The epic failure of these mighty efforts, and the humiliation entailed, has lately driven this vast bureaucratic cabal — collectively styled as “the blob” — to a stage of abject desperation that looks a lot like insanity. They fear for their lives, their fortunes, their chattels, and their families, and they seem ready to wreck the republic to save themselves. They have so far pretty much wrecked American justice with their lawfare tactics — a degenerate campaign to use the vested authority of prosecutors and judges to twist and cheat the law at the cost of the law’s legitimacy. Merrick Garland, Norm Eisen, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord, Lisa Monaco, Marc Elias, Christopher Wray, Letitia James, Fani Willis, Alvin Bragg have made law the enemy of the people.

    ——–

    #158539
    zerosum
    Participant

    #158541
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Hoax or not, The ICC Letter drama is, well, dramatic and entertaining as hell.

      While the ICC warrant was likely fake, the response is very real, and it is psycho.

      This letter to the court was written by Tom Cotton, and signed by Senators Mitch McConnell, Rick Scott, Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio, among others. The letter is dated April 26, but only became public yesterday when it was reported on by the Times of Israel.

      The lunatic tone of the threats is notable: “We will target you,” “[we will] sanction your employees and associates, and bar you and your families from the United States,” “you have been warned.”

      Where do Senators get the legal right to make these kinds of threats? Isn’t this sort of thing the exclusive purview of the executive branch?

      It’s also highly bizarre that they refer to the “genocidal” Xi Jinping. This is apparently a reference to the confusing claim that China is “genociding” Uyghur Moslems. Israel is actually, openly, publicly committing a genocide, and saying as much publicly, but they reference a secret underground genocide against terrorists in Jinjiang, for which no evidence exists. (If I was a Jew-lover, I would be claiming right now that “genocide” is not a valid concept, and is used to refer to wars people don’t like.)

    Again, it’d ((it would)) nice of Dr D, Major Scott Ritter, and Tulsi could chime in and opine.

    I’m fairly sure all institutions specifically targeted the Personality Disordered, you know the Antisocial, Histrionic, Narcissistic, Borderline and Schizoid, for Leadership and Management positions. When heretofore, these/those aforementioned Personality Impaired Conditions were considered to be thoroughly Disqualifying Conditions by all branches of the U.S. Military AND not compensable by medical boards, Veterans Administration or other disability programs.

    My God how far we as a people have come that an application of progressive values is manifested as compassion for Psychopaths(Antisocial), Borderlines, Narcissists and Histrionics.

    Psychopaths are ppl TOO!

    #158542
    WES
    Participant

    From what the MSM is saying, Israel still hasn’t killed all the Palestinians in Gaza yet.
    Only 35K, maybe 50K, so far?
    The US has supplied Israel with over 20,000 large bombs.
    The Israelis are killing less than 2 Palestinians per bomb.
    To finish the job properly the US needs to send another 1,000,000 large bombs.
    So far, the Israelis have proven to be incompetent at killing all of Gaza’s Palestinians.
    They need to get it done before the US November 2024 elections! /s

    Why isn’t NATO training more Ukrainian soldiers in Europe anymore?
    Well 20% of the first batch of Ukrainians went AWOL!
    Of the second batch of Ukrainians, 35% went AWOL!
    They aren’t telling us how many of the third batch of Ukrainians went AWOL.
    They just simply stopped training more batches of Ukrainians!
    Obviously another Ukrainian “Get Out of Jail Free” scheme bites the dust!

    In the Ukraine, being poor means being dead!

    Ukrainian “cannon fodder” recruiters now have quotas to fill.
    Previously exempted war industry workers are now fair game and are being nabbed.
    It is estimated Ukraine still has over 2 million men left for cannon fodder.
    Europe is making more noises about sending Ukrainian men back to Ukraine.

    Russians are using large smoke screens to blind NATO’s eyes in the sky.

    #158543
    WES
    Participant

    This whole pro -Palestinian protests suddenly erupting on command is in my opinion is just an excuse for the Uniparty to pass more legislation to restrict freedoms just like 9/11 disguised as anti -semite laws.
    This means any demonstration not approved by the government, is now illegal.

    #158547
    Dora
    Participant

    B’rer Fox…er Judge Mecham to B’rer Rabbit… er Trump:
    “The last thing I want to consider is the briar patch…er jail.”

    B’rer Rabbit’s thoughts: “Please oh please doan thrown me that briar patch…er jail. Anything but that. hehehe.”

    #158548
    Farmer McGregor
    Participant

    @aspnaz replied to me yesterday: “I see you are another one of the crazy Americans, you have fooled yourself into believing that Israel is doing something for America, even though all rational people can’t see what that is, or has ever been. Enjoy living in your false reality, it will come crashing down around your ears soon enough.”

    I am amazed and impressed at what you can “see” from what you read of mine — reminds me very much of Dr. D’s idea of “Putin Telepathy” where the media whores declare to know what Putin is thinking — so you must have powerful “Farmer McGregor Telepathy” that you magically know what I am thinking! Amazing!

    From the things you write it is evident that you are mentally off-balance, if not fully bat-shit crazy.
    I will continue to ignore your postings.

    #158549
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I was amazed to find that my Representative – warmongering and banker-bailouting as she is – nevertheless voted against HR 6090

    I sent her a thank you note.

    I emailed both of my senators letting them know I want them to vote against 6090 and to never, ever again send a cent to Israel, no more military assistance.

    I explained I can see now that my country goes into massive debt sending hundreds upon hundreds of billions of dollars to Israel, only to have this ungrateful backstabbing money hole use that same money to lobby to have our 1st amendment repealed.

    These fuckers have nothing but contempt for our core value: free speech. Fuck them.

    Not a cent more.

    They replied with pro-Israel form letters.

    #158550
    SeaBirds
    Participant

    @WES #158543

    You’ve maybe just solved a mystery for me. I could not understand why Soros would be funding the Palestine protests. Of course he would be behind any legislation banning any protest and dissent.

    #158551
    jb-hb
    Participant

    my new letter:

    Dear Sir,

    Please understand, this letter is coming from someone who would previously have been mildly pro-Israel. In previous times, I have raised no objection to the actions of Israel, material support to Israel. It had my tacit, reluctant agreement.

    I sent you a request that Israel receive no further funding or military aid from the United States and received, in reply, a letter was that was totally irrelevant to my concerns, spinning out a pro-Israel narrative of 10/7 and subsequent events. I DON’T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT. Everything you had to say was IRRELEVANT TO MY REQUEST.

    HR 6090 shows a total contempt for my own civil rights as an American citizen. The vote in the House of Representatives shows the disproportionately strong influence Israel has over my country’s internal politics.

    Events in Gaza aside, my own country is going into massive debt to send hundreds of billions of dollars to Israel. In return, it spends that money on lobbyists who then have the vast majority of my own House of Representatives vote against THE core American value – free speech.

    Because of HR 6090, I realized: I do NOT need to take this shit from a HORRIBLY UNGRATEFUL, BACKSTABBING money hole that never did me any good. (Israel)

    I never realized before the contempt in which Israel holds the concerns of the average American citizen, the rights of the average American citizen, the concept that they might have to, I don’t know, try to at least argue their point, try to convince us of anything? “There shall be no discussion!” apparently.

    I didn’t like what has been happening regards Palestine for the past decades, but I said nothing, taking Israel’s right to exist on the other side of the scale.

    And it’s FINE for Israel to exist. Goodwill to Israel and all Jews, nothing but love for you.

    That said, *I* am your constituent. NOT the state of Israel. *I*, your constituent am telling you. NOT A CENT MORE. No money, no items of any kind, no military or intelligence assistance. NOT A CENT MORE to Israel. I do NOT need this shit from an ungrateful backstabber.

    If you’re bound and determined to put us all even further hundreds of billions of dollars into debt, if you just cannot stop throwing money away, then at least spend those hundreds of billions on homeless US veterans. How about you start with that? You’re basically pulling money out of their begging cups and sending it to Israel at this point, aren’t you?

    Who do you work for?

    #158552
    WES
    Participant

    Lol!
    The AWOL figure for the third batch of Ukrainians being trained by NATO in Europe was 65%!
    I guess after you cross 50% losses to AWOL, you quit trying!

    Now international Ukrainian truck drivers are abandoning their trucks on the sides of highways once they leave the Ukraine!

    Some Ukrainians are finding ways to win!

    #158553
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Should this judge actually hold Donald Trump in contempt and put him in jail that is a depravation of liberty …

    It will also separate him from his security personnel, allowing someone to Epstein him. But would that happen? It seems very unlikely to me, Trump being such a devout ass kisser to the rich and powerful.

    #158554
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Dr D said

    Aspnaz/why aren’t I in protests on TV: don’t underestimate the Reach of TAE, at least in the past (Raul can tell us what today’s numbers are) but yes, that’s a question I ask myself regularly. But then you also don’t know what my life is line and what I’m doing when I’m not writing here. Maybe I am protesting. Maybe I’m the organizer. Could be I’m in a wheelchair, or could be I’m Dexter, you don’t know. We all do what we can.

    And the other part of my comment was why you feel the need to criticise those who do protest. Regardless of whether you have any legs, the need to denigrate the process of protest is one of your things. Protest is actually a small amount of power that we have the option to exercise, power to show the machine that we are not just producing stuff online – along with billions of others and the trillions of bots – but that we feel strongly enough to go out there and do something about it.

    Sure, I know that lots of protests have paid protesters, so for them it is a day job, but for the real protesters, you have to acknowledge that they at least are doing something about the world. Maybe you cannot tell the difference between paid and unpaid, but that makes no difference, we are talking about the essence of protest, not the financial corruption of protest. Even though I reject most protesters’ opinions and actions – the worst are destroying works of art to save the planet from climate change or gluing themselves to the read for the same reason – I do respect the fact that they got up and did something rather than just write about it.

    #158555
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Russia’s upcoming exercises to test its tactical nuclear weapons should be viewed in light of the “belligerent statements” made by some Western officials and NATO’s “destabilizing actions,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Monday.

    Why now? The western leaders have been morons from day one; it is always amazing to me that people who just follow orders always end up looking like morons, the reason being that the person giving the orders does not care how they make the puppet look to his peers. That is one of the great tells for a puppet, someone like Macron who looks like a moron because his owner does not care what his orders do to Marcon’s reputation, that is why he put Macron in that position in the first place, to take the heat.

    Back to the subject, why now? My suspicion is that Russia has killed a few NATO soldiers on the battlefield and that something is telling them that this is NATO, not just a bunch of mercenaries. They will not want to reveal this as a response would be demanded by the Russian people and would be expected by the NATO leaders. Not acknowledging the change enables Russia to play the issue in its own way, in a more calm and measured way. We knew this day would come and we knew that Russia would not just launch nukes on the west, so maybe this is the escallation, maybe this is Russia warning NATO to remove its troops or face the consequences.

    #158556
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Russian soldier asks Ukrainians some very fundamental questions……

    #158557
    poppie
    Participant

    aspnaz good analysis. Better than good

    #158558
    jb-hb
    Participant

    why you feel the need to criticise those who do protest

    Paid Soros protestors recruiting/indoctrinating for the next unrelated thing and the upcoming US election, “protesters” for whom genocide isn’t the point, it’s… something else? Openly saying the answer is Moar Socialism?

    Meatsuiting of a legitimate matter of national policy the moment it appeared on the radar? WE are That Thing now, we own it, therefore you kneel to Zod.

    “Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us”

    They meatsuit in every conceivable petty way. Star Wars. D&D. Your grandma’s knitting circle. Wherever 2 or 3 are gathered.

    “go out there and do something about it.”

    Oh, by imitating what Boomers did in the late 60’s? Over half a century ago?

    The Boomers are IN CHARGE now and unlike their parents and grandparents, THEY do not give a damn about younger generations’ protest, raising awareness, seeking your bliss, or any of that crap. I’m not going to get permanent nerve damage in my wrists from zip ties so I can let some boomer relive their glory days as a self insert into ME acting out some sort of pointless pantomime of “changing the world.” As if it were 55-60 years ago and the same paradigm applies as before I was born.

    Go on, slave away doing what I did while achieving nothing, mush! Why, I made $0.10/hr and bought my first house for $3,000 and paid my own way through college and… yawn. Check with GenZ on that while you’re at it, see what they have to say about it. The people driving these policies will be dead or senile in another couple years. Waiting is hard, but there really isn’t THAT long left.

    We’re going to protest and shock, alarm, change the minds of people who have been doing THIS to their children and grandchildren for decades? What happened on 1/6? What happened to Occupy Wallstreet?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufcvvMjUgYU

    #158559
    WES
    Participant

    One thing to keep in mind about puppets like Macron, Cameron, etc spouting hog wild crazy shit to try and escalate NATO/US direct involvement in Ukraine, is that the debt moratorium on Ukrainian gov bond interest is expiring.
    The holders of Ukrainian debt want the interest owed on about $170 billion of Ukrainian gov debt to start flowing.

    NATO/US financial institutions like Pimco, BlackRock, Vanguard, etc are the holders.

    If Ukraine becomes a member of NATO/US or joins EU then European taxpayers are on the hook for these Ukrainian gov bonds.
    I would imagine the same applies if NATO/US becomes directly involved in the Ukraine.

    These institutions don’t care if you die as long as they get repaid for the money they created out of thin air!
    The root of all evil is banker’s money, created out of thin air, but bearing interest.
    People need to die to preserve this sacred banker’s privilege.
    Nothing is more important!

    #158560
    WES
    Participant

    Protesting:

    To pretend that boomers are in charge today, is incorrect.
    Our ruling psychopaths are in charge and have always been in charge.
    No generation is ever in charge.

    It was our ruling psychopaths who created WW1 and then WW2.
    Our parents/Grandparents all had no choice but to fight.
    And so it goes.
    Our ruling psychopaths desire endless wars so they can stay in power.

    Nothing changes when any generation protests.
    Our ruling psychopaths simply crush any protests.
    They have no intentions of listening to us, ever!

    The best we little people can do, is try to live our lives without being swept up in the evil machinations of our ruling psychopaths.

    Our best method of protesting is to passively resist, ignore, not participate, laugh, ridicule, etc.
    Our ruling psychopaths have few ways to combat these passive tactics.
    Our ruling psychopaths desperately want us to violently protest, so they can use force against us, and make examples of us as criminals.
    Being violent enables our ruling psychopaths to easily identify, isolate, and control us, when we protest violently.
    Protesting silently makes us more invisible and harder for them to control.

    That is why I admire any Ukrainians who find a way of not becoming “cannon fodder” for their (our) ruthless ruling psychopaths.

    #158561
    maryballon
    Participant

    Ridicule is a powerful tool! Agustin Carstens, the general manager of BIS, for instance, reminds me of Baron Harkonnen of Dune! Oops…

    #158562
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ WES
    People power
    With access to TAE we can share knowledge and then we can decide which controls to affect.
    Peace

    #158563
    John Day
    Participant

    Dear. Ursula,
    The US and EU/NATO are sinking European industry. Mr. Xi might be too polite to tell you that.
    Please don’t embarrass your continent again.
    Your Friend,
    John

    #158564
    Oroboros
    Participant

    UKturdistan

    Ah, the Limey’s still think they matter

    Not

    “If the UK provides Ukraine with missiles used to strike inside Russia, it is possible that the Houthis will suddenly and unexpectedly deploy improved precision supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles, similar to the P-800 Oniks, which are capable of taking out British warships in the Red Sea.

    I’d pay good money to see the Houthis smoke a UKturdistan warship

    Kaboom!

    Smooth

    Monty Python’s Military Fairy

    Long Live the Queens!

    Be afraid!

    #158565
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Clownworld

    #158566
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Sicko Fucker

    .

    #158567
    John Day
    Participant

    Trump Classified Document Trial Postponed Indefinitely Days After ‘Mishandled Evidence’ Bombshell
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-classified-document-trial-postponed-indefinitely-days-after-mishandled-evidence

    #158568
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Snowflake Alert

    .

    #158569
    Oroboros
    Participant

    May the Force be With You!

    Pedo Joe does a SkyWalker!

    Apparently Hamill will do anything for a pair of aviator glasses from Joe-bi-Wan Kenobi

    #158570
    Oroboros
    Participant

    .

    #158571
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Spotted Later that day…..

    .

    #158572
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Doubling back on the Star War thing…

    .

    #158573
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Kim Jong Il

    Has a sensitive side

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