Debt Rattle November 12 2024
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November 12, 2024 at 9:40 am #174154Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Sandro Botticelli Portrait of a Young Woman 1480 – 1485 • Mysteries Revealed (Jim Kunstler) • Rep. Byron Donalds Says ‘Enemies-List’ Rumor Is A
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 12 2024]November 12, 2024 at 10:59 am #174157OroborosParticipantLook at the Priorities
It’s like a glimpse into their Soul…..
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November 12, 2024 at 11:03 am #174161OroborosParticipant………………………………….Get A Grip Girls
November 12, 2024 at 11:28 am #174162OroborosParticipantNovember 12, 2024 at 11:31 am #174163OroborosParticipantDuh’merica
The Brainwashing Runs Very Very Deep Indeed
November 12, 2024 at 11:33 am #174164OroborosParticipantThat’s a Mighty Long Wait You Got There Madame
November 12, 2024 at 11:35 am #174165OroborosParticipantFan Boy
November 12, 2024 at 11:39 am #174166OroborosParticipantNovember 12, 2024 at 11:40 am #174167OroborosParticipantRecursive Duh’merica Looping Itself to Death
November 12, 2024 at 11:40 am #174168tbocParticipantrefreshing to hear someone using factual analysis and giving an honest assessment of the overall economy. Mr. Dowd is an optimist and still has faith in our future, encouraging.
Mr. Armstrong should hear the point Mr. Dowd makes, the stock market is not representative of the health of the economy as it once was.
My feeling is Mr. Armstrong knows this but remains a class warrior. Still a proponent of golden showers.November 12, 2024 at 11:42 am #174169OroborosParticipantSave the Planet from Hypocrisy
November 12, 2024 at 11:46 am #174170OroborosParticipantI’m so old I remember a quarter would buy a cup of good coffee and two donuts
November 12, 2024 at 11:54 am #174171Dr. DParticipantSo officially they found 500,000 fake vote(r)s in Arizona? Yeah, when you’re looking for 10M fake votes to count up Biden, looks like we Got it in One. You can’t just times 50, but you make up in Wyoming how much larger and better the rigging would be in NY, IL, and CA.
Okay, smart guy, do you have any PROOF? Yeah, every state she won were all No-ID states. (Minus one, VT I think)
Life goals: “The Department of Exmigration will be officially formed, and every celebrity who posted that they will be leaving the country will be leaving the country. By Wednesday. The motto of the Department will be “Buh-bye”.
So as I said yesterday, they’re getting their feet under them, — Did they actually believe their own polling? Their own rigging? — and are pivoting toward “It’s a fake election”. Make election denial Great Again. 2016 = Yes. 2020 = No. 2024 = Yes. Hmmm…what do these years have in common?
As Satan is not creative and only an imitator, they are using the same language: Yes, there are fake servers in
GermanyItalyChina thatDeep StateElon Musk was rigging, and therewas a gunfightElon BLEW UP HIS OWN SATELLITES in Space. With Jewish Space lasers, I’m sure.Wow, that’s quite an allegation, how can we all be sure this is real? A: Well, “there’s this thing called IPv4 and IPv6, and the data is in the ‘Internet’…” Uhhhh…I have no POSSIBLE way to describe how RETARDED both that allegation and that explanation is. That’s literally the equivalent of saying “How do you know this ballot is fake”. “Huh, WELL, there’s this thing called PAPER…” Yeah, paper, what ALL ballots are written on. Conclusive. You’re a genius.
Now not to say we didn’t do the same thing: there were allegations of the machines being tied to the internet (turns out to be true) and of shootouts in 2020. …Okay, we reported that it was reported. Expected and looked for confirmation. Nothing. Nothing? Yes, so? So not confirmed, it gets put down, goes nowhere. Show me. Put up or shut up. They didn’t, that’s that. Want to show me someday, I’ll pick it up. Italy has IN PARLIAMENT, a little bit.
So anyway, they SUDDENLY CARE ABOUT MACHINES ATTACHED TO THE INTERNET. Yay! You win, I think. Sold, shut up and take my money. YES, let’s NOT allow them to connected to the internet. AND, as the Verizon leak, let’s not have a secret chip on the board that allows near-by internet contact (NFC). She also wants a recount, an investigation! Yes! You win. Let’s set up a proper process to do that. For some inexplicable reason, all those processes were outlawed in Congress recently. Anything else?
Yes: they passed a law (probably unconstitutional) that the VP CAN ONLY rubber-stamp the vote. Um, how? Nevermind, but that means Kamala will and MUST rubber stamp that Trump won, she has no (legal) alternative. Thanks to herself. So ha ha ha, now I understand why that fact is funny.
Anyway, so as they are now claiming Jewish space lasers run by Elon rigged the election, they’re going to puff up their own J6, insurrection, “refusing to leave” and so on. Good. So I’m on the right track here. But we NEED them to try an insurrection. We WANT them to. Help them.
We see the Kamala campaign, not only blew a BILLION dollars and lost in a landslide, but actually lost ANOTHER $200 Million into debt. So…Presidential material, amirite? I mean, if you can lose $1.2B and come up with literally nothing, brother, government is the only job you’re suited for. Ha ha ha, but why do I bring it up? Same as the Presidency: they didn’t EARN it. They didn’t have the skills, the “Mandate of Heaven”. They want the PRIZE, but not the WORK. So, like any lottery winner, the minute they get it, they blow it, getting more broke and ruined than before. So with her campaign: it wasn’t WHAT she had: Woke Brown people. It was that like DEI hires, THEY WERE NOT COMPETENT. At all. They weren’t hired on merit, so it doesn’t matter if you give them a million or a billion: they will blow it. And they did. Again, do they DESERVE this rulership, or are they cheating and taking a shortcut?
So the point isn’t the winning or losing, it’s the shortcut. It’s the True Mandate. It’s rising to the occasion.
Okay, also fun. Ha ha ha. No: what that means is, THEY CAN’T WIN. Why? Because whatever game play, TALENTED people will win with it, INCOMPETENT people will lose with it. Even if, like Alex Soros, they start with a hundred billion dollars from their daddy. So we can fight them all day, all week, all year, forever and win now.Like Russia, by the way. At a 10:1 they can fight Ukraine for 1,000 years and still win. …I mean, except that Ukraine wouldn’t last that long.
But there’s no point in fighting and we’re all gonna die. Against an enemy that blew $1.2B on OnlyFans. Can’t. Figure. It out.
Comparison: Trump also had challenges. He also had failures. So…Did he LEARN? Did he CHANGE? Did he rise to the occasion? Look at his new rainbow coalition, his 2024 talent pool: yes. Yes he DID learn from the abuse, rise to the occasion, and become WORTHY of the position. …Or at least more than before. What do you want? A person/party that learns something? Or one that not only doesn’t learn anything, but actively REFUSES to learn anything, all their faults are YOUR fault. Well, take the better, not the worse. We head in the right direction, not the wrong one. Then plod on in the RIGHT direction day after day, not as Usain Bolt, but like a hobo. Hop enough trains, you end up in Bangor, Maine after all.
“Elon Musk “has been seen at Mar-a-Lago nearly every single day since Donald Trump won, dining with him on the patio at times” and “weighing in on staffing decisions, making clear his preference for certain roles,”
Ugh!
AOC: Yes, and Republicans refuse to do the obvious, like this. Probably on purpose, I believe. You can’t have a discussion where everything they say is a lie, and you say “I accept this discussion’s premises”.
Out in the world, they asked, eg, Ramaswamy, “It’s impossible to deport 20M illegals, it would cost a billion, gazillion dollars.” Again, setting the assumptions and premises, as well as attacking and redefining the language. So that’s their play now. “They stole $20M from the bank, but that money’s everywhere now! You can’t get it back!” You wanna bet? Police and courts do this every day. But for Ramaswamy, he just said two categories: One, people committing new crimes. Two, shut off all welfare transfers. 15 Million will deport THEMSELVES overnight. Then we play golf and have a light lunch.
“Joe Biden is a primary target of much of the rage and contempt of Democrats for losing the election.”
It’s hard to fathom. Is there a POINT to this? Like, yes, how long can we discuss it without a solution?
Here’s a Venezuelan trying to cover this Liberal honestly asking, “Am I the crazy person?” “What did you see in him?” Okay, yeah, and those are the people who need to be reached. BUT THEY’RE UNREACHABLE. Like maybe for the first time this young lady IS actually asking the question, for real, first time ever. And wants to hear, for the first time ever. Maybe. But no: IF she wanted to know, she’d just go look it up. She doesn’t need to ask an empty camera on TikTok. You don’t go into a crowded TGIFriday’s, open the door and shout: “Someone explain nuclear physics to me, right now!” You’re f—g mental. You’d just go LOOK. Like it was a huge hurdle for her to even click on Fox news. Great! Good. She finally heard at least what LEFT wing media liars think, which is a step back from the FAR-LEFT-OF-MAO media thinks. Even that caused her to ask a question. Amazing. So?
I suppose I’d have to answer (he doesn’t leave a link) but I’m not very hopeful about it. We’ve been telling them all 2024, all 2020, all 2016, all 2008, all 2001, all 1994 and “That Giant Sucking sound”, all 1974, and so on. Nothing.
Conclusion: she’s thinks she’s serious, she’s getting there, but she isn’t. Already they are circling the wagons for the Manson Cult and ordering Minions to not talk to their families, disown them all, don’t see them at Holidays, don’t talk a debriefing on why they openly and catastrophically lost the election. Okay, why? That won’t last, that’s a rear-guard action. Because they need them still uninformed and activated, in a cult, when they pull the Kamala coup and refuse to leave. …Something like that. So they only NEED them until January. Remember, they just going to kill them all anyway, it hardly matters.
Kunstler: Yeah, so why didn’t they do all that “enforcing-of-law” last time??? A: Well, they couldn’t get the mandate. The PEOPLE’S mandate. From us. OUR support. WE are the country, not them. Now the people have seen it – thanks to Trump drawing out their fire all decade – and WE have had enough and want them to stop this. Same arrests, same court cases, different perception.
““There’s never been a set of threats like this made by a candidate for president of the United States,”
Again: no facts? Show me. Oh, you DIDN’T show me, DIDN’T name specific facts, that means you don’t have any. That’s Jesus above: “Show me the Non-video that does NOT exist. Put it in my hands for me, and I’ll believe you.”
Again: Time exists. “IF Trump gets in, he’ll arrest everybody!!!” Trump was ALREADY in, and didn’t arrest ANYbody. Not even Hillary, which he specifically promised, on (Inter)national TV Nope. Like the mass man-poisoners, let’s-kill-everybody yesterday, none of it is real to them. All made up, a display, a show, like their carefully getting on make up, setting up the tripod, the room, the microphone, the camera, THEN having a nervous breakdown. It’s not real. But they are insane so they can’t tell the difference.
“Kicking out [21million] illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes” would help bring down housing costs, Vance said on Oct. 1. Some economists have disagreed with Vance’s assertions,”
Perhaps this is being a little TOO fair? Some people also think Bigfoot is on the moon, in the control booth over the flat earth, but we don’t interview them either. Because their ideas are insane. We could drop population by 21 Million. Housing prices won’t move. Yes, you’re insane.
““I’ll try not to think about my boys because,” Dickerson started to respond before losing his composure.
It was one thing for these late-night hosts like Jimmy Kimmel to [Cry].”All feminine behavior. Are they ACTING? Well, like play-acting, then yes, but I mean taking any action, DOing anything? No. AND it doesn’t even occur to them. By ACTING they are trying to manipulate YOU to act and do all the work FOR them. So they don’t have to. My tears mean “you gimme.” Right now or else.
“meanest, dumbest, most bigoted high-school classmates are celebrating early results because f**k them to the moon “
Yes, I can totally see how you’re not mean or bigoted at all in that statement.
“In 2020, Scientific American broke a 175-year tradition of non-partisanship to endorse Joe Biden”
Again, they find something somebody ELSE has created, kill it, and wear it as a skin suit. They are incapable of any other way. If they could be productive and do work, they’d be Republicans and not be our enemies. Anyone having morals and doing work, we leave them alone. Obviously.
“People rarely admit it, but they like it. It is the ultimate high produced by the lowest form of political discourse.”
Well I don’t like it. I don’t get high. I wonder who these people are. This is confused because like Church ladies they claim they DON’T like it and good girls don’t. When they really, really, really, and publicly do.
Again though, like Jesus, above: what’s the story arc here? Where does it END? How do we get them through to a conclusion of their madness? Similar to Dorothy Parker, “If you laid all the economists end to end, you wouldn’t reach a conclusion.”
Here’s one thing I haven’t fully resolved, and don’t know where to place yet: All the 4B women, watching their videos, yes they only live, think, and exist in reference to MEN. Odd, and why? but sure. They refuse any action, manipulating OTHERS into action so they don’t have to. Always. That is, men, I guess? I mean if net-net women aren’t going to act, but manipulate instead, process of elimination that leaves only Men.
Here’s the odd part though: THEY ARE DEEPLY, UNCONSCIOUSLY, OVERWHELMINGLY, MELT-DOWN TERRIFIED OF MEN. Like, that’s the root, at least of these deranged ones, maybe more. Like, they seem to think men…are going to chase them down like a bear and eat their guts with their fangs or something? Where is this coming from? It’s so primal, it precedes words. They act as if they’re in a world where all other humans (men) are deadly cobras, hungry panthers, and every minute it will be a miracle if they’re not devoured on the spot.
There’s no statistical crime data that supports that. Clearly women are much LESS abused by men than ever, and in fact in some categories like domestic abuse, they are more violent and the abuser than they abused. You can give me all the snap answers, but I’ll have to think about this. It’s not about answers because it precedes words.
…Sure would explain a lot of their behavior though. That’s why every attack — including planning to kill all men they know yesterday — makes sense to them. They are deranged and incredibly dangerous. To all life on earth.
Senate Leader: Every trick. Would be disappointed otherwise. We need them to pop up, because we all need to see that they lose.
“The first great challenge to the future Trump administration will be controlling inflation. It is coming back already and we might face a second wave that emerges in the summer.”That’s odd. Why? Because we’re now not dealing $1 Trillon every 100 days, but every 50 days? As in: mathematical compounding interest (or collapse)? Soooo…you’re not gong to “control” it. It either is, or it isn’t. My bet that it IS. We’re swapping out the US$ as we always were. The fight is about WITH WHAT? Who runs the new world after. Who Builds Back Better? Us? Or them?
If the US$ dies in a currency run, there is no “controlling inflation”. Nor should there be: we NEED it to collapse because it’s the root of all the problems.
BTW, the US$ just collapsed 30% against Bitcoin, and 20% against gold.
“Martin Armstrong says just eliminate income tax. You’ll have a boom.”Yes, there are solutions, and the solutions are all easy: Don’t be an Idiot. That’s it. Just stop doing idiotic things, we’ll be fixed overnight. However, no one will since we’re run by thieving idiots and need to remove them all. What is it Ilargi said, we don’t have a money problem, we have a political will problem? The money is downstream from politics and morality. Fix that, it’ll be over in a fortnight. Fix that and even the oil problem will solve. If we had one.
What kind of corruption? “• The Fog of War Talk – Favour, Threat (Helmer)
The media is reporting Trump talked to Putin which never happened. Jesus, can’t you get even THAT right? Lied already. Like, did the SUN come up in the morning? We’re not talking details: DID or did it not happen? At all? Did Nixon get on an airplane to China or didn’t he? Clearly we can know these things, they’re not state secrets.
“Moscow views long-range strikes with US-supplied weapons as a ‘red line’ which would likely make ceasefire negotiations impossible. The Trump team knows this..”
Why Biden/Kamala have to do it. …And then Russia wins the other half of Ukraine and it’s solved.
“• UK and France To Push Biden To Escalate Ukraine Conflict – Telegraph (RT)
Uh-huh. Cool story bro. Get me a sandwich. The Pentagon ALREADY told everyone how it’s gonna be, and they want to mouth off some more? Go ahead, I guess.
“a society … dominated by an élite, unrestrained by traditional values … [and practicing] continuous surveillance over every citizen … [together with] manipulation of the behaviour and intellectual functioning of all people … [would become the new norm].” Elsewhere, Brzezinski argued that “the nation-state … has ceased to be the principal creative force: International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning…
And he was decisively, and disastrously, wrong in the policy prescriptions that he adduced from the implosion of the Soviet Union in 1991 – that no country or group of countries would ever dare to stand up to U.S. power.”That’s because, like Scooby-Doo, “He would have gotten away with it too!”, except that they are retarded, moronic, drooling, glue-sniffing degenerate inbreds who are dumber than a box of rocks and couldn’t run a taco stand at a Swift concert, if they were the only vendor for 1,000 miles. If not for being the worst, dumbest, most incompetent players ever, outplayed at checkers while still cheating, by Cleetus with fetal alcohol syndrome, they would totally have gotten away with it.
But thankfully they are, so we have nothing to worry about. They control nothing, and if you lifted a finger to play against them for anything, you’d know that instantly. Bunch of doctors who have been discredited, shut down a WHO treaty nobody ever heard of for example, is how little power they have. The only power they have is IN YOUR MIND. So thanks, Mossad, keep tellin’ me all about it while I drink your milkshake, you fail nonstop for 20 years, and are incapable of advancing a single mile right next to your home base. …But we’re all gonna die.
“• Germany: Move To Ban AfD May Come Before New Elections (RMX)
Nazi is as a Nazi does. This is how you know they’re totally winning in the marketplace of ideas.
“that German system of national frustration” aka, “Their Government”? I like that. Each nation has their own official system of National Frustration.
November 12, 2024 at 12:08 pm #174172OroborosParticipantOn this day 55 years ago….
The day after Veterans Day
Seymour Hersh breaks My Lai Massacre story – 1969
In a cable filed through Dispatch News Service and picked up by more than 30 newspapers, investigative journalist Seymour Hersh reveals the extent of the U.S. Army’s charges against 1st Lt. William L. Calley at My Lai. Hersh wrote: “The Army says he [Calley] deliberately murdered at least 109 Vietnamese civilians during a search-and-destroy mission in March 1968, in a Viet Cong stronghold known as ‘Pinkville.’”
“The incident, which became known as the My Lai Massacre, took place in March 1968. Between 200 and 500 South Vietnamese civilians were murdered by U.S. soldiers from Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry, 11th Infantry Brigade of the Americal Division.
During a sweep of the cluster of hamlets known as My Lai 4, the U.S. soldiers–particularly those from Calley’s first platoon–indiscriminately shot people as they ran from their huts, and then systematically rounded up the survivors, allegedly leading them to a ditch where Calley gave the order to “finish them off.”
Little known detail, Major Collin Power was instrumental in helping to try and cover up the My Lai Massacre but Hersh’s report made that impossible. But Power was promoted because he was noted as a “team player” who would lie about anything.November 12, 2024 at 12:11 pm #174173OroborosParticipantAs of 2018, Calley was living in Gainesville, Florida
He died there on April 28, 2024, at the age of 80.
His death was not reported until July 29, when it was discovered in public records.
On his death certificate, a question asking if he had ever served “in [the] U.S. armed forces” was marked “no”
November 12, 2024 at 12:53 pm #174175John DayParticipantLast night zerosum wrote:
“RKF Jr. has set up a website
Check it out.
Great new way to participate in democracy
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Only US residents, otherwise it will be considered political interference.”I nominated Meryl Nass MD for HHS. Bobby already knows and works with her with CHD.
November 12, 2024 at 12:58 pm #174176John DayParticipant@Oroboros: I was in 7th grade on a USMC base when Hersh broke the My Lai massacre story. There were a lot of strong feelings all around, largely that Calley was being scapegoated, but it seemed to me that he had committed and ordered a horrible slaughter of women and children. Hersh posted something this year about how he chased that story, which was interesting, and is here somewhere and in my blog somewhere.
November 12, 2024 at 1:02 pm #174177John DayParticipantThanks Oroboros: “How do you spend over a billion dollars and not win?”
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By Rochelle BarrandNovember 12, 2024 at 2:46 pm #174180zerosumParticipant“There really is no choice.
Cutting $2 trillion out of the budget is a good start, but it is not enough.
These have to be real cuts, not fake cuts in the rate of growth.”
The worst case for Trump’s second term is a major financial crisis.
If the economy blows up in the next four years,
Trump will be blamed, and the left will benefit:
• Trump Inherits Turd of an Economy – Ed Dowd (USAW)• The Economic Challenges Facing the Trump Administration (Jeffrey Tucker)
The first great challenge to the future Trump administration will be controlling inflation.
we’ve had almost no honest talk about the reasons for this devastation.
(cut gov. spending )
————Rage and Contempt for Trump are still ruling/controlling the emotions/thinking of the losing minority.
It is the collective fury and delirium of the post-election protests that was so disconcerting. Pundits lashed out at the majority of voters, insisting that the election established that half of the nation is composed of racists, misogynists or domination addicts who long to submit to tyranny.
Others blamed free speech and the fact that social media allows “disinformation” to be read by ignorant voters.
In other words, the problem could not possibly be themselves.
It was, rather, the public, which refused to listen.
That does not bode well for the Democratic Party.
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“People in the media are aware of how illegitimately they’ve done their jobs that they think they’re on the verge of being locked up” —Scott Adams• Mysteries Revealed (Jim Kunstler)
Trump intends to deconstruct those parts of the government at war with the people: clean out “rogue bureaucrats,” firehose the malignant agencies, release and expose their document trails on spying, censorship, lawfare, and abuse-of-power.
mysteries/schemes to get unraveled,
such as – exactly how many federal agents did work the crowd around the Capitol on J-6, 2021
the pipe-bomb caper at the DNC HQ a few blocks away that same day.
sedition, treason, real conspiracies, not theories.
the Jeffrey Epstein list and the P. Diddy list.
revealing the mysteries and the lies and the secrets.
There is chatter about “a coup” being considered among as-yet-unnamed parties in the Pentagon to prevent Mr. Trump from rising back into power.
to find procedural tricks to prevent certification of the election on 20 January 2025.
“enemies within”, a group of “enemies” within the US government that he has defined as “radical-left lunatics” that allegedly have been acting against America’s best interests.
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deporting millions would be done one step at a time, not all at once.
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Check it out. Maybe, your voice will be heard.
Great new way to participate in democracy.
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Only US residents, otherwise it will be considered political interference.
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We are now officially moving into a dictatorship due to this democratic election. – Alexandria Ocasio-CortezDemocrats have already doubled down on attacks on free speech, including blaming their loss on the absence of sufficient censorship. On MSNBC, host Mika Brzezinski blamed the loss in part on “massive disinformation.”
PEACE
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Our calculations, conservatively speaking, are 8 million to 15 million dead globally, 40 million to 60 million disabled and 500 million to 900 million injured where their immune system is so compromised that they are getting sick all the time.
Most of the numbers are injured, and then the next level down are disabled and then dead. People can funnel down from one category to the next.
We have a problem here because we have 10% to 13% excess mortality currently running. – Ed DowdNovember 12, 2024 at 3:04 pm #174181tbocParticipantMarco Rubio
i hear Nat King Cole singing against Nelson Riddle’s Orchestra – “The Party’s Over”November 12, 2024 at 3:26 pm #174182The BlackParticipantMy guess is that – at some point this summer, likely after Butler, Trump negotiated an agreement with the deep state. “The Art of the Deal” and all that.
There’s been almost no talk about the classified documents issues since then; neither Biden’s issues nor Trump’s.
Trump’s reaction at Butler was organic. Everything after was not. Security State went quiet about the shooting. But there was a lot of hoohah just after the shooting, at least until what’s her name at SS resigned.
Was Harris’ campaign inept? You couldn’t run a goofier campaign if you tried. Did they hire a high school campaign manager? Only the Karens and Portland People couldn’t see that. Not even Newsom would sully himself trying to help save it. It was intentionally inept, but it also took almost no effort, just money. And – bonus – the weakest from the Donkey Party were sacrificed. Pelosi’s long face post-election was not because Harris lost, it was because she knows she’s in a weak position, it’s time to leave, and Trump is living rent-free in her head. Although she might stick around to save the family business. MSM is done but now can claim they see the light and try to migrate to or infiltrate social media.
I think Trump closed a deal with Deep State (DS) after Butler that looked like this:
Trump to DS: “If you kill me, one or all of my offspring will come forward with the information in the Mar-A-Lago files. Let’s talk”. Others in my campaign know as well, but they’ll stay quiet for me.”
Deep State: “OK we smoke peace pipe.”
Trump: “I’m going to win this election. We all know it. I want to MAGA.”
DS: “Hmmm, MAGA”.
Trump: “You guys have made a real mess with Barry and Big Mike. I have all the goods. You know it.”
DS: “You MAGA then. But we keep Foreign Policy.”
Trump: “I don’t want foreign policy anyway. Deal”.
All the foreign war BS will continue: lots of domestic jobs for MAGA Country. Israel will get its weapons, so will Ukraine but maybe salted to Trump’s taste. In 4 years he’ll slide the files back where he found them. Maybe the JFK stuff will come out to make it appear that’s what RFK got out of it. Trump MAGAs, Tulsi wins next election with Vivek, then Vivek becomes Pres.
20 years or so of Elephant party to solidify MAGA. But no substantial change to Foreign Policy.
November 12, 2024 at 3:27 pm #174183jb-hbParticipantLots of youtubers and vloggers I watched called notavaxxing and masking “woke” as did thousands of commenters who were relatively non-ideological and non-political.
It was clear that “anti-vaxxers” were automatically to be assumed to have a BASKETED set of deplorable attributes. Picture an “anti-vaxxer” in your mind now and what do you see? White, male, republican, flat-earther, bigot, misogynist, homophobe, nazi, kkk.
It was QUITE clear that it was HOPED that “anti-vaxxers,” being the enemy, could be eliminated from the public square and discourse, from society, their families, the economy. AND THAT THE NOTAVAX WOULD BE THE TOOL WITH WHICH TO DO IT.
And if the “anti-vaxxer” said “But it will poison me. I could die or become disabled, unable to do my job”
Well, that would just be heaven’s righteous, just punishment of you for being the basketed deplorable that you are. Duh.
Mask wearing was another way to identify friendlies and deplorables, separate them, and persecute the RIGHT people. Bonus – WE stay hidden YOU get revealed.
There was a great hunger for such a distinguisher. Years and years of adrenal gland and brain stem overstimulation, INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS — KKK NAZI RETHUGLICAN RACIST MISOGYNIST SEXIST HOMOPHOBE FILTHY SCUM DEPLORABLES …HIDING AMONGST US. WORKING WITH US. GOING TO CHURCH WITH US. SLEEPING WITH US. WALKING THE STREETS, ENTERING SHOPS, LIVING, SLEEPING, BREATHING AS IF THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO.
Why should we continue to think of the notavax as a disagreement about science just because they kept hitting us over the head with the WORD science, when we knew they did not mean science by their use of this word?
And they knew this too, know it now.
The notavax episode of our civilization was NOT a scientific one, NOT a medical one. Nor was it a matter of greed and corporate profits.
“Someone benefited = they’re the big meanie responsible for it all” – is neo-marxist thinking. People HAPPENED TO benefit – but nobody came to all those Karens and said “Hey, if we do xyz, CEO’s will benefit” and the Karens were filled with screaming enthusiasm and went flying into the night to be the notavax’s unpaid HR ladies. Uh, no.
Nobody went wild with delight to force poison down everyone’s throat because CEO’s stood to benefit. And if all the normal common people hadn’t acquired a religious fervor over the notavax, despite all the CEO’s in existence and all their money paying for psyops, it would not have happened.
It was purely a witch hunting moral panic, primed by wall-to-wall psyops with the vax as the reassuring, purifying solution that would finally separate the sheep from the goats.
November 12, 2024 at 3:31 pm #174184jb-hbParticipantIf someone beats you over the head with a lead pipe, are you having a misunderstanding, a failure to have a meeting of the minds, over plumbing?
If someone beats you with a 2×4, are you having fundamental differences regarding the homebuilding industry?
November 12, 2024 at 3:45 pm #174185poppieParticipantWhy its still a uniparty. But with more analysis and less doom doom doom.
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-fact-that-the-candidate-who-got-the-most-votes-won-the-election-doesnt-mean-it-was-a-real-election/November 12, 2024 at 4:33 pm #174186tbocParticipanthegemony – The predominance of one state or social group over others.
social group – defined as two or more people who interact with one another, share similar characteristics, and collectively have a sense of unity
Class – A set, collection, group, or configuration containing members regarded as having certain attributes or traits in common; a kind or category.
Club – an association of persons participating in a plan by which they agree to make regular payments or purchases in order to secure some advantagejust checked, Carlin’s sketch about the Club is still up on Youtube
THE HEGEMONY CLUB – You ain’t in it.The Black, this iteration of THE CLUB was formed in 1947. The outline you present is accurate, the timeline my friend, the time line. Ike was not issuing a warning he was stating a fact.
No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up.. – Lily Tomlin
THE HEGEMONY CLUB – you ain’t in it
Hanlon’s Razor only cuts so deep,
Cracker’s Razor:
Never underestimate the ruthless barbarity of malicious stupidity.November 12, 2024 at 4:35 pm #174187OroborosParticipantNovember 12, 2024 at 4:37 pm #174188tbocParticipantHEGEMONY CLUB motto – FULL SPECTRUM DOMINANCE
never forget, one type of prison is where you are standing on the outside looking in.November 12, 2024 at 4:38 pm #174189OroborosParticipant
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November 12, 2024 at 4:41 pm #174190zerosumParticipantIs Rubio a better liar than Blinken?
November 12, 2024 at 4:42 pm #174191OroborosParticipantThe Culture War is every bit as dangerous to the survival of a nation as a foreign army on it’s gates is.
Confuse, demoralize, de-energizeNovember 12, 2024 at 4:49 pm #174192OroborosParticipantDeeply Depressed Kamala Cult follower recovering from crushing Trump Victory
by huffing Unicorn farts…..
November 12, 2024 at 4:50 pm #174193OroborosParticipantNovember 12, 2024 at 4:57 pm #174194Dr. DParticipantThe Unz article is excellent. I’m not confirming the conclusions, just that it’s perfectly possible and able to be substantiated. Thesis: Hey man, they didn’t pass any voter reform. There were some election shenanigans, but they didn’t TRY to really do it. They just DID in 2020, 2022 and no one stopped them, so what gives?
As he says, “If you CAN rig any election, and you CHOOSE not to, isn’t it still actually rigged?” A: Yes it is.
So WHY did they not hold the Maginot Line in the ELECTION and not, say, after, the way I’m suggesting they might? A: Israel. The Middle East. But no, c’mon, not ALL policies boil down to this one, sacrifice ALL social, economic, political…all their candidates…on this one? [ — Stares — ]
Okay, yeah, that’s not as crazy as it seems at first. What do you have as evidence? I’ll give you two facts that don’t fit: RFK and Trump BOTH are hard-line Pro-Israel. …Yet we know they’re not: look at their actions. Look at the things they know and want. Okay, they are hard-line SAYING they are Israel, does that fit better?
Why would they say — and KNOW to say — that even before the election started and never waver, when it’s against the logic of both their platforms? A: Because Unz is right. The only way, or the only way to thread a barn door and not a needle, is to buy off and sign off on this. Then they “Rig” the elections for you…or take their thumb off and DON’T rig them. Either way, they have control, therefore, they are the gatekeepers.
Not that this is any surprise to me. But the question will be, So What? Then What? Last time Israel and Adelson were so retarded they got nothing from Cheeto except he nominally moved the Capital — costing and meaning exactly nothing — and a Abraham Accord that was relatively indifferent, lost in the maze of Middle Eastern Politics. What ACTUALLY happened? Israel still has s–t for weapons, s–t for Iron Dome, it’s all bought from us, none of it works, they are completely battlefield ineffective, their economy stinks…and Trump also stopped ISIS — an Israeli project, Syria — an Israeli project — and bombed one of Israel-run bases with our Tomahawk strike (rumored) after which the requested he not choose targets anymore. Sooooo….sounds like he played Israel to a standstill. Hamas and Hezbollah were untouched, which is why thy are whipping Tel Aviv now, and no war with Iran although they tried with Cheeto several times.
Yeah, if they’re still the gatekeeper, will horse-trade for me to fix and power the U.S. Economy, while allowing me to screw them hollow with empty promises in the Levant, then let them. I’ll sign off (and have to) on loving Israel, then double-cross the f–k out of them later too.
And it won’t take much. Israel is on the ropes, everywhere. All I have to do is drag my feet and go “Oops.” What I’m saying is, ONCE they give Trump power, on this Trump Deal, how do they plan to control him? They would need to have power AFTER handing him the keys. Or else what? You’ll stamp your feet and sue? How funny.
Anyway, there’s so little thinking planetwide, read the article.
November 12, 2024 at 5:02 pm #174195John DayParticipantPower Struggle Continues https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/power-struggles-continue
Celia Farber, Alex Jones Warns The Nation Of Pentagon Coup Against Trump, False Flags That Would Kill Minorities Or Immigrants And Blame Trump, And A Potential Assassination Of Both Trump and Vance
America Hangs In The Balance For Having Refused To Confront The NATURE Of “Democrat” Radicalism; Obama’s Marxist College Friend Recalls His Plan To Achieve The Revolution By Working Within The Party
I feel deeply apprehensive about the next 71 days, and am unable to dismiss Alex Jones’ alarmism about the writing on the wall: The Democrats are very frightening creatures. It should come as no surprise that the “…we have to save our democracy” crowd, speak openly now of pressuring Biden to resign so Kamala can become the “first female President.” They speak openly—openly—as if they are discussing something nice, normal and sound—of installing a President. https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/alex-jones-warns-the-nation-of-pentagonJamal is so cool and bold ;-} CNN Cheers As Top Kamala Staffer Calls For Jan. 6 “Disruption”, Unelected Presidency
Jamal Simmons, the former communications director for Vice President Kamala Harris, elicited audible reactions from CNN panelists Sunday when he called for Democrats to disrupt President-elect Donald Trump’s transition.
Simmons suggested President Joe Biden resign before Trump’s inauguration and make Harris the first woman president on CNN State of the Union.
“There’s one promise left that he could fulfill: being a transitional figure. He could resign the presidency in the next 30 days, make Kamala Harris President of the United States,” he said, prompting CNN’s Scott Jennings to laugh, “woah,” and host Dana Bash to say “wow.”
Harris becoming president would absolve her from having to oversee the transfer of power from Biden to Trump, Simmons said.
If Biden resigns, Harris’s ascension to the Oval Office would leave the role of vice president vacant.
Harris would then have to appoint a vice president that must be confirmed by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress, according to the 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
“Democrats have to learn drama and transparency and doing things that the public will want to see,” Simmons said. “This is the moment to change the entire perspective of how Democrats operate.” https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cnn-cheers-top-kamala-staffer-calls-jan-6-disruption-unelected-presidencyKremlin Says Reports That Trump Spoke To Putin Are ‘Pure Fiction’, Didn’t Happen https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kremlin-says-reports-trump-spoke-putin-are-pure-fiction-didnt-happen
Moon of Alabama: Why Is WaPo Reporting A Trump-Putin Call That Did Not Take Place?
..Who has told Nakashima that a phonecall between Trump and Putin has taken place?
What was the purpose of making such a claim?
I currently fail to come up with satisfactory answers to those questions.
I do believe though that the motive is related to this part of the Post’s report:
[Trump] “reminded him of Washington’s sizable military presence in Europe”
Sorry, but the U.S. presence in Europe, currently some 50,000 soldiers, of whom, at most, some 5,000-7,500 are proper frontline troops, is not something that will make the Kremlin tremble.
So: Who would want to put the presence of U.S. troops in Europe into a discussion about Ukraine? For what purpose? https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/11/why-is-wapo-reporting-a-trump-putin-call-that-did-not-take-place.html#moreNovember 12, 2024 at 5:04 pm #174196John DayParticipant “I Was Paid Nothing”: Oprah Denies Million Dollar Payment By Harris Campaign
A TMZ reporter confronted Oprah Winfrey about claims she was paid a million dollars to host a town hall for Kamala Harris’ failed presidential campaign. Oprah rejected those claims. While she may be correct that she did not receive a personal fee, her production company did receive campaign funds from the Harris team. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-was-paid-nothing-oprah-denies-million-dollar-payment-harris-campaign House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan added, “The biggest question is what happened to the 10 Million voters that Joe Biden got but didn’t come up for Kamala Harris? President Trump’s numbers were right up where they were in 2020 but the Democrats were much lower.” https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/where-are-bidens-81-million-votes-jordan-crushes-cnn-gotcha-question
Jim Kunstler, Mysteries Revealed
“People in the media are aware of how illegitimately they’ve done their jobs that they think they’re on the verge of being locked up” —Scott Adams
You must admit, it’s a little spooky how quickly and rigorously Mr. Trump intends to deconstruct those parts of the government at war with the people: clean out “rogue bureaucrats,” firehose the malignant agencies, release and expose their document trails on spying, censorship, lawfare, and abuse-of-power. The consequence would be the return of consequence in our national life. It’s been absent for so long you can hardly imagine its power to get people’s minds right. There are already reports of frenzy among the culpable DOJ lawyers, and FBI Director Wray is set to resign before Mr. Trump can fire him. Attorney General Merrick Garland has gone radio-silent for his own good since Election Day. Expect many abiding mysteries to get unraveled, such as exactly how many federal agents did work the crowd around the Capitol on J-6, 2021 — which Mr. Wray has pretended to not be able to discuss “due to ongoing investigations.” Expect to learn more about the pipe-bomb caper at the DNC HQ a few blocks away that same day. Prepare to be amazed at how deeply criminal these schemes were…
..And then, of course, there are the long-running rumors of pedophilia and human trafficking networks among the elite, the Jeffrey Epstein list and the P. Diddy list. If these things exist, and they are released, history would shudder. Think: the Clinton Foundation.
These people are looking ahead 70 days with visions of shoes dropping and hammers falling. If the mysteries are revealed, it’s hard to imagine that criminal proceedings would not be far behind. You can also imagine that the motivation across a broad and powerful elite class runs white-hot to stop Mr. Trump from entering the Oval Office. So, these days ahead will be fraught with threats, schemes, plots, ploys, and deceptions. The paranoia must be out of this world among people who still have the resources and hold the levers-of-power needed to undertake nefarious deeds.
There is chatter about “a coup” being considered among as-yet-unnamed parties in the Pentagon to prevent Mr. Trump from rising back into power. https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/mysteries-revealedNovember 12, 2024 at 5:05 pm #174197John DayParticipant John Ward, The Slog: EXPLOSIVE: Trump/RFKJr vaccine/bioweapon showdown this Wednesday
RFKJr is less than pleased with Trump’s choice of White House Chief of Staff, and hugely pissed about the leaks to CBS et al suggesting a dilution of his remit in terms of both Big Pharma power in general and CDC/FDA corruption in particular.
As a reasonably savvy anti-Big Business lawyer with an impeccable track record, RFKJr is nobody’s idiot.
It is already widely known that Kennedy has ‘a meeting with senior Team Trump officials’ scheduled for this coming Wednesday 13th at 4 pm Washington time about “confirmation” of his role as Witchfinder General.
What I can now tell you is that – if the meeting doesn’t go his way – Bobby will play hardball up to and including a repudiation of Trumpism when it comes to Healthcare and bioweaponry geopolitics. https://therealslog.com/2024/11/11/explosive-trump-rfkjr-vaccine-bioweapon-showdown-this-wednesday/#like-150957 “They Just Got Handed Fraudulent Books” – Ed Dowd Confirms Our Warning That Trump Is ‘Inheriting A Turd Of An Economy’
Dowd predicts the economy is poised to “roll over” and soon.
Why is the Fed cutting rates with a record high DOW? Maybe they see the same thing he does. Dowd explains, “Real weekly wage growth was minus 2% going into the election. It is also interesting to know that minus 2% number of wage growth was also in 1980 when Ronald Reagan won in a landslide and also in 1992 when Bill Clinton won in a landslide…”
“I have never seen such blatant manipulation of government statistics. There is government spending and government hiring to paper over what is truly a bad economy for the average man.” … Government statistics will be updated, and it will show we started a recession sometime this year.. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-just-got-handed-fraudulent-books-ed-dowd-warns-trump-inheriting-turd-economy They did this in Houston in 1982-1983, when the economy was so bad because of low oil prices, raided factories, week after week.
Incoming Border Czar Plans Worksite Raids To Bust Migrant Sex, Labor Trafficking Networks https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-taps-former-ice-director-tom-homan-border-czarBased on his campaign trail statements, President-elect Donald Trump is poised to sign a flurry of executive orders as soon as he regains power on Jan. 20, 2025. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-expect-trumps-first-day-office
Tucker Carlson endorses Rick Scott for GOP Senate leader, rips Mitch McConnell. “What the hell is going on in the US Senate?” Tucker asked on X. “Hours after Donald Trump wins the most conclusive mandate in 40 years, Mitch McConnell engineers a coup against his agenda by calling early leadership elections in the senate.” “Two of the three candidates hate Trump and what he ran on. One of them, John Cornyn, is an angry liberal whose politics are indistinguishable from Liz Cheney’s.” “The election is Wednesday, it’s by secret ballot, and it will determine whether or not the new administration succeeds. Rick Scott of Florida is the only candidate who agrees with Donald Trump.” https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1855385122884956216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1855385122884956216%7Ctwgr%5Ed49db9cb6581d419f9fb6fe9165240857ce0e80b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nakedcapitalism.com%2F2024%2F11%2Flinks-11-10-2024.html
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