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    Egon Schiele Port of Trieste 1907     Don’t miss the update on our support for the Monastiraki social kitchen in Athens.. And please conside
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    #65960
    Dr. D
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    “Most Coronavirus Cases Are Spread by People Without Symptoms – CDC (CNN)”

    CNN so it’s clearly a lie. So much Science I can’t keep up. I think less than 5 days ago, major story came out that it CAN’T be spread by people without symptoms. I think ALSO the CDC. But they contradict themselves for the last 50 years and blame US for not trusting them and being scientific. And back and forth on this since day one. Which sells more tests? Which sells more fear? Which gives me more power?

    “Do what you’re told!” But Fauc-U, I am! Honest! I am doing exactly what your 60 years of mask studies said, I’m doing everything you said to do in March, and I’m doing what Pelosi and DeBlasio said to do in January. I do what White House reporters do. I’m doing what Chris Cuomo did and I’m doing exactly what Gavin Newsome and the California Health Board do. I do what Denmark told me to do. I do what Sweden told me to do. I do what the Holland Health Director suggested. I do what the Covid advisory board Doctor said: I resist the fabricated and unnecessary end of all human rights and all human wealth. I AM doing what I’m told. By the experts. They have white coats!

    If after a year and a billion cases you still disagree, have no idea what it is, how it works, or what to do about it, whose fault is that? Not mine. Not the poorest and most powerless.

    “WHO still not in favor of lockdowns. But that falls on deaf ears.”

    Their lockdowns worked so well in the 11 months up til now that literally nothing changed, nothing was fixed at all. Just like teh 20-nation study said. I mean that sincerely: the BBC story estimated 25,000 additional Britons were killed from halted access to medical care, equivalent to 250,000 additional deaths in the U.S. Who needs a war? Keep this up for a while, and you’re really talkin’. Deagle will finally be proven correct on the total depopulation of North America.

    Honestly though, I’m not blind to the real stats: Overall all-in deaths is unchanged. COVID is killing no one, it’s just transferring other deaths, most noticeably Influenza, but many others to itself. Death from lack of health care is probably real but being offset by reduced traffic deaths from staying home.

    That said: so no one is killed, no one is saved, right? So the only decision here is: do you want to live in eternal fear, transferring the entire economy to a few centralized oligarchs, and do you want the end of human rights, free speech, free assembly, free action, freedom of motion, forever?

    Apparently we know: People are overwhelmingly in favor of slavery, for themselves and their children. They overwhelmingly adore poverty and oppression. They would rather believe the TV than talk to and stand with their families, especially their children. Truth is the only enemy. Truth we arrive at using open discussion and public sharing of information.

    “Portuguese Court: PCR Tests “Unreliable” & Quarantines “Unlawful” (OffG)”

    This is true in many ways: one, the test itself says it’s not for diagnostic purposes. What? What’s it for then, an expensive paperweight? Second, hospitals in the U.S. have stopped using them for exactly this reason: they don’t work accurately and adequately. For them, a test with even a small level of error is more a menace than a help. Imagine, say, 80% (they say it may be barely 3% accurate); 2 in 10 tests are wrong. So you re-test. 2 in 10 of those are wrong. How many tests do you have to give to be certain enough to take the kind of overwhelming, serious, expensive responses of COVID quarantine? And if the test is wrong, remember: you are putting an uninfected person into an area they might contract it and die. Having walked in healthy and COVID-free, because of your test.

    …The test that the test creator himself said should never be used this way. But who cares about science, right? Who reads the box that says, “Not to be used for diagnosis” or “This mask is not a medical device and stos nothing.”

    But profits are booming!!!

    mm

    Yellow Vest protests have stopped. Lockdowns underway worldwide, which “Gives us an opportunity” to do whatever we feel like, says Justin.

    And about banning, Twitter (I think) banned the Danish study on masks because: not doctors. Not doctors censor real doctors to prevent them from speaking about medicine. We always trust anyone who isn’t a doctor when talking about medicine. That’s just common sense.

    “Rudy Giuliani: Sidney Powell Not Part of Trump Legal Team (JTN)”

    Remember the laser-pointer cat thing back in the ’19 hurricane? Yes, that was Trump trolling the press for being so stupid, so retarded, so illogical, so illiterate, having such a short attention span, that he just runs them around chasing their baying beagle tails from one stupid thing to the next. Remember when he said the Squad should go back where they come from? Yeah, he was passing major immigration legislation then. No one noticed. I think there was something with sharpies.

    Totally unrelated: Powell can’t get her Flynn case to court since Federal Judges run both the defense and the prosecution these days, and has some free time to discuss outrageous election allegations. Now these are probably true which is why they’re going bananas over them, but are they provable? Are they being presented in court?

    Meanwhile Giuliani is presenting extremely boring, mundane Constitutional process objections about equal access that the press doesn’t care about. But are extremely simple to prove and near-certain to win.
    This is what happens when you send your daughters to Columbia Journalism: they become illiterate boobs incapable of the thinking level of a 12-year-old. What few thoughts that remain are about TikTok likes and last less than 60 seconds.

    But like I said, this is all theory and has nothing to do with any actual strategy that’s being actually pursued right now.

    “Taxpayers Face $435 Billion in Student-Loan Losses Already Baked In (WS)”

    Softening them up for the giveaway. The giveaway is this: give up all your rights and we’ll forgive the debts that we created from pure fraud and never had any risk of defaulting in the first place. Deal?

    “China Daily Paid US Newspapers Millions to Publish Propaganda this Year (DC)”

    Legal and a weakness of our system. But only if you have exclusive crony monopoly system and no competition. The strength of our system is that citizens quickly realized the papers are lying and boycotted them. They quickly moved away from every mainstream to alternative sources and a few honest remaining papers. So the army was originally aggregated into a mass, but when attacked, scattered into every nook of the countryside, taking ten-thousand forms, and are all shooting back at once. So whose approach is stronger? Authoritarians? Or Libertarians?

    #65961
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/11/historys-next-rhyme.html
    (Picture of banana patch with first plants yesterday morning)

    “Reset” wasn’t previously a bad word, but now it’s getting that way. I liked it because it was neutral and without a lot of baggage.
    I want to use it neutrally at first, if I may.
    We are a very effective species at getting our needs met. We communicate with each other, use tools, use tools and energy to make tools and harvest energy to make tools and energy and food.
    And we communicate over vast stretches of time and distance now.
    Nothing can stand in our way but success, and the class of special humans that has arisen in the millennia preceding our births, the class of kings and nobles (and bankers, and the CIA, and so on). This special class of people swings into action to get rid of entire populations of humans when the population outgrows the food supply.
    This helps our species continue living, moving, solving problems, growing food, finding water and fuel, and living.
    It is technically possible to work things out without these specialists in population reduction, but we are not used to it, and we have not really come to grips with the issue, itself. Each of us sees a small part of the great world, and few can grasp that all the people in a region have surpassed the ability of the region to feed them.
    This is a very unpopular topic, and strictly forbidden in most polite circles.
    For me to suggest that the kings, lords, rulers and powerful functionaries have the useful purpose of killing a lot of people from time to time, without being seen to have done so, is not just unusual, and rude, but weird.
    Everybody knows that wars happen accidentally, or from bad guys, or religion, racism, misunderstandings, and things like that.
    My thesis is simpler, that the cold hearted power elites use wars to kill off a bunch of people when the economy fails, and to induce the surviving people to work hard, doing what they are told to do for the good of their whole clan.
    Through this crisis response, a new economy is worked out. It is our way.

    I see this cycle of history as being different from the recent cycles we have studied in history, because the food supply we are now outpacing is more intricate, as it is driven by vast cheap energy to do almost all of the work, transport food thousands of miles to us, and to spend 10 calories of diesel energy equivalent for every calorie of food we eat. When diesel (and electricity, etc.) declines, we get poor, and when it declines more, we may break the economy that supports our lives, go through desperate hardship for indefinite periods of time, and even behave badly along the way.
    Wars are already being imposed upon people who live on top of oil, forcing their economies into failure to support them. That keep their economies sitting on the oil, not using it. The kings and owners will need it. Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Venezuela all have a moderately good grasp of this dynamic. There is really no limit to the populations who have to do with less oil, through economic destruction, so the owners can keep the overall structure , their power structure, intact. That is of primary importance to them, and they make all the decisions.
    Glenn Greenwald points out his observation that the ruling coalition is composed of all those power figures who oppose withdrawing from the war in Afghanistan (which was justified only by lies, and was done for geopolitical reasons). https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-new-ruling-coalition-opposition
    Nuclear weapons change the old model, but the same tools of fear, panic, blaming the “enemy”, and blind obedience because the family will die if you stop to ask questions, still apply.
    Joseph Mercola DO has this good article about “The Great Reset” leveraged off COVID-19. It’s not a fake virus, but the fear factor is amplified 100 times over what would be promoted to society if “a great reset” were not at hand for structural reasons like finite oil being unable to catch up to infinitely leveraged debt bubbles, built on debt bubbles. People will have to give up property, privacy, freedom of speech and association, in order to fully submit to the new technocratic system (a high tech fascism, and China is ahead). I’m not a follower of Dr Mercola, but this article is right on, especially since he cuts and pastes long excerpts from “The Great Reset For Dummies” by Tessa (fights robots) Lena.

    I am certain this techno-fascism approach cannot work at the goal I see, which is to maximize the rich complexity of life on earth through enhancing complex ecosystems, not simplifying them. That’s my view, and it is the opposite of the techno-fascists who seek to simplify life to monoculture systems which they control through genetic engineering, factory farms, and chemical inputs made in factories on the Texas gulf coast. For the ruling elites, all permission must come from them, from the top, otherwise they are losing power, “melting, melting…”
    My advocacy of the antithesis of this, maximizing the richness and complexity of life, which is typified by the Amazon rain forest, arose from my meditations and thoughts on “the meaning/purpose of life”. My simplest and broadest take was that a sterile ball of metals , dirt and water receiving solar energy is the antithesis of life’s goals. We all inherently understand that life is better, and more life is better-er. In the Amazon, the photosynthetic energy of 1 photon may click through a dozen life forms as that energy clicks down a tiny bit each time in the cascade of organisms giving to and feeding off other organisms and their left-overs. Using factory farming techniques, poisons like roundUp and DDT kill all life except the monorop, and it dies and is harvested, feeding only humans or cattle or pigs, then being processed into “food” to be bought and consumed one time by one person, whose waste goes into a landfill and a treatment plant. That reduces the dozen steps of the photon supporting life down to maybe 3, but you have to average that with the time the field sits bare and poisoned, with dead soil, just awaiting fertilizer and irrigation water.

    Self organizing complex living systems are way smarter and more adaptive than our tunnel vision narcissistic and sociopathic class of kings, spooks and bankers.
    My highest purpose in this value system is to be a steward of life.
    My approach to “The Great Reset” is to foster life in every nook and cranny, life that feeds me and helps me feed other life and keep feeding living cycles like compost heaps and worms and bees and birds (and , disappointingly, squirrels, raccoons, possums, and bucks who antler-shred my fruit trees in rutting season). I am just working this out as I go, seeking tricks that don’t use poison and bullets.
    I still drive. I still have lots of fossil fuel inputs to my vegetable gardens, but I am trying to limit them to initial investments, and find ways to move forward with complex life supporting me and an increasingly well balanced food growing ecosystem.
    I’m learning. I’m passing it on. I hope I am only beginning a process that will become wiser and more complex with passing generations, a renaissance of life, and orchestra and ballet of life, dancing life, complex and vivid and resilient.

    #65963
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ John Day
    What is the purpose of human life on earth?
    We are factories making and spreading microscopic life.
    Our bodies are specialized microscopic factories.

    references
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Microbiome_Project#:~:text=The%20Human%20Microbiome%20Project%20%28HMP%29%20was%20a%20United,focused%20on%20identifying%20and%20characterizing%20human%20microbial%20flora.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genomics
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora
    The colon, in contrast, contains the highest microbial density recorded in any habitat on Earth[13] with up to 1012 cells per gram of intestinal content.[11] These bacteria represent between 300 and 1000 different species.[11][12] However, 99% of the bacteria come from about 30 or 40 species.[14] As a consequence of their abundance in the intestine, bacteria also make up to 60% of the dry mass of feces.[15] Fungi, protists, archaea, and viruses are also present in the gut flora, but less is known about their activities.[16]
    Over 99% of the bacteria in the gut are anaerobes, but in the cecum, aerobic bacteria reach high densities.[4] It is estimated that these gut flora have around a hundred times as many genes in total as there are in the human genome.[17]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(biology)
    Humans are involved in mutualisms with other species: their gut flora is essential for our efficient digestion
    Our digestion is dependent on the digestion product of the bacteria digestion.
    http://www-archbac.u-psud.fr/Meetings/LesTreilles/LesTreilles_e.html
    LUCA (the Last Universal Common Ancestor)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion
    —–
    Release your imagination

    Avatar
    The Tree of Souls
    , besides being a connection to Eywa, also works as a way for her to directly interact with the world through the seeds of the tree. The tree has the capability to connect directly to the human nervous system, despite humans lacking a queue. The roots of the Tree of Souls are capable of initiating a neural link with the Na’vi, like with the Tree of Voices. This allows all of the Na’vi to unite as one.

    #65964
    zerosum
    Participant

    Print trillion of dollars
    Results
    1. for you and me ….. longer life of Lockdowns, restrictions, curfews, poverty, death, homeless, suffering
    2. for the elites and the enablers ….. longer life of improvement of lifestyles

    #65965
    zerosum
    Participant

    “What could Trump do to crash markets at this point?”
    —–
    1. Stop printing money
    2. Impose/control health costs
    3. Bring the troops home
    4. Pardon prisoners, close the prisons
    5. Arrest the elites and the enablers
    6. Make illegal immigrants legal.

    #65966
    Geppetto
    Participant

    I’ve been watching this one since Raul started posting the Worldometer Covid stats every morning. On the average about 350,000 babies are born and a 150,000 people die…..every day.

    https://www.worldometers.info/


    @John
    Day

    Lead from the front big brother.

    @ Zerosum

    I think that Freud and Jung were only partially correct about their dream theories. I think some dream information is encoded in DNA as well.

    #65968
    Noirette
    Participant

    Benton Smith on prev. thread asked about the early cases of COV19:

    Why didn’t they spread?

    Here is another (imho): Virginia retirement home outbreak, July 2019:

    https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/respiratory-outbreak-investigated-retirement-community-54-residents-fall/story?id=64275865

    Plus, the vaping illness, EVALI, a complicated, dicey story.

    As it is presented, it had nothing to do with COV19. Took off Aug. 2019 – peaked in Sept. 2019 – died out in Jan. 2020 (when COV19 ‘arose’..) Close on 3K hospitalized cases, 68 ppl died, USA. I see the CDC has changed its page, it used to list symptoms (identical to COV19) right on the front, no more – now it is all about smoking, vaping dangers.

    https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html

    but see: https://www.webmd.com/lung/features/vaping-illness-symptoms

    At the Wuhan military games, Oct. 2019,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games,

    Many of the contestants fell ill. Amongst the French delegation, after COV19 became official, they almost all said, it was the Corona. The Gvmt. first denied this was possible and then shut up (best way to kill a story.) The article below – one ex. from MSM – also details that the F Ministry of the Armies forbade participants from answering journo questions about this matter. The woman gold winner pictured was sick as a dog, her partner too.. In French:

    https://sport.francetvinfo.fr/omnisport/des-sportifs-francais-contamines-par-le-covid-19-des-octobre-aux-jeux-militaires-de-wuhan

    So, it did spread, and many ppl fell ill, recall the death rate for under 50’s is way below 1% – not very noticeable. It spread the same way it is spreading now, but ‘less’ as there were ‘less’ points of infection.

    It was only when it hit Wuhan and some Chinese Docs – Dr. Li (died), the coordinator of a small group of 8 or so Docs – that it was properly identified. Or became an acknowledged, official virus on the Int’l stage.

    (This does not address where, how COV19 originated.)

    #65969
    John Day
    Participant

    Good work, Noirette! I have tracked these same incidents. I continue to suspect that the bug leaked from Ft Detrick MD, which was closed for a breach in late July 2019, and opened again in November.
    Thnks Geppetto. I just had lunch in Yoakum, put pavers around the banana patch nd am about to dig in the 3 bigger plants and another little one.

    @Zerosum
    : Our place in the universe, a classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6ugTmCYMk

    #65970
    zerosum
    Participant

    Noirette
    From your french link I found a point of view of what is happening in Africa with covid19
    https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/video-covid-19-comment-l-afrique-fait-elle-face-a-la-pandemie_4189343.html

    John Day
    You hit my funny bone MEANING YOU MADE ME HAPPY LOL

    #65971
    Dave Note
    Participant

    James Kunstler on Sidney and Rudi:

    “It’s hard to imagine that Miz Powell and Mr. Giuliani would sacrifice their reputations on some kind of bluff. Anyway, what’s to bluff in this game? I don’t believe this [duo] would bring a wiffle bat to a gunfight.”

    #65972
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Oh America, land of the bended knee, home of the mage: first it was the magical bullet, now you have the magical voting machine, conjuring votes out of thin air and summoning the dead; America, always eager to entertain…

    #65973
    WES
    Participant

    John Day:

    Our standard of living is directly proportional to the amount of energy used. More energy = higher living standard.

    Sadly even so called “green” energy sources such as wind turbines and solar panels require outside energy inputs to sustain them. In other words they don’t produce enough energy to replace themselves. Without fossil fuels we couldn’t produce and use wind turbines and solar panels. Fossil fuels are required to maintain them. (Disclosure: My son works maintaining GE wind turbines.)

    With an electrical background, I have enjoyed building my own wind turbines and solar panels and playing around with them. Far more energy went into them than ever came out of them! But they were fun toys to make!

    #65974
    WES
    Participant

    Sadly, when it comes to rigging elections, the riggers own the political actors and the judges.

    Sidney Powel is putting up the good fight, but the system dooms her efforts.

    #65975
    WES
    Participant

    John Day:

    Your banana plantation looks awesome! It looks like you put in a lot of energy into it!

    I look outside my windows, here in Toronto, and all I see is snow as far as the eye can see!

    Our pet rabbit, Moki, is hiding in the solarium!

    P.S. Moki loves bananas!

    #65976
    Bill7
    Participant

    From CJ Hopkins’s latest:

    “..I am calling them “totalitarians.” Which, at this point, given everything we know, if you’re still pretending that this coronavirus in any way warrants the increasingly ridiculous “emergency measures” we are being subjected to, I’m sorry, but that is what you are.

    You may not believe that is what you are … totalitarians never do, not until it is far too late.

    It functions like a cult, totalitarianism. It creeps up on you, little by little, little lie by little lie, accommodation by accommodation, rationalization by rationalization … until one day you find yourself taking orders from some twisted little narcissistic nihilist on a mission to remake the entire world. You don’t surrender to it all at once. You do it over the course of weeks and months..”

    The Germans Are Back!

    #65977
    Bill7
    Participant

    MoA’s take on the “pandemic”:
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/pandemic-freedom.html#more

    No comment

    #65978
    Bill7
    Participant

    On second thought, I will comment: these sites say that we need to [temporarily™, heh] give up almost all that
    in fact makes us human, like socializing; being able to see each others’ faces; not breathing through an effing
    mask (bad for one’s health in itself, without question); all to “stop a virus” that cannot in fact be stopped, anyway.. check the under-65 mortality stats for the Megadeath Virus of Doom, and then decide if destroying
    the civil liberties (likely for all time) of the world’s citizenries really makes sense (except if you’re
    ultra-rich)..

    “not with a bang, but with a whimper..” -TS Eliot

    #65979
    Bill7
    Participant

    An aside: I’m starting to wonder how much various persons are either paid or encouraged, these days, to
    use the words “in this Pandemic”.. I live in a reasonably cosmopolitan region (central coast California),
    and see *no evidence* firsthand of a “pandemic” (that’s really all I trust, these days); just 24/7 media
    bleatings to that effect, including from virtually all the internet sites that I formerly saw as people-oriented..

    “Ebreybuddy say “Pandemmick!!!”

    -Bill7

    #65980
    Bill7
    Participant

    Commenter at Off-G:

    >Maxwell
    Nov 23, 2020 2:32 AM

    I’ve been looking over overall death totals from the US these past few days. While some of you know from my comments I have been chronicling the fraud of the entire Covid narrative from Day One I think it’s now time for me to recant, for all of us to recant. As the numbers below illustrate this thing is very real. Not only is it real but it has been with us for years- Covid you see is in our past, present and future. Not only do we need to lockdown but we need to do it in a way to make amends for not locking down in previous years- maybe think of it as atonement for enjoying walking around freely in past times when death was hittin’ us just as hard as it is now.

    Consider the following figures from the good old, albeit crumbling, US of A.

    US Total deaths by year per CDC:
    2013: 2,596,993
    2014: 2,626,418
    2015: 2,712,630
    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,813,503
    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,855,000
    2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

    At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

    However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019? Where was the media on this- sleeping on the job? Should we not have been in full blown hysteria with windows shut and full blown anti-viral gear strapped to our faces?

    But wait it’s even scarier- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020’s increase rate- any sane person would see these are clearly pandemicky figures no? <

    Super-ultra-scarey! I think we all oughta “self-quarantine™” ’til we’re dead of despair, so as to stay ultra-super
    safe, forever.. After all, what’s a life for, if not for staying safe™ (dog, I hope never hear those two words cojoined again..)

    The elites are winning this without even a fight- they must be laughing their a**es off.

    #65981
    Bill7
    Participant

    More from Off-G:

    > just read this on Moon of Alabama Website:

    “In my view that warning is not strong enough.
    There should be more draconic measures and restrictions of freedom to prevent higher Covid-19 casualties.”

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/pandemic-freedom.html#more

    More repression = more FreeDom, according to Bernhard- so cool!

    Wasn’t there an apposite quote- maybe from Upton Sinclair- about what our form of fascism
    was going to look like? Looks like B and many others are now carrying that torch..

    puh

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