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    Pablo Picasso Carnival Bistro [Study] 1908   • The Unforgivable Sin (VanDen Bossche) • All You Need To Know About Vaccine Failure In One Incredib
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 9 2021]

    #89586
    Germ
    Participant

    The scary bell cannot be unrung.

    Job done!

    Media Covid lies never end.

    https://news.yahoo.com/york-times-retracts-massive-exaggeration-163906675.html

    #89587
    Germ
    Participant

    Must watch:

    “In the third and final part of “2020: A Propaganda Masterpiece”, Professor Mark Crispin Miller of New York University illustrates how the sudden overthrow of political freedom and bodily sovereignty, nominally triggered of necessity by the emergence of a deadly novel pathogen, has in truth been heading straight for us since November 22, 1963, when President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas.”

    #89588
    Germ
    Participant

    Cue Bill Gates et. al. gleefully rubbing their hands ….

    “Too many people are dying and it’s starting to worry the demographers”

    Too many people are dying and it’s starting to worry the demographers

    #89589
    Germ
    Participant

    “Ottawa will prohibit all unvaccinated people from leaving Canada”.

    Even foreign citizens — if you’re in Canada as a tourist, a student, a foreign worker, etc. — you literally won’t be allowed to fly out from any airport.

    https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1830094/avion-trudeau-covid-canada-interdiction-voyage

    #89590
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “When This Happens the U.S. Will Be Just Weeks Away From a Debt Crisis”

    How about when like infants they seriously discuss printing a trillion dollar coin? That’s a red flag if I ever saw one. Geez, if only OTHER nations had thot of that. We’re so Schmartz!

    Maybe so, certainly no one is ever ready, but I don’t think anybody takes civil war lightly but white, suburban, basement dwelling leftists, but if not for Cheeto and Mr. 17 we’d long have been in shooting. Instead of Antifa doing the shooting for us and getting free bail from Madam President. There was a document we wrote on this, maybe you’ve heard of it.

    “Prudence indeed will dictate that Governments should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. – Such has been the patient sufferance of these people.”

    What would they provide?

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. –That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    What are those rights?

    “1. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a Woke, Science religion, or prohibiting the free exercise of other Christian religions; they shall not abridge the freedom of speech, in person or online, or of the press, even the citizen press, or Australians not residing in the U.S., or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, even when someone says there might be a medical outbreak, and are always allowed to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, even if they are at a PTA meeting, or are soldiers expressing their personal views.

    2. Since a standing Army exists only in times of war, the citizen Militia is necessary to secure a free State, therefore the right of the people to keep and bear such nation-killing military Arms shall not be infringed in any way.

    3. No Soldier shall in time of peace be quartered in any house without the consent of the Owner; nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. Not even during a pandemic, where all U.S. militarymen, diplomats, and government employees may not be quartered on rental property, or by mortgage for free.

    4. Since people are sovereign in themselves, the state needs procedure and just cause to invade their privacy. Therefore, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures shall never be violated, and no Warrants shall issue but upon specific probable cause, supported by public Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the exact place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized, with no resort to fishing expeditions or nation-wide, citizen-wide sweeps and scans of all data, stored forever. Not even if the data is privately collected, for looking at that public data is itself a search.

    5. No witness shall be compelled to testify against themselves, even in cases of treason, or even if their name is Chelsea Manning or Donald Trump, or Jack Posobiec. There is no Civil forfeiture, because there cannot be ANY deprivation of life, liberty, or property without full due process of law; even in the case of firearms, or drugs, even in the case of pandemics, nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation, be it property for mall developers, border walls, or services, property and inventory lost due to nationwide shutdowns, or services such as rent.

    6. In all criminal prosecutions, including those of foreign journalists and publishers, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, far less than one year, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed; as the crime must have been previously defined, and they are to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Therefore there are no secret trials, nor secret warrants. Should the State hide evidence, tamper with documents, slow the trial, or attempt spurious and friendly jurisdictions, the trial is forfeit and the accused will be released, even if it’s a special council, OR the FBI serially fabricating things, even if the accused published embarrassing things, or are named Donald Trump.

    Need I go on? Or as to why The Redneck Manifesto: “Come make me”? As in “You and whose Army?”

    Hey boyz, ya only got 13,000 FBI agents. How exactly do you propose to come make oh, let’s say 80 million deeply-armed citizens do f-all for ya? That’s a 6,000:1 Agent-to-redneck ratio. And the FBI is pathetically under-armed.

    Look, nobody wants these things. That’s why we disagree with Antifa and the Left and unlike them, WE say, “Governments should NOT be changed for light and transient causes” that is, NO “revolution”, NO “burn it all down”, but restoration and return to rule of law, and that’s why we “are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right ourselves” …and we proved that for decades, and they know it. It’s their sorest point, as their whole strategy depended on the “Right” being violent, which it isn’t. Or being offensive, not defensive, which it isn’t. …I mean if 30 years you hadn’t noticed, lost between “The New Yorker” and “The Atlantic”.

    However, you do have a nationwide, worldwide situation in search of a spark. That spark could be bad, like a fire, or good, like a galvanizing reaction. There’s only one truism here: they lost. Their position is unsustainable and they will not survive. At all.

    And keeping us innocent as doves, they also seem hell-bent on providing that spark, relighting it if we put it out, fan it wildly if they can find one, inventing many, many sparks in Chicago and Minnesota that aren’t even there. Okay boyz, you who are the impossibly, wildly, ludicrously outnumbered. If you won’t be satisfied except that you tangle with the people on a 6,000:1 ratio some day you might get your deepest wish. Just remember WE DON’T NEED GUNS. We can SIT on you. If each one of us threw in the TIRE IRON next to our Gilet Jaunes you’d be crushed under three tons of steel. We could crush you with the dead flashlights, takeout boxes, and loose change in the seat.

    What am I saying? THE POWER IS IN THE PEOPLE. They maketh government, and they taketh government away, at their leisure. See if they don’t.

    Looking forward to seeing Garland’s PTA Gestapo. Biden’s vax door-to-door died stillborn, before we could even get fun photos of chasing them back down the street where they done come from. We’ll find that his plan is to mouth off uselessly and make a few examples, being unable to carry out any meaningful action in any way.

    So…colleges in BOSTON and Philly are booing unprompted, every day, just for larks? Colleges of DNC men of DNC age in DNC strongholds? Ever heard of Molon labe? Sic semper? The ARMY is against you. The NAVY is against you. The YOUTH are against you, #1 non-compliance. 21 STATES are against you. The states that are FOR you are against you, as Illinois, Georgia, and Michigan are planets of deep red surrounded by one blue dot. Everyone in Upstate NY he says is ignoring all rules and mandates. Jon Stewart, Bill Maher and Nikki Manaj are against you. Who do you think is left FOR you? And the money’s run out.

    Suit yourself boyz. I know you won’t be happy ‘til you do. Am I, or are we, ready? Nobody’s ready, but when has that ever mattered? They’re coming and there is was never any choice for us in the matter. Not in the Anglo-colonial wars of 1770, 1812, 1860, or 1941. We only wanted to be left alone, like the document and contract – covenant really – that we signed above. You just do the good and honorable thing with whatever you have, because that is the fate of true men, to live and die with honor, as men.

    Perhaps you have another way.

    Sad discussion. Don’t care for it that much.

    #89591
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    I think this really is very close to the truth:

    #89592
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    A comment to yesterday’s “Vaxx is Dead” by praecursator:

    “Was hoping the fellow in the video: My Jaw dropped when I Tested Someone’s Immune System After the 2nd Jab, Dr. Nathan Thompson, was a physician, too! – but he’s a chiropractor: Chiropractor Yorkville IL – Exemplify Health Center .

    Bummer”

    Medical professionals in corp medicine aren’t looking for things like this or they would find it as well (such as the doctor who found elevated d-dimer in his vaxxed patients and was immediately censored).

    There is a REASON why corp med has spent decades outright preventing alternative treatment providers from gaining a foothold. Here in NY, for example, a naturopath can’t be licensed and so can’t order blood tests, prescribe meds, etc. There has even been on/off talk of banning the use of homeopathic remedies altogether.

    It’s getting easier and easier to see why corp medicine worked so hard to squelch alternative treatment providers, isn’t it?

    The chiro requested blood tests. He didn’t PERFORM the tests. Is there some reason why, just because he’s a chiro, the results of the tests are invalid?

    We shouldn’t jump on the corp med bandwagon by dissing alt treatment providers. After this debacle is finally dead and buried they may form the backbone of what we have left of medicine.

    #89593
    chooch
    Participant

    Timely links (thanks Raul), they will be useful in formulating my exemption request that we can begin submitting come Monday.

    I am looking for the estimation of the number of mRNA instructions (spikes) in a jab. Much appreciation to anyone that can link me to this info.

    #89594
    chooch
    Participant

    upstateNYer,

    Well said, facts/data are no respecter of persons. It up to us to discern irrespective of the source whether we are being intentionally deceived. The formula that Chirpractor=untruth and medical doctor=truth is for the lazy minded.

    #89595
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Thank you, chooch.

    #89596
    chooch
    Participant

    Dr. D, when I quote you and people ask I will respond “Haven’t you read the Dr. D translation?” Nice, I like the innocent dove reference. All and all spoken like a wise serpent (Matt. 10:16)

    #89597
    absolute galore
    Participant

    The Wanker video is kinda awesome. Although the claim that the “people will win” sadly sounds hollow, especially in England with so many there all vaxxed up. Fingers crossed.

    #89598
    teri
    Participant

    @ Cooch;

    Yesterday, you said to me, “Anyway, the guys I work with are coming up bagel as to the existence of an EO. Here are a couple articles that hilight it’s non existence.”

    I am answering here, since people seldom return to a previous comment thread. I did some research into the executive order and found what I believe is the answer. This will be long, but I wanted to include all the pertinent info for you and your coworkers. I am providing links to my sources. Oh, and for some reason I no longer have formatting options showing up for me to use (so I can’t block-quote) – so I put a row of stars above and below any direct quotes.

    All the stuff below is pertinent to Federal employees and companies that contract with the Federal government. It is NOT the same as the mandate shit for private businesses; OSHA is supposedly in the process of writing mandate rules for them, although so far they have not actually issued anything.

    Biden issued an EO on Sept 9 regarding vaccines for the federal employees, including contractors. This is part of a blurb on the White House website from an article they titled, “Vaccines Requirement Report”:

    *************
    […] Starting in July, the President announced a series of vaccination requirements, including:
    Requiring all federal executive branch employees, including the military, and all federal contractors be fully vaccinated. The President signed an Executive Order to require all federal executive branch workers to be vaccinated and another Executive Order extending this standard to employees of federal contractors. Prior to the President’s Executive Order, the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), the Department of Defense (DoD), and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced requirements for certain employees to be fully vaccinated. The new requirement covers more than 3.5 million people and ensures a consistent standard across the federal government. […]

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Vaccination-Requirements-Report.pdf
    *************

    Okay, where is that EO? Well, it is here and it reads in part:

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    Executive Order on Requiring Coronavirus Disease 2019 Vaccination for Federal Employees
    SEPTEMBER 09, 2021

    The health and safety of the Federal workforce, and the health and safety of members of the public with whom they interact, are foundational to the efficiency of the civil service.  I have determined that ensuring the health and safety of the Federal workforce and the efficiency of the civil service requires immediate action to protect the Federal workforce and individuals interacting with the Federal workforce.  It is essential that Federal employees take all available steps to protect themselves and avoid spreading COVID-19 to their co-workers and members of the public.  The CDC has found that the best way to do so is to be vaccinated.

    The Safer Federal Workforce Task Force (Task Force), established by Executive Order 13991 of January 20, 2021 (Protecting the Federal Workforce and Requiring Mask-Wearing), has issued important guidance to protect the Federal workforce and individuals interacting with the Federal workforce.  Agencies have also taken important actions, including in some cases requiring COVID-19 vaccination for members of their workforce.  

    Accordingly, building on these actions, and in light of the public health guidance regarding the most effective and necessary defenses against COVID-19, I have determined that to promote the health and safety of the Federal workforce and the efficiency of the civil service, it is necessary to require COVID-19 vaccination for all Federal employees, subject to such exceptions as required by law.

    Sec. 2.  Mandatory Coronavirus Disease 2019 Vaccination for Federal Employees.  Each agency shall implement, to the extent consistent with applicable law, a program to require COVID-19 vaccination for all of its Federal employees, with exceptions only as required by law.  The Task Force shall issue guidance within 7 days of the date of this order on agency implementation of this requirement for all agencies covered by this order. […]

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/09/09/executive-order-on-requiring-coronavirus-disease-2019-vaccination-for-federal-employees/
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    You will note that this “executive order” does not really set forth any rules itself, but asks for agencies to implement whatever guidance the “Task Force” comes up with. Biden has done three things here: 1) he has set up a committee to handle the details rather than the administration itself (plausible deniability), 2) provided the mechanism by which whatever the “Task Force” comes up with is automatically incorporated into the above quoted executive order (so he doesn’t have to issue a new EO just to implement the guidelines, which is just laziness on his part), and 3) he has demanded that vaccinations have to be included in those guidelines (which kinda over-rides the plausible deniability he sought with item #1 that I postulated.

    I am used to doing research into the mundane and nit-picky bullshit put out by the federal government, so I knew to persist in my quest for information. It is indeed a daunting task for the uninitiated and one not to be taken lightly. But I sallied forth bravely and found that the Task Force has indeed come up with its guidelines and that they do, in fact, include vaccines for gov’t contractors. As I said, this guidance is, ipso facto, part of Biden’s EO and as such carries the weight of any EO. (EO’s can be overturned by Congress by passing a bill that blocks it, and then the president can veto the bill and then Congress can override the veto, but that is not going to happen here. Congress loves this shit.)

    Okay, so here is the Task Force guidance issued on 13 Sept:

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    Safer Federal Workforce Task Force
COVID-19 Workplace Safety: Agency Model Safety Principles Last Updated September 13, 2021 (Previously Updated July 29, 2021)
    • Federal Executive Branch employees must be fully vaccinated, except in limited circumstances where an employee is legally entitled to a reasonable accommodation. Agencies must work expeditiously so that their employees are fully vaccinated as quickly as possible and by no later than November 22, 2021. 

    • With the government-wide adoption and implementation of these vaccination requirements, agencies are no longer required to establish a screening testing program for employees or onsite contractor employees who are not fully vaccinated, although they may do so. 

    • The President has announced that Federal contractor employees will be required to be vaccinated. Prior to being contractually required to be vaccinated, onsite contractor employees who are not fully vaccinated and are not part of an agency testing program must provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test from no later than the previous 3 days prior to entry to a Federal building. […]

    Vaccination
    To ensure the safety of the Federal workforce, Federal employees must be fully vaccinated, except in limited circumstances where an employee is legally entitled to a reasonable accommodation. Agencies must work expeditiously so that their employees are fully vaccinated as quickly as possible and by no later than November 22, 2021. […]

    Some contractor employees may not yet be subject to a contractual requirement to be vaccinated, and some visitors may not be fully vaccinated or decline to provide information on their vaccination status. Given the different safety protocols for individuals who are fully vaccinated and those who are not fully vaccinated, agencies need to ask about the vaccination status of visitors to Federal buildings and onsite contractor employees who are not yet contractually required to be vaccinated. Individuals must attest to the truthfulness of the response they provide. When an individual discloses that they are not fully vaccinated or declines to provide information on their vaccination status, agencies should treat that individual as not fully vaccinated for purposes of implementing safety measures, including with respect to mask wearing and physical distancing.

    Onsite contractor employees who are not yet contractually required to be vaccinated and who are not fully vaccinated or who decline to provide information about their vaccination status must provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test from no later than the previous 3 days prior to entry to a Federal building— as noted below, if a contractor employee is regularly tested pursuant to an agency testing program, they do not need to provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test from no later than the previous 3 days prior to entry to a Federal building unless required to by the agency testing program. […]

    https://www.saferfederalworkforce.gov/downloads/updates%20to%20model%20safety%20principles%209.13.21.pdf
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    The above guidance was followed up with more clarification from the Task Force on Sept 24. Also, by the way, they changed the date of vaccine compliance to Dec 8 for contractors (still Nov 22 for regular federal employees). The Federal Acquisition Regulatory (FAR) Council, which had to officially implement the protocols, did so on Sept. 30 with a memo; the memo just says to follow the Task Force guidelines. The new guidance on contractors has this in it:
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    Safer Federal Workforce Task Force
COVID-19 Workplace Safety: Guidance for Federal Contractors and Subcontractors Issued September 24, 2021
    […]
    Pursuant to this Guidance, and in addition to any requirements or workplace safety protocols that are applicable because a contractor or subcontractor employee is present at a Federal workplace, Federal contractors and subcontractors with a covered contract will be required to conform to the following workplace safety protocols:
    1. COVID-19 vaccination of covered contractor employees, except in limited circumstances where an employee is legally entitled to an accommodation; 
[…]

    Guidance
    Covered contractors are responsible for ensuring that covered contractor employees comply with the workplace safety protocols detailed below […]
    1. Vaccination of covered contractor employees, except in limited circumstances where an employee is legally entitled to an accommodation
    Covered contractors must ensure that all covered contractor employees are fully vaccinated for COVID-19, unless the employee is legally entitled to an accommodation. Covered contractor employees must be fully vaccinated no later than December 8, 2021. […]
    An attestation of vaccination by the covered contractor employee is not an acceptable substitute for documentation of proof of vaccination.

    Q4: Who is responsible for determining if a covered contractor employee must be provided an accommodation because of a disability or because of a sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance?
    A: A covered contractor may be required to provide an accommodation to contractor employees who communicate to the covered contractor that they are not vaccinated for COVID-19, or that they cannot wear a mask, because of a disability (which would include medical conditions) or because of a sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance. A covered contractor should review and consider what, if any, accommodation it must offer. The contractor is responsible for considering, and dispositioning, such requests for accommodations regardless of the covered contractor employee’s place of performance. […]

    Q5: Are covered contractor employees who have a prior COVID-19 infection required to be vaccinated?
    A: Yes, covered contractor employees who have had a prior COVID-19 infection are required to be vaccinated.

    Q6: Can a covered contractor accept a recent antibody test from a covered contractor employee to prove vaccination status?
    A: No. A covered contractor cannot accept a recent antibody test from a covered contractor employee to prove vaccination status. […]

    Q11: How does this Guidance apply to covered contractor employees who are authorized under the covered contract to perform work remotely from their residence?
    A: An individual working on a covered contract from their residence is a covered contractor employee, and must comply with the vaccination requirement for covered contractor employees, even if the employee never works at either a covered contractor workplace or Federal workplace during the performance of the contract. […]

    https://www.saferfederalworkforce.gov/downloads/Draft%20contractor%20guidance%20doc_20210922.pdf
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    As I said above somewhere, it appears that this Task Force “guidance” has the weight of an executive order, if only by implication. There is a lot of confusion among contractors about the whole thing and it affects about 80 million people between the federal workforce and the federal contractors. I have no idea how an employer is supposed to decide if an employee’s claim to religious or medical exemption is valid, given that employers are not legally allowed to question an employee about religious beliefs or force them to disclose medical conditions. Whole thing is a boondoggle of a mess with mass confusion running rampant. But it looks like it is “legal” in the sense that it is enshrined in an executive order. The court system may prove that a false assumption, as it has with many executive orders through the years.

    I am sorry this is so long, but I figured you might want to have something to copy (for yourself and/or coworkers) that has all the pertinent quotes and links in one place.

    And sorry to Ilargi, too, for using up so much space on one comment. These mandates demanding an experimental vaccine that doesn’t even work really bug the crap out of me, so I get a tad carried away.
    – Teri

    #89599

    I am looking for the estimation of the number of mRNA instructions

    I remember it was 14,000 trillion, haven’t found the source for it yet.

    #89600
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Today’s NYT headlines. No second thoughts for them after the atrocious “error” their 2019 winner of the Victor Cohn Prize for Excellence in Medical Science Reporting made, confusing the numbers 900,000 and 63,000.

    ‘A Safe Space’: Black Pastors Promote Vaccinations from the Pulpit
    More than 80 percent of adults in New York City have received at least one dose of a Covid vaccine, but there are significant racial disparities.
    If half of what is reported here on TAE about the vaccines is true, those pastors are setting themselves up to lose a significant part of their congregations in the near future.


    First, Vaccines for Covid. Next Up: The Flu.

    Vaccine makers are betting that the mRNA technology powering two successful Covid vaccines will help curb the deadly toll of influenza.

    What is the goal here? To extend the average life expectancy of someone entering a nursing home from the average length of stay before death of 13.7 months to 14 months?

    This data is about 10 years old. Also reports that the median was five months. Fifty-three percent of nursing home residents in the study died within six months. Men died after a median stay of three months, while women died after a median stay of eight months.

    Great if that’s the goal. But don’t be looking at the rest of us to take your jab. Except, they can’t make much money saving the lives of people in nursing homes without charging $10k a shot, which would expose them as the greedy bastards they are.

    #89601
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Thank you again, teri.

    Although I read the following info on the White House website a month ago and was aware of it, this is mind boggling. One has to wonder how anyone can state this while keeping a straight face:

    “Q11: How does this Guidance apply to covered contractor employees who are authorized under the covered contract to perform work remotely from their residence?

    A: An individual working on a covered contract from their residence is a covered contractor employee, and must comply with the vaccination requirement for covered contractor employees, even if the employee never works at either a covered contractor workplace or Federal workplace during the performance of the contract. […]

    #89602
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @absolute: “What is the goal here? To extend the average life expectancy of someone entering a nursing home from the average length of stay before death of 13.7 months to 14 months?”

    Um, I think you estimated in the wrong direction on that life expectancy time period.

    #89603
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Here is the full correction posted at the bottom of the NYT article:

    Correction: Oct. 7, 2021

    An earlier version of this article incorrectly described actions taken by regulators in Sweden and Denmark. They have halted use of the Moderna vaccine in children; they have not begun offering single doses. The article also misstated the number of Covid hospitalizations in U.S. children. It is more than 63,000 from August 2020 to October 2021, not 900,000 since the beginning of the pandemic. In addition, the article misstated the timing of an F.D.A. meeting on authorization of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for children. It is later this month, not next week.

    Apoorva Mandavilli is a reporter focusing on science and global health. She is the 2019 winner of the Victor Cohn Prize for Excellence in Medical Science Reporting.

    A New Vaccine Strategy for Children: Just One Dose, for Now

    #89604
    chooch
    Participant

    teri, thanks for digging deep into this. Your efforts are appreciated. But here is the thing, I work for publicly traded company. Yes, we do have packages of work that are tied to programs that are funded by the government. I am obviously not a federal employee or a contracted employee of the government. If I am interpreting this correctly, I simply work for a soulless corporation that is afraid of losing current government programs or jeopardizing future program wins. Am I missing something in the fine print? Not sure.

    #89605
    zerosum
    Participant

    Uphill battle

    TAE is part of the underground info railroad
    Nobody reads the truth
    There’s nothing but press statements.
    He lied and he knew it.

    Covid-19 Vaccine Negative Effectiveness As Low As Minus 86% (TE)

    minions enforcers, and motivators, like to play games with the math, which can tell any story they want it to.

    You’ve been played

    What is happening behind the curtain

    1. Depopulation of the poor, the black and brown people, and the seniors.
    2. Prevent birth control\abortions of the white in an attempt to keep them from becoming a minority in the new lalaland
    3. Create/control supply line shortages and delays
    4. Create/control energy shortfall
    5. Ignore what is happening outside of the “control area”

    6. Survivors will have herd immunity

    #89606
    chooch
    Participant

    Also, I can see where they might argue an onerous burden. For instance, if they wanted me to participate in a meeting or program that involved a branch of the government and I didn’t have the proper papers. Which is really the end game.

    #89607
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    chooch: “I am looking for the estimation of the number of mRNA instructions (spikes) in a jab.”

    A detailed article (linked below), about the “source code” of the mRNA vaccine, has the following information.


    The image above shows the first 500 characters of the Pfizer mRNA sequence. There are 4,284 of these characters in each lipid-coated unit of mRNA.

    “…a single 30 microgram vaccine dose… consists of around 13,000 billion repetitions of the same 4284 characters.”

    This means there are around 13,000 billion (or 13 trillion) lipid-coated mRNA units in one dose. However, each of these 13 trillion mRNA units results in the repeated production of many spike proteins (not just one spike protein per mRNA).
    (How many is “many”? I don’t know, and I can’t find the article I’ve seen which puts a number on it.)

    mRNA can be reused many times” in the body until it gets too degraded. The end of the mRNA sequence has a lot of AAA characters added to slow down this degrading.

    The AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA end of it all

    The very end of mRNA is polyadenylated. This is a fancy way of saying it ends on a lot of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Even mRNA has had enough of 2020 it appears.

    mRNA can be reused many times, but as this happens, it also loses some of the A’s at the end. Once the A’s run out, the mRNA is no longer functional and gets discarded. In this way, the ‘poly-A’ tail is protection from degradation.

    Studies have been done to find out what the optimal number of A’s at the end is for mRNA vaccines. I read in the open literature that this peaked at 120 or so.

    The BNT162b2 vaccine ends with:

    ****** ****
    UAGCAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAAGCAUAU GACUAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA
    AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAA

    This is 30 A’s, then a “10 nucleotide linker” (GCAUAUGACU), followed by another 70 A’s.

    Reverse Engineering the source code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine
    https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/

    #89608
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    If one dose of the Pfizer vaxx has 13 trillion mRNA units, with each of these mRNA being able to produce “many” spike proteins, then the resulting number of spike proteins produced in the body could outnumber the 30 trillion total number of cells in the human body.

    How Many Cells Are in the Human Body? Fast Facts
    Scientists have come a long way in estimating the number of cells in the average human body. Most recent estimates put the number of cells at around 30 trillion.

    https://www.healthline.com/health/number-of-cells-in-body

    #89609
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Holy cow, Doc Robinson, that is mind blowing. And then the thought … isn’t Moderna a higher dose of mRNAs? I think it is …

    #89610
    chooch
    Participant

    Great, thanks Doc, I am working on how many spike proteins can be manufactured in the event ‘let’s say’ a freshly minted immature dendritic cell links up with an LNP in the bloodstream. Given that there is 10 million ribosomes now available to a single mRNA strand, (as you point out) a shed load of spike can be produced by just one cell. This should get interesting.

    #89611
    teri
    Participant

    @ chooch,

    Ah, I thought you were a federal contractor because you quoted an article about Biden’s EO for federal workers/contractors and said that this was what your company was basing their vaccine mandates on.

    The Biden Task Force EO about federal contractors includes a whole slew of companies that only remotely touch the federal gov’t. Even companies that are sub-contracted to federal contractors are included in this EO. If you are required to visit federal property on a routine basis as part of your job it includes you. If you only rarely have to visit federal property as part of your job, you will be asked to show vaccine papers, a negative Covid test within the last 3 days, and/or have to do the full masking/distancing thing each time you visit. So this EO may affect you or the company you work for in some fashion.

    Here is the part in the Task Force guidelines about visitors, people coming to federal property for meetings and events (this would cover someone who only infrequently needs to be there for work purposes, but isn’t a federal contractor) :
    *************
    […] Visitors to Federal buildings who are not fully vaccinated or who decline to provide information about their vaccination status must provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test from no later than the previous 3 days prior to entry to a Federal building. See the section below on Meetings, Events, and Conferences for how visitor requirements apply to in-person participants in meetings, events, and conferences hosted by agencies.
    These requirements related to the provision of information about vaccination and provision of proof of a recent negative COVID-19 test do not apply to members of the public entering a Federal building or Federal land to obtain a public service or benefit. If they are not fully vaccinated, these visitors must comply with all relevant CDC guidance, including wearing a mask and physically distancing from other people. […]

    https://www.saferfederalworkforce.gov/downloads/updates%20to%20model%20safety%20principles%209.13.21.pdf
    *************

    If you are in no way connected to the federal workforce at all, then the mandate that WOULD potentially affect you is the one that OSHA is coming up with – and that one doesn’t actually exist yet. (Even so, that one will not include companies with less than 100 employees).

    Below are two articles that do a pretty good job of explaining the various mandates that have been put in place or (in the case of OSHA) are in development. You’ll find that everyone has questions about the whole mess, who it affects, and how companies are supposed to deal with the resulting chaos.

    As to why a private company might go ahead and require vaccines before they have to – well, that is the question, isn’t it?

    https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/pages/employers-confused-about-covid-19-vaccine-rules.aspx

    Unanswered vaccine mandate questions remain for contractors after FAR Council rule

    #89612
    teri
    Participant
    #89613
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    upstateNYer: “isn’t Moderna a higher dose of mRNAs?”

    Yes, as I recall each dose of the Moderna has 100 micrograms of mRNA, more than 3 times what’s in a Pfizer dose (30 micrograms). This could be related to why the Scandinavian countries are backing away from Moderna.

    #89614
    chooch
    Participant

    Doc,

    From my notes (Dr. Mobeen Syed)

    1273 amino acids are needed to assemble a spike

    One cellular spike factory can produce 6 amino acids per minute

    One spike is produced every 4 minutes

    Upper limit of 150 million spike proteins for 10 million ribosomes

    Life of spike factory from minutes to days, nobody knows.

    Japanese bio distribution study gives an idea of how many of these factories might be circulating in our blood stream as a function of time.

    Only a fraction of those spikes get expressed on the surface. So do they explode as the factory cell breaks down, getting carried anywhere and everywhere the blood travels painting a cell for eventual T-cell attack?

    If anybody wants to run with this, please do. Other priorities are needing my attention and it will be a bit before I can focus on this.

    #89615
    chooch
    Participant

    teri, That was their statement to us. It appears our company’s seniors are playing loose, so I will call them out on that as part of the exemption I submit. I just want to be sure I am on firm ground as they likely to pick off the low hanging fruit if they are planning to be selective. Sorry, I wasn’t being clear. Thanks

    #89616
    teri
    Participant

    “Data released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showed that between Dec. 14, 2020 and Sept. 24, 2021, a total of 752,803 adverse events following COVID vaccines were reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The data included a total of 15,937 reports of deaths — an increase of 551 over the previous week.
    “There were 105,758 reports of serious injuries, including deaths, during the same time period — up 6,348 compared with the previous week.
    “Excluding “foreign reports” filed in VAERS, 581,851 adverse events, including 7,215 deaths and 45,952 serious injuries, were reported in the U.S. between Dec. 14, 2020 and Sept. 24, 2021.”

    As Reports of Deaths After COVID Vaccines Near 16,000, CDC Urges Pregnant Women to Get the Vaccine


    ***************

    “As President Joe Biden signed a law funding the treatment of 200-plus US officials who claim to have been affected by so-called Havana Syndrome, German police said they were looking into more possible cases.[…]

    “Meanwhile in Washington, Biden signed into law the Helping American Victims Afflicted by Neurological Attacks (HAVANA) Act, passed unanimously by Congress last month, providing money for the treatment of more than 200 government employees who claim to have been affected by the mystery syndrome.[…]

    ” ‘Civil servants, intelligence officers, diplomats, and military personnel all around the world have been affected by anomalous health incidents,’ Biden said in a statement. ‘Some are struggling with debilitating brain injuries that have curtailed their careers of service to our nation. Addressing these incidents has been a top priority for my administration.’ […]

    “Last month, however, the State Department released a redacted version of the classified 2018 report by JASON, a scientific advisory group, that ruled out microwave or ultrasound energy, saying that the power requirements were prohibitive and pointing out that electronics were not affected. 

    “The JASON report said that a third of the original reports were ‘most likely’ caused by the noise made by a specific species of cricket – a conclusion a US Berkeley scientist reached independently in early 2019 – while others may have been of psychological origin.”

    https://www.rt.com/usa/537029-biden-havana-syndrome-law/
    *************

    So-o-o-o, we have a whole new freakin’ law to financially help out the coupla hundred civil servant whackaloons who think the insect noises they hear are some kind of “directed energy” attacks (and naturally we have to call this the Havana law, because you know, Cuba and shit), but the hundreds of thousands who are suffering adverse effects up to and including death from vaccines – we get crickets. (Har, har, crickets, get it?)

    #89617
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    teri’s on a bit of a tear lately. Get it? 😉

    #89618
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Now they “need” people to die so demand is squelched, preventing hyperinflation. Hence, everyone “needs” to be vaccinated using a “vaccine” that doesn’t work.

    The Fear Pandemic and the Crisis of Capitalism

    #89619
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Well done Dr. D.

    Appreciate the ultimate reminder: “THE POWER IS IN THE PEOPLE.” Realizing/actualizing this key IDEA is at the HEART of our reclamation. It starts at the individual level and grows from there. This IDEA is the essential spark.

    Would like to circle back on the Left (DNC)/Right (Cheeto), Red/Blue references. My feeling is that these labels/identities are holding for only the most hard-core, deeply imbedded individuals – who will defend these IDEAS to the end; the philosophy (of the DNC) and the cult (of Trumpers) are the ultimate binders/blinders.

    Let’s giv’m credit: Biden is doing more to illuminate the truth of many matters, his blunt nagging and shaming is a pathetic reminder of how very empty everything really is. The “philosophy” is not holding because it can’t. This is forcing all to see the failures with new insight – and is providing opportunity to wake the Left out of the narrative. I see this disturbing reality-check “reveal” happening (quietly) across my circles of family and friends, in my small town, and with business associates. This is a good thing!

    When we get down to it, the philosophy/DNC and cult/Cheeto are only placeholders, they are NOT the solution. How can they be when they are the strategic manipulations of the TPTB manipulators? See how these “ideas” bind us to false solutions. Nicely done don’t you think?

    Placeholders are not the core IDEA – which is always UNIVERSAL, which is always pure TRUTH. Resonating BEYOND labels. The spark of all sparks. THE POWER IS IN THE PEOPLE.

    Choose. Choose wisely. LOVE to All.

    #89620
    chooch
    Participant

    Susmarie108,

    Nice, they are unaware of the new dawn arising.

    But hey, “Biden is a wanker and wears a wanker’s hat”. It’s going to be awhile before I purge that one from my memory. Damn you Polder (with fist in the air)

    #89622
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    From the Van Den Bossche piece:

    Considering that vaccinees shed and transmit as much virus as unvaccinated people, how could one even postulate that unvaccinated people are susceptible to severe disease whereas vaccinees are still largely protected from severe disease? Frankly speaking, this doesn’t make any sense at all.

    This actually does make sense to me. For a vaccinated person, if they get Covid (while the vaccine still works and with the right variant) it can multiply in their respiratory lining but once it crosses into the blood stream the spike protein antibodies would keep it from doing major damage. So they would have a sizable viral load and be able to infect others but wouldn’t suffer the worst effects themselves. Maybe one of our resident doctors can comment on whether this is true or if there is a problem with this analysis.
    And to be clear, it still appears to me that the vaccine causes immediate and long term harm and that staying healthy plus vitamin D, zinc, etc. are the best way to go for most of us unless we get a more traditional and well tested vaccine which would be years away.

    #89623
    chooch
    Participant

    DarkMatter,

    Nearly everyone was not at risk of a serious inflection in the first place. For those that were, most or them would have been spared hospitalization and death with access to very affordable therapeutics. The injections are worthless and damage the immune system.

    #89624
    Germ
    Participant

    “Former Bachelor star Monique Morley is hospitalised with extremely rare heart complication ‘as a side effect of her first Pfizer jab’ ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10074747/Bachelor-star-Monique-Morley-hospitalised-following-rare-vaccine-effects.html

    #89625
    Germ
    Participant

    Ding. Ding. Ding!

    “However, in the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34384810/

    And guess what – the Delta variant is now predominant, and the boosters are based on the original Wuhan strian soike sequence.
    The vaxxed are fucked!

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