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    Russell Lee Hamburger stand in Harlingen, Texas Feb 1939 On this relatively quiet Sunday, why not get delve into a topic that’s as timely as it is con
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    #15300
    John Day
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    I will present a hypothesis that our natural masters, the ruling/royal class, is a separate breed, with distinct and secret characteristics, which are identifiable, but not easily so.

    Agriculture began in the Mideast, Tigris-Euphrates valley about 7500 years ago. Before that, we were hunters and gatherers, and caught some fish, too.
    Before agriculture, everybody had to hunt and gather, though we can envision a few tool makers, or physician types in a group.
    Groups were fewer than 100-200, where group connections break down and lead to factionalism. We didn’t need much structure, and we didn’t need rulers, and those things were unaffordable, anyway.
    Some of the waves of human movement are described here, as they relate to Europeans, and Asians.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29213892

    Once agriculture, with surplus grain to store for several years, increased the size of our groups, and our stable connection to specific places (farms with water-sources), we needed more complex social organizations, to prevent a lot of small blood feuds from breaking us apart. Alcohol as a storage form of food probably contributed to the fights, killings and taking sides.
    In stable feudal societies, a minimum of 4 castes is needed: Farmers, Specialists of all types, from doctor and toolmaker, to trader, musician, weaver, thatcher, etc.
    Soldiers become necessary as one group discovers them, raids another group successfully, and all other groups adopt martial structures in defense.
    Warlords become necessary, as the capacity and proclivity to kill have to be governed by giving the right to kill to only one man. Nobody else gets to kill group members. (It reminds me of the “wisdom of Solomon”, as portrayed in the tale of the two women who both claimed a baby as their own. He ordered the baby cut in half, and half given to each of them. This had to be a believable response from King Solomon. It was his unquestioned prerogative.)

    The minimal 4 social groupings are what existed in Feudal Japan:
    https://shogun2.heavengames.com/articles/history/the-caste-system-of-feudal-japan/
    The Japanese of Samurai families carefully trace their lineage. Samurai Japanese are “a different breed”, and they look different from the peasants, and they have different drives and personalities. They specifically married for prowess in killing and ruling. They had to be cold, effective, strong, swift and smart. They had to be disciplined and rigid in the battle, not prone to break ranks, for certain death lay there.
    We know that half the men in Asia have Genghis Khan’s Y chromosome, which was a fairly recent mutation when Genghis got it, maybe a couple of generations old. It’s pretty prevalent outside of Asia, as well.
    We know that the ruling families of Europe carefully intermarried, but ruthlessly killed peasants and soldiers ruled/owned by those family members.
    There continues to be a lot of attention paid to these blood lines. There were only a very few women who Price Charles could marry to produce royal heirs. Princess Diana was the most obvious, and he had to await her coming of age. She produced heirs. She became embarrassing. She died in a car accident.

    Not all lines of power have been carried down through marriage. The Catholic Popes may have often had children, but not openly. They were absolutely as ruthless and instrumental in wielding war powers and carrying out genocides as any king, and in many cases, they ruled the kings and kingdoms, though they had to come to this apogee of power.
    We know that the Cathars, who self-referenced as “good people”, were a Christian sect, who did not recognize the power of the Catholic Pope, but said that he was head of a church that served the evil god, basically “Satan”.
    Here is a description of Cathar beliefs:
    https://www.cathar.info/1201_beliefs.htm
    Pope Innocent had the genocide of the Cathars carried out.
    “Kill them all, The Lord will recognize his own”, originated in that conflict against the vegetarian, pacifist Cathars, who were loved in their communities, and not turned-over by their neighbors. Their neighbors also died by the sword.

    We can see how the line of kings has been carried, and carefully selected for, and the ranks of “nobles”, fed into it, as a level of selection, but how has the line of Popes been selected?
    How do other elites bond together in ways to be more powerful than hereditary kings and nobles?
    What characteristics allow them to recognize each other, and how can they possibly keep from breaking ranks in battle, when they are not even in the same country? What can reliably bind them together in relentless, concerted action?

    In “The Prince”, Machiavelli looks at effective traits in a ruler, and observes that fear is more effective in assuring allegiance, than is love or admiration.
    Effective rulers quickly and openly eliminate anyone who doesn’t comply, or is even suspected of having different thoughts. Stalin was like that.
    Vlad the Impaler was a defender of the (Catholic) Christian faith, against the Ottoman Turks, and also delighted in the cruelest acts of torture, forcing mothers to cook and eat their children, husbands to eat their wife’s breasts, then torturing all to death. The number of impalements under his order may have been 100,000, and he decisively turned back or slaughtered massive Ottoman forces on multiple occasions. Many towns and cities were burned with all inhabitants. Acres and acres of impaled dead were his signature. He was a good Catholic of his era. (Prince Charles is his descendant.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

    I have not answered the questions I posed about how elites may recognize and rely upon other elites when far away.
    We can recognize how Vlad was set-apart in his effectiveness by his absolute thrill in killing, killing, killing.
    He was extremely effective in devising ways to kill massive numbers of people, cavalry or families.
    He used these horrors to make himself more effective against those who he horrified, much as the Texas Rangers did later, leaving crucified Mexicans along trails, or the Romans did previously, the same way.
    His love for, and talent at killing massive numbers of people, without tire, marks Vlad the Impaler as an absolute elite monarch, though he did profess loyalty to the Hungarian king and the Pope, which enabled him to hold and regain his desired position.
    He was betrayed by the Hungarian king, who had spent the money himself, which he had raised to fund Vlad’s wars, then blamed the loss on Vlad, who he imprisoned for awhile. This happened when Vlad was down-on-his-luck after some well funded sustained campaigns by forces of the Ottoman Sultan.

    So we can see what the talents of hereditary kings may be, and we see that they are not the masters of Popes, though Henry the 8th was far enough away to start his own church, and was seemingly cut from the same cloth.
    What breaks down here is the question of how these very cruel and selfish people might effectively work together at a great distance, and over time, without breaking ranks.
    Truly, they are much stronger if they do not break ranks, and this is an ancient conundrum for power elites.
    We see that royalty held certain customs, not killing other royalty, though they did very often betray each others’ interests, as in the case of the German Kaiser and his cousin the Russian Tsar, the “Willy-Nicky correspondence”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Willy%E2%80%93Nicky_Correspondence

    This brings us to the topic of Secret-Societies, which are truly ancient, and about which we have all heard rumors of the most disturbing sorts. The members of powerful secret societies seem to have held ranks, and therefore held power, effectively for at least hundreds of years, and were feared by the founding fathers, though some also held memberships in these elites, such as Freemasonry, which has many levels of membership.

    Modern politicians need not be trusted much by their financial masters if the masters hold information to end the political career of the politician. Assassination is always a back-up plan, but not generally necessary. Bill Clinton must have crossed somebody for the Monica Lewinsky scandal to come to fore, but he must have mended that fence, too. There was worse that could have come out, like his use of the Arkansas National Guard in the Nicaraguan drugs for arms for hostages deal, though he coordinated that with George HW Bush, so it’s not really fair-game. (Scroll to “Mena, Arkansas”)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking

    To truly trust the other member of the evil-elites, does there need to be “honor among thieves”?
    Not if the membership in the secret society has severe enough tests, the passing of which mark a man (still mostly men) as somebody who is vile and revolting, as was Vlad the Impaler, or the Marquis de Sade.

    There is a membership test to pass, and it does not involve answering questions.
    Potential members enter the test facility secretly, not knowing what the test is, but knowing that they are driven to be members at the top echelons, having moved up through lower ranks, desiring the power and prerogative of the elites.

    It is very difficult for me to tell you the test, which is revealed below in a video interview with a Dutch woman, who was ritually raped and tortured as a child, mostly by adult men, including her father, uncle, grandfather, the family doctor and the town Vicar. She and her sister grew up in a family which practiced this, and were members of a community of practitioners of these ritual acts, including very high elites, one of whom is named in a setting worse than I have yet described. I will get to that later.
    In the test, this girl was stripped naked and manacled upon a table, while a metal speculum was put in her vagina by the doctor. She was stimulated to orgasm, as she had been many times before, always linked to torture and humiliation.
    The test subjects stood naked in this castle in the forest, watching this.
    One did not get an erection, and a trap door opened beneath him, dropping him into a deep pit, where he died.
    The second part of the test involved the other men penetrating his dead body rectally, necrophilia, also requiring an erection.
    The candidate who could not perform at this level was not killed.
    He got to have sex with the girl, but a special knife has been placed in her vagina, and it cut and disfigured his penis when he did so.
    This is the “test for freemasons”, which she most painfully describes, yet it is not the worst that Toos Nijenhuis has to tell.
    Her interview is here, and you can scroll to it, and see what she goes through to give this testimony.
    The written text (not her interview) about occult practices of the Jesuits and every Pope for the past 250 years includes secret Vatican documents, and testimony from more survivors. Both Pope Francis, and former (Nazi) Pope, Joseph Ratzinger are directly implicated in the most ghastly horrors by eyewitness-victims.
    https://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/eyewitnesses-testify-pope-francis-raped-and-killed-children-sealed-vatican-documents-expose-their-satanic-rituals-video/
    The International Tribunal Into Crimes of Church and State website is here https://itcs.org
    There are lots of entries with lots of testimony and there are lots of human remains, especially of children.
    To investigate a few of these stories:
    I did look into “Mass grave, Taum” to see about the 800 bodies of dead children hidden on the grounds of a Catholic Church home (prison) for unwed mothers and their children in Taum, Ireland, a town we rode through in 2005 on our family bike tour. The investigation of the mass grave is out there, but the newspapers are not looking this one step deeper.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/13/mother-behind-galway-childrens-mass-grave-story
    The Daily Kos posted the story of the 28 mass graves of Native American children in Canada, many at the Indian schools they were forced to attend. It is being treated as an act of genocide, and is not much noticed in major media after that, except by the ITCCS, which is very small and poor.
    https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/04/15/496538/-28-Mass-graves-of-Indian-Children-in-Canada

    When one of these elites doesn’t “program” a long-term child victim adequately, nor murder the victim, and the victim goes public, the ring-member may be killed by other ring members. There is circumstantial evidence that this is how Nicole Kidman’s father, Dr Antony Kidman, a wealthy Australian Clinical Psychologist, just died in Singapore.. He had left Australia and his 43 year career, when his living victim, Fiona Barnet, made public accusations, and a criminal investigation was initiated. He died on “White Balloon Day”, an Australian day of remembrance for childhood victims of sexual assault.
    The horrors described by this long term victim, especially what she saw done to other children, mirror those in the other reports.
    https://worldtruth.tv/nicole-kidmans-father-dies-amid-pedophile-child-murder-ring-allegations/
    Here is how the UK media treated the story.
    Judge the many pictures of the deceased for yourself.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2753136/Nicole-Kidman-s-father-killed-accident-Singapore.html

    I have been exhausted and deeply troubled yesterday and today, seeking how I might best present this horrific information about our earthly masters.
    Tom, Colleen, and Cat have provided the kernel of this news, and it has resonated with what has come to my knowledge since the 1970s in various ways. I specifically recall a profoundly disturbed young woman with multiple personalities, who I admitted to Big Spring State Hospital one weekend in 1988 or 1989, and got to see more of subsequently, as I worked further weekends as a weekend-doctor at that facility. Multiple personalities are sometimes a result, and sometimes a goal of ritual abuse of children.

    My current view of the situation in our world, and the actions of elites, slaughtering millions of humans again and again and again, are cast in a different light, when I see behavior which seems like a perverted quirk, may actually be a core feature of power elites, which enables them to treat other humans as a herd of animals, and can actually give them intense pleasure in culling the herd.
    The function of reducing human numbers has repeatedly been important since we became agriculturalists. We have grown large populations in good times, and needing a solution for the starving multitudes in years of sustained famine.
    We see that before the collapse of Mayan civilization, the cities were starving, and the rulers made war on other cities, capturing the people to cut their hearts out in sacrifice to the Sun God, to bring better harvests and rain.
    It was far removed from Europe, and a completely separately evolved agricultural society, but the herd-culling behavior of the ruling elites is chillingly similar.
    The games of death which entertained them are like the games in Rome.

    There is not a way to identify and kill all the people who bear these traits, is there?
    Only a bearer of those traits could excel at such a task, and would need helpers…
    What we see is that there are competing groups of elites, with similar traits.
    Vlad the Impaler fought for Christendom against the armies of the Moslem Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.

    If we look at connected groups of power elites, we see that the West includes countries bound by dollar-based economics and the American military/NATO/Israel. Tied in with this cabal are the oil producing monarchies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and so on.
    China is a separate group of elites. The “Dragon Family” did not die out when the last emperor died. The “Dragon Family” is a going concern.
    Russia has oligarchs, as does Ukraine, but there is a disruption from the European royal linkages for the past 100 years. Russia is separate.
    Iran is separate, and has a different banking system, as well as an ancient culture.
    India, the richest country in the world 300 years ago, is in play, playing now with the American empire, and recently playing with the USSR, even starting to play with ancient rival, China.
    Other regions, such as South America are vassals, but would certainly change associations, if it could be painless.

    We are at a historical juncture with a vastly bigger human population than ever before, and the oil that fed us through mechanized agriculture is suddenly expensive.
    Monsanto owns the seeds and is destroying all other options as fast as possible. Somebody owns the water, and it is running out. Cargill owns the meat. Tyson owns the chickens.
    We see the wars being waged for control of oil, and gas, and economic control.
    Each of these corporations holds some aspect of what each of us requires to survive each day. They all hold powers of life and death over us.
    Each of them will act in selfish interest, every time.
    Corporate entities were designed to perform the functions of ruling elites, with as much of the same value system as can be openly revealed, and with no person standing accountable for the actions they take.
    They are patterned on the British East India Company, which gutted India, and scared the American colonists into revolution.

    The actions I can take myself are few and simple.
    I need to become less and less dependent upon massive corporations to feed me and those close to me, through the coming times.
    I’m growing a garden, learning to grow food, and what food I can grow and how much (little), and what that means we will still need. It’s a path that will take time.
    I bike commute, and I work in my garden, and that’s good for my body, but I definitely experience my (very modest) limitations.
    I still rely on Empire to enable my work as a doctor to the not-wealthy, which is a quirk of the current imperial workings.
    I remain embedded, as do my wife and children, in all the aspects of financialized economy: insurance, higher education, water, gas, electricity, taxes to fund wars, etc.
    I pray for enlightened awakening of all humans.
    Jesus said to “Love your enemies”, and he practiced that as he was horribly tortured to death, by people who probably relished the experience, and certainly taunted him.
    Now, knowing what I know, I am working on the opposite of selfishness and sadism.
    I want to be as good as the Cathars were.
    I now find my path through Buddhist practice, but I don’t think the specifics are nearly as important as the proper intention, and the rightness of the match between path and person.
    Finding a group of like minded seekers, who practice together, is a great help.
    Taking a step or two is a start, and then other stepping stones become visible.

    #15301
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ John Day

    Powerful read. Thanks for the effort. Little you wrote was news for me. I wrote my first essay on the violence of America’s beginnings at the age of 15 (circa 1959 or 60) and was harshly received for my efforts. It wasn’t an assignment, but my response to history.
    My battle now is to not hate my fellow humans and keep the Buddha’s teachings close at hand.
    IME, most people haven’t looked deeply into their own nature or even human nature in general. My axiom is: Humans cannot do anything outside of their nature, for everything they do is within their nature. There is no un-natural act.
    Thanks again for that treatise…

    #15303
    Raleigh
    Participant

    John Day – they say that the way you view the world signifies who you are at your core. I’ve heard this over and over: see the world in a kind light, and you will be kind; see it in a dark light, and you will be dark. After I beat myself up for being too pessimistic sometimes, I reflect on the people I know who are light at heart, who see the world as a kind place, and I always come to the conclusion that the people I know like this are naive and ignorant, that they choose not to see, and therefore nothing ever gets remedied. The elite depend on this ignorance.

    I agree with V. Arnold that “humans cannot do anything outside of their nature, for everything they do is within their nature.” The only thing I wonder about is how that “nature” came about. Were they born this way, or was it through nurture? I’ve thought about this a lot, and I believe that in most cases it is learned behavior (nurture). People do what works, what got them through childhood, what allowed them to survive. Once your particular belief system is set up, it’s very hard to change.

    We can only ever control ourselves, but most people aren’t even conscious of who their “self” is. Therein lies the problem. Most people are walking around on automatic pilot.

    Good writing, John Day.

    #15304
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Raleigh
    “The only thing I wonder about is how that “nature” came about. Were they born this way, or was it through nurture? I’ve thought about this a lot, and I believe that in most cases it is learned behavior (nurture).”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Rather, I think it is primordial. The nature of all things is that. I do not know what place nurture holds; that it’s so highly touted by MSM makes me very suspicious and doubtful.
    The tribalism, secret societies, religions (Buddha’s teachings are not religion, but rather lessons in our nature, our true nature), are all primordial.
    It is said if we truly know ourselves (truly), we will know the world. IME (limited) that is true.
    We have made decisions from early on as individuals and, IMO, do not know, are not aware of those decisions. Cannot identify when or where those decisions were made.
    Dr. Day speaks of vast belief systems, again not understood by most. The power of belief is not understood either in the world or in our selves. Belief is very dangerous and is best discarded, IMO…

    #15305
    John Day
    Participant

    @ Raleigh and V. Arnold,
    Thank you for understanding my intention in writing this essay.
    I continue to struggle with my compassion practice today, since it is not some abstraction of cruelty which faces me.
    Those consumed with this insatiable cruel hunger are very hard for me to even envision.
    Certainly, this leads to vast torment for them.
    I hope that I have been respectful and not done harm in this writing.
    It has certainly come from an anguished heart.

    #15318
    Raleigh
    Participant

    V. Arnold – “Belief is very dangerous and is best discarded.” Fine, but if you don’t know you even have certain beliefs, how are you supposed to discard them? That’s the difficult part. I had certain beliefs (as we all do), which were very detrimental to my life, in retrospect, but I didn’t know I had them. You see it all over: the worker who can’t quite believe he got fired, because he can’t conceive that he’s deficient in any way, or the American Idol wanna-be-singers who are shocked when told they are off-key, or the beautiful girl who believes she is ugly. Belief systems. Where do we get them? They’re not all innate. A lot of these beliefs do actually come from nurturing, from your environment.

    But – but – for the truly evil, the people who lack compassion/empathy, the jury is still out. Would Ted Bundy have turned out differently had he continued to live with his mother, had she not left him to start a new family? What did that do to the child? Or was he always a bad seed, no matter who raised him? If he was an intelligent child (which he was), not easily duped by her excuses about leaving, what happened inside his mind? It might have played a large part in what he ended up doing.

    I know you are talking about vast numbers of people committing group atrocities, not individual people. I watched part of a program the other day where a young teacher (who was subsequently fired) took a classroom of high school students into the world of fascism for (I believe) one week. By the end of the week, all of the students were completely indoctrinated! He did this experiment (which the students did not know about) just to show them how quickly people could be indoctrinated. I didn’t see it all, but at the end the students were all shocked at how much their thinking was turned.

    Some people are more aggressive, some more passive, I agree. Some is inherent to them, some is nurtured by family and environment. That’s why I always say that if you want to find out what your belief system is made up of, you must reflect on your life. This usually causes a great deal of pain and struggle (if your belief system has been faulty), which is necessary to finally see who you are, with all of your strengths and weaknesses.

    Think about it and let me know what you think. Thanks.

    #15319
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ John Day
    I hope that I have been respectful and not done harm in this writing.
    It has certainly come from an anguished heart.
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    And my anguished heart heard you loud and clear.
    No harm, no foul. Well and truly spoke…

    #15320
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Raleigh
    I know you are talking about vast numbers of people committing group atrocities, not individual people.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Actually, I am speaking of the individual. “Possibilities” are only realized by the individual.
    One must put one’s own house in order before all else.
    Past that I don’t know what else to say. Cheers.

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