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    Pablo Picasso Seated woman 1903   • Long-Term Dangers of Experimental mRNA Shots (Joseph Mercola) • ‘Sweeping,’ ‘Unprecedented’ Vaccine Mandates
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 11 2021]

    #86881

    Paul Thacker : “Sooo, can we ask yet why over 200 million Americans have been vaxxed and daily cases right now are 300% higher than they were a year ago when there were ZERO people vaccinated or naw?”

    #86883
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    upstateNYer
    Dr Peter McCullough interview posted 9/10 on Mercola site. Will be taken down within the next 36 hours. I’m listening now – it’s informative, as McCullough always is.

    Thanks for that vid from yesterday; Dr. McCullgh was excellent and succint…as usual…

    #86884
    Germ
    Participant

    Mornin’ all!

    Must listen:

    “Anna De Buisseret: All The Law Is On Our Side… There Will Be A Second Nuremburg Tria” (full & uncensored)

    https://odysee.com/@ResistanceGB:f/Anna-De-Buisseret-Nuremburg-Trial:7

    #86885
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Late post last Debt Rattle, (with small editing).

    The President of the United States of that space between Mexico and Canada IS NOT QUALIFIED to prescribe medicine and should consider his position. Resignation is the least he should face. A military firing squad would be more appropriate. No apology for his inane stupidity should be accepted – ever. But first remove the occupant of the Vice Presidency, let Nancy have the job and get that feckless perfidious c^nt out of Congress.

    #86886
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Formerly T-Bear

    Indeed; keep it coming… 😉

    #86887
    Mr. House
    Participant

    ““The common denominator is fear. All power is based on fear. The Powers That Be love terror and they love pandemics because it allows them to force conformity on society that is not to the good.””

    https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/covid-points-to-911-perpetrators

    #86888
    Germ
    Participant

    I have to watch Fox now for medical news?
    Never thought I’d see the day!

    #86889
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “We will always err on the side of protecting the American people” …from themselves.

    Mommy knows best. Kind of makes you long for Joe’s hair-sniffing days doesn’t it?

    Well, it’s almost over. VPoet. The point was to get thick-headed numbskulls with heads like rocks to SEE things. And sadly for us, that doesn’t happen – they will deny EVERYTHING – until they lose their job, their children, etc etc. And so they have. So we’re at the cliff’s edge Americans like so much, and we don’t.

    Something is about to happen, because WE are in control. Nothing needs to be done. Do what you do, and ignore them so much you can’t tell if you’re complying or not. They’re broke, hollow. They are no more, they have ceased to be. They’ve joined the choir invisible. So budget day on Oct 1, with no petrodollar, Yellen says we’re defaulting, and they’ve just fired with their mandate 20M government contractors. Half the police. Most of the truckers. Half the Army. …So tell me, whatever he says, how does he think he’s going to ENFORCE jack-s—t? Here’s an answer: MAKE ME. I’m going to go have a picnic, because the trucks are going to stop, the factories are going to stop, the imports are going to stop, the manufacturing is going to stop, and the police are going to fade away for staffing and disappear.

    Locke and Hume, Calvin and Hobbes, they can’t do ANYTHING without us. These pin-headed PMC managers are worthless. Even a pencil is too heavy for them to lift, so let them list all their stoopid little things on their stoopid little spreadsheets, where they can sit and be unaccomplished as the chiefs don’t do any work: the Indians do. And we’re long at a 10:1 Chief to Indian ratio.

    But since there’s no carrot remaining anyway, how you gonna make me work? You pretend to pay us with a $1,500 UBI, and we pretend to work. “Pretend” here in that we do what you SAY, which are orders that have no logic whatsoever, stop all progress, and prevent all work, all production from happening. It’s only when we shirk and avoid your orders that anything gets accomplished already. Their answer to giving idiotic orders that prevent both accomplishment and profit, is to shout MORE orders that are twice as dumb and harass you for it. Okey-doke!

    So leaving that experience isn’t very hard, and it seems most Americans are doing it. No one’s coming in to work. No ones. Oh noes! I’ll be broke: hey dumba–, we’re broke now except we have to listen to you natter on and criticize us all day for your stupid, unworkable plans, while you sit and drink coffee in golf shirts and find new ways to stop us all day.

    What I’m saying is, we’re pretty inured to any hardship they might attempt at this point. Whatcha gonna do? I go home and rest and downshift to ramen? You get free cable and free healthcare ONLY IF YOU DON’T WORK. You get the boot in the teeth if you do. I can take a hint.

    They’re not long for the world at this point. Not at all. “Someone will do something stupid,” the dominoes will start to fall…perhaps first in Australia a whole department of policemen disappear and are later found in the sea. Who knows? Although you don’t need guns for that, a sharp stick and a piece of string will do, they (and we) claim guns have been confiscated there. You know: like they are confiscated and disappeared in Chicago, NY, and Balitmore.

    Why not France? Germany, who just showed they are the biggest money-launderers in Europe, authorized from the top? Why not Canada, who upscales from “tiny rocks”? To hockey pucks? Oh, they now got problems everywhere, FAR too many for the 1-6% of the population to tamp down. If they go to Florida, Indiana breaks out. If they fight Paris, Normandy points to their unfounded, unjust, Fascist action, and further escapes.

    Election fraud comes out, 9/9, they call a mandate to clog the news, even among us watchers and critics. Great! How are you going to keep that up? News is moving so fast and you’re so far behind it, you’ll have every Stalinist policy enacted by Tuesday and have woken up every American who’s about had it with no M4A, no legalized pot, no vaccine mandate, and every other basic, simple election promise.

    You’re going to cut the news cycle in Arizona, a state that uses the same voting machines as France, Belgium Brazil? Great, now people will go bowling and talk to each other, and social media will be shut off so you’re blind. In fact, they’re already blind. The people they most need to track and surveil are already on Gab, Telegram, and the Derp State AI is ALREADY are jumping at shadows, fabricating 1/6’s because they can’t tell what they think, what they do, what they say, what they plan, and have no hooks to “Message” them to “The Narrative”. And you think you’re going to win by blacking out the REST of the country, the coasts and some blue islands? And they’re not going to be pissed off you shut down their internet and can’t Tik-Tok no more? That you can’t even run a power grid competently? Ha.

    This is a complete no-win.

    I’d say “Hold the Line” but why bother? Hold the line against what? They’re broke. Powerless. They are shadows. They don’t exist. No one’s following them. No one cares. So just do whatever you do, whatever you feel like doing, and ignore them just like any other delusional mental patient. I don’t care what they say. They can’t make me. The worst catastrophe they’ve ever seen is if they tried. And I stopped working, took a little vacation for 6 months or a year here, and nothing got done. Suits me fine.

    And so has everybody else. Newsflash: you don’t issue national edicts if you’re in control of anything. They’re out of control of everything. And they’re now advertising their complete lack of control, and mental insanity, to the rest of the country who didn’t realize til now.

    Sounds good to me! Carry on. There’s nothing I could possibly do to add help this further or to move faster. Joe’s covered all the bases all by himself.

    “Australia Bans Ivermectin (CTH)”

    Yesssssss! Now THAT’S a profit center. I can get richer than Joe Kennedy in no time. And unlike Irish whiskey, help people too, and with almost perfect safety!

    Private industry provides faster, better service. Already I can get drugs, prescription, painkillers, in an hour on the street that would take me 6 months and $1,500 through a doctor if at all. But now I can get IVM too!

    #86890
    those darned kids
    Participant

    mohamed atta was the original patient zero!!!

    isis-k is funding gain of function as we speak!!!

    the k is for kovid!!!

    bioterror threat level fuchsia!!!

    #86891
    Germ
    Participant

    Resistance Radio – Guest: Alice Friedemann
    Alice Friedemann, the granddaughter of two scientists, is genetically predisposed to do extensive research and exhaustive reading. Much of this was accomplished as she read while walking 10 miles round-trip between home and office. She was a systems architect and engineer for over 25 years. She retired from Dilbert Land to devote more time to science writing on energy, ecology, climate change, whole grains, agriculture, infrastructure, pollution, and too many other topics to list (see her website http://www.energyskeptic.com). The past few years she has come to see that fossil-fueled western civilization will likely collapse from dozens of factors. Especially oil, the master resource that makes all others possible. Especially in transportation since heavy-duty trucks, locomotives, and ships depend on diesel fuel. Manufacturing is also completely dependent on the high heat fossil fuels can generate to make cement, steel, microchips, glass, ceramics, bricks and other essential products. Today we talk about her new book Life After Fossil Fuels.

    https://resistanceradioprn.podbean.com/e/resistance-radio-guest-alice-friedemann/

    #86892
    those darned kids
    Participant

    NEWS RELEASE: Today, Lockheed-Martin Death Systems is proudly announcing a partnership program with Pfizer Phonyceuticals to produce a new line of Heckfarter Vaccines, deliverable by drone, gas station attendant, or submarine.

    “Only with this new generation of BioTerror vaccines will we be able to stop the Freedom Haters of ISISISISIS-KKK* from hating our freedoms. We are proud to do our part to keep America, and those other places, safe from people who want to lock us in our houses, track our every move, and make us submit to illogical dictates.”

    #86893
    those darned kids
    Participant

    *Today, ISISISISIS Terror Systems is proudly announcing a partnership program with KKK Supreme Inc. to produce a new line of really scary stuff that will lock you in your houses, track your every move, and make you submit to illogical dictates.

    #86894
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Dr D: “You get free cable and free healthcare ONLY IF YOU DON’T WORK. You get the boot in the teeth if you do. I can take a hint.”

    Boom!!!! 😉

    #86895

    Dr. D, you are the most upbeat individual! Whenever I read your stuff, I think- why, yes- of course this is how it will go. How could it be otherwise. Thanks.

    #86896
    zerosum
    Participant

    Job opportunities

    Work from home

    Imports/exports are not illegal
    Using is not illegal
    Distribution is not illegal

    Supply lines are established and flourishing (opioids)

    Survivalists/capitalists see and exploit opportunities
    You could be the next Amazon
    Future in Black markets – Ivermectin

    #86897

    How many fully vaxxed breakthrough cases are being reported as vaccine deaths?

    #86898
    generic
    Participant

    The CDC report on vaccinated versus unvaccinated is not written for the layman, and I’m not sure I can interpret it correctly. I haven’t studied it carefully either. In my interpretation, the raw data seems to show that the case fatality rate for the unvaccinated is 1.077%, while the case fatality rate for the vaccinated is 1.330%. In other words, it appears to show that the vaccinations are the more dangerous. But these raw numbers are a misrepresentation of reality.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

    Then, they calculate an age-adjusted case fatality rate to come up with the factor of 11 between the two situations and favoring vaccination. This is a very complex calculation. I don’t trust anything the CDC says because they have repeatedly shown a lack of integrity. However, I think it definitely is appropriate to calculate an age-adjusted rate because older people are more likely to be vaccinated, die, etc.

    Epidemiology is a very demanding profession. Extracting useful conclusions from very complex data is quite difficult and sometimes impossible. For example, the CDC should also do some adjustment for level of wealth. Many of the unvaccinated are among the less wealthy because they quite rightly do not trust the government. The less wealthy are also less likely to use nutritional supplements like vitamins D3, C, and zinc. And again, they are more likely to seek medical help only after they are extremely sick.

    So, I reject the raw data for understanding vaccination risk, and I also reject the CDC calculation. I consider the risk data to be impossible for me to interpret. I do trust the fatality rate being in the realm of 1% though, because this is consistent with the bulk of the available statistics.

    #86899

    “There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide…”
    From 2011, “Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan

    Considering how TPTB are trying to stomp it out, I have a feeling that it threatens
    the entire pharmaceutical industry and how we look at disease.

    #86900
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    @upstate. @v.arnold
    Thanks for the McCullough video. I recommend that everyone drop whatever you are doing, invest an hour of your time, and really try to understand. Watch until the explanation is clear.

    #86901

    There was a guy from the Cato Institute on CSPAN yesterday, discussing the horrors 9/11 wrought in surveillance and corrupt law enforcement practices. He said he was a libertarian.
    A caller asked if he supported Gov. DeSantis’s stance on businesses with vaccine mandates. The Cato guy was energetic in his condemnation: the Governor cannot prohibit vaccine mandates by private businesses.
    It would have been nice for him to condemn Biden at that point, but he did not.

    What the Government can prohibit you from doing, the Government can force you to do (or try to.)

    #86902
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The Cato Institute are what you might call old-school rotarian capitalists.

    #86903

    Well, while we’re mourning the 9/11 deaths, how about we give a thought to the deaths due to banning IVM, vit. D, zinc, either totally or just “in word”?

    #86904
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Fauci: “what is the durability (of natural infection) compared to the vaccine.”

    Actually, the study out of Israel DOES address the first stage of durability, and shows that the strong natural immunity response has increased effectivity at 3 months over one month as compared to the vaccine.

    And other studies address longer intervals of natural immunity.

    ~~~~~~~~

    I read the recent GVB piece last night. Wow. I suspect that he is correct in his predictions. He sees the leaky Covid vaccine as catastrophic simply from the perspective of the pressure it puts on the virus to mutate — he isn’t even contemplating medical dangers from the vaccine itself to the recipient. He predicts that the outcome for the vaccinated who contract Covid will soon be much, much worse than when the unvaccinated catch Covid. I don’t like wishing I’ll things to happen, but if it is inevitable, I hope that he is correct and that we will see this by the end of the winter. As a parent, I need to keep my kids safe from potential harms — even when they are teens — and I fear as pressure ramps up to get vaccinated the only thing that will ultimately allow me to prevent it will be widespread illness in death in the vaccinated. To that end, the more that the unvaccinated get sick, have immunity, and refuse vaccination (maintaining a control group) the more stark the comparison will be. The mud will be the Covid survivors who subsequently get vaccinated and the vaccinated who survive Covid and also have natural immunity, before the variants completely evade the vaccine. GVB doesn’t address either of those groups…it doesn’t seem that anyone understands fully the dynamics in those two groups.

    To comment on what I just wrote…
    Biden: “ “We will always err on the side of protecting the American people””
    Me: “ I need to keep my kids safe from potential harms”

    I’m going to qualify my statement, because it isn’t universal. As a parent of teens I need to protect my kids from harms that are outside of their current ability to protect themselves. In some areas of their life they are quite mature, and it is their responsibility to protect themselves. I don’t hold their hands when we cross the street any more — in fact, I’m not anywhere nearby. When I comes to the intricacies of the science of Covid, the vaccines, immunity and the perfidy of governments…they don’t have the maturity and experience to grasp the intricacies of the situation, so this is an area where I act to protect. It would be unhealthy parenting to supervise my teens crossing the road…this is what the Biden Admin doesn’t understand.

    Same goes for federal government…it is their job to protect us from military invasions, to have experts who are responsible to the people (not big Pharma) who can adequately advise us on public health. But it’s our responsibility to understand the risk of an endemic pathogen and decide how we will respond.

    #86905

    What I think is happening is the vaccines have started to kill people, the vaccinated. But those deaths are, and will be, reported as Covid deaths, unless there’s very clear evidence that it was the vaccine.

    Which means the entire danger profile of the vaccines will remain hidden for a long time. Until now the language was of breakthrough cases etc., but there are simply too many of them. That doesn’t mean they will be noted as ADE cases though, they will be Covid deaths.

    The CDC can say “Unvaccinated 11 Times More Likely To Die Of Covid”, but that doesn’t rhyme with anything I see anymore.

    #86908
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    The Daily Covid
    * Vaccines produce 1000X spike proteins as Covid
    * Long term Covid 19 vaccine effects may include all kinds of autoimmune diseases all of which will require a lifetime of expensive medicines to treat
    * Your Body, My Choice: Biden to run over governors but it’s not about politics
    * Politics n.: competition between competing interest groups or individuals for power and leadership
    * Nobody died when Clinton lied
    * Gupta: How do you convince people with natural immunity to also get vaccinated
    – Fauci: My answer on that is rather flaccid. I need to make up some data and have a dose of Viagra before I can screw those people
    * Pfizer working on jab for sperm; Good news is that it will only cost pennies per spermatozoon
    * Joe Biden: I’m not a doctor, but I play one on TV, and I recommend you get vaxxed
    * Examining Covid Data: Where you slice the apple determines whether you get stem, seeds, flesh or the worm

    * If you want to know who rules over you, just look for what medicine you are not allowed to take

    * The New Nuremburg trials:
    Prosecutor: Joe, try to form a sentence out of the words hare, hunter and field.
    Joe: That’s easy guy. Hunter held the girl down by the hair in the field.

    Science: Doubt the experts
    The Experts: Doubt your doubts

    My Country Used to Be

    #86909
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I guess I’m saying

    War on Poverty = More poverty
    War on Drugs = More drugs
    War on Terror = More terror

    War on Ivermectin = ???

    Yaaaaayyyyyy!

    Since IVM may cure the common cold (Corona is the common cold) and perhaps other things, I can only thank them most heartily for bring it to all our attention.

    #86910
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Raul:

    “How many fully vaxxed breakthrough cases are being reported as vaccine deaths?”

    ZERO

    “What I think is happening is the vaccines have started to kill people, the vaccinated. But those deaths are, and will be, reported as Covid deaths, unless there’s very clear evidence that it was the vaccine.

    Which means the entire danger profile of the vaccines will remain hidden for a long time.”

    EXACTLY.

    These vaccines are horrifically dangerous (I use the word horrific on purpose). Not only are vaccine deaths being reported as covid deaths, the true vaccine adverse event death count will never be known because even if in the future we carry out a postmortem examination of the cases of death, the *true* numbers have been lost forever. They were never examined.

    Spend a bit of time in VAERS and notice how many elderly died following vaccination in Dec/Jan/Feb of 2020/21 … it’s astronomical. Would they have died anyhow? No one will ever know. No assessment took place.

    As time passes we now have vaccinated people developing cancer, dying unexpectedly from heart attacks and strokes, etc. Vaccine related? We will never know.

    #86911
    anninvancouver
    Participant

    Just watched this most interesting interview with a exBritish intelligence officer. He goes into a very well argued discussion about the use of psychological tactics, background and motive for the COVID fiasco and where we are in the cycle.
    I found it one of the most enlightening and strangely hopeful videos i’ve watched on this topic
    https://rumble.com/vma4hp-brian-gerrish-w-reiner-fuellmich-regarding-huge-psychological-operation.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=HealingEarth&ep=2

    #86912
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I’m also very suspect when an autopsy done on a person who died following vaccination determines “the vaccine wasn’t a factor”.

    Sorry, but without seeing the actual pathology tests run and the results of those tests, I ain’t buying it. Just what DID that person die from then? Blood clots that caused a heart attack or a stroke … that originated why?? Would need far more details before I buy into the BS that the vaccine couldn’t be the catalyst.

    And that, dear friends, is what this covid mess has done to the last little bit of my trust in the US medical system.

    We’re on our own in this fustercluck. “Team Pony” for the win … 😉

    #86913
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Raul: “Well, while we’re mourning the 9/11 deaths …”

    I’m not.

    There’s a time for mourning, and there’s a time to move on. For those of us who didn’t lose a close loved one on that day, mourning for people we didn’t know 20 years after the fact is a bit unbalanced.

    Not sure why humans focus on negative stuff. Much healthier emotionally to acknowledge something bad happened, think about it briefly, and get on with the act of living.

    #86914
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.cp24.com/world/biden-obama-clinton-mark-9-11-in-nyc-with-display-of-unity-1.5581463
    Biden, Obama, Clinton mark 9/11 in NYC with display of unity

    Trump was not recognized or invited to display unity with other presidents and dignitaries.
    The currents of hate, payback, and grudges run deep.

    #86915
    Bill7
    Participant

    I think Tom Luongo has it pretty much right in this column:

    Quietly Say “No” to Joe Biden’s Call for Civil War

    They’re pushing hard for violent confrontation (note Biden’s precise words); I’m not going
    to give it to them.

    #86916
    boilingfrog
    Participant

    Anecdotal data: 60,000 fans in our local ACC college football stadium last Friday evening, on a “vaccine-mandated” campus.

    One week later an ER physician friend reports her hospital is “covid-crazy” this morning, tons of cases, some requiring hospitalization.

    Home game #2 starts this afternoon in 40 minutes. We’ll see the results in a week. But one thing is for sure, the ‘unvaccinated’ will be blamed.

    I’ve been gently showing data from Scotland, England and Israel to some folks. To a person, “That doesn’t sound right?” Really? Show me the data your experts are using. If you don’t collect data, youre not doing science.

    More and more folks within my circle of contacts seem to be saying of Fauci, et al, “Hey, wait a minute…”

    #86917
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Thank you, Bill7, for the Tom Luongo link. Excellent.

    #86918
    Bill7
    Participant

    You are welcome, upstateNYer.

    #86919
    #86920
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Raul: “Liberte” Paris tweet

    Seeing in action what Dr D writes about. Who has the power?

    Go France!!!

    #86921
    Kimo
    Participant

    Karl Denninger has found his published evidence from the NIH, and proclaims,

    “[T]his data proves that in fact it [the vaccine] makes infection and transmission more-likely rather than less in very large swaths of the population as a whole.”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243546

    #86922
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    In 1984, the term moral distress was first conceptualized by Andrew Jameton in his book on Nursing Practice, to describe the psychological conflict nurses experienced during, “ethical dilemmas.” He wrote that “moral distress arises when one knows the right thing to do, but institutional constraints make it nearly impossible to pursue the right to pursue the right course of action”. Move onto to Johnathan Shay et al who coined ‘moral injury’. Warning rattlesnakes, landmines and my opinion are ahead. From my reading of Shay I get this. Moral injury is a betrayal of what is right by someone that holds legitimate power in a high stakes game/situation. Regards.

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