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    Vincent van Gogh A Restaurant at Asnieres 1887   • Why Are We Vaccinating Children Against Covid-19? (Elsevier) • Full Covid Genome Found In Stoo
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 24 2021]

    #87965
    deflationista
    Participant

    Antivaxxers love to cite rising case numbers that include cases in unvaxxed kids as evidence vaccines don’t work. Then they insist kids should be excluded when you calculate vaccination rates in the population. I can never tell if they’re being willfully deceptive or just stupid.

    For instance, antivaxxers love to claim that Israel and Scotland are highly vaxxed, because they’ve vaxxed a high pct of adults, and to then point to the number of cases in those countries as evidence vaxxes don’t work.

    But what they never mention is that 40%+ of Israel’s cases since its summer surge started have been in kids, most of whom are unvaxxed. And Scotland’s recent surge has been propelled by cases in unvaxxed kids.

    If you count cases only in adults, then it’s fine to exclude kids from vax calculations. Otherwise, ignoring kids when you cite countries’ vax rates is a quintessential case of lying with statistics.

    #87966
    deflationista
    Participant

    Twitter suspended the account of the new Surgeon General of Florida.
    You are in ok company, I guess.

    The new Surgeon General in Florida? You mean the guy who is part of MAGA’s infamous America’s Frontline Doctors group that gave that hours long “White Coat Summit” on the steps of the Supreme Court? The group of cranks founded by that crazy person, Simone Gold, who was arrested on January 6th after storming the US Capitol, and that demon sperm lady, Stella Immanuel? The same group which is featured prominently in posts and comments by people here who call themselves thinkers? His first act? No more quarantine rules for children testing positive in schools. It’s like Florida got jealous that Idaho took the lead in stupidity.

    #87967
    Germ
    Participant

    August 2020:

    303 Covid deaths.
    (No vaccine)

    August 2021:

    3081 Covid deaths

    A 10 fold increase.

    Info from government website https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

    #87968
    Germ
    Participant
    #87969
    Germ
    Participant

    A recent report from the USA details how in a Texas prison, amongst the 172 ‘’fully vaxed’’ prisoners, 70% (129) of them became infected with Covid.

    This again shows that Vaccine Passports are a complete fraud, they are deception. The are not based on science or health, they are just a political tool to divide the population and to increase the profits of the vaccine sellers.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e3.htm

    #87970
    Germ
    Participant

    #87971
    Germ
    Participant

    Ding! Ding! Ding!

    #87972
    Germ
    Participant

    #87973
    Germ
    Participant

    Reflections on the UK (and European) energy crisis.

    Great piece.

    Crisis by design

    #87974
    Germ
    Participant

    “Return of the common cold: infections surge in UK as autumn arrives
    After 18 months of social distancing, scientists believe people’s immune defences have weakened”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/24/return-of-the-common-cold-infections-surge-in-uk-as-autumn-arrives

    #87975
    Dimitri
    Participant

    You can’t make this s**t up

    #87976
    Germ
    Participant
    #87977
    a kullervo
    Participant

    @deflationista

    It would be OK if you had a bare minimum of sense of humour – but that would require brains, and you have none.

    I request a better troll… (I get it, this one’s for free, but nevertheless…)

    #87978
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Raul, Mr House and Germ, thank you very much for providing insightful and quite profitable reading material of late.
    The Menticide here in Victoria is almost unbearable – one day the fog will lift and it will be very hard not to want to rub people’s faces in it – though they will cry they didn’t know – I know that they could have tried to learn to know.
    Anyway peace and love to all here and even to Faucci. You can still wish love and peace on a fuckwit.

    #87979
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    It’s Ruechel again with a monster essay. It’s really clear and explains very well why the very worst things we could do to get over the virus are what our governments forced on us: lockdowns, masks, social distancing, ultra hygiene, suppression of early treatments and vaccines. Vaccinating nearly everybody is pretty much bound to lead to a human type of Marek’s disease and then we’re all screwed, vaxxed and unvaxxed alike. If you’re unjabbed the super variant will kill you and if you’re jabbed you’ll have to get boosters every five months – playing Russian roulette with the side effects each time – or die.

    https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html

    #87981
    Jim W
    Participant

    News Flash! Front page article in today’s Guarniad on the Ivermectin hoax: Desperation, misinformation: how the ivermectin craze spread across the world. Thank goodness the matter is settled! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/24/ivermectin-covid-peru-misinformation

    #87982
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Karl D suggests picket local legislators houses and businesses.

    Americans barely protest illegal wars that cost Trillions or the 1% owning 90% of everything.

    Or corrupt banks or the War Mafia or the Education Mafia or the Drug Mafia.

    Why start now, apathy and disconnect have worked brilliantly so far for the bulk of US Consumers (not citizens, consumers is their official designation)

    ...

    #87983
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I signed up a while back to do a 5k run with my 11-year-old. It’s a fundraiser for his school. The run is being held outdoors on a local college campus this Sunday. On Wednesday at 9pm I got this email from the organizers:

    Hi! Please be advised that we have made an update to the XXXXX 5K race. Please see below:

    UPDATE 9/22/2021: As per XXXX College, to enter onto campus for the race, all adults guests must show one of the following:

    Proof of COVID vaccination OR
    Negative COVID test; OR
    Proof that you have had COVID in the last 90 days
    Race day and pre-bib pick up information will follow later this week. We look forward to seeing you on Sunday

    This race includes a kid’s 1/4 mile “fun run.” Many older, unvaxxed kids will also be participating in the 5k, including my son. Ah, yes. The Holy Gospel of “The Novel Science.” (TM)

    Also, it appears that if you had Covid 91 days ago, that does not count.

    If it were just me, I would give the organizers my opinion. But my son is looking forward to this, so I immediately tried to schedule a test with one of the chain drug stores. All the rapid test appointments were filled through the weekend. I then went to regular lab tests. Earliest I could get was today at noon. So now I have to hope I get a lab result back on Saturday. Might be able to get a home rapid test, but not sure if that will be good enough. (By the way, very invasive info requested. Rite Aid was the worst, partnering with some company that will share info. Even the one I did, they now have my vax status and my insurance co. notified.)

    When I alerted my ex of the situation, she wrote back:
    Unvaccinated people will not be allowed to participate in many things in the new world order.

    Then last night she sent me this helpful article in Bloomberg:

    Here’s What the Next Six Months of the Pandemic Will Bring

    A few highlights:

    Almost everyone will be either infected or vaccinated before the pandemic ends, experts agree. Maybe both. An unlucky few will contract the virus more than once.

    “We’re going to see hills and valleys, at least for the next several years as we get more vaccine out. That’s going to help. But the challenge is going to be: How big will the hills and valleys be, in terms of their distance?” Osterholm said. “We don’t know. But I can just tell you, this is a coronavirus forest fire that will not stop until it finds all the human wood that it can burn.”

    Immunization is helping to moderate incidences of severe cases and deaths, but surging infections mean the virus is reaching the young and others who remain unvaccinated, leading to rising rates of serious disease in those groups.

    History shows the commonly held belief that viruses automatically get milder over time — to avoid completely wiping out their host population — is wrong, according to Simonsen.

    Early in the Covid outbreak, there was good reason to hope that vaccines would provide long-term protection, much like childhood shots that stop diseases such as polio.

    Coronaviruses have a “proof-reading” mechanism that fixes the in-born errors caused when the virus replicates, reducing the likelihood of variants emerging when the virus is transmitted from one person to another.

    The number of global cases has been so vast, however, that mutations are occurring anyway.

    Other even grimmer possibilities for the coming months include the emergence of a novel influenza virus or another coronavirus making the leap from animals into humans.

    “As long as there are animal reservoirs of coronavirus there is still the possibility that another zoonotic coronavirus could emerge in the future,” Subbarao said. “There is that in the background, the risk of still dealing with this one when another one emerges.”

    What seems clear is that the pandemic will not be over in six months. Experts generally agree that the current outbreak will be tamed once most people — perhaps 90% to 95% of the global population — have a degree of immunity thanks to immunization or previous infection.

    The key element should be vaccination, they say.

    “Without vaccination, one is like a sitting duck, because the virus will spread widely and find most everybody this autumn and winter,” said Simonsen.

    #87984
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Karl D has another good one this morning on Nad:

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243683

    #87985
    chooch
    Participant

    Raul, thanks again for the line up today.

    In the limit, as we provide opportunities for the virus to optimize it’s symbiotic relationship with our immune system we are likely to live long miserable immunocompromised lives, irrespective of injection status. Until, of course, some of the sickly survivors mate up produce a gene in their offspring that provides protection.

    #87986
    Germ
    Participant

    “The Italian government recently announced a mandatory vaccine passport for both the public and private sectors and announced that workers that cannot show a vaccine passport will have their pay withheld.
    The government decree will force about 23 million Italian workers to get a “Green Pass,” a COVID-19 vaccine certificate issued to those that have been vaccinated, recovered from the virus, or have a recent negative test. Some were concerned that unvaccinated workers would be fired.
    However, on Wednesday, the government announced that those who do not comply with the order should not report to work but should not be suspended or fired. Instead, they should be considered to be on an unjustified absence and have their wages or salaries withheld.”

    Italy tells employers to withhold pay for those with no vaccine passport

    #87987
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Jim Kunstler was interviewing Dave Collum, a good buddy.

    The topic got around to Fauci.

    What should happen to him.

    Collum said he (and et al) should be locked into glass booth at a Nuremberg 2.0 trial, convicted and then hung.

    He wasn’t being facetious.

    ....

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    #87988
    Germ
    Participant

    This is the shit we read in supposedly reputable newspapers in the UK.

    “Desperation, misinformation: how the ivermectin craze spread across the world”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/24/ivermectin-covid-peru-misinformation

    #87991
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Fixed it for ya, germ:

    Desperation, misinformation: how the vaccination craze spread across the world”

    #87992
    userzeroid
    Participant

    The smell of desperation is in the air, the clowns are losing and they know it. Whatever algos and fan boys they are using are devoid of spirit and since dread and obedience is all they can summon it all looks a lot like a recreation of edvard munch’s classic is on the cards for the masses to me.

    Just think of the party on the other side of this once this giant shitshow is finally over. Much love and luck to all ahead

    #87993
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Antivaxxers love to cite rising case numbers that include cases in unvaxxed kids as evidence vaccines don’t work. Then they insist kids should be excluded when you calculate vaccination rates in the population. I can never tell if they’re being willfully deceptive or just stupid.

    Calling us “willfully deceptive or just plain stupid” when you continue to use the disingenuous slur “anti-vaxxer” just because we question and reject the one small subset of vaccines that you have apparently made your religion and your love is truly rich. For the life of me, I can only begin to guess at the nature of your emotional attachment to these experimental serums. Perhaps you received the jabs and experienced or heard/ read about something that gave you serious second thoughts that you must now spend every waking moment ferociously fighting off? I guess we’ll never know.

    #87994
    Germ
    Participant

    Starting from 3/10/21 – Israel is turning their Green Pass into a QR code.

    Without a valid vaccination shot – you won’t be able to enter businesses in Israel
    Enforcement will be carried out by the Police

    Don’t have a QR code?
    No life for you – Oh the irony.

    Talk about being lab rats.

    #87995
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Nuremberg: The Doctors Trials

    Dec 1946 – Aug 1947

    “The doctors’ trial (officially United States of America v. Karl Brandt, et al.) was the first of 12 trials for war crimes of high-ranking German officials and industrialists that the United States authorities held in their occupation zone in Nuremberg, Germany, after the end of World War II. These trials were held before US military courts, not before the International Military Tribunal, but took place in the same rooms at the Palace of Justice. The trials are collectively known as the “Subsequent Nuremberg trials”, formally the “Trials of War Criminals before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals” (NMT).[1]

    Twenty of the twenty-three defendants were medical doctors and were accused of having been involved in Nazi human experimentation and mass murder under the guise of euthanasia. The indictment was filed on 25 October 1946; the trial lasted from 9 December that year until 20 August 1947. Of the 23 defendants, seven were acquitted and seven received death sentences; the remainder received prison sentences ranging from 10 years to life imprisonment…..”

    They only brought to trial 23.

    There were thousands who should have been punished.

    ...

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishvirtuallibrary.org%2Fjsource%2Fimages%2FHolocaust%2Fbrandt.gif&f=1&nofb=1

    #87996
    Oroboros
    Participant

    That’s a picture at Nuremberg of Karl Brandt personal physician to Adolf Hitler.

    The face of Evil

    He was hung in June of 1948

    #87997
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    And besides, since a “case” can be anybody who received a virus-positive PCR test run at who-knows-how-many cycles, with or without symptoms, I’m more concerned about serious illness and especially hospitalizations than I am “cases”.

    #87998
    Germ
    Participant

    Well, well, well.
    Scroll down and look was was quietly added back in July.
    Our good friend IVM.

    https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/

    #87999

    Awesome find, germ.

    #88000
    Germ
    Participant

    The NHS is struggling to cope with growing demand for urgent and emergency care, health officials have warned, with hospitals under the kind of pressure “usually seen at the height of winter”.
    “We are seeing levels of demand usually seen at the height of winter: demand for ambulance services is rocketing and increasing numbers of patients are waiting longer than 12 hours to be admitted. No one should be under any illusions about the scale of the task we face in the months ahead.”
    “This is a disaster,” … “This is a system that is on the edge.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/24/nhs-on-the-edge-with-some-patients-waiting-48-hours-for-a-bed

    Totally. Fucking. Normal.

    #88001
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I have no backup sources to this video but the story line matches up rather well with the @germ link to Ivermectin quietly being slipped into treatment protocols.

    Do you really think ‘they’ wouldn’t give IVM to ‘vaxxed’ patients to make them look good and no IVM to ‘unvaxxed’ to let them go into the ‘death’ column???

    Australian accuses hospitals of SAVING vaxxed patients with ivermectin while KILLING unvaxxed with ventilators

    https://www.brighteon.com/d39bd385-15c0-470f-9643-4a15b03e3db1

    #88002
    zerosum
    Participant

    Fauci would love to be able to ban, delete, eliminate TAE so that we don’t think, read and talk about …
    Reports and Research papers from around the world
    ——–
    Boiling water
    Complexity
    Distribution
    Supply
    Incompetence
    Crash
    Early treatment of covid
    The 3 monkeys (taboo)

    ———
    The elderly who died following COVID-19 inoculation were very frail with multiple comorbidities, their deaths could easily be attributed to causes other than the injection, or to other causes than covid-19.
    ———

    Tracking
    • Full Covid Genome Found In Stools – Meaning For Prevention And Treatments (VC)
    2. — > ://vcreporter.com/2020/09/full-covid-genome-found-in-stools-what-does-this-mean-for-prevention-and-treatments/
    3. —-> ://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-48863/v1
    4. —-> Version 1
    Posted 28 Jul, 2020
    5. —-> Version 3
    Posted 15 Jan, 2021
    ://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-48863/v3/277eeb95-5525-4a8a-9584-a4484a15f4f5.pdf?c=1631870757
    Detection of SARS-CoV-2 from Patient Fecal Samples by Whole Genome Sequencing

    Further reading ……
    ://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302817
    Travel Medicine and Infectious Disease
    Volume 36, July–August 2020, 101791
    Outcomes of 3,737 COVID-19 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin and other regimens in Marseille, France: A retrospective analysis
    Conclusion
    Although this is a retrospective analysis, results suggest that early diagnosis, early isolation and early treatment of COVID-19 patients, with at least 3 days of HCQ-AZ lead to a significantly better clinical outcome and a faster viral load reduction than other treatments.
    View PDF
    ://reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S1477893920302817?token=29D776E83C15920AAFC44A1BECD2AFBC653E724E2671DFA9218965C236DBEF66096FD09E8FE0D277E921D316A985C1D0&originRegion=us-east-1&originCreation=20210924141830

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    @Germ

    Just to give Fauci another reason to kill TAE, I’m going to cut and paste.
    ENJOY!
    https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/
    Table 2e. Characteristics of Antiviral Agents That Are Approved or Under Evaluation for the Treatment of COVID-19
    Last Updated: July 08, 2021

    Ivermectin
    Dosing Regimens
    The doses listed here are for approved indications or from reported experiences or clinical trials.
    Adults:
    The dose most commonly used in clinical trials is IVM 0.2–0.6 mg/kg PO given as a single dose or as a once-daily dose for up to 5 days.
    Generally given on an empty stomach with water; however, administering IVM with food increases its bioavailability.2
    A list of clinical trials is available here:
    Ivermectin

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search
    78 Studies found for: ivermectin | COVID-19
    Showing: 1-10 of 78 studies 10 studies per page

    #88003
    zerosum
    Participant

    Note:
    I’m sending a copy to my circle of life

    #88006
    zerosum
    Participant

    BIG NEWS
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/major-breakthrough-huawei-cfo-will-appear-virtually-us-court-resolve-charges
    There’s a huge breakthrough in the long-running Huawei saga that was central to the current breakdown and simmering tensions in US-China relations, as it was announced Friday morning that Huawei Technologies Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou will appear virtually in a Brooklyn federal court to resolve the US charges against her.

    Some of the late breaking details are emerging as follows:

    Justice Department Reaches Deal With Huawei Executive Faced With Criminal Charges

    In Deferred Prosecution Agreement Executive Meng Wanzhou Will Admit to Some Wrongdoing in Exchange for Government Eventually Dropping Charges

    Agreement Offers Meng Wanzhou an Exit From Canada, Where She Has Been Fighting Extradition to U.S.

    Deal Resolves One Source of Tension Between U.S. and China as Relations Deteriorate

    Meng, who has long maintained her innocence, has been held in Vancouver under a loose form of house arrest wherein she’s monitored 24/7 but still free to move about in what’s been dubbed by US media an “opulent detention”, following the December 2018 arrest at Vancouver International Airport which grabbed world headlines and unleashed fury from Beijing. She was alleged to have mislead HSBC about the Chinese multinational tech company’s dealings in Iran.

    After the expected US federal court appearance was reported widely on Friday based on a source close to the proceedings cited in Reuters and Canada’s The Globe and Mail.

    While neither Huawei spokespersons nor US prosecutors have yet to comment on the matter, Reuters underscores the US court appearance is expected to end in a softening of the stalemate and tit-for-tat arrests that ensued:

    #88007
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I found out yesterday that my daughter’s homeroom teacher has been propagandizing the students to get the vaccine, and to pressure their parents to allow it. Had to write to the principal and assistant principal this morning:

    It came to my attention yesterday that my daughter’s homeroom teacher, Ms. Vxxxx, has been propagandizing the students to get the Covid vaccination. She specifically directed the students to put pressure on their parents to get the students vaccinated.

    This is intolerable.

    As a parent, it is MY responsibility and MY right to make medical decisions for MY child. The teacher is not there to tell the child what medical procedures to get done, nor to use the child to influence the parent about medical procedures for the child.

    As it is, there is also NO FDA APPROVED VACCINE for the age groups of the children at xxxx School. That means that any covid vaccines are experimental for children ages 12-15. It is completely inappropriate — AND AGAINST THE NUREMBERG CODE AND AGAINST STATE AND FEDERAL LAW for anyone to be pressured or coerced to undergo an experimental medical procedure. A child cannot give consent — therefore, it is inappropriate to have this discussion with a child.

    Additionally, are you familiar with what has happened to Maddie de Garay? She was12 years old when she participated in the Pfizer clinical trials for children ages 12-15. She is now paralyzed from the waist down, has a catheter, cannot eat and has a feeding tube. All this show-balled into existence immediately following her second Pfizer vaccination as a part of the clinical trial. If you are not familiar with this story, as someone who works with children in this age range, I advise you to become familiar with it.

    Kindly do not inform the teacher which student’s parent sent this email. I do not want my child discriminated against for my views.

    #88009
    those darned kids
    Participant

    pfizermectin to the rescue..

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