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  • #196628
    Red
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    “What good are Patriots vs hypersonics?”
    Exactly, the Israelis know this now, that’s why they are giving them away.

    “Ukraine is seeking to establish a layered permanent defensive air shield based on advanced systems provided by the West.”
    Just like the iron dome!

    #196629
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Breaches $3,800, $47/oz

    Remember, even this week they were like “Do you think Silver could REALLY reach its former $50 high? Nah, probably not. That’s a whole dollar away from here.”

    YGBFKM. If that doesn’t say “Not a mania” I don’t know what does.

    Luongo, BTC $175k even. Then Alt coins kick in (he’s just reporting previous cycles and numbers).

    But the Dow will rise. How? The Dow limps upward, while the P/E and other metrics FALL. That is, because of capital flows, and expressly Trump/Bessant laser focus on getting investment to MAIN STREET, to make factories, not London financial Rentiers, The Dow may not crash, and everyone will say it remains in a stupid-bubble. Which it is. But every year it slowly becomes LESS of a bubble. Even as price holds or slightly rises. This is the goal.

    Collum on how Dow is 90% overvalued and must crash, same reasons. But his psychological thesis is that the only POSSIBLE remedy is to Japan, 1990, the market doesn’t move and grinds everyone out for generation(s). Yes.

    Why? Because BTFD. We INVENTED that phrase for this whole generation, since 2001, 1994. So ANY drops will be bought. Those reckless pinheads must be punished or the market never re-establishes “Reality” again. The only way to do that is with a flat grind that blows all capital in trading fees. Makes people put their attention into 3D printing anti-gravity inventions, real things.

    Also Luongo: Private real estate, etc are not crashing. Wages will RISE, and perhaps inflation rises too because of it, but Purchasing power slowly INCREASES. That’s Anti-Inflation as we understand it.

    No one has tried or done this before, so these are only the pieces on the board.

    Scott Jennings: they’ve never met anyone that wasn’t kowtowing to their POWER. You use POWER to avoid all bad things, all discomfort, all objections. They have! You win! …Until one day you’re out in the street and someone says “The sky is blue and men aren’t women ackshully” and they mentally collapse over it like the Gutama Buddha.

    They are planning to attack Iran” Who is “They” though? (Israel. Another attempt to drag us in before they collapse and cease to exist)

    the US is turning responsibility for the Ukraine war to the Europeans and Ukraine, while at the same time he is going to great lengths as the war goes south to protect himself against the charge he “lost Ukraine.”

    With the comments, so many lies can’t keep track. Put it this way: Trump wouldn’t be dumping the war on Europe if it were winning, right? I hear that Trump knows it’s lost, doesn’t want to be a loser, and for Ego (his internal emotional state, which is the only thing that exists in the known universe, which is why they telepathically can know it) he is running away.

    Great! Okay, sold! And by the same logic EUROPE knows it’s losing, already lost, or THEY would want to ACCEPT the banner of this totally-winning war they promise is happening tomorrow when they roll into Moscow and Vladivostok on the head of some Fiats and Mini Coopers, holding Nerf guns.

    No? So EUROPE knows full well it’s entirely lost, and that’s why they’re panicked the U.S. won’t annihilate themselves fighting it for them? Well Great!

    That means EVERYONE knows it’s lost. EVERYONE. If U.S. knows, Europe Knows, NATO knows, then certainly Ukraine knows, and there’s no alternative but that Russia knows better than any of them.

    “We know that they are lying,
    They know that they are lying
    They even know that we know they are lying.
    We also know that they know we know they are lying. too.
    They, of course, know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying, too, as well.
    But they are still lying.
    In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.” — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, author of Live Not by Lies

    Yet they are still DYING. At 2 Millions, no one wants to stop. When everyone KNOWS – we just proved it – that they are lying and dying, there is no out.

    Except ONE MAN says, “Just stop the killing!” “Sue for Peace, you fools!” …And that’s the man you are mad at, criticize, and would impeach. Riiiiiiight.

    Winning is not your thing, is it?

    It’s more important to criticize from the peanut gallery than to do anything else, including saving 2 Million lives. Libertarian/Black Pill special.

    “‘stunning’ some European officials while unleashing an avalanche of speculation over what precisely he meant.”

    I don’t see how this is a mystery. It’s the least mysterious thing he’s done since I don’t even know when. Ask Doctorow. YOU say Russia is the size of Texas and collapsing. I’m repeating YOUR words and statements back to you, in public, and you are utterly baffled by them. “But, but! That is untrue!” they say.

    Yes, because they are YOUR words, Europe, MI6, Congress. Do you hear yourselves? I am following YOUR logic. I am entirely at YOUR command.

    “• Vance Calls On Russia To ‘Wake Up’ And Accept Reality (RT)

    Yes, he needs Russia to hurry up for some domestic (financial) reason. He’s saying if you dick around, eventually something will happen and you’ll only take Donbas when you could have 2/3rd of the nation and Odessa for the same pain.

    Vance Claims Russia ‘Refused’ Meetings With Trump (RT)

    They refused the same meeting they had just last week in Alaska. Goldfish! Squirrel!

    Although they did say Ukr was only 20% of the interest there. They’re not only destroying MacKinder, they are counter-attacking it, by unifying “The Land War in Asia” not through Germany, but China, Russia, and a land bridge to the US. Europe is helpless. They have no kind of leverage to stop MacKinder that far away.

    So railroad to Lisbon? How about railroad and pipeline through the Bering to another whole continent. …Also why they need Western Canada and dgaf about Ontario, write that place off as a loss.

    “• US Considering Tomahawks For Ukraine – Vance (RT)

    Yeah well they said they are selling any weapons to Europe, and EU is trying to call our bluff. We are probably consulting with Russia on it.

    “• Ukraine ‘Unlikely’ To Regain Territory Lost To Russia – Independent (RT)

    This was all about AMBIGUITY for COLLATERAL. …Same as Blair is trying for Palestine right now.

    They have to choke off the banking model and at the same time offer a new one. If you hadn’t noticed, this is hard and has a lot of moving parts. There may be $50B in bonds hovering against Crimea’s offshore gas, and if those are written off, bye bye Europe.

    If they can Bleak House them, with Jarndyce and Jarndyce, then just pay a modicum of interest and not write them off. — Like all Ukraine, defaulted totally since August 2024. UK is borrowing money, lending it to Ukr, who then pays UK the interest back with British loans. UK is on the hook and will cease to exist. They then “Collateral” all UK citizens as slaves via Digital ID

    “Zelensky Confirms Israel Sent Patriot Missile Battery To Ukraine

    That’s odd. How are they related again, since they’re totally not related, and Israeli central banker was no never force-installed in the Maidan, and Ukraine no never said they wanted to be “Israel 2.0” in 2022? Also on deck: Al-Golani ALSO best friends with Ukraine AND Israel, wow, wot a shock! Who knew? ISIS = Mossad, actually?

    This is so surprising that no one mentioned it, anywhere, worldwide. Nope. Just normal. He’s a guy in a suit.

    ““Agents were sent into a crowd control mission after the riot was declared by Metro Police – something that goes against FBI standards..”

    Uh, no. Stupid on its face. Unless you want to say they were home, watching TV in sweat pants, and got out the batsignal and showed up 40min after the “Riot” was officially declared. …Oh wait, it was already over then.

    “The bureau isn’t a riot squad,”

    So they quell a riot by pretending they’re civilians and entering the building? Wow, so tricky! This is the kind of serious policing money just can’t buy. Show me the agents on camera body-tackling the crowd and zipping them up.

    “Christianity is under attack.”

    By what? Itself? Anyway, already see Leftists online trying to make this another Right-wing person shooting Right wing people, because they always love to drill down to real evidence like that. “We will find the truth no matter who it is!!!” (As long as it’s only the other side, or we’ll stop talking)

    I’m bored. Yeah, we’re in a war and the other side is arranging shootings, which are totally not organic at all. Surprise. The only way this gets a Civil War is if we think they ARE organic, which they’re not. It’s the same rich dickweeds as usual.

    #196630
    Topcat
    Participant

    Russia needs to awake up….

    Some people are peddling the myth that’s Trump’s endless stream of lies morning , noon and night is some 7-D checkers move, you know, fighting fire with fire.

    That defeating the EMpire of Lies can only be done , well, with a mountain of lies.

    That lies can only be defeated with more lies.

    “Good lies versus ‘Bad’ lies.

    If that’s the case, ipso facto, then violence can only be defeated with more violence.

    Sounds very Old Testament to me.

    Lies are like violence with words.

    Maybe even violence to words.

    And the King in the Empire of Lies is Trump.

    It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one. – George Washington

    #196631
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wave-us-air-tankers-deploy-europe-historical-precedent-signals

    Looks like someone’s going to be receiving some Freedom and Democracy shortly.

    #196632
    Topcat
    Participant

    • Zelensky Confirms Israel Sent Patriot Missile Battery To Ukraine

    Two Zionazis licking each others anus.

    Bibi as Hannibal to Zelensky’s My Precious……

    #196633
    Topcat
    Participant

    #196634
    Topcat
    Participant

    • Kash Patel Accuses Christopher Wray of Lying to Congress About Capitol Riot

    That so rich.

    Patel has spewed lies non stop since becoming director.

    The FBI is a Den of Lies and Kash is it’s King.

    Wanna make a bet anyone that Patel & Trump won’t release the names of the 274 FBI agent provocateurs at J6?

    Or punish them?

    Put your money where you’re mouth.

    #196635
    Topcat
    Participant

    #196636
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Quote by Dante above.
    The thing is that mostly psychopaths perfectly understand and act on it.
    In another words, “make it work”.

    #196637
    zerosum
    Participant

    There is nothing we can do about it.

    Output is the result of Inputs.

    Garbage Out Results is due To Garbage In.

    One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure.

    ( The phrase “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure” means that people have different values, tastes, and needs.
    What one person may discard or overlook could be precious or useful to someone else. This proverb highlights the subjective nature of value and how items considered worthless by one individual can be seen as valuable by another.
    Historically, similar expressions have existed, emphasizing the idea that value is not absolute but rather dependent on individual perspectives. )

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    Debt Rattle September 29 2025


    TAE
    by RIM
    Watch what’s really going on behind the scenes.
    Watch the foremost realism foreign policy expert of our time unpack it…
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    #311: Putting it together, part two


    Surplus Energy Economics
    The home of the SEEDS economic model – Tim Morgan
    Growth in material economic prosperity has already ended, and contraction lies ahead.
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    https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
    Can Social Security Be Saved for Future Generations?
    September 25, 2025
    Charles Hugh Smith
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    Copilot inputs
    Top AI Models and Their Developers

    AI Models Mentioned Around Trump
    While Trump doesn’t use a specific model himself, these models have been involved in political analysis or fact-checking:
    So while Trump doesn’t use a single AI model personally, he’s actively shaping the AI landscape and leveraging its political and economic potential.

    The daily intelligence briefing prepared for President Donald Trump is called the President’s Daily Brief (PDB).
    – It’s a classified intelligence document compiled by the U.S. intelligence community.
    – Delivered five days a week, it summarizes the most pressing national security threats and global developments.
    – Includes updates on covert operations, diplomatic tensions, and emerging risks from adversaries like Russia, China, Iran, and others.

    – In 2025, Trump has reportedly attended only 12 PDB sessions since taking office in January.
    – He prefers graphic-heavy formats and often skips reading the full document, nicknamed “the book”.
    – His administration has restricted access to the PDB to minimize leaks.

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    #196638
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Well, well….
    Would love to be a fly on the wall in their household.
    No new iphone for you young lady.

    #196639
    Topcat
    Participant

    It’s like the Trump White House.

    It’s not a lie per se

    It’s just embroidering the Truth a bit….

    #196640
    Topcat
    Participant

    No problemo!

    He can get around fine on crutches for a couple years

    #196641
    Topcat
    Participant

    #196642
    Topcat
    Participant

    Dedicated to ‘law enforcement’ on J6

    Thank you for your service

    #196643
    Topcat
    Participant

    Ta-Da!

    #196644
    charles
    Participant

    Just exploring the plausible. Tomahawk, and others, could talk to Russia in flight to control which ones get through or where they strike regardless of launch set up.

    #196645
    those darned kids
    Participant

    we need to get all native speakers of algonquian languages to protest the use of the word “tomahawk” for these god-forsaken bringers of death and misery,

    and get the abominations grounded forever and ever

    amen.

    please.

    soon.

    please.

    stop.

    help.

    help.

    help.

    amen.

    maybe.

    for the kids.

    please.

    #196646
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Psychopaths and Sociopaths have spoken of water and health while poisoning water (with drugs, fluoride, chloramine, etc)

    Wait, HITLER drank water.

    Anyone who talks about healthy water, advises you to drink more water that is healthy, that drinks water themselves – clearly a sociopath. Your’e the same! You all have to be the same, probably worse, at the very least!

    But actually
    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CqVo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6242b260-a9e1-4bf1-ad51-e985e1ea94a9_758x505.png

    #196647
    WES
    Participant

    Patel Is Lying:

    The 274 FBI agents were already there deliberately pushing the Trump rally crowd back causing the death of a woman (Boyland) in the crowd.

    Kind of hard to murder a person, if you didn’t show up until after the crowd had already gone home!

    Comey:

    Since we already know nothing will happen to Comey, they will then say that is why they didn’t bother to charge all the others.

    Notice how we are being primed and set up by the msm, that more inditements are coming, when in fact none are coming.

    CK:

    Killed by his Israeli security detail.
    Notice how local police only handled chasing the decoys and holding news brjefings.
    While the security detail cleaned up the evidence and wiped out all the cell phones at the rally.
    The FBI is covering up and protecting the gov & deep state, by lying as usual.

    Trump An Israeli Puppet:

    Trump has kept many of his campaign promises.
    But it is now becoming very obvious by Trump’s Actions, he is also an Israeli controlled puppet.

    Gaza:

    Nothing is happening in Gaza because Gaza no longer exists.
    We are at peace with Gaza!
    /s

    #196648
    John Day
    Participant

    Go PCR!
    (Though I still think an “autonomous sentry” electronic targeting and firing device, in a briefcase, firing .45 ACP unjacketed hollowpoint, on one of those concrete blocks 60 ft to the front left from the stage, would have better served brown-shirt-guy’s button-press-activation)

    #196649
    John Day
    Participant

    It looks workable, basically the same Trump plan, with Trump and Tony Blair as overseers, an offer Bibi could’t refuse…
    “Israel Will Finish The Job” If Hamas Doesn’t Accept Trump’s 20-Point Gaza Plan & ‘Board Of Peace’
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/everybody-wants-deal-trump-presses-netanyahu-gaza-peace-4th-wh-visit

    #196650
    John Day
    Participant

    Oil is stable and as low as the majors can afford.
    Gold is $3832 now, and still rising against $US. https://www.kitco.com/charts/g
    What can all of that mean?

    #196651
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Every evil and ill in this world can b traced back, directly to 1 Tribe. Name it. Gaza, Ukraine, child abduction, sex slavery, adrenechrome. prostitution, gambling, usury, drugs, bribery, blackmail, on and on and fucking on….when will people see it? 1 Tribe of Chosen assholes. The “educated” are the last to figure it out, they were indoctrinated their whole life to not see it, and the first to line up for jewjabs. Sad sack shit.

    #196652
    John Day
    Participant

    They say the weed is getting diverted to the black market across state lines, too…

    Oklahoma Overrun With Chinese-Operated Marijuana Farms https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/oklahoma-overrun-chinese-operated-marijuana-farms

    #196653
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Mike Flynn really is an insame neocon pretending to be MAGA. What is it with these people and their obsession with war and with countries that mind their own business? They want to steal, like all good imperialists, and Flynn is trying to sell us on the freedom and democracy bullshit that has already been outed as fraudulent in the west. Flynn pretending that Venezuela is somehow the business of the USA.

    #196654
    aspnaz
    Participant

    In fact, after the Guido attempt to overthrow Maduro, a blatant attempt to install a US dictator, how does a piece of military shit like Flynn even have the twisted brains to bring up voting machines, then show us some lame assed single “whistle blower” as justification; as if anybody in their sane mind would believe anything a piece of military shit like Flynn ever says. Pathetically self unaware.

    #196655
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Trump telling Ukraine that they definitely can win the war, then telling the EU that they can spend Russia’s captured 300 billion, then telling Ukraine that he will sell them any weapons they want, without conditions.

    Obviously Trump is framing this as a hands-off, pure sales deal. What he fails to mention is that most of those weapons, especailly the missiles, cannot just be bought and handed over, instead they need to be operated by the US military using additional services such as military satellites. US military will be setting up these weapons to hit their chosen targets.

    Trump has obviously been told to keep Russia busy in Ukraine, he doesn’t really understand why, he doesn’t really understand very much at all, which is why POTUS briefing is now picture book story time.

    Maybe he is getting restless because he hasn’t made a deal recently, his last deal killed the US China soybean trade – wow, what a genius – and when he tried to walk it back (TACO) China told him that US soybeans are a thing of the past in China. Ooops! But he is not alone, Poland refused to allow Chinese imports to travel by rail across their country from east to west. The Chinese started shipping them via the north pole – good business for Russia – and the Poles then tried to walk it back, no deal, Poland loses the China shipping fees forever. The west is full of moronic leaders owned by even more moronic trust fund kids who call themselves the elites.

    #196656
    kultsommer
    Participant

    At point 1, calling Hamas a “tehrrorhrrrhists” and not resistance fighters is sign of a bad omen for the “20-point”
    Referring to Tony Blair as a “good man” produces gut reflex too.
    Trump does not have any soft spot in his hart for the Palestinians based on his previous and ongoing actions.
    I see a lot of Jew-BS pushed forward.

    So be careful. .

    #196657
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #196658
    WES
    Participant

    Gaza Peace Plan:

    The Trump peace plan looks exactly like all the previous peace plans.
    Nobody is going to pour money into resorts located on a mass graveyard!
    Just pure msm smoke and mirrors propaganda to hide the truth.
    Peace = War, another word for genocide.
    The mostly peaceful genocide, will continue as before.

    #196662
    aspnaz
    Participant

    WES said

    Nobody is going to pour money into resorts located on a mass graveyard!

    Chinese would consider this very unlucky, so maybe a Jew-only resort.

    #196689
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    WES said

    Nobody is going to pour money into resorts located on a mass graveyard!

    Chinese would consider this very unlucky, so maybe a Jew-only resort.

    Best punch line that you’ve written all year. World class.

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