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  • #117315
    boscohorowitz
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    FROM THE ABOVE HEADLINE’S KEY TALKING POINTS:

    “Climate scientists acknowledged that it is hard to accurately quantify the exact size of the emissions and say the leaks are a “wee bubble in the ocean” compared to the massive amounts of methane emitted around the world every day.
    Nonetheless, environmental campaigners argue the incident reaffirms that the risk of sabotage or an accident makes fossil infrastructure a “ticking time bomb.”
    Denmark’s Energy Agency said emissions from the gas leaks correspond to about one-third of the country’s annual greenhouse gas emissions.”

    #117316
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “it is hard to accurately quantify the exact size of the emissions”

    SHould be a piece of cake: pipeline x miles long, x centimeters wide, filled with methane at x pressure.

    Sipshits galore in today’s academia and such.

    #117317
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    Experiment to see if I can add a graphic!

    #117318
    zerosum
    Participant

    IAN has release food galore for every living thing – from termites, black mold, ants, rats, to gators. Humans will be outnumbered and driven to less competitive places/environment.

    #117319
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    ‘then there is mere’… bullshit, I meant to write.

    #117320
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The basic position (pro or con) that people take in the Russian war-zone referendums is an excellent barometer of where those same people stand on all of the other existentially “hot” topics swirling around all over the place.. That’s kinda interesting, dontcha think?

    #117321
    zerosum
    Participant

    Florida, (IAN), has created a new definition ….
    Trailer trash is a derogatory North American English term for poor people living in a trailer or a mobile home. It is particularly used to denigrate white people living in such circumstances and can be considered to fall within the category of racial/ethnic slurs.

    #117322
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    Climate ‘Change’

    Siberia hit 100 Fahrenheit recently – so did Gnome Alaska in 1915

    Russia had a problem with crops some years ago due to a kink in the jetstream – it happened previously in 1889

    Australia’s Victoria province has floods every 21 years. It was predicted by climate activists that they would stop coming. They build desalination plants and filled the reservoir meant to store floodwater. The floods came and people died

    California has had droughts lasting 1,000 years. It only became wetter as Europeans were landing on the west coast.

    The ‘predictions’ are that it will become hotter/colder/wetter/drier somewhere sometime. Wow! How vague can you get? Computer models written by activists are hardly a reliable source of information, especially when they refuse to share the source-code so it can be checked by grown-ups.

    The bad weather may be unusual but has normally also happened in the past meaning it is not reliant on the current composition of the atmosphere. Predicting there will be bad weather and blaming ‘x’ is total garbage science.

    #117323
    WES
    Participant

    If you ever wonder why Bill Barr appointed Durham as special prosecutor, on his way out the door, now you see why! Nobody in power ever gets touched! So never ask for a special prosecutor!

    Afew sure isn’t going to like the CO2 info chart! Dr. D take another victory lap!

    #117324
    John Day
    Participant

    A useful point to consider is that the human species has had a very unusual 300 years, with mostly stable weather, industrialization with fossil-fuel windfall, iron for machinery, copper for electrical generation and transmission, instantaneous global communication, vast information storage and search capabilities, and so on.

    This 300 years is ending and we are arguing about which part of that is most fearsome, rather than securing our needs for the relatively near future, which is WW-3.

    The main predictable feature of WW-3 is the blocking of international trade, because the teams can more easily deny each other than supply themselves.

    #117325
    John Day
    Participant

    Putin says Russia is bigger now and forever, and that US benefitted from Nordstream sabotage, and that it is “clear to everybody who did it”.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-live-putin-declares-annexation-eastern-ukraine

    #117326
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/ukraine-four-oblasts-join-russia.html#more
    Ukraine – Four Oblasts Join Russia

    Any attempt to attack them is now an attack on Russia. They are under full protection of the Russian Federation, its military and those of its allies.

    For Ukraine to continue the war will mean the assured defeat of its army and further dismemberment as more regions will join Russia and Poland, Hungary and Romania will try to take the regions of Ukraine they previously controlled.

    ‘Western’ propaganda calls the votes for to join Russia a ‘sham’ and the process an ‘annexation’. But the votes were very real. The very high results for joining Russia are understandable Ukraine rejected these people and as those who oppose Russia have long left those regions.

    #117327
    John Day
    Participant

    Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, squabbling over how to line them up, is a form of denial of reality.

    Denial reduces cognitive dissonance, but does not deal with the urgencies of reality.

    #117328
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The roles have been reversed in this fading Age of Empires, The West is no longer the center, and all those who covet power will gravitate to the new center (wherever that settles out to be) to remain players in the Great Game. Most will very quickly forget that the sun used to rise and set in Brussels, London, and NY/DC. They will forget because it doesn’t matter, and there will be REAL present-time things that DO matter, so that’s where their time, attention and treasure will go. They will be too busy at that to giver their old stomping ground much notice, except as a colony to be exploited.
    The game now for PEOPLE is to protect our interests against the new Centers of Power. And the word “our” does not apply to the former U.S. government. Screw the old government. They are EVAPORATING faster than the mind can follow. I’m talking about us, the people.
    We’re faced with the likelihood of becoming a rustic outpost of easily ripped off local yokels if we don’t keep our eyes open stick up for our rights.

    #117330
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The Powers That Be have openly declared that they have the power to take away ALL of the power of the people who constitute their respective countries. In response to that proclamation the people of those respective countries have replied, “WHAT power are you thinking about in particular? The only power that you have as the government is the directed power of us, the people of the country. That’s all the power that there is. There isn’t any other source of material power, so if WE the people do NOT have the power to live, or eat, or stay warm, or make and sell things, then where is all your ‘Official’ governmental ‘Power’ going to come from, exactly?”

    In other words, the “All Powerful” elite leadership of a SHITHOLE, is as “powerful” as a hole full of shit…… please pardon my French.

    Reality has come knockin’ for the late great Western Empire . . . . . and quite possibly most of the depraved lunatic Cabal that’s been running it into the ground.

    Things could get real salty during the transition, or maybe not, but one thing is for damned sure EITHER way : The “West” is OVER for a long time to come, and will not be coming back at scale anytime soon either.

    #117331
    oldandtired
    Participant

    @boscohorowitz

    The Powers That Be have openly declared that they have the power to take away ALL of the power of the people who constitute their respective countries. In response to that proclamation the people of those respective countries have replied, “WHAT power are you thinking about in particular? The only power that you have as the government is the directed power of us, the people of the country. That’s all the power that there is. There isn’t any other source of material power, so if WE the people do NOT have the power to live, or eat, or stay warm, or make and sell things, then where is all your ‘Official’ governmental ‘Power’ going to come from, exactly?”

    I am Number 7! Who is Number 1?

    “You are Number 1!”

    Time to stop being The Prisoner

    #117332
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    oxy: “the feeling you get in YOURSELF when you poke holes in the idea instead of the man or woman is more serene. And you get the added bonus of coming across as more adult and much more likely to be listened to.”

    I’m convinced that people (including me) post comments here as a way of trying to feel better somehow. There are many possible strategies to feel better, including putting others down to feel better about oneself, making assertions which prop up the appraisal (mostly self-appraisal) of one’s intelligence and understanding of complex situations, reinforcing one’s sense of control, being part of a group, and being helpful in some way to people and animals, etc.

    Ad hominems and personal criticisms seem to tell me more about the critic than the criticized.

    #117333
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @DocRobinson

    I think you are right, and I will try to reform, but don’t expect me to get better all at once.

    #117334
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Not sure why you directed your remark at me, old and tired, while quoting someone else.

    #117335
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I’m convinced that people (including me) post comments here as a way of trying to feel better somehow.”

    I’d say that’s true of 99.9% of all human’s actions, even masochism.

    #117336
    zerosum
    Participant

    Frontal attacks on the “all powerful” is foolish.
    “We” are working to rule so that we can survive to continue another day.
    flourishing – Underground, cash transactions, trading, black markets

    #117337
    zerosum
    Participant

    My crystal ball, full of liquid, sees a lot of forced selling

    #117338
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    Science is not “logical;” science is factual.

    Science progresses logically but is factually guided. Mathematics however is logic based and not fact based. It’s been “designed” to model “the real world” but there is plenty of math that was invented for it’s own sake and may or may not have real world application. Math doesn’t model the real world exactly but is good enough to get a man to the moon. All models are wrong but some are useful.

    Speaking of model the US could have pursued a Nash equilibrium with Russia and China, a state where changing our strategy didn’t benefit us and the same for them. But our fearless leaders thought they could get all the marbles and now an equilibrium will have the US and EU in much poorer position.

    #117339
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @zerosum

    What you said bears repeating, “Frontal attacks on the “all powerful” is foolish.
    “We” are working to rule so that we can survive to continue another day.
    flourishing – Underground, cash transactions, trading, black markets”

    Exactly right, in my opinion. Spot on.

    #117340
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “IAN has release food galore for every living thing – from termites, black mold, ants, rats, to gators.”

    It has also released toxins galore. Gas containers from huge underground gas station reservoirs to 2-gallon jerry cans, for example. All kinds of industrial ick that normally are safely stored in one place are now spreading far and wide via nature’s favorite fluid solvent, water.

    Not to mention lots of drowned dead critters.

    A friend of mine lives in the main Ian impact zone but off the shoreline (she’s not nuts). Her livestock was terrified except for the turkeys, who just hunkered down and stayed calm. Turkeys are tough. Just ask Ben Franklin.

    I ask, btw, what good is it for any of us to take victory laps over (allegedly) winning some bone of contention. No one’s mind is changed, no problems are solved, and the ego remains in charge of its personal insane asylum: the human personality complex.

    The green swindle will continue until it no longer can. Whether the global climate is acting unusual or just being its typical erratic self between Ice Age cycles, we currently have too many people dependent on too many things that erratic weather too often destroys. We’re seeing a lot of that right now (witness Pakistan). Right now, today, erratic weather is hammering tens of millions of people directly and hundreds of millions indirectly, and billions of people overall, but all that we seem able to do is fling poo. Flung poo makes excellent fertilizer where it lands, but hardly enough to replace fertilizer made via the Haber process.

    As for the exhilarating thrill of hurling epithets at others, I know that thrill. My ego has no problem with me saying that I believe that my skills at the ancient martial art of Flung Poo are as good as anyone’s.

    Everybody is kung fu fighting (hoo, huh) Your mind becomes fast as lightning Although the future is a little bit frightening (little bit frightening) It’s the book of your life that you’re writing (life you’re writing

    Regarding various contentions like global climate yadi ya: I believe that our underlying sense of existential dread likes to fixate on single issues. It gives us something to blame and something about which we can “do something”. You know: ‘We’ve got to DO something about it!’ The overall picture is just too big for us to handle.

    Global climate etc. grew from a small thing started by M Naggie Thatcher to demonize striking UK coal miners as carbon demons. It took over from “environmentalism” once politicians realized it was a vote-gainer and a money-maker. Once politicians enter the scene, things go badly.

    But what politicians have done to scam money and votes via climate scares has little honest relation with the actual “science” (now available in handy 6-packs at Wal-Mart: Science, it’s what modern secular humanists crave) concerning climate this-and-that.

    Global this-and-that is also handy for TPTB as a dividing wedge, keeping us engaged in feces ballistics rather than doing useful things. 120 years ago it would be temperance unions versus, um, the Irish?? 😉

    We could be like this but we’d all have to admit how little we know, how little control we have over ourselves or this thing called human civilization and, worst but best of all, how we all deserve to love ourselves and each other despite being irrationally competitive fools.

    After all, everyone is better than me, including me.

    #117341
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I’d find it entertaining if yinz guys stopped fighting with each other and went over to naked capitalism and posted all kinds of comments with regards to how awful YVES SMith and Lamberts takes were with regards to COVID 19 and how wrong they were and how they should publish a public letter apologizing.

    #117342
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I’d do it myself but i think i’ve been permabanned

    #117343
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “In 1998 global warming stopped, showing that the warming was a correlation and NOT causation.”

    Christ on a crackerjack. That statement is SO unprovable, just as the statement that global warming is happening is unprovable. There are way too many variable to measure.

    I know, off the top of my head, two facts about global climate whatever that I feel are unassailable:

    1) increased ‘greenhouse gases’ mean increased absorption of infrared. THat’s uncontestable. It’s based on reliable essential chemistry

    2) the weather is currently hostile to a species who thinks that (for example)Phoenix, AZ is a smart place to live.

    One can neither prove nor disprove global hoogaboo. One can easily prove that we’re running out of those same fossil fuels so demonized by greenies.

    No wonder we appear to be down-sizing as a species, using our exalted leaders to do it for us one way or another but mostly many many ways at once. It doesn’t matter if half the world is too hot for us to live without cooling AC, or too cold for us to live without heating AC: both require vast amounts of physically affordable fossil fuels to maintain the population we have with the weather just the way it is now.

    P.S. IMO, y’all fling poo like a girl.

    “The Guinness World Book of Records says the fastest pitch ever thrown by a female player was 69 m.p.h. (111 km/h).Sep 9, 2020”

    “On September 24, 2010, former Cincinnati Reds pitcher Aroldis Chapman, who hails from Cuba, delivered a 105.1-mph fastball, measured by Statcast, in a game against the San Diego Padres, which is recognized as the Guinness World Record for fastest pitch ever. Jul 25, 2022”

    #117344
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Denial reduces cognitive dissonance, but does not deal with the urgencies of reality.”

    ““Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”” James Baldwin

    #117345
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    A Clear (and possibly fortunate) Case Of Mistaken Identity


    @Boscohorowitz

    I share your nonplussed discombobulation. Commentator @OldAndTired read my inspired and inspirational world class geopolitical analysis, recognized it’s genius immediately, and naturally ascribed authorship to the equally brilliant, Boscohorowitz. An easy and natural error to make. I was certainly not offended.

    On the other hand, maybe his opinion of my comment was that he had never read anything so dumb in his entire life, in which case I am simply grateful that he pinned the blame on you.

    #117346
    zerosum
    Participant

    Biden said that he did not release gas and that he does not believe what Putin says.

    #117347
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Global climate etc. grew from a small thing started by M Naggie Thatcher”

    Just to clarify ere I run off and play with my favorite non-human, Junebug:

    By ‘global climate etc.’ I mean global warming as a meme in the public media mainstream, not the findings and hypotheses on which anthropogenic global climate change are based.

    Junebug the Dog and her housemate, Booger the Bird Ballroom Dancing

    Junebug and Booger merely running amok

    #117348
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Biden said that he did not release gas and that he does not believe what Putin says.”

    Lol!

    #117349
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Well, that fake CO2 narrative was sufficient to get the non-scientists on their high horses and spouting garbage.

    Meanwhile, back in the real world, everything moves a step closer to nuclear war, with the NATO puppet in Ukraine making an application to speed up its joining of NATO., knowing that will bring the full force of the Russian military down on them (as opposed to the 15% or so that has been utilised so far).

    .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx1NXKIZvBA

    I suppose the NATOstan nations have to have a major war, now that their corrupt and fake financial system is unravelling so quickly. Perhaps several wars. Why not start a war with China as well. And Iran and Venezuela. In fact anyone one who disagrees is a target, both internationally and intranationally.

    “If you disagree you get annihilated.” -Midnight Oil

    I suppose the maniacs who are in control in NATOstan nations are so demented they think they can survive nuclear war.

    #117350
    Noirette
    Participant

    aspnaz posted, prev. thread:

    Truss is an ambitious imbecile sponsored and promoted by rich owners.

    Yes. Plus, she is a pathetic figure, a witless front-woman in it for the fame, the game.

    She used to be a brunette, a staunch Lib-Dem, a strong anti-Brexit voice
    .
    Then she flipped to blondine, Tory, pro-Brexit.

    People like this are pawns…. Aka accidental figures hoisted up to play some kind of role on front stage. They aren’t quite paid actors but getting close. Some of them may even believe they are vociferatin’ for some political position, action, etc. that they personally thing is ‘positive, worthwhile..’

    #117351
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    I have found Canadian Prepper to be on the mark pretty much all the time.

    #117352
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant
    #117353
    That Bloke
    Participant

    #117354
    Dora
    Participant

    Denninger’s latest commentary.
    “It’s A Sham Eh?”
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247072

    #117355
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    I’m convinced that people (including me) post comments here as a way of trying to feel better somehow. There are many possible strategies to feel better, including putting others down to feel better about oneself, making assertions which prop up the appraisal (mostly self-appraisal) of one’s intelligence and understanding of complex situations, reinforcing one’s sense of control, being part of a group, and being helpful in some way to people and animals, etc.

    Ad hominems and personal criticisms seem to tell me more about the critic than the criticized.

    Round & round the EG0s go, where they stop only The Infinite knows…

    Enjoy the bullshit, while it’s served up piping hot 😐

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