The Troika Turns Europe Into A Warzone
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July 3, 2015 at 8:53 am #22068Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Dorothea Lange Miserable poverty. Elm Grove, Oklahoma County, OK 1936 So now they do it. Now the IMF comes out with a report that says Greece needs he
[See the full post at: The Troika Turns Europe Into A Warzone]July 3, 2015 at 10:14 am #22069Carbon waste life formParticipantHold on (hold on), hold on (hold on)
Keep your eyes on the prize, hold on
Hold on (hold on), hold on (hold on)
Keep your eyes on the prize, hold onThe Greeks are brave, for all of us and not for the first time. May they also be steady!
July 3, 2015 at 10:43 am #22073Nicole FossModeratorAn imperium feeds on its periphery, hollowing it out until the shell that remains collapses in on itself. Greece is the first, or at least the most visible, casualty of that process, but it won’t be the last. As the periphery is sucked dry, the centre will starve. The centre and the periphery is are not determined geographically by lines on a map. The centre is the financial system, which has evolved from a highly effective parasite to an all-consuming monstrosity. That centre is laying claim to the underlying real wealth in a highly under collateralized world, where there is far too little underlying real wealth to satisfy more than a fraction of the outstanding promises it ostensibly backs.
Europe is currently in the forefront of financial crisis, but it is by no means the only part of the world facing catabolic collapse. The hollowing out performed by decades of ponzi dynamics has been very thorough, and the dominos are beginning to fall.
July 3, 2015 at 1:48 pm #22074dale@quiniscoe.caParticipantIn the good old days if a leader did not bow to the Oligarchs they would be assassinated(JFK). Then the Oligarchs got more refined and guided their puppets to the top of the election heap, no matter what party they were with. But even so every once and a while some uppity person would break through their control systems and become leader. Well, have no fear, the O team had a plan. Right after the election they would sit the leader down in some private board room and show them the JFK tape, shut it off and ask, ANY QUESTIONS?
So that’s what they did with Tsipras. After showing him the tape they came up with a way that his party can save face by calling the referendum and have Tsipras resign after. Then use the media to scare the pants off of the Greek people, rig a YES vote, and voila, all is good, FOR NOW!
Just saying.
DayoJuly 3, 2015 at 2:17 pm #22075XYZParticipantHello,
Nicole mentions catabolic collapse. Interesting term. I wonder where that came from.
Kidding aside, I am sitting here asking myself if I can recall her using Greer’s term in the past. Tough to say.
It raises the question of timelines and I wonder how aligned TAE and Greer are concerning the time it will take for events to unfold.
Best to all,
XYZP.S. What was the name of the fellow many years ago who often spoke of his trees and bees? And who signed “Bee good” and “Bee careful”.
July 3, 2015 at 5:56 pm #22078RaleighParticipant“The ‘Institutions’ Knew Greek Bailout Was a Scam
If this isn’t enough to hand up an indictment and put Merkel in prison for the rest of her natural life, what would be?
In other words Merkel knew at the time of the original bailout that the terms were not sustainable. That is, Greece, even with the original haircut that was put in the debt and the bailout loans they would not be able to pay.
But she pushed for it anyway and to this day has not admitted this.
What is knowingly handing someone a noose, claiming that it’s a rope to climb out of a hole with? What is it when the leader of a nation does that intentionally to the people of another nation? […]
Now take all this together and tell me why the Greeks should vote to continue under the present program. There is utterly no upside for them to do so; the present program that is in place cannot succeed according to the analysis, which means that a YES vote is a vote for economic suicide with certainty.
This does not mean that a “NO” vote guarantees success, but voting for something certain to fail, overseen by someone who appears to have known it would fail four years ago, is asinine.”
July 4, 2015 at 1:38 am #22088DEGParticipantI sincerely hope the Greeks vote no, but I bet they vote yes. I think most people are completely out to lunch with understanding modern life in all its complex financial and political realities. Then there’s the complex social realities. It’s a toxic mix for simple humans. Then add technology and software updates, the great warper of minds that promises to confuse 99% of the people. Our species has gone insane. A psychopathic elite rapes the planet and the mass of people without any moral or spiritual compass. The sheeple are willingly psyoped and herded into slaughtering pens. They don’t even see the stun gun aimed at their heads.
July 4, 2015 at 4:52 am #22091MSorciereParticipantThe Troika knowingly loaded Greece up with sustainable debt because it was a ‘quick fix’ avenue for a back door bailout of private banks that would otherwise have gone under.
Eurozone politicians were unwilling to risk their futures, fearing popular backlash unlike their US counterparts who had been far more brazen and culturally correct in their worship of the Money God. Most Europeans may still have some sense of society over marketplace.
Easier to scapegoat one of the smallest peripheral states whose former corrupt government gamed the system anyway. Greece is expendable to these fascist ideologues it appears.
I am ashamed on behalf of these (mostly) unelected psychopaths who will do anything – ‘whatever it takes’ – to perpetuate a destructive system .
I salut any government, politician or people who will stand against this bone and soul crushing juggernaut.
The US has already lost most of its democracy and its people are now more subjects than citizens. Must Europe also bend the will and self-determination of its citizens?
There is great harm in a centralized command/control top/down government. Just look across the pond and what do you see?
July 4, 2015 at 8:19 am #22092MSorciereParticipantSorry – should read ‘unsustainable debt’ in above post #22091.
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