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@ oxy, thank you for providing that legal precedent, even if it likely won’t make a difference. Can’t help but wonder where all the “citizens’ rights advocate” attorneys are in all of this. Another class of sycophants that I won’t forgive. The list is growing.
@ Bill7: is that actually Hillary? If it is (???) … I think it looks more like steriods (bloating) than just drinking. Knew someone years ago with Crohns and when she was forced to take steriods cause symptoms got bad she would blow up like that, then lose the bloat later when she could stop taking the meds.
@ my parents said: thank you for posting the link to the Seneff paper. I slogged through it (not too bad since a lot of the pages are the references list). About 35% of the scientific minutiae is over my head, but even with my level of understanding it’s relatively easy to understand the *potential* outcomes of the vaccines. Serious stuff. These scientists are only asking us to take a step back and assess what we’re doing. It doesn’t seem like too much to ask.
For anyone interested in learning more about Dr Malone’s background and his concerns, Del Bigtree posted a great Highwire interview with Malone on Bitchute. It’s Episode 221: The mRNA insider (note: Highwire posts varying segments of their full show. I searched to find the segment that is only the Malone interview. The video is about 1:39:00).
@V arnold: I replied to your reply on 6/24, in case you missed it.
@ V Arnold, agreed, we have been told one scary story after another for decades. I was thinking about that quite a bit last night after posting that comment. The list of scary stories is nearly endless, when you start counting them – right down to the local level here in the US where we have “active shooter” trainings that are inflicted on our children. (Although I do vaguely recall nuclear bomb “drills” while in elementary school so that’s nothing new). Mostly I haven’t bought into to the scary stories at all (the patriot act, the weapons of mass destruction, SARS, etc.).
And just to be clear, I wasn’t suggesting the coronavirus and vaccine issues are not genuinely harming and killing people – they are. I’m also not suggesting we shouldn’t share information to at least try to keep up with what is going on. I’ve just been struck lately with intense deja vu because a year ago it was pandemic, now it’s vaccine. Maybe it’s the speed at which the shift in the latest scary story is taking place that is disturbing? Or maybe the fact the scary story is global this time is what’s making it feel more threatening? Or perhaps you’re right … “Todays world, particularly in the west, is falling apart …” and there is little we can do but try to get out of the way.
What if … in early 2020 we were told one “scary story” (covid!!!!) to get us all moving in one direction and now, in early 2021, we’re being told another “scary story” (vaccine!!!) to get us all moving in another direction? And … what would the “why” of that “what if” be?
I’m channeling Dr D. tonight. 😉 Seems I’ve caught a glimpse of deja vu. The Matrix.
Doc Rob: ” “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” But in this case, instead of “good intentions” it looks more like “overblown fears.”
Good intentions. Overblown fears. Is there a difference? What caused the burning of witches? Good intentions to rid the community of satan? Overblown fears of satan?
Oxy, once you’ve got your bearings can you please toss your compass over toward NY, specifically central NY, and make sure you put my name on it? My compass isn’t working well, need a new one.
Doc Robinson, that stat on kids under 12 is disturbing. I’m so tired at this point I’m thinking Darwin. idk. 🙁
@Oroborus: food for thought. Scary.
I’ll bet a year’s pay on this, and I’m not a gambler: not one of the .01% elite parasites actually received a covid vaccine, despite what they’re saying or what we see on live on TV
John Day: “I need a bag of sheetrock screws to finish this work today.
I’ll call Washington for instructions.”oxy: “I think of this tainter thing a bit too and often hope for steam to run out of this technosphere”
Many thanks to both of you. Needed a laugh. 🙂
Oxy (Let’s Save Lives): “at the end of the day ALL fear is related to bodies and bodily attacks which is why our saints preserve us – they see through that. I have found this rolling totalitarian thunder frightening at times, as it threatens my optimism for humanity. We need to find comfort in the now. The peace of being still …” There isn’t a thing I could add to this thoughtful comment. Thank you again, Oxy.
Mr House: “You might be surprised to hear this woman speak and find that she is articulate. She is not screechy or huffy … She went semi-viral a couple of weeks ago after audio emerged of her giving a talk at Yale in which she detailed her violent fantasies against white people ” Na, they aren’t going to win this because there is no “there” there. Racism is racism. There isn’t a “reverse” of racism. It just is. If they keep pushing as hard as they’re pushing now, there will be a backlash. It won’t be pretty. I’m coming down on the side of Madamski on this one.
January 6th was a circus. No one with half a brain believes it. Anyone still paying attention is just seeking social media followers, clicks, and mo’ money (however that works, I don’t do social media). I feel sorry for the people being held in jail. Also for the woman shot by the police. Attorneys need to step up and do some pro bono work and get this circus dealt with, pull the tent down, load the trucks up, get it out of town.
Dr D earned the bright spot today: “Here’s the good side: because they’re all the same, and all cookie-cutter morons, they all have the exact same DIS-advantages.” Thank you. Needed to be reminded of that.
@restless94111, I have both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in my house so you raise a good question. Where did hydroxy go in this, er, “covid battle”? Are there doctors using hydroxy for covid who have collated and published results? (doesn’t need to be peer reviewed, what difference does that make at this point). I’m open to new ideas and think hydroxy should be used “in the field” and reported on. It’s widely used long term in people with autoimmune issues (Lupas, etc.) on a daily basis with little apparent adverse side effects.
Good to see Tucker Carlson have Dr Malone on his show. Large audience. Malone’s responses were intelligent and measured. When this all started in March 2020 I stupidly believed the virus was the problem. Later I realized the virus was the least of the problem, although even last fall I stupidly believed the experimental vaccines would be limited to adults only. I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any parent would *allow* their child to get this vaccine, much less be ecstatic about it. I’m getting demoralized. Does anyone here have something uplifting to share?
@userzeroid, webmd.com has a drug interaction checker. Maybe that can help answer your question?
I really really don’t want vaccinated people to experience ADE. I hope this is not actually happening and the numbers are skewed for some reason we haven’t yet identified, although it’s always hard to argue with Doc Robinson because he has mad skills when it comes to analyzing stats (hat tip, Doc – knowledgeable stat analysis is an art). I have vaccinated family members and friends. 🙁
@maryballon, I think you stated that very well. Thank you.
@ oxy, I have a question: I keep seeing interviews, essays and comments about how it’s not just greed but evil that is behind what is going on with the vaccines. If “evil” does exist then “good” must also exist because the natural world always maintains balance over the long haul. So … if evil is an entity, of sorts, that exists in this world, what is the entity of “good” that balances it?
@ mister: I’ll never let any person from any country inject any vaccine into me ever again in my life. That’s my level of trust in the apparent safety of anything any public entity is proposing at this point.
As oxy said, “I think fear got the better of me because there are still small pockets of trust left in my heart when it comes to authorities. There is no trust now.”
Yup. No trust left. Take that needle and stick it. I’ll die from something different, thank you.
@ ctbarnum: “Same: It’s not us, it’s a 501 (3)(c) organization. They can do whatever they want. wink.”
I’ve worked in the nonprofit [501c3 industry] for over two decades. There are 501c3 organizations, and there are “501c3 organizations”. The small ones, the ones who are actually in the community trying to do the best they can to help, are being ground under the heels of government boots. Many have folded because they don’t have the money to maintain back office functions to keep up with government regulations. There is simply nothing small 501c3s can do to stay in business (sound familiar? much like small businesses that have been crushed by global corporations). The “501c3 corporations” that are getting away with the money funneling BS are analogous to the large corporations that have crushed small business.
@ dark matter: providing photo ID to vote is discriminatory and discourages voter participation in marginalized populations. Having a Vaccine Passport on your smart phone so you can participate in society is for the good of public health and is your patriotic duty.
Whoops! Sorry, “my parents said” … I second (your comment) … John Day should be awarded a halo. A bit of a bumble there attributing to the wrong person. Time to shut down and go have dinner …
@ oxy: I second it: John Day should be awarded a halo.
As far as Dr D … he can ruffle feathers at times, but he’s our stand up comic, in a sense. He uses hyperbole to poke at accepted narratives in the attempt to penetrate the swirling fog. I’ve liked his comments from the first time I visited TAE and he remains one of my favorites. Plus he’s freaking intelligent.
And finally, Raul does a yeoman’s job of sifting through headlines and sharing with us what is going on in the world – the stuff we won’t see mentioned in mainstream. What he shares shifts as the tides shift and he stays up with it as best he can. Not an easy undertaking and how he does it, day in and day out, is beyond my comprehension. I’ll award Raul the gold star. Or two. Or maybe three. Or …
@ Oxy: you are on fire this “evening” (my time zone). Wonderful comments, especially the note about our saints. Thank you.
I read the transcript of that Harris “talk” to the advocates who will go door-to-door. It’s an understatement to say it makes your skin crawl. Just WHAT is wrong with people that this seems like normal behavior?
TAE Summary comments are fantastic. Genuinely appreciated.
@ ctbarnum: “And as Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte threatens to arrest citizens who refuse the vaccine, we can’t help but wonder whether the US will eventually embrace more heavy-handed tactics, especially as vaccination rates in some southern states remain stubbornly low. ” Americans have guns and, unlike in inner cities where there can be 25 shootings and only a few deaths, the majority of gun-owning citizens know how to aim. The nut jobs who think they’re in power need to be ultra careful with this. As one quite intelligent “gun advocate” stated in an interview I happened to listen to (loosely translated): having guns means we “can at least have a conversation.” Yup.
My parents said know: As far as not seeing the “real zombie apocalypse” yet … I hope you aren’t correct. Just seeing vaccinated people outdoors wearing masks seems a bit like zombie behavior. If someone starts chewing on my arm … [like you, lately I delete a lot of what I write] 😉
@ Roboto: It took a while for me to “get there” and I’ll raise my hand and admit that initially I fell for the pandemic narrative. Maybe that’s because of what was streaming out of Italy, coupled with living in NY where we appeared to be ground zero for what would spread throughout the entire US (spoiler alert: it didn’t). I even recall pushing back on Dr D, early on, when he bashed the pandemic and flatten the curve narrative. (Dr D: you were right, I was wrong. Time to admit that.)
Quite a while ago Dr D posted a comment here that I saved because it was a kind and, I felt, humane acknowledgment of the fact we all do the best we can at the time, and we’re all at our best when we adjust what we think and do based on new information. Hat tip to Dr D., whose comment follows:
“For Raul, he was on about this, but I gave him an awful hard time for most of a year without any pressure to backlash. That’s free speech, so we can have free ideas. Some others did too. So it’s not about being wrong: in a world of universal lies it was hard to tell what was going on, and we each pinned our estimations above or below the actual.
I’m not sure what more a person can do. Not be wrong? Not speak? What?”
Dr D
Dr D, beautifully stated: “We may be overhyping as much as under. But we do our best, and mostly IDENTIFY. What? The Truth. How? Because HYPE is pushed using very specific words, emotions, and hard sells. Truth as usual has no friends or bodyguards, no defenders, and speaks quietly in cautious, qualified tones.
So those that ask questions are the Truth. Those that deny questions are the false, the hype. Actually super-easy. They don’t have to be right, they just have to be genuine, with integrity. We know which is which transparently right now.”
I left out one important “over hype” question: Is it over hype when we are horrified by the dozens of new mRNA vaccines that are now in the vaccine development pipeline? (i.e., flu vaccines, which a good portion of people receive annually). I’m not sure what constitutes over hype when it comes to this madness. I”m open to a definition, though.
@ absolute: I can see where you’re coming from with the statement “to overhype the vaccine dangers without solid information is counterproductive”. But I’m not sure I understand what constitutes “over hype” considering many experts in the scientific/medical field are expressly stating the potential problems based on their knowledge and also citing studies that back up their concerns. And while it’s true that “two lies don’t make a truth”, the big problem at this point is that millions of people are being injected with a substance that has obvious immediate and short-term serious adverse effects, and of which the long-term effects are completely unknown and cannot be known at this time. So is it “over hype” for people to be shouting this concern as loudly as possible in the attempt to stop the experiment until accurate data is gathered and reviewed by independent parties? Is it over hype to scream bloody murder now that they’ve begun injecting children??
@ ctbarnum: “I get it. We have to pitch some ideals for a paycheck.” You nailed it. Thank you.
I was going to let the colbert/stewart debate go, but the problem I have with someone like stewart stepping up at this point and “going public” is that he waited until it was relatively safe to do since the lab leak is beginning to gain steam within the accepted narrative. Stewart obviously doesn’t need to worry about a paycheck … he could have used his humor and platform months ago to begin poking questions at what’s going and not worried about being homeless and hungry. People would have maybe listened to him before it got this bad. This grandstanding after it’s safe to do so BS is nauseating. It also belittles the people who are literally losing their jobs, putting careers on the line, facing legal charges, and facing potential bankruptcy to push back against whoever these nut jobs are pulling the biggest con in history.
@ Bill7, I listened to an hour-long interview with a Catholic priest the other day. I “almost” didn’t. In the past I wouldn’t have. Glad I did. While I can’t get next to some of his principles, he had some pretty profound insights in other areas.
(Inter Milan players): Tonsils are part of the lymph system and thus fight infection. Dr Day or one of the other researchers who comment on TAE can weigh in, but I believe one of the leading drs who warns about adverse reactions with the vaccines discusses how spike proteins enter and can cause problems in the lymph system.
One question I’ve had, and maybe one of our in-house experts can help us understand this if they have time, how does a covid test determine whether the person is infected with covid or infected by the vaccine? We’re constantly hearing how someone has problems after a vaccine and “also tested positive for covid.”
@ Doc Robinson, CNN article. I. Just. Can’t. (starts laughing hysterically) I saw some anti-trump yard signs around here, pre-election, that said something like “Please just make it stop”. I couldn’t agree more at this point. The problem is, with this “please just make it stop” go ’round we actually have people being harmed and dying, and no one with any real power or influence has any intention of making it stop. It sure ain’t funny, and it’s more disturbing than anything I thought I would experience in my lifetime. I can’t be the only one finding it difficult to concentrate and maintain focus on work, etc., over the past year, am I?
@ Bill7: yup, “extremist” (or any) label, or even just disagreeing with ONE point a person has negates EVERY point that person makes and he/she is summarily dismissed. I’ve been pushing myself to read blogs, essays, listen to interviews with people who have some “points” I don’t agree with but other “points to ponder” well worth considering. It’s been a bit of an eye opener (mind opener?). We need to work on overcoming this either/or mentality. It’s destroying us.
@ phoenix: agreed, well said. That article on heart inflammation in teens is disgusting. I listened to an interview with Dr McCullough (cardiologist) and he mentioned heart inflammation requires 3-6 months of drugs, zero activity, no stress. And hopefully there wasn’t damage. This downplaying of teens having an adverse reaction this serious is utterly deranged. There’s a chance these kids won’t be physically “normal” ever again. Heartbreaking and infuriating.
@ Maxwell: at this point in their careers both Stewart and Colbert are actors. Why do you think otherwise? And how is Dore different? Probably the pendulum has swung too far, but I’ll stay on my side of the pendulum until someone (good lord, anyone!!!) shows me something that’s worthy of swinging back toward the middle.
