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@ Bill7: Thanks. I though that the first time I watched that clip. I didn’t bother looking into it because it wasn’t worth my time, but “Stewart-ColbertCon” (whatever that actually is!) sums it up well. I’m a bit shocked no one else pegged it. Have we really sunk that far???
@ Archie: yup, Carlin would be proud of Hopkins. Except Hopkins’ presentation isn’t so funny as Carlin’s was. 😉
PS, not an expert and won’t bother researching this, but I’m pretty sure live TV isn’t actually “live”, even when it has an audience. So … the Colbert and Stewart exchange, the producers could have revised that if they wanted. They are testing the waters to see public reaction. (Omg, I’m becoming Dr D)
Here’s my problem with Jimmy Dore: where was he before it became “ok” to talk about all this stuff? NOW (last few years, whatever) he rails against Bernie Sanders, TYT, AOC, Colbert, Biden, Harris, blah blah blah. NOW he makes comments about vaccinations because he is personally experiencing side effects. I’ll sound like Dr D with my cynicism on this but … Colbert and Stewart both had lines. They knew what each other’s reaction was going to be. It was agreed ahead of time. Take that as you wish.
@ germ: Bill7’s link (CJ Hopkins) is a very important article for all of us. Parts of Europe are spiraling out of control, but NY isn’t a la la land of freedom, either. Depressing. Still not sure what we can do about it? I’m not vaccinated, have never been tested, don’t wear masks. AND??????
@ germ: mass electronic surveillance on phones …
I have an iphone7, checked it after seeing your link and, lo and behold, there’s an”exposure notification” app for covid on it (buried in settings, no icon to show its presence). A quick online search indicates it’s likely been there since last fall on iPhones. I haven’t received any notifications from the app. Probably because I long ago turned off location tracking services and wifi. But … I’ve never downloaded an app on this phone, have not set up iCloud (which the phone never lets me forget), and never set up a password to access any apple “services” (aka, sales). The exposure notification app must have been downloaded as part of a software update, without permission. Now I’m wondering if I need a faraday bag for the darned thing. Do faraday bags really work if you buy one of decent quality?
Jeez, Bill7, why can’t CA keep up? NY already has a digital vaccine pass in place. Maybe CA’s top idiots should contact NY’s top idiots so CA can skip some of these needless, time consuming, interim steps.
Thank you, thomasj, needed to hear that from somewhere other than inside my own head. Chin up, carry on.
Dr D: ““Stocks fall on Powell threat to (maybe) raise rates a tiny bit TWO YEARS from now …”
I saw that yesterday and had to read the sentence a few times, think about what year we are currently in (2021), convince myself the year 2023 wasn’t a typo, then reread how little the rate would be raised … ??
Alice, my dear, we ain’t in wonderland anymore.
This …
Oroboros: “Vaccine passports are psychological instruments of humiliation.”
Django: “Masks are a humiliation and an insult to our intelligence.”
Bill: “NC- we only see the comments its proprietors allow through (more dissent allowed now there than before- perhaps to regain some useful credibility).” Regain some useful credibility? Or … they need more donations so are relaxing their borders a bit. Lol. I enjoyed that site in the past and used to donate.
Mr House: won’t personally spend time on NC … but how is IM Doc’s comment being received there? That’s a pretty bold statement. Thank you for cross posting.
ctbarnum: “I graduated with a masters in Industrial/Organizational Psychology in 2019 (right before COVID hit the US), but that goes in a lot of directions with types of research, both quantitative and qualitative.”
Good golly, please just stop buying into the mainstream narrative (said with deep affection, believe me) about what you “can do with” your degree. I have an AS, credits toward a BS (got close!). I’ve earned a boatload of money writing grants.
ctbarnum: go search “remote” grant writer jobs (FT, PT, contract) so you can avoid employment required vaccination. You’ve achieved more degree than I have, believe me. With the right degree they’ll hire you even if you haven’t written grants, assuming you can write grammatically correct sentences and organize a “sales” pitch properly. That’s all a grant application is … a business plan wrapped up in a sales pitch. Slanting the stats? No brainer. Trust me. 🙂
Bill7: to be honest? I didn’t notice NC link origination prior to my exit. I used to skim headlines and when one interested me, I clicked it. There would be a few I would click, read, then head to the comments because those were interesting. Then in 2017 Charlottesville happened and the “bars” on conversation at NC slammed shut. Craazyman tried to point out that a lone psycho doesn’t drive the conversation for the people who believe their statues/history are worth fighting for. He got banned. I left post haste. Hats off you’ve stayed.
hi ctbarnum, good to see you back on here: I’ve been getting paid a lot of money to write grants for almost 30 years. I know how to manipulate statistics inside and out to make the case for whichever client is paying me. Don’t trust any statistics or polls you hear. 😉
ctbarnum: in all my decades of being a taxpayer, registered voter, jury duty participant, etc., I’ve been polled exactly ONCE on anything, and it was in the fall leading up to the 2016 election – which presidential candidate would I cast a vote for? A [cell] phone conversation went basically like this (shortened a bit to avoid boring everyone):
Pollster: are you planning to vote
Me: yes
Pollster: are you voting for Turmp or Clinton?
Me: I’m not voting for Trump or Clinton
Pollster: so you’re Undecided
Me: No, I’m not undecided. There are other candidates running. I’m voting for a different candidate
Pollster: So you’re Undecided
Me: No, that’s not correct. (getting frustrated at this point). What about the other candidates? I’m voting for a different candidate, not Trump or Clinton. Why can’t I select a different candidate?
Pollster: I’ll mark you as undecided. Hangs up.
Take that as personal experience of polling, if you will. I was shocked (call me stupidly naive) prior to this incident. Polls are useless. We need to quit paying attention.
Mr House: “This is total bullshit, and these symptoms will continue to change over time.” That’s so old school. These days symptoms are not needed. All of us make people sick even when we DON’T have symptoms. What’s this “symptoms continue to change” nonsense that you are criticizing? /s
Germ: “Once you’ve been jabbed you have to convince yourself that you’ve made the right choice. The alternative, and the reality, is simply too awful to contemplate.” Agreed. I can’t imagine how that feels.
Bill7: “I said something at NC several years ago about “the narrowing walls of the cattle-chute.” And you weren’t banned? Were you forced to grovel?
Absolute: the NYT Newsletter would be humorous if it weren’t for the fact people are falling for it lock, stock and barrel.
May the gods help us. Maybe that’s something to consider … going back to the native roots (what’s the PC term now … Indigenous?) Maybe the indigenous people got more than one thing over on us. Just sayin’
I’m thinking we need a stronger term than “cognitive dissonance” as a descriptor at this point. My vote: “irreconcilable differences”.
I listened to an interview with a gun rights activist a few weeks ago. Intelligent guy, an attorney who passed the bar. He said something that stuck with me. Paraphrasing: “we’ve got to stop calling politicians our leaders. They aren’t our leaders. They’re our representatives that we voted in. They work for us.”
Change the language. Shift consciousness. Alter trajectory. Change outcome. Just saying …
I believe there’s a “critical mass of” dissenters. Let’s go back to discussing “trusting the numbers”. How many are vaccinated? How do we trust that number? How many surveyed unvaxxed are likely to get vaxxed in the future? How do we trust that number? I’m just saying, ya gotta have faith. Ages ago I remember reading something along the lines of faith being a belief in something even when there is no real reason to do so. I’m coming down on the side of faith. It’s one of my favorite words. That and the word grace, another favorite. My favorite-est word ever, though, is conundrum. 😉
Bill, my bet for second place finish in this BS is balkanization, in which case I’m living in the wrong state. I wonder, though, if lots of people move to FL will the weight of them sink large portions of the land mass into the ocean? Btw, I enjoy your comments. They’re usually a bit “out there”, suits my brain.
Doc R: “When California reopens next week, fully vaccinated colleagues working in a room together will be allowed to work maskless. But if one person is unvaccinated, everyone in the room will need to wear a mask.“
Ha ha ha ha ha … I’d be the one unvaxxed person in the group, smirking behind my mask the entire time. Piss off co-workers? Why not. I remember reading an article years ago about Jeff Foxworthy (redneck comedian) and how he was “laughing all the way to the bank.” Yeah, kinda like that. You go, Jeff.
Bill: “One of the most pertinent questions, as I see it: will the Few be able to kill off or effectively silence
a critical mass of dissenters against their carefully designed, neo-feudal dystopia …”I’ll continue to place my bet on “no”, the Few won’t silence dissenters. I refuse to believe it. Go check out Oracle’s videos of UK protests. Impressive. The US is much larger and diverse (diff states, diff covaxx rules) so it’s kind of like firing up multiple engines and propelling a really big ship before we’ll see that kind of reaction, but if the idiots keep pushing that reaction will occur. At least, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Bill7, can’t disagree with anything you said in “ah jus caint figger” comment. But … to what end? Depopulation? Seriously? Doing it on this scale would be evil incarnate. I’m having trouble wrapping my head around that. Maybe I ridiculously trusting and naive.
Doc Robinson: yes, parents are vaccinating their kids due to fear, but I’m tired of giving adults an easy out on this. They need to grow TF up. Mother hiking with 6 year daughter happens across a bear … of course she’s scared, but does she start running knowing her daughter can’t keep up so the bear will get her kid and she’ll be safe? Idk, maybe she does, in which case I guess we’re looking at Darwin’s law. Parent is a stupid, fearful idiot, child dies. (apologies for the rant, getting pissed and have lost the “kindness and understanding” I’m supposed to show others, because now we’re messing with our kids. there is no excuse.)
Dr D: “the panic + the vaccine still doesn’t fit right. It’s disturbing.” Agree 100%. The difference between reality and what is happening is rattling me. There has been a wholesale global capture of nearly every governmental decision from the very start of this. I can’t figure it. That’s the unsettling part … just what IS this? Averting collapse? (oil, etc, etc) Maybe, but even that doesn’t fit quite right. A highly coordinated psyop to accomplish …. what exactly???
Injecting children with covid vaccines is child abuse, clear and simple. We are injecting them with a substance that has:
– a solid track record of failure in previous research with animals
– no long-term study of side effects and very shoddy mid- to short-term studies of side effects
– a growing number of studies showing how and why it is harming people (diffusing throughout body; spike proteins cause damage)
– a [now] clear record of causing adverse events, which sometimes are serious or disabling
– a [now] clear record of causing deathNot sure how anyone with a thinking brain or even half a heart could even consider doing this to our children.
Noirette, I was thinking along the same lines yesterday evening (young children deciding to get vaccinated / young children deciding to reassign gender). Maybe it’s this: “Munchausen syndrome by proxy is a mental illness and a form of child abuse. The caretaker of a child, most often a mother, either makes up fake symptoms or causes real symptoms to make it look like the child is sick. No one is sure what causes Munchausen syndrome by proxy.” Of course, with the covid vaccines the child is “asymptomatic” and shows little to no sign of disease so it appears it’s getting easier and easier to practice this particular form of child abuse.
This covid mRNA vaccination of kids is tremendously disturbing. I’d come to terms with adults deciding (even without full informed consent) that they want to risk death/disability by getting the injection, but if it becomes mandatory for children to have the vaccine to attend school most parents will be forced to vaccinate their children since they will be unable to “home school” to avoid it. Especially parents who are not in the top 10%, income wise, where both parents have to work. Worse, if they release flu vaccines using mRNA technology children will be getting vaccinated multiple times with a dangerous substance. Serious question … how do us lowly know-nothings fight something that is this corrupt and powerful?
Raul, I’m with you. I see nothing but pure evil. The world has gone stark raving mad. The only logical explanation at this point is a highly coordinated psyop. Frightening, and oh so sad.
I recently found this summary at the Bad Medicine website (dr-no.co.uk) that belongs to a retired medical doctor:
“It is as well to remember that the engine of the pandemic, and the reaction to it, has been driven almost entirely by testing. Imagine for a moment no one had discovered SARS-CoV-2, and so no one was testing for it. We would have an unexpected and unusual (and it has to be said unexplained) rise in mortality last spring, and then a rather worse than usual bad flu winter this winter, but no worse than those going back twenty years or so. But no testing, no pandemic, no lockdowns, no masks, no vaccines, no authoritarianism, no ruined economy, no ruined education, no huge backlog of NHS elective and semi-urgent work, no ruined social fabric, not even one of them. Perhaps as well as being careful what we ask for, we should also be careful what we test for.”
@Mister Roboto: “So I guess that means that we will never really be rid of that godawful 2016 Election until something truly terrible happens and makes everybody forget that horseshit.”
Turn off the TV. Horseshit gone.
Great … Dr D has Daisy Jane playing in my head incessantly. Thanks, Dr D. 😉
Germ, I use NAC most days. I stocked up since there’s some puff up that it might be pulled as a supplement. It works on several levels. Also stocked up on Vit D, K2 and the others recently. And toilet paper (that was a joke)
@ my parents: agree with you on SSRIs. I don’t like taking meds that affect my brain, including some of the pain killers. At one point I was prescribed an oxy derivative for back pain and took literally one pill. Felt like my brain and body were detached. Hated it. Threw out the rest of the script. Should have sold it I suppose.
Edit to #76875: head covid off at the pass by DIRECTLY vaccinating eggs and sperm? Good golly that’s brilliant!!! Contact Gates. He perhaps hasn’t thought of this option yet.
@Polder Dweller: “That’s like here in Holland where the guidelines say you should get just one jab if you’ve had Covid or two if you want to.”
That’s like requesting one lump or two of sugar in your coffee/tea, as if a decision about sugar lumps and a decision about vaccination are in the same league. You can’t be serious … are you?
