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Participant@ Dave Note
I suspect that you know that the use of all “… ism” is a weapon.that is used by the manipulators.zerosum
ParticipantUpdate (1100ET)::
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/more-400-million-people-lockdown-guangzhou-joins-quarantineThis is bad news for airlines, casinos and virtually every business (restaurants, bars any other business) in the nightlife or entertainment fields. A team of German scientists have determined that the coronavirus can survive for up to 9 days on a surface.
That’s bad news, because it means the virus, which was recently discovered to have some genetic markers in common with HIV, is much more hardy than the common flu.
(the common flu can survive 24 hrs., HIV can survive for 6 days)
3 provinces, 60 cities and 400 million people are now facing China’s most-strict level of lockdown as Beijing struggles to contain the coronavirus outbreak as the virus has already spread to more than 2 dozen countries.zerosum
ParticipantHahahaha. Now I understand the logic.
If its not coming out of my pocket, then spend it. The result sky high cost of health care. Nobody controls costs.
• Ohio Pension System Slashes Health-Care Benefits To Stave Off Insolvency (ZH)
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The result of capitalism. You end up with some people getting more than other people.
Don’t believe me? Pay an enabler to check out the statistics.
• Seven In 10 Greeks Threatened By Poverty (K.)
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Oppps
There does exist studies.
• Can We Have Prosperity Without Growth? (New Yorker)
He says no.
I say, look around you the degrowth is happening
First lower the population.
Then the production goes down.
After that, what is being produced is being shared by fewer people.
Therefore, there is more for everyone left.
At the extreme, the last man standing owns everything. hehehehe
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A lot of people know what to do but they are not the ones making the decisions.
Keep the oil. Make and ship finished oil derived products.• Canada To Aid Alberta As Deadline For Massive Oil Sands Project Nears (R.)
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“So why no reporting of one of the biggest vectors of disease spreading: children and students? ”My first impression was that China was making “a test of the emergency response system”
Then
something went wrong
However,
CRUISE SHIP NIGHTMARE
THESE ARE THE NUMBERS TO WATCH
These numbers will be hard to lie about to determine if it was a test that went wrong.zerosum
Participant“China shut itself down … a slight of hand”???
Only in China
My first impression was “a test of the emergency response system”
Then
something went wrongzerosum
ParticipantCRUISE SHIP NIGHTMARE
THESE ARE THE NUMBERS TO WATCH
These numbers will be hard to lie about.zerosum
ParticipantIOWA RESULTS
Recanvase?
The result will be Biden first, with the support of Hillary.
Because Hillary said,” First, Pick the one that can beat Trump, secondly the one that has experience to govern.”
Geeee!
I figure that if Biden cannot govern then the V.P. (heheh Hilary) will step in with her experience.
Do you want another democratic idea for president? Nancy + Hillaryzerosum
ParticipantA couple of questions
1. Survival rate vs death rate
2. Immunity vs re-infectionI used to get the yearly flue. Yes, I know, it was a different flue every year. Did the old flue die out? Or was I immune to the old flue?
Did having gotten those flue affect my immune system and made me less of a target for the new flues coming every year?This flue still has not reached the death toll of the regular flue. In la-la-land the annual death from the flue is said to be 10,000 per year ???
The regular flue kills the old, weak, poor. just like the corona virus.
I still don’t know anyone who died from the regular flue.zerosum
ParticipantThere is no need to get Bolton to testify, wait until March and buy his book.
If there is anything in his book that the voters don’t like then the voter will not vote Trump.zerosum
Participant• Trump-Pelosi Feud Erupts During SOTU As Impeachment Trial Nears End (R.)
I’m not seeing what Trump is seeing.
Trump is in LA-LA-LANDThe USA stock market is not afraid of the coronavirus.
The printing press is more powerful than the coronavirus.zerosum
ParticipantIf you thought that only poor, dirty, elderly, sick, people who don’t wash their hand would get the virus, then think again. Who can afford to go on a cruise ship? I’ll give you a clue. Naw, I’ll let you figure out how rich you got to be to go on a cruise.
Oppps. Maybe you forgot to be nice to that poor waiter serving you a bowl of soup.
I hate to say, “I told you” ……• Cruise Ship Carrying 3,700 Quarantined In Japan After 10 Test Positive (G.)
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“We’re not even allowed to open the cabin door to go down the corridor. They bring the food to us – it’s a knock on the door. For the first time ever the crew are masked up,” he said. [..] Two Australians are among the 10 people who have tested positive, the cruise company Carnival confirmed. The other people infected are three Japanese, three from Hong Kong, one American and one Filipino crewmember. The patients, who are reportedly aged in their 50s to their 80s, were being removed from the ship by the coast guard and taken to local hospitals. The ship’s owner, Princess Cruises, said 3,711 people were aboard the ship, consisting of 2,666 guests and 1,045 crew. About half of the passengers are from Japan, with 223 Australians on the vessel.
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Canadians are still stuck and facing delays in leaving China.
Pretty soon, we wont see any planes in the air.• Cathay Pacific Asks All 27,000 Employees To Take 3 Weeks Unpaid Leave (SCMP)
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Cruise ships tied up. Plane grounded.
What!!!!
Oil sales are down. Carbon pollution is down.zerosum
ParticipantLA-LA-LAND – Trump
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ParticipantIf Joe isn’t a political opponent, does that mean that its okay to investigate Joe’s son for corruption in the Ukraine?
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ParticipantSomething is wrong with the numbers
Only Chinese have been declared dead from the coronavirus.
Canadians are still stuck in the epicenter of the coronavirus waiting to get infected and thereby become transmission vectors.
Canadians will be fighting to get a 14 day all paid vacation in an army base in Trenton.
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ParticipantProgress
• Chinese Military Takes Control Of Medical Supplies In Wuhan (SCMP)
Of course.
That is the only way to prevent profiteering by those not in the military establishment.—–
“My estimate is that Bernie Sanders won Iowa,
Here comes Hillary to be nominated as his V.P. ( Needed to balance his out-of-reach-ideas)zerosum
ParticipantOPPPS! There are other flues
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/4-plagues-are-marching-across-asia-simultaneously-coronavirus-african-swine-fever-h5n1-bird
February 2, 2020 by Michael Snyder
Meanwhile, three other plagues have also been marching across Asia, and most people in the western world don’t even realize that this is happening. What I am about to share with you in this article is quite chilling, and the months ahead will be very dark if these plagues continue to spread.
Coronavirus,,,, African Swine Fever,… H5N1 Bird Flu… And H1N1 Swine FluIt has been estimated that one out of every four pigs in the entire world has already died, and this crisis is far from over.
According to the Reuters report, Chinese authorities have already culled 17,828 poultry in the wake of the outbreak.
Unlike African Swine Fever, humans can become infected by the H5N1 bird flu.
And according to the World Health Organization, the mortality rate for human cases is approximately 60 percent.
So let us hope that this current outbreak remains limited to chickens.
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Participanthahahahaha!
He must be the lone survivor of the coronavirus, dancing with joy.zerosum
ParticipantThe number are 10,000 out of 13,000,000
I encounter some of those 13,000,000
I survived the encounter 🙂zerosum
Participantlatest
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Screen%20Shot%202020-02-03%20at%205.29.33%20PM.png?itok=gBAgvB_F
USA seasonal flue will produce about 10,000 deathps I never knew anyone dying from the seasonal flue
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ParticipantDid THEY do this to reduce air pollution?
Canadian gov.is still having to overcome extra barriers to give free transport vacation to Canadians to go back to Canada and to spent 14 day free vacation in a Canadian army base.
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ParticipantUpdate (1720ET): It’s early Tuesday morning and China, which means we’re getting another batch of statistics about the coronavirus outbreak – statistics that likely underplay the severity of the outbreak.
According to Chinese health authorities, 2,345 were confirmed on Monday, while another 64 died (including 48 in Wuhan alone).
Hubei Province is now reporting 13,522 cases of coronavirus infection (including 6384 in Wuhan), while 58,544 are under observation across China.
For those who are keeping score at home, that’s a 18% rise in deaths overnightzerosum
ParticipantOh my god ….
Oral transmission , fecal transmission , then what ….it becomes a venereal diseasezerosum
ParticipantRemember?
AIDS scare was, its only affects gay people, not my problem.
Wrong bet.
CORONAVIRUS scare is only poor, dirty, old, sick, people, not my problem.
Place your bet:get on your private jet, solve the problems, ignore the problems, prepare for the worst.
Watch the entertainment presented in la-la-landzerosum
ParticipantSerious action …. save the poor street people …. do a clean up
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/i-cant-let-my-mom-die-home-desperate-patients-swarm-wuhan-hospital-hong-kong-closesUpdate (1140AM ET): The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the US is starting to increase at a concerning pace, and moments ago, the CDC confirmed in a telebriefing that there are 11 cases in the US.
U.S. CDC CONFIRMS 11 CONFIRMED CORONAVIRUS CASES IN UNITED STATES – TELEBRIEFING
More ominously, the CDC said that the new Coronavirus case is close contact of other California case, and was spread person-to-person.And while traders were not happy with this latest confirmation that the disease is anything but contained, it is what the CDC aid said next that sent stocks and yields both sliding:
CDC: PREPARING AS IF CORONAVIRUS WERE THE NEXT PANDEMIC
Judging by the market reaction, it appears that algos are not fans of that word.
( dow at +189 at 12:50)
Finally, the CDC also said at its briefing that it has added four more airports for screening of Coronavirus.—–
If you believe why the coronavirus is spreading is due to filth, poverty, poor health, poor housing, no private sanitary system then hurry up and help the poor street people in all the cities.
If you don’t remove the street people problem then, I ask, “Do you believe that the coronavirus will take care of the problem for you AND leave you free of the coronavirus?”zerosum
ParticipantWinner: Quote of the year
RussiaRussiaRussia. It will never end. Let me ask you a question: if all it takes is a couple bots to win an election, why doesn’t Biden do it? Is he too stupid or too lazy? Somehow Russia can do it for $10k but the DNC can’t, having access to the same accounts and information for $1B. Huh.
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ParticipantThere is no treatment for any/all kind of flues
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/i-cant-let-my-mom-die-home-desperate-patients-swarm-wuhan-hospital-hong-kong-closes
Supply shortages are still making it impossible for China to diagnose every case of the virus.Ms. An, 67, needed an official diagnosis from a hospital to qualify for treatment, but the one she and her son raced to last week had no space, even to test her. The next hospital they were referred to here in Wuhan, the city of 11 million people at the center of the outbreak, was full,
Now, many residents say it is nearly impossible to get the health care they need to treat – or even diagnose – the coronavirus.
Expressing exasperation, doctors say there is a shortage of testing kits and other medical supplies, and it is not clear why more are not available.
For many sickened residents, their best hope is the new coronavirus hospital that has just been finished (a second hospital is also being built).
Those who do make it to the hospital say they are squeezed together for hours in waiting rooms, where infections are easily spread. But the shortages have meant that many are ultimately turned away and sent home to self-quarantine, potentially compounding the outbreak by exposing their families.
Many doctors and residents are putting their hopes on the two new coronavirus hospitals that China has been racing to build in Wuhan in just a matter of days. One of them spans about eight acres, has 1,000 beds and is scheduled to open on Monday. The government says 1,400 military medical workers will be deployed to work there, potentially helping with the shortage of health professionals on hand to combat the outbreak.
On Sunday, city officials announced plans to set up quarantine stations around Wuhan for people with symptoms of pneumonia and close contacts among coronavirus patients.
Members of the G-7 will hold an emergency call on Monday to discuss strategies for containing the outbreak.
Get ready for another week of virus-induced craziness as this doesn’t look ready to disappear from the headlines any time soon.
Best recommendation:
Stay home take an aspirin, drink waterzerosum
ParticipantPLACE YOUR BETS
dow up +360 points (10:30 ET)
“More than 2,500 stocks (asia) fell by the daily limit of 10%.”
• Virus Worries Wipe $420 Billion Off China’s Stock Market (R.)
• Chinese Shares Drop 9% (G.)HELP IS COMMING TO THE NEEDY
China’s central bank will pump 150 billion yuan ($21.7 billion) into markets, and has banned short selling on Monday to prevent a sell-off.Can anyone point out someone who lost their money/shirt?
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ParticipantUpdate (1900ET): According to the latest daily update from the Chinese CDC, there are now 17,205 confirmed cases across China, a jump of 2,829 overnight – the biggest daily increase since the epidemic started – with another 181 cases abroad. Global fatalities increased to 362, with the daily increase of 58 also the biggest since the pandemic started, although as noted previously, China has been resorting to various measures to mask and hide the true number of corona casualties. The number of cured or discharged patients rose to 475.
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ParticipantHELP IS COMMING TO THE NEEDY
China’s central bank will pump 150 billion yuan ($21.7 billion) into markets, and has banned short selling on Monday to prevent a sell-off.zerosum
Participanthttps://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-warns-countries-should-prepare-local-outbreaks-pentagon-readies-quarantine-housing
Second Case Of Coronavirus Declared In California As NYT Suggests Pandemic
Update: Santa Clara County health officials on Sunday afternoon have confirmed a second coronavirus case, reported KRON 4 News.Officials said this is unrelated to the first case that was confirmed on Friday.
KRON 4 News said health officials would hold a news conference at 2 p.m. to inform the public about the new case.
The confirmed case is a woman who recently traveled to Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak. Officials have so far said, she arrived in the U.S. on Jan. 23 to visit family during the Chinese New Year.Officials are unclear on her exact movements and how many people she could have infected.
Her family was also quarantined on concerns they have contracted the deadly virus.
The first case was confirmed in Santa Clara County on Friday, was a man who recently traveled to Wuhan.
This is the ninth confirmed case in the U.S., with cases expected to rise in the days and or weeks ahead.
Earlier on Sunday, The New York Times suggested coronavirus “looks increasingly like a pandemic…”
“It’s very, very transmissible, and it almost certainly is going to be a pandemic,” said Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease. “But will it be catastrophic? I don’t know.”
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ParticipantWho is doing the counting Who is adding up the totals
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-warns-countries-should-prepare-local-outbreaks-pentagon-readies-quarantine-housing
Coronavirus Latest: WHO Warns “Prepare For Local Outbreaks” As 20 French Evacuees From Wuhan Exhibit SymptomsUpdate (1500ET): According to AFP, 20 French citizens evacuated from Wuhan, China have symptoms of Coronavirus. Earlier in the day, officials said that when the flight left Wuhan, none of the passengers had symptoms of coronavirus. They include French, Belgians, Dutch, Danes, Czechs, Slovaks and some citizens of African countries, the Associated Press reported. The happens as around 500 people, including hospital staff, form a human chain in front of the Robert Debré Hospital in Paris to denounce a lack of resources in French public hospitals.
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ParticipantEverything is under control.
Travelling should only be by private jets.
Street people might be more resistant than the rich who have private toilets, sinks, showers.
There are a lot of people in China, India, Africa, Philippines, who don’t have private indoor plumbing.
Treat your live in servant and cook properly to avoid coughing on your soup.
——Did you figure out the problem/make the link ….
Canada has ???? under house arrest for the USA
China has arrested 2 Canadians
China has allowed other countries to fly their citizens home.
Why does Canada finds all kind of road blocks to fly their citizens out of China?zerosum
ParticipantI win the prediction. (Go check my comment history)
• Is Hillary Clinton Angling To Become Vice President?zerosum
ParticipantYou two got me laughing so hard, I can’t type, tears in my eyes.
If China can do it for free, then the USA navy can do it for free, and do it better.zerosum
ParticipantUSA is preparing 1,000 bed hospital
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a30731622/us-military-coronavirus/Finally, the Navy has two hospital ships, USNS Mercy and USNS Comfort. The Navy describes each ship as having:
“…12 fully-equipped operating rooms, a 1,000 bed hospital facility, digital radiological services, a medical laboratory, a pharmacy, an optometry lab, a CAT-scan and two oxygen producing plants. Each ship is equipped with a helicopter deck capable of landing large military helicopters. The ships also have side ports to take on patients at sea. When fully operational, the hospital ships have a crew of about 71 civilians and up to 1,200 Navy medical and communications personnel.”zerosum
Participant” Saudi Arabia …. Once we subdue the population enough”
How is that going to happen?
Last I hear their prison was in a 5* hotel that only required part of their fortune so that they could be released to go out and grow their fortunes even more.zerosum
ParticipantConsumers have stopped shopping. Workers are not going to work. There is only expenses. Reduce expenses.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/second-chinese-city-bars-residents-leaving-their-homes-hong-kong-workers-demand-city#comment_stream
“Apple is closing ALL stores, corporate offices, and contact centers in China due to Coronavirus through Feb. 9, company says in statement. “zerosum
ParticipantHow good are the manipulators
Even with a printing press at their command ….
They can only help themselves
They cannot help everyone, or save the system.
Best quote: We know he’s dirty: he’s a politician.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/calm-storm-how-will-coronavirus-really-impact-markets
“Don’t take the recent lack of ‘news’ as meaning the threat from this virus is dying down.”What!!! You must be distracter by the “impeachment show”
The coronavirus has all the hallmarks of a true Black Swan event.
Yes. Nobody wants to be first to get out of the market and leave money on the table.
Besides, there is a super bowl party on Sunday.
Then there is the Iowa caucus.
Geessss
Its probably better than the “bread and circus” of the Romans.In the US, healthcare costs are the #1 economic threat to households. More families go bankrupt due to our predatory and inhumane medical care system that any other cause.
In China its FREE coronavirus health care so people are going for treatment.
In the USA, going for a sniffle is going to bankrupt you. Will it be a 5% death rate or more?
Will the poor and the street people have a better or worst chance of survival then the insured driven into poverty?
Go ahead, throw the dice, you only got 5% chance of losing.zerosum
Participant@ WES
I’m told that wisdom comes with age.
I glad not to be making decisions.
🙂Also, like the slot machines,95%, if the coronavirus takes 5% of the population, it will be years, if ever, before the remaining 95% will be able to get over the trama.
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ParticipantNews reporters are in short supply.
Too may are printing before verifying if its true.zerosum
ParticipantUpdates: are on youtubes
Go look at the videos.
Coronavirus: how China builds two hospitals at top speed at the heart of the virus outbreak
Tell me if its all propaganda.
Could your gov. be able to accomplish this.
Will our society have a better response -
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