Debt Rattle January 3 2019

 

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    Gerard Dou A woman playing a clavichord 1665   • $55 Billion Wiped Off Apple Value As China Slowdown Takes Toll (G.) • China’s Economy Deteriorat
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 3 2019]

    #44668
    V. Arnold
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    As we use focusing on the dark side of the moon and the farthest reaches of the galaxy to evade reality, and Britain uses a few handfuls of migrants to not be forced to talk about Brexit, China uses Apple and Apple uses China to turn attention away from actual issues.

    And my next phone will be a Huawei

    And China did in fact land a rover on the dark side of the moon.
    First ever to do so…
    The US hegmon needs to wake up to the fact it’s not the latest greatest tech on this planet!
    Kudos to China; an epic event…

    #44669
    Dr. D
    Participant

    China is a lot stronger and better than reported, and their rules are substantially different from ours, even as we also have complete top-down central planning and merger of corporation and state. However, this economy is biting them now. It’s over the event horizon and happening. Hang on for the ride because they have broad social unrest even when pulling 200M out of poverty. Imagine when 100M go back.

    May and Corbyn have inside information. Imagine what would happen if they reversed the referendum and THEN Europe fell. They’d be tarred and feathered double. Can’t say that IS happening, but they DO have inside access, probably scenario-planning run on AI supercomputers, and have to play the highest probability hand.

    “if they mean by the word partisan that it is New Yorkers and Washingtonians against the rest of the country then they are right.”

    But now when a reporter reports it, it’s fake, not true? Or is it true and we don’t care? I think when your own people like the NYT editor tell you you’re lying, biased, and ruining all credibility in the press and the broader U.S., you’d take a step back. But no. That’s not how moral panics and Red Scares operate. …Later no one will ever have been fooled or involved in the present Red Scare. Nope. Just like McCarthy and Eugenics, they will all have been on the side of the angels, and this thing that now has 80% support among the intellegensia will be that only a couple people, and actually they all spoke up and warned us. Guarantee. And since they write both the papers and the history books, it will become true, in the truest sense of truthiness.

    So what does this man say about the moral panic he wants to remove himself from? “Of course [Trump] is an ignorant and incompetent impostor.” …Yes, that the moral panic is all true and justified! I’m sorry, but have you looked at the dictionary definition of “imposter”? I believe there is no possible interpretation where that could be true. He’s been in public for 50 years. We know who he is, and have always known. Pretty sure the guy there now is not an alien lizard or robotic body double. …Or IS that what you’re alleging? Why not? Everything else is being said.

    “Vladimir Putin Has Replaced Trump with a Remote-Controlled Robotic Android! Says NBC Reporter!” He’s an imposter.

    One thing about moral panics: they sure have no logic.

    What’s a class D weapon in France? A spork? (Prettymuch, it includes pepper spray) Nevertheless, if you know you are organizing/participating in violent protests, the police will be targeting you. Be sure it’s worthwhile. It was easy to know they were lying because they used the “Class D” name instead of “fireworks sparkler”, “Christmas Cracker”, or “50 caliber minigun”, something real. So, so easy. Was it on a page? Yes? Then it was a lie. QED

    #44670
    Polder Dweller
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    If a new referendum were to be organized, I think it very likely that a majority of British would now vote to remain. Nevertheless, there would still be a substantial number of leave voters. I don’t see them just shrugging their shoulders and suddenly becoming happy EU burghers. That genie will not go back in the bottle and I think it’s naïve of the remainers to think it will. What thar might mean is anyone’s guess, but a resistance model is already out there in the form of yellow vests.

    Corbyn cannot accept staying in the EU as that would prevent him from carrying out the major social and economic reforms he plans.

    #44671
    DrCiber
    Participant

    Re:Arkin leaving NBC

    PLEASE, spare us the farce of taking this clown seriously. Clearly he takes himself WAY too seriously, and just as clearly his WAY TOO LONG apologia about his years of uselessness working on the inside of the hologram machine reveals more clearly than anything just how far out of contact with the real world the “news” media and the people that make it up (pun intended) are. The bubble they live and breath in is impenetrable bycommon sense. The overload isn’t information overload for chrissakes, it’s DISinformation overload as any idiot can see (except those idiots, their paychecks depend on them not seeing it) If the man had any ethics, any scruples at all, instead of spending thousands of words putting lipstick on the pig of his years and years at NBC & MSNBC, he’d have quit within two months of his initial hire.

    #44672
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “In the new scheme, rather than a council deciding, a final decision will rest on a local referendum.
    Waste… includes around 112 tonnes – the world’s biggest stockpile – of plutonium, the most poisonous substance ever created.”

    A decision of such magnitude being decided by a local referendum, where votes are anonymous and a “put the nuclear waste here” outcome could still be opposed by a near-majority of locals? Bad politicians can be voted out of office, but there’s no option for taking the nuclear waste back out of the ground if the locals don’t want it anymore.

    #44673
    zerosum
    Participant

    Billions of $ have been lost.
    The poor didn’t find those billions. 🙂

    Every one else had food on the table for the holidays!
    There were no rich people jumping off the roof.

    #44674
    seychelles
    Participant

    Liked the shared Bella Lack vid-cartoon. Do you have a linki? Am sure the vast majority of the readership figured out long ago that the arduous climb to the top of the mountain made no sense if you looked back and saw that you were standing on a gigantic pile of s**t.

    #44675

    Seychelles,

    Only link I got is “https://twitter.com/i/status/1080512542299033602”, posted by @BellaLack and/or @DanteArcana

    #44676
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Here’s the full video (with unexpected ending) from the artist’s channel:

    #44677
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Raúl Ilargi wrote, “There is no solution for nuclear waste.”

    Depends on the technology used. Thorium-based reactors seem to be t he way ahead. One was operating successfully at Oak Ridge in California in 1968. Closed perhaps because it did not produce plutonium for weaponry as a by-product.

    China is OF COURSE busily doing the R&D needed to resuscitate it.

    #44678
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Excellent point Doc Robinson, it seems so responsible to put the waste away for 200,000 years, however, that means the present townfolk are making irreversible decisions for 10,000 generations out, a new record in hubris.

    They CAN use this in breeder reactors and other tech, but that’s not exactly safe either. I’d say, burn it up methodically and STOP MAKING IT. The French also have some waste solutions, but as with anything 200,000 years out, it needs some long-term examination.

    #44679
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    Yesterday, there was a discussion here of the MH-17 shoot down. This was the first case of the fake news breaking into my consciousness. National statements broadcast without any factual backing at all. We, the people, played as marks. The Elite’s forever wars spread into Ukraine. The Cold War that I served in restarted. Donald Trump became the “Other” who drives media ratings. I can’t say it any better than Bill Arkin; “NBC just began emulating the national security state itself – busy and profitable. No wars won but the ball is kept in play.”

    #44680

    You need to set the size of the video, or you miss a big part of it:

    Or only provide a link to it, so it plays in its own window:

    #44681

    By the way, the problem with guaranteeing the safety of nuke waste for 200,000 years is that no-one can guarantee any such thing. It would be a crazy gamble only.

    #44682
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Thanks Ilargi; wowee zowee; that’s quite the reality blast (video)…

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