May 202019
 


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China Forced Tech Transfer Problem Is Growing – EU Business Group (R.)
US Ban Won’t Derail Huawei’s European 5G Rollout (AT)
Google Starts To Cut Ties With Huawei (AFP)
Huawei Stockpiles 12 Months Of Parts Ahead Of US Ban (Nikkei)
US Prosecutors To ‘Help Themselves’ To Julian Assange’s Possessions (PA)
Swedish Prosecutors Ask To Detain Assange Over Rape Investigation (Ind.)
Skripal Poisoning Suspects Received Mystery Phone Call Following Attack (G.)
Rich White Men Rule America. How Much Longer Will We Tolerate That For? (G.)
Theresa May Prepares ‘Bold’ Last-Ditch Offer To MPs On Brexit Bill (G.)
Corbyn Defends Labour’s Bid For Both Leavers And Remainers (G.)
NHS England Loses 6,000 Mental Health Nurses In 10 Years (G.)

 

 

Europe’s politicians are slow to take this up.

China Forced Tech Transfer Problem Is Growing – EU Business Group (R.)

Cases of European firms forced to transfer technology in China are increasing despite Beijing saying the problem does not exist, a European business lobby said, adding that its outlook on the country’s regulatory environment is “bleak”. China’s trading partners have long complained that their companies are often compelled to hand over prized technology in exchange for access to the world’s second-largest economy. Demands by the United States that China address the problem are central to the two countries’ ongoing trade war, which has seen both sides pile tariffs on billions of dollars of each other’s goods. The European Union Chamber of Commerce in China said on Monday that results from its annual survey showed 20% of members reported being compelled to transfer technology for market access, up from 10% two years ago.

Nearly a quarter of those who reported such transfers said the practice was currently ongoing, while another 39% said the transfers had occurred less than two years ago. “Unfortunately, our members have reported that compelled technology transfers not only persist, but that they happen at double the rate of two years ago,” European Chamber Vice President Charlotte Roule said at a news briefing on the survey. “It might be due to a number of reasons… Either way, it is unacceptable that this practice continues in a market as mature and innovative as China,” Roule said. In certain “cutting edge” industries the incidence of reported transfers was higher, such as 30% in chemicals and petroleum, 28% in medical devices, and 27% in pharmaceuticals, she added.

China’s top Communist Party newspaper, the People’s Daily, said on Saturday that Washington’s complaints on the issue were “fabricated from thin air”. Amid the escalating U.S.-China trade war, Beijing has put pressure on the EU to stand with it against U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade policies, though the world’s largest trade bloc has largely rebuffed those efforts. The EU has also become increasingly frustrated by what it sees as the slow pace of economic opening in China, even after years of granting China almost unfettered access to EU markets for trade and investment. However, European officials say publicly that they do not support the use of tariffs as a solution.

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“So intertwined were the activities of Huawei, Ericsson and Nokia in European telecom infrastructure that it is impossible to ban the sale of parts to one of them without affecting the others..”

US Ban Won’t Derail Huawei’s European 5G Rollout (AT)

Two high-ranking European government officials told Asia Times in background discussions that a US ban on sales of electronic components to Huawei Technologies wouldn’t stop the Chinese telecom firm from rolling out 5G mobile networks in Europe. Europe doesn’t really have a choice in the matter, the officials emphasized in background briefings, because the United States doesn’t offer a competing product, and Huawei’s competitors – Ericsson and Nokia – don’t have the capacity or the knowledge to replace the Chinese giant. The two Scandinavian firms don’t offer serious competition to Huawei, but rather work in close cooperation with the much larger Chinese firm.


Huawei’s research and development budget is roughly double that of Ericsson and Nokia combined, according to public sources. So intertwined were the activities of Huawei, Ericsson and Nokia in European telecom infrastructure that it is impossible to ban the sale of parts to one of them without affecting the others, an official explained. The official, who oversees telecom policy for one of the Group of 10 economies, doubted that Washington’s action would have much impact. German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte told reporters Thursday that they would not ban the Chinese firm, adding that policies were in place to safeguard their security. French President Macron told a technology conference Friday that France’s “perspective is not to block Huawei or any other company. France and Europe are pragmatic and realistic.” Macron stressed that France would balance security with access to good technology.

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What technology will Google use?

Google Starts To Cut Ties With Huawei (AFP)

US internet giant Google, whose Android mobile operating system powers most of the world’s smartphones, said Sunday it was beginning to cut ties with China’s Huawei, which Washington considers a national security threat. In the midst of a trade war with Beijing, President Donald Trump has barred US companies from engaging in telecommunications trade with foreign companies said to threaten American national security. The measure targets Huawei, a Chinese telecoms giant in Washington’s sights that is listed by the Commerce Department among firms with which American companies can only engage in trade after obtaining the green light from the authorities.


The ban includes technology sharing. “We are complying with the order and reviewing the implications,” a Google spokesperson told AFP. The move could have dramatic implications since Google, like all tech companies, must collaborate with smartphone makers to ensure its systems are compatible with their devices. Google will have to halt business activities with Huawei that involve transfer of hardware, software and technical services that are not publicly available — meaning Huawei will only be able to use the open source version of Android, a source close to the matter told AFP. Huawei will no longer have access to Google’s proprietary apps and services, such as the Gmail email service.

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“How do the Chinese think they can win a trade war
when Xi isn’t even on Twitter.

Huawei Stockpiles 12 Months Of Parts Ahead Of US Ban (Nikkei)

Huawei Technologies told global suppliers six months ago it wanted to build up a year of crucial components to prepare for trade war uncertainties, even as it moved to secure new sources and become more self reliant, sources familiar with the plans told the Nikkei Asian Review. Meanwhile, concerns are mounting in Huawei’s Asian tech supply chain about collateral damage from the U.S. government’s move to potentially block American and even foreign companies from doing business with the world’s leading telecom equipment maker, whose global procurement totals around $67 billion a year. Shares in companies whose fortunes depend in part on Huawei business sold off Thursday.

The reaction followed a statement Wednesday by the U.S. Department of Commerce that it was placing the company on a export control list. The listing, once in effect, means that all of Huawei’s American suppliers will require U.S. government approval to sell to the Chinese company. The lack of detail in the statement creates uncertainty for Asian manufacturers. Many important Huawei suppliers in the region including Sony and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. — the world’s largest contract chipmaker — have held internal meetings to assess the implications, multiple sources told Nikkei.

Multiple sources said that Huawei’s preparations for a worst-case scenario – a U.S. ban on business with key suppliers – started more than six months ago and were not limited to chips but spanned a wide range of electronics, including passive components and optical parts. For some components that are subject to higher risks of export controls, Huawei has stockpiled six months’ to more than a year’s worth of supply, while holding at least three months’ worth of less crucial ones, the sources said.

The world’s second-largest smartphone vendor also started at the beginning of this year to certify more suppliers of chips, optical components, camera-related technologies and other parts in places outside the U.S., people familiar with the matter said. “Previously, Huawei would only use the world’s top one or two suppliers for electronic components, but this year it assigned the team to extend the reach to three to four suppliers for each component,” said a source with direct knowledge of the plan. “The most important goal is to avoid the worst case that Huawei’s products in smartphone, servers, and telecom equipment could not be delivered because of a U.S. ban or other trade war uncertainties.”

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WikiLeaks: “Ecuador to hand over Assange’s entire legal defence to the United States.”

Laws are now meaningless.

US Prosecutors To ‘Help Themselves’ To Julian Assange’s Possessions (PA)

Julian Assange’s belongings from his time living in the Ecuadorian embassy in London will be handed over to US prosecutors on Monday, according to WikiLeaks. Ecuadorian officials are travelling to London to allow US prosecutors to “help themselves” to items including legal papers, medical records and electronic equipment, it was claimed. WikiLeaks said UN officials and Assange’s lawyers were being stopped from being present. Lawyers said it was an illegal seizure of property, which has been requested by the US authorities. The material is said to include two of Assange’s manuscripts.

Assange was dragged out of the embassy last month and is serving a 50-week prison sentence for bail violations. He faces an extradition request from the US next month. Kristinn Hrafnsson, the editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks, said: “On Monday, Ecuador will perform a puppet show at the embassy of Ecuador in London for their masters in Washington, just in time to expand their extradition case before the UK deadline on 14 June. The Trump administration is inducing its allies to behave like it’s the wild west.”

Baltasar Garzón, the international legal coordinator for the defence of Assange and WikiLeaks, said: “It is extremely worrying that Ecuador has proceeded with the search and seizure of property, documents, information and other material belonging to the defence of Julian Assange, which Ecuador arbitrarily confiscated, so that these can be handed over to the the agent of political persecution against him, the United States. “It is an unprecedented attack on the rights of the defence, freedom of expression and access to information exposing massive human rights abuses and corruption. We call on international protection institutions to intervene to put a stop to this persecution.”

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And if laws are meaningless, lies become the truth.

Swedish Prosecutors Ask To Detain Assange Over Rape Investigation (Ind.)

Swedish prosecutors have filed a request for the detention of Julian Assange over a rape allegation. The warrant, if granted, would be the first step in a process to have the Wikileaks founder extradited from the UK, where he is serving a 50-week sentence for breach of bail conditions. Sweden reopened an investigation into the rape allegation, first made in 2010, earlier this month. The probe was shelved in 2017 because Assange was holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he took refuge in 2012 to avoid extradition. The 47-year-old was arrested after police stormed the embassy in April following Ecuador’s withdrawal of asylum. The US subsequently requested his extradition to face charges in relation to the leak of government secrets. Swedish prosecutor Eva-Marie Persson said she would issue a European Arrest Warrant for Assange if a court granted her request for his detention “on probable cause suspected for rape”.

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The leaked OPCW files show the Douma gas attack to be a false flag. That raises very serious questions about the Skripal case at the same time, because of the OPCW’s involvement. So Britain brings out the Guardian’s Luke Harding to divert attention. Harding and the Guardian still never retracted the fake Assange-Manafort article.

Skripal Poisoning Suspects Received Mystery Phone Call Following Attack (G.)

The Russian men suspected of poisoning Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury received a phone call after returning to London on the day of the alleged attack, raising the possibility that a backup team played a role in the operation. One theory being considered by investigators is whether the call, which has not been disclosed before, was a signal to tip them off that the operation had been a success. Scotland Yard’s counter-terrorism unit said the inquiry into the poisoning was ongoing and detectives would not be drawn on any specifics. But it is understood that investigators are sifting other pieces of evidence which suggest that the suspects – Anatoliy Chepiga and Alexander Mishkin – may not have been acting alone.


Chepiga and Mishkin flew from Moscow to London on Friday 2 March last year, using the names Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov. The pair travelled to Salisbury the following day and returned to the city again on Sunday 4 March. Detectives say they applied the lethal nerve agent novichok to the door handle of Skripal’s home and caught the train back to London. The Guardian has been told they then returned to their hotel in Bow, east London. It was there they received an unexplained phone call, a source said. Shortly after the call, they travelled to Heathrow airport for a 10.30pm flight back to Moscow. “One theory is that the two waited to hear whether the attack had been a success, and the phone call was the signal to say it had been,” said a source. “It could have been the confirmation that led them to head for the airport.”

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“A Constitution written by slaveholders is being interpreted by a tiny room full of elites who have been given no meaningful popular approval…”

Rich White Men Rule America. How Much Longer Will We Tolerate That For? (G.)

White men have never made up the majority of the United States population, and yet from the country’s beginnings they have made up most of its political decision-makers. The Constitution itself is an outrageously undemocratic document. People today are bound by a set of procedural rules that were made without the input of women, African Americans, or native people. The Framers quite deliberately constructed a system that would prevent what they called “tyranny of the majority” but what is more accurately called “popular democracy.” That set of rules has been very effective at keeping the American populace from exercising power. James Madison was explicit about the function of the United States Senate—it was “to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority.”

Indeed, that’s precisely what it does. As Jamelle Bouie points out, the Senate has “an affluent membership composed mostly of white men, who are about 30% of the population but hold 71 of the seats” out of 100. Though popular opinion may overwhelmingly favor universal healthcare and more progressive taxation, these policies are said to be “politically impossible” because the millionaires who populate Congress do not favor them. [..] The supreme court is the highest branch of government, in that it can overturn the decisions of the other two branches. It consists of just nine people, all of whom went to Harvard or Yale, and two-thirds of whom are men. Ian Samuel has pointed out the remarkable fact that, thanks to the way the senate is structured, the senators who voted to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the court received represent 38 million fewer people than the senators who voted against him.

The implications here are extreme. It simply doesn’t matter where the people of the United States stand on union dues, campaign finance reform, or abortion. What matters is the opinion of nine elites, in many cases appointed by presidents who did not win the popular vote. A Constitution written by slaveholders is being interpreted by a tiny room full of elites who have been given no meaningful popular approval. When you step back and look at the situation objectively, it’s utterly farcical to call the United States government democratic.

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Sure. Waste some more time. What difference does it make anymore?

Theresa May Prepares ‘Bold’ Last-Ditch Offer To MPs On Brexit Bill (G.)

Theresa May will ask her cabinet to sign off a package of Brexit concessions this week, as she gears up for one last bid to win over MPs and salvage something concrete from her troubled premiership. With the Conservatives on course for a drubbing in Thursday’s European elections, the prime minister hopes the results will focus the minds of her own MPs and persuade them to support the long-awaited withdrawal agreement bill (WAB). Despite the collapse of cross-party talks with Labour, ministers hope some of the measures discussed can still be bolted on to the bill, as part of what May has called a “new, bold offer to MPs across the House of Commons”.


The Brexit secretary, Steve Barclay, told Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday: “We’ve been in talks with the Labour party, we’ve been exploring issues around workers’ rights, environmental standards, what commitments can be given to parliament in terms of the next phase of negotiations.” The development secretary, Rory Stewart, told the BBC the two sides in the talks had been “half an inch apart”, and added “the issue of trading with Europe” to the list of areas where MPs should expect to see movement. Proposals are expected to include separate legislation to ensure parliament is given a vote on whether to adopt any improvements to workers’ rights introduced by the EU27 in future – though that would fall short of Jeremy Corbyn’s call for changes to be automatically adopted.

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He makes SOME sense, but is that enough?

Corbyn Defends Labour’s Bid For Both Leavers And Remainers (G.)

Jeremy Corbyn has given a robust defence of Labour’s decision to try to appeal to both leavers and remainers in this Thursday’s European elections. With an Observer poll suggesting Labour could be squeezed into third position behind Nigel Farage’s Brexit party and the pro-remain Liberal Democrats, Corbyn said he still wanted to bring the two sides of the Brexit divide together. “Labour supporters voted both leave and remain, and every other party in this European election is appealing to either one side or the other, defining everybody on 2016. We’re not. We’re defining people as hopefully supporters of us – but also, people who have common problems, however they voted.


“The levels of poverty in remain and leave areas are very similar; the levels of child poverty. I think we have to be responsible about this, and appeal to people across those views.” Speaking to the BBC’s Andrew Marr, the Labour leader added: “If I may say so, it’s yourself and the British media that are obsessed with defining everybody about how they voted three years ago.” He also rejected the Birmingham Yardley MP Jess Phillips’scall for Labour to decide whether it is a party that backs Brexit, or opposes it. “She’s not right, because she fought the last general election, just like I did, on a manifesto that said we would respect the result of the referendum.” However, Corbyn appeared to soften his stance on a second referendum, saying Labour would try to win a majority for its Brexit plan, “and if we can get that through parliament, the proposal we’ve put, then I think it would be reasonable to have a public vote to decide on that in the future”.

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As dementia spreads like wildfire.

NHS England Loses 6,000 Mental Health Nurses In 10 Years (G.)

The number of mental health nurses in England has slumped by more than a tenth over the past decade, new figures have revealed. This is despite commitments from both Theresa May and her predecessor, David Cameron, to boost resources for mental health services, which many medical professionals say are now in crisis. The total mental health nursing workforce has decreased by 10.6% since 2009, according to the Royal College of Nursing (RCN). While numbers of mental health nurses have grown in some areas, such as community care, they have fallen elsewhere. Numbers are down by a quarter (25.9%) in acute care and inpatient care – where the number of mental health nurses has fallen by more than 6,000 over the decade.


Donna Kinnair, appointed as RCN chief executive and general secretary last month, will use a speech to the group’s annual congress on Monday to call on ministers to address England’s 40,000 nursing vacancies, and point out the new figures on the reduction in specialist mental health nurses. “Thousands of experienced professionals have been lost in recent years as the investment failed to match the rhetoric,” she will say. “The shortage of beds, too, leaves vulnerable people often sent hundreds of miles from home and their loved ones for the care they need. As a country and a health service, we are letting down people who must be able to rely on us most. We must draw a line under this and allocate serious resources to mental health care, including the right number of staff.”

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Happy birthday brother Malcolm.

 

 

 

 

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    Rembrandt van Rijn Diana Bathing with her Nymphs with Actaeon and Callisto 1634   • China Forced Tech Transfer Problem Is Growing – EU Business G
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 20 2019]

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    V. Arnold
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    Happy birthday brother Malcolm.

    YES! I was going to address his absence in the other thread about MLK.
    Malcolm X AND the Black Panthers; Fred Hampton’s cold blooded murder in Chicago by the U.S. government!
    Edy Conway; a Black Panther, excon, and a producer at TRNN…
    As great as they are; they have one very serious problem; they’re BLACK;
    in the U.S.; as a result of a white, nationalist, majority…
    Many questions with damn few answers…
    Unless you accept the obvious…

    #47471

    V. Arnold
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    Well, I got lost in the weeds above.
    The worst thing you can be in the U.S. is BLACK!
    Racism, on steroids, is alive and thriving in the U.S..
    And it’s mostly aimed at black Usians…

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    I didn’t include Malcolm in the Assange/MLK article because I wanted to focus on peaceful resistance.

    #47473

    Dr. D
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    V. Compared to what? Is it 1960? Do we have segregated buses, schools, businesses, military? Are there separate laws? In fact, is there both private and government support and incentives for racially-based hiring? Are there black Mayors, Congressmen, Senators, Supreme Court Judges, billionaire businessmen, anchors, media stars, Presidents?

    People act like it’s 1959, since that’s what the media drums on, erroneously, day after day. And since we have all those things, have had them for decades, all those people are supported, were voted in by sizable majorities, I can only say it will never, ever end, and there is nothing, ever, any American can do, no person, no election, no demonstration, that will ever allow us not to be called vile overwhelming racists that still have slavery and lynchings coast to coast, in every state, every month, in public.

    Nope. No progress here! Might as well not bother. The 1 in 10 white guys killed in the Civil war fixing the 1789 compromise? Shouldn’t have bothered. The white Republicans, next to MLK taking it in the teeth, getting arrested and beaten to fix Civil Rights in 1969? Should have stayed home. White guys running the ACLU? Don’t exist. Yup, because none of that or all the years since ever mattered. No credit, nothing ever changed. It’s still 1801, and it always will be. Just ask CNN and The Guardian™, who would never lie!

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    Dr. D
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    “their companies are often compelled to hand over prized technology”

    I’m not a genius or anything, but: don’t do it? Don’t go to China and give away all your patents and manufacturing processes? Stay at home in control of your company and employing your people, the workers you grew up with?
    And they say it can’t be done, but if everybody did it…

    Dum dum dum dum…

    By the way, if they are stealing “prized technology”, not enforcing patent rights, and the “regulatory environment is “bleak” perhaps you would like to tell them instead of surrendering? You know, even have a trade war if necessary? But no, “We shall surrender on the beaches, we shall surrender in the air. We shall always, always surrender” because standing up for yourself might be hard.

    “stop the Chinese telecom firm from rolling out 5G mobile networks in Europe.”

    I would like to know what the 5G thing is, because it sure ain’t technological. It’s expensive, it stinks, and we almost certainly don’t need it. It’s faster? We already stream full video on our phones – how much faster do we need? As far as I can tell, its only purpose is to track and surveil whistleblowing reporters down to 6 feet, and to cause fires and cancer…for astronomical cost and complexity. So…discuss?

    “US internet giant Google, whose Android mobile operating system powers most of the world’s smartphones”

    Speaking of surveillance, these guys have no security at all, and a centralized point of information, where a claimed “private” company, has info on every Congressman, Senator, Judge, and Mayor worldwide. …But they’re unaccountable billionaires, I’m sure they’d never MIS-use that data, right?

    “Ecuador to hand over Assange’s entire legal defence to the United States.”

    Is this anything like search and seizure of a person’s LAWYER’S whole office, in search of a crime? I mean, 1,000 years of law, blahblah, I can’t hear you over the sound of my ego and ambition, endofwesterncivilization, blah.

    Nope, no rule of law. And money…and therefore power, always moves to where it is protected, and there ARE rules, and protections. This is the single indicator of prosperity worldwide, over all time. Japan: super-poor, no real assets = wealthiest. Congo: ultra-rich in every thing, land, minerals, gold, diamonds, labor, no rules = poorest. But hey, have it your way. They won’t learn until they are in the sty, eating with the pigs, dreaming if only they could go home again. To the Enlightenment, and a rule of law and not men.

    Otoh, Assange hasn’t been murdered yet, so that’s a wonder. Because any day now either Benjamin or Tommy will be.

    “Swedish Prosecutors Ask to Detain Assange over Rape Investigation (Ind.)”

    Excuse my ignorance here, but a FOREIGNER, an Australian, who is in ANOTHER country, England, is being asked to be detained over an INVESTIGATION, not even a legal charge? What’s Swedish for ‘Go f—yourself?’

    (Excuse my candor as for the moment we still have a 1st Amendment here.)

    Skripals: “the call, which has not been disclosed before”

    I’m not even going to use my 1st Amendment right to discredit this. It discredits itself, and the Guardian, and the Independent, and England, and Europe, and the Trump Administration who repeated it.

    “Rich White Men Rule America. How Much Longer Will We Tolerate That For? (G.)”

    Wow, what excellent racists. We now determine who can rule based on the color of their skin. Heinrich Himmler much? I could write a paper, indeed a book refuting the Guardian, but it’s been covered in every history book written before 1990, and they already refuted all credibility in the article, above. So when The Guardian’s England, has candidates that are ALSO not from Westminster, they openly slander them, remove their speech, openly incite violence, and cheer on their public murders, because The Guardian™ will not tolerate their own white men being unseated, even a tiny. Little. Bit. Not even in British Parliament, which has power, even if they won’t use it, but as Reps of the totally toothless, student government, EU parliament. And they still can’t handle it.

    PS, as I know you can’t read, listen to “Hamilton”, cartoon version, and tell me what you think about the racist, slaveholding founders.

    “Theresa May Prepares ‘Bold’ Last-Ditch Offer To MPs On Brexit Bill (G.)”

    Speaking of Westminster insiders with no imagination, completely controlled, against the people, May prepares a ‘Bold’ offer, to take the exact same offer she already gave, that was voted down by a 1,000-year record majority, or else. …Or else she doesn’t have any other ideas at all, and also no leverage to make anyone do anything.

    BTW, now she’s cooperating with Labour, which is itself history, as people hate Westminster so much BOTH Labour AND Conservatives effectively cease to exist as viable parties, in one short year.

    “NHS England Loses 6,000 Mental Health Nurses In 10 Years (G.)”

    Is this because National Health always collapses when they run out of other people’s money? “Government is FIRE. It is FORCE.” It is not a nice, caring uncle who will pay for and gently take care of everyone. It’s literally the OPPOSITE of that and, historically the WORST provider of ANY service in EVERY country, over all time. As if our “War on Poverty” and “War on Drugs” didn’t clue you.

    And gosh, I was in a good mood before the news today, too.

    #47475

    V. Arnold
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    V. Compared to what? Is it 1960? Do we have segregated buses, schools, businesses, military? Are there separate laws? In fact, is there both private and government support and incentives for racially-based hiring? Are there black Mayors, Congressmen, Senators, Supreme Court Judges, billionaire businessmen, anchors, media stars, Presidents?

    Separate laws? Sure there are. Blacks are shot on sight, in the back mostly, it seems.
    Black presidents? You mean that lieing, murdering, oreo cookie, Obama?
    Anyhoo; I’ll not go through the litany of the black reality on the ground in the USA.
    If you’re happy with the racial realities of the U.S., fine.
    1960? No, I’d say it’s worse in 2019.
    Bottom line: Equality/morality cannot be legislated, ever. Racism in the U.S. has been finely crafted over the last 240+ years and there is no end in sight…and I’ll not be an apologist for the ongoing racism rampant in the U.S., ever…

    #47476

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I didn’t include Malcolm in the Assange/MLK article because I wanted to focus on peaceful resistance.

    Neither Malcolm X or the Black Panthers espoused violence; however, they did claim their right to self defense against violence perpetrated against them. I personally affirm their right of self defense.
    I also greatly respect MLK’s pacifist actions…
    True pacifism must rank as one of the highest of human achievements possible, IMO…
    MLK proved beyond doubt he was faithful to his convictions…

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    barnaby33
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    The articles and the comments, this place is becoming more a pro Russian troll farm every day.

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