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Hundreds of thousands of US Troops Remain Unvaccinated (DM)
Southwest Cancels 1,800 Flights In 2 Days, Rumours Of Employee ‘Sickout’ (RT)
More Info Surfaces On Southwest Airlines Flight Cancellations (CTH)
If This Is True…. (Denninger)
Judge Rules Against Natural Immunity Claim Challenging Vaccine Mandate (ET)
Natural Immunity and Covid-19: Twenty-Nine Scientific Studies (BI)
Amish: No Hospitalization, Isolation Or Vaccines = Herd Immunity (Attkisson)
China Prepares for Possible Large-Scale COVID-19 Outbreak (ET)
New Zealand Makes Covid-19 Vaccinations Mandatory For Health Workers (R.)
Getting Flu With Covid Doubles Risk Of Death, Says UK Health Chief (G.)
Shelves Stripped Bare As Brits Rush To Panic-buy Ahead Of Christmas (RT)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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“Biden added that country is still on a wartime footing..”

So they can courtmarshal them?

Good luck trying to make the entire army woke.

Hundreds of thousands of US Troops Remain Unvaccinated (DM)

Hundreds of thousands of United States servicemembers remain unvaccinated or are only partially vaccinated against the coronavirus, as the deadline to have the shot draws closer. The vaccination rates vary between military branches, according to data obtained by the Washington Post, with 98 percent of the active duty Navy fully vaccinated. There are almost 340,000 such personnel, with the two per cent who haven’t been jabbed representing close to 7,000 people. Meanwhile, just 72 percent of the 181,000 active Marine Corps personnel have been vaccinated – meaning close to 51,000 have yet to have the jab. Both branches have to be fully vaccinated by November 28, under the Defense Department’s August mandate.

Figures show that 81 percent of Army members are fully vaccinated. That branch of the military has 485,000 members, with the 19 per cent who remain unvaccinated representing well over 95,000 personnel. And more than 60,000 people in the Air Force have just three weeks to meet their deadline to be fully vaccinated. The rate, though, is worse for members of the Army National Guard and Army Reserves – which have until June to meet the vaccination requirement. Military officials said the rates have varied due to the staggering deadlines, and have expressed hope that the vaccination rates will increase as the deadlines near. Since the pandemic began, about a quarter million service members have been infected with the virus, and more than 2,000 were killed, with a large outbreak last year aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt that showed how quickly the virus could spread in close quarters.

The outbreak served as a wake up call when the ship was sidelined for two months after about 1,100 crew members were infected and one soldier died. In August, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced that he was seeking President Joe Biden’s approval to mandate that all service members get vaccinated against the virus. which the president later approved. He said in a statement at the time that he strongly supports Austin’s decision, noting the plan would add the COVID vaccine ‘to the list of required vaccinations for our service members not later than mid-September,’ according to the Associated Press. Biden added that country is still on a wartime footing and ‘being vaccinated will enable our service members to stay healthy, to better protect their families, and to ensure that our force is ready to operate anywhere in the world.’

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A strange denial game. It was the weather…

Southwest Cancels 1,800 Flights In 2 Days, Rumours Of Employee ‘Sickout’ (RT)

Thousands of passengers that booked Southwest Airlines flights for their weekend travel have been stranded in the US airports after the airline cancelled the flights amid reports of a protest against the vaccine mandate. SouthWest, known for its relatively low prices, cancelled at least 1,018 flights on Sunday, that is in addition to 808 flights that were cancelled on Saturday, US Today reported, citing flight tracking data. In a statement on Saturday, SouthWest blamed the abnormal rate of cancellations on air traffic control issues and “disruptive weather,” adding that they were working to “recover” the operation. However, the situation appeared to have only worsened on Sunday, with SouthWest account on Twitter being inundated by complaints from the disgruntled passengers claiming that flights had been cancelled out of the blue and that the airline’s employees were nowhere to be seen.

“Flight cancelled out of nowhere and now NO ONE is seen at the front desks to assist customers,” actor Kevin Michael Martin complained. Another passenger, who has been apparently stranded at a Dallas, Texas, airport, posted a photo of a long line of people, tweeting: “Ticket agent counter before security is a mess,” to which SouthWest responded by insisting that the chaos was merely a result of “ATC issue and disruptive weather.” “Thanks for hanging in there with us today,” SouthWest said. Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA), which represents some 10,000 pilots, also poured cold water on the speculations of an ongoing strike, saying on Sunday that the group was “focused on the safety of our crews, passengers, and overcoming operational challenges, not unofficial job actions.”

However, media citing “airline sources” have reported that air traffic controllers were staging a mass “sickout” or walkout at the federal air traffic control center in Hilliard, Florida, over mandatory vaccinations. The reported protest caused “ripple effect” paralyzing SouthWest operations, Leland Vittert, national correspondent for NewsNation, reported on Twitter. Responding to the rumours of a mass walkout on Sunday afternoon, The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) dismissed the report, insisting that “no FAA air traffic staffing shortages have been reported since Friday.” “Flight delays and cancellations occurred for a few hours Friday afternoon due to widespread severe weather, military training and limited staffing in one area of the Jacksonville Air Route Traffic Control Center,” the agency said.

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“Essentially, the union cannot organize or even acknowledge the sickout, because doing so would make it an illegal job action.”

More Info Surfaces On Southwest Airlines Flight Cancellations (CTH)

People inside Southwest Airlines are speaking out carefully and pointing out why there are so many flight disruptions. Essentially, the background issues are what were discussed earlier. Pilots are pushing back against vaccine mandates; and if you think about the curriculum vitae of a typical pilot, it makes sense.A big percentage of commercial airline pilots are former military pilots. That group of people carry a strong disposition toward the principles of patriotism, service, liberty and freedom. It is a simple truism that upsets leftists, but it makes sense for this specifically skilled workforce group to be the tip of the push back spear. Alex Berenson provides some background details after being contacted by a Southwest pilot:

“The pilot emailed following the first Southwest post today (and provided his SWA ID to prove his identity). He asked that I paraphrase the email. Essentially, the union cannot organize or even acknowledge the sickout, because doing so would make it an illegal job action. Years ago, Southwest and its pilots had a rough negotiation, and the union would not even let the pilots internally discuss the possibility of working-to-rule (which would have slowed Southwest to a crawl). But at the moment the pilots don’t even have to talk to each other about what they’re doing. The anger internally – not just among pilots but other Southwest workers – is enormous. The tough prior negotiations notwithstanding, Southwest has a history of decent labor relations, and workers believe the company should stand up for them against the mandate. Telling pilots in particular to comply or face termination has backfired.”

[..] Factually I do not believe a federal mandate for a vaccine is even possible or legal. It appears to me that all of Biden’s threats in this regard are simply that, threats. The purpose of the threat is to push people to take the vaccine without actually attempting a legal federal mandate; and that approach so far has been successful. However, now they are going to encounter the more hard-core groups who will not concede liberty or freedom to a federal mandate. It is obvious Anthony Fauci also knows a federal mandate will lose in court when challenged. The fact that Fauci brings up state vaccination requirements for education, as examples of historically forced vaccinations is both a strawman argument and structurally false. There has never been a FEDERAL mandate for any vaccination. All the vaccinations Fauci discusses (ex. his kids) were state mandates. Each state also has a different set of standards and laws for children and vaccines. There is nothing federal.

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“I trust animal meds in this sort of context far more than human ones. Go kill someone’s tens-of-millions of dollar racehorse and see how long you live. Whack Fluffy and it will be all over the news for a week..”

If This Is True…. (Denninger)

“Fun fact: Between 100-200 United States Congress Members (plus many of their staffers & family members) with COVID.. were treated by a colleague over the past 15 months with ivermectin & the I-MASK+ protocol at http://flccc.net. None have gone to hospital. Just sayin’.” There are 535 members of Congress. On the lower boundary this is 19% of the members, plus staff and family or close to one in five. On the upper boundary it is more than a third. Remember folks that doctors have been threatened with loss of their medical licenses for writing prescriptions and chain pharmacies, which are most of them, have in many cases refused to fill said prescriptions. The entire reason people have gone out and bought “pony paste” is that they can’t go to the local doc-in-a-box and get a script for Ivermectin.

Incidentally I trust animal meds in this sort of context far more than human ones. Go kill someone’s tens-of-millions of dollar racehorse and see how long you live. Whack Fluffy and it will be all over the news for a week with the responsible vet run out of town. But killing Granny, if you’re a hospital and can come up with a positive PCR test you get a $33,000 bounty — and everyone, including the media, yawns. Do I believe Ivermectin is the entire answer? No. It wasn’t for me, and I used it when I got Covid in early August. But was it part of the answer? I believe it was. It certainly didn’t kill me and on the data it is about 100 times safer than Tylenol. We have 40 years of data on its safety and it has a risk of seriously harming you of about 1 in 600,000. With close to four billion human doses dispensed and consumed that data is pretty solid; I certainly trust it.

Can you OD on it or worse, find some product that has it and other things in it too and those other drugs are unsafe (or at least untested) in humans? Certainly. But remember folks: We had an out-and-out fraud, a actual medical practitioner, who stated their entire ER was full of people who poisoned themselves with the drug. The hospital, a day or two later when they realized they had been named, issued a formal statement that exactly zero persons had shown up in their Emergency Room having been poisoned by self-administration of Ivermectin. Did anyone go to prison for this lie? Nope. Did that person’s medical ticket get punched permanently for their false presentation? Nope. What sanction was placed on said person for their intentional fraud? None.

Is Covid serious? It certainly can be. While there are predictors of increased risk the fact is that just as with any drug who gets hammered and who does not is not certain. I used a prophylactic protocol for close to a year and a half and despite somewhere around two dozen known exposures I did not get the virus. I was still using that protocol when I finally did get the virus via an exposure that was close enough to get me, but was hardly as close as many of the others. I also was under a serious immune assault due to a yellowjacket swarm during the incubation period; without that I might well have once again avoided infection. There’s no way for me to know that with any degree of certainty.

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Jacobson 1905. Wasn’t that about eugenics?

Judge Rules Against Natural Immunity Claim Challenging Vaccine Mandate (ET)

A federal judge on Oct. 8 denied a request to block Michigan State University’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate on the basis of natural immunity. An employee at the school, Jeanna Norris, filed a lawsuit against the mandate and asked a judge to intervene on the basis that she had already contracted COVID-19 and recovered. She presented two antibody tests showing her previous infection, and her doctors told her that she didn’t need to get the vaccine at this time. Despite her natural immunity, Norris faces termination from the university for not complying with the school’s mandate that all students and staff get the shot unless they have a medical or religious exemption.

U.S. District Judge Paul Maloney, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, declined her lawsuit. The mandate, Maloney said, didn’t violate her fundamental rights and pointed to a 1905 Supreme Court ruling. “This Court must apply the law from the Supreme Court: Jacobson essentially applied rational basis review and found that the vaccine mandate was rational in ‘protect[ing] the public health and public safety,’” Maloney said in his order. “The Court cannot ignore this binding precedent.”

[..] “Ms. Norris courageously brought this lawsuit to vindicate the constitutional rights of individuals with naturally acquired immunity to COVID-19 who are subject to irrational vaccine mandates,” Jenin Younes, a lawyer who works for the New Civil Liberties Alliance, who represents Norris, told the paper. “While we are disappointed by today’s order, we are committed to fighting for the rights of COVID-recovered Americans to decline a medically unnecessary vaccine without having to sacrifice their livelihoods.” It comes just days after a federal judge in California ruled against a professor who argued that his previous infection should make him exempt from the University of California’s vaccine requirement.

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“..people who prefer an exposure risk to the virus in order to gain robust immunity deserve the freedom to make that choice.”

Natural Immunity and Covid-19: Twenty-Nine Scientific Studies (BI)

From the beginning of the March 2020 lockdowns for the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the subject of natural immunity (also called post-infection immunity) has been neglected. Once the vaccination became widely available, what began with near silence at the beginning turned nearly into a complete blackout of the topic. Even now, there is an absence of open discussion, presumably in the interests of promoting universal vaccination and required documentation of such vaccination as a condition of participating in public life and even the jobs marketplace. Still, the science exists. Many studies exist. Their authors deserve credit, recognition, and to have their voices heard.

These studies demonstrate what was and is already known: natural immunity for a SARS-type virus is robust, long-lasting, and broadly effective even in the case of mutations, generally more so than vaccines. In fact, a major contribution of 20th-century science has been to expand upon and further elucidate this principle that has been known since the ancient world. Every expert presumably knew this long before the current debates. The effort to pretend otherwise is a scientific scandal of the highest order, especially because the continued neglect of the topic is affecting the rights and freedoms of billions of people.

People who have contracted the virus and recovered deserve recognition. For that matter, people who prefer an exposure risk to the virus in order to gain robust immunity deserve the freedom to make that choice. The realization that natural immunity – which pertains now to perhaps half of the US population and billions around the world – is effective in providing protection should have a dramatic effect on vaccine mandates. Individuals whose livelihoods and liberties are being deprecated and deleted need access to the scientific literature as it pertains to this virus. They should send a link to this page far and wide. The scientists have not been silent; they just haven’t received the public attention they deserve.

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“You’re changing our culture completely to try to act like they wanted us to act the last year, and we’re not going to do it.”

Amish: No Hospitalization, Isolation Or Vaccines = Herd Immunity (Attkisson)

The Amish are a Christian group that emphasizes the virtuous over the superficial. They don’t usually drive, use electricity, or have TVs. And during the Covid-19 outbreak, they became subjects in a massive social and medical experiment. Sharyl: So, it’s safe to say there was a whole different approach here in this community when coronavirus broke out than many other places? Calvin Lapp: Absolutely. Calvin Lapp is Amish Mennonite. Lapp: There’s three things the Amish don’t like. And that’s government— they won’t get involved in the government, they don’t like the public education system— they won’t send their children to education, and they also don’t like the health system. They rip us off.

Those are three things that we feel like we’re fighting against all the time. Well, those three things are all part of what Covid is. After a short shutdown last year, the Amish chose a unique path that led to Covid-19 tearing through at warp speed. It began with an important religious holiday in May. Lapp: When they take communion, they dump their wine into a cup and they take turns to drink out of that cup. So, you go the whole way down the line, and everybody drinks out of that cup, if one person has coronavirus, the rest of church is going to get coronavirus. The first time they went back to church, everybody got coronavirus. Lapp says they weren’t denying coronavirus, they were facing it head on.

Lapp: It’s a worse thing to quit working than dying. Working is more important than dying. But to shut down and say that we can’t go to church, we can’t get together with family, we can’t see our old people in the hospital, we got to quit working? It’s going completely against everything that we believe. You’re changing our culture completely to try to act like they wanted us to act the last year, and we’re not going to do it.

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Recognize this?

“..you can be quarantined at any time and put in a quarantine site. And the quarantine sites can also be a place of political persecution,” Lin said.”

China Prepares for Possible Large-Scale COVID-19 Outbreak (ET)

The Chinese regime has notified local authorities to prepare for a large-scale outbreak of COVID-19, according to leaked internal documents obtained by the Chinese Epoch Times. One document, titled “Notice of Further Strengthening of Epidemic Prevention” was issued by the Chinese regime’s State Council, and forwarded by Fujian provincial government to local authorities on Sept. 30. The other is a “National Day Epidemic Prevention Notice” issued by the State Council on Oct. 1 and distributed by the Fujian provincial officials to local authorities. The documents are both marked “extra urgent.” Both notices request enhanced preparations for an emergency response to the outbreak, with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) putting forward at least two standards for local authorities.

One is to build central isolation sites, with local authorities required by the end of October to set up isolation centers and rooms of not less than 20 rooms per 10,000 people. The scale of each isolation site must be more than 100 rooms. According to public data, the population of Fujian Province in 2020 was 41.54 million. As of Sept. 19, the province has set up 35,691 quarantine rooms in 296 central sites. Based on the standard in the epidemic prevention notice, Fujian Province will need to build at least 83,000 quarantine rooms by the end of October, which is around 47,000 rooms in less than a month. According to one expert, the requirements for the COVID-19 quarantine sites reveal the real situation of the pandemic in China. Dr. Sean Lin, a former virology researcher at the U.S. Army Research Institute, told The Epoch Times: “This reflects the CCP’s concern about the rise of the epidemic. It must have been concealing the true epidemic in mainland China, otherwise it would not suddenly issue a national notice of emergency preparedness.”

“Notice of Further Strengthening of Epidemic Prevention” requires the establishment of a five-layered control system. It states: “Township and street CCP cadres, community grid staff, grassroots medical workers, police, and volunteers shall jointly implement community epidemic prevention,” such as “strictly implement[ing] community prevention and control,” or locking down residential communities. Lin said that the control system is actually to tighten social management in local areas, and “the CCP’s purpose is to tighten control.” “If there is no nucleic acid test, all the CCP’s epidemic prevention measures are the same as political campaigns. For example, you can be quarantined at any time and put in a quarantine site. And the quarantine sites can also be a place of political persecution,” Lin said.

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New Zealand is walking backwards.

New Zealand Makes Covid-19 Vaccinations Mandatory For Health Workers (R.)

New Zealand will require teachers and workers in the health and disability sectors to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on Monday, as she extended restrictions in Auckland, its largest city, for another week. New Zealand is fighting the highly infectious Delta outbreak that forced it to abandon its long-standing strategy of eliminating the new coronavirus amid persistent infections and is looking to live with the virus through higher vaccinations. “New Zealand is at one of the trickiest and most challenging moments in the COVID-19 pandemic so far,” Ardern told reporters in Wellington. Ardern, however, said “there is a clear path forward” in the next few months to live with fewer curbs and more freedoms once the country reaches a higher level of vaccinations.


About 2.38 million New Zealanders have so far been fully vaccinated, or about 57% of the eligible population, with officials promising to end lockdowns once 90% of the eligible population is vaccinated. Health and disability sector workers will have to be fully vaccinated by Dec. 1, while school and early learning staff must get their two doses by Jan. 1, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said. The decision of mandatory vaccinations comes as New Zealand reported 35 new cases, all of them in Auckland, down from 60 on Sunday, taking the total cases in the current outbreak to 1,622. Having largely controlled the virus last year, New Zealand has recorded just over 4,600 cases and 28 deaths.

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Nothing the UK Health Security Agency chief executive says makes any sense to me.

Do people really believe there was no flu last year?

Getting Flu With Covid Doubles Risk Of Death, Says UK Health Chief (G.)

People who catch flu and Covid at the same time this winter are twice as likely to die than those who only have coronavirus, according to the UK Health Security Agency chief executive, Dr Jenny Harries. The former deputy chief medical officer for England warned that the UK faces an “uncertain” winter – with both flu and Covid-19 circulating for the first time – and urged people to take up both the coronavirus and flu jabs if eligible. Asked how worried the public should be about flu this winter, she told Sky’s Trevor Phillips On Sunday: “We should be worried about flu each winter. I think people still don’t realise it can be a fatal disease.

“But I think the important thing about this winter is, we are likely to see flu, for the first time in any real numbers, co-circulating with Covid. So the risks of catching both together still remain. And if you do that, then early evidence suggests that you are twice as likely to die from having two together than just having Covid alone. “So I think it’s an uncertain winter ahead – that’s not a prediction, it’s an uncertain feature – but we do know that flu cases have been lower in the previous year so immunity and the strain types are a little more uncertain,” she said. Harries also warned that the UK could have a multi-strain flu this year, with lowered immunity, as last year’s Covid restrictions meant that levels of the virus were extremely low.

She said that on average, about 11,000 people will die from flu each year. “The difference here is because we have, if you like, skipped a year almost with flu, it’s possible we might see multi-strain flu – we usually get one strain predominating,” she added. Harries said there are four strains of virus in this year’s flu vaccine, after taking advice from the World Health Organization (WHO), the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) and looking to countries in the southern hemisphere, where winter and therefore flu season arrives earlier.

“So we’ve got a pretty good array in our toolbox to try and hit whichever one becomes dominant but it could be more than one this year, and people’s immunity will be lower. So I think the real trick here is to get vaccinated in both Covid and flu, but obviously to continue to do those good hygiene behaviours that we’ve been practising all through Covid”, Harries added. Harries also said that making children wear masks in school would not be at the top of her list of Covid-safe measures.

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A can of spam for Christmas

Shelves Stripped Bare As Brits Rush To Panic-buy Ahead Of Christmas (RT)

The supply crisis in Britain has worsened as deep concerns over supply-chain woes, soaring energy bills, and staff shortages prompted millions of locals to stockpile festive essentials ahead of Christmas, leaving shelves empty. About eight million Britons were unable to purchase essential food for two weeks between September 22 and October 3, while one in six said they were struggling to find non-essential items, according to data tracked by the Office of National Statistics (ONS). Two-thirds of British shoppers polled by retail magazine The Grocer were worried or very worried at the prospect of food and drink shortages over Christmas.Hundreds of thousands of British consumers have reportedly booked their delivery slots for Christmas.


Nearly 22,000 slots had been reserved by lunchtime on the first day after supermarket chain Waitrose made dates available last week. Britain has been struggling with a series of severe crises due to supply shortages attributed to several factors, including the Covid-19 pandemic, soaring gas prices, and breaching of trade and labour relations with the European Union. Last week, London called in the army to help the authorities ease the fuel crisis by providing troops and transport to make deliveries to petrol stations after many of the outlets ran dry due to panic buying. Earlier, the UK government issued more than 10,000 three-month visas for drivers of fuel tankers and food lorries, as well as poultry workers. The step was taken to tackle a severe labour crisis that has had an enormous negative impact on food retailers, fast-food chains, and distributors of fuels.

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Ode to Joy
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    Paul Gauguin Bathing, Dieppe 1885   • Hundreds of thousands of US Troops Remain Unvaccinated (DM) • Southwest Cancels 1,800 Flights In 2 Days, Ru
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 11 2021]

    #89713
    oxymoron
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    I agree with the psychologist but holy shit I wanna rub it in their faces. We haven’t even approached the energy issues let alone the current medical tyranny and people are just being assholes about unvaxxed. A clients husband won’t even remain in the same house when I turn up to garden and drives to their other property and will no longer refer to me by name or in the first person.

    #89714
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Paul Gauguin Bathing, Dieppe 1885

    The Gauguin is okay…but what really grabbed me was: Beethoven ‘Ode to Joy’ flashmob.. 🎶…
    Zounds! What a rush…
    Brought me to tears; flashmobs tend to do that…to me…emotional person that I am…
    Looking at the gathering crowd, even the children, were taken by the upswell of life…
    It’s magic, the little bit we can still grasp…
    May the gods help us if we ever lose that…

    #89715
    chooch
    Participant

    Hear ya oxy,

    Some serious beatitude from down under. I thought it was worth capturing what Ros Nealon-Cook said in her tweet that Raul posted.

    “[…] They are actually frozen and we need to have compassion and empathy towards them and be there when they find out, because they are going to find out with either what we are saying today or they find out because of what’s coming. We have to be very compassionate…Please understand why, why we’re all like understanding our own psychology and understand how you ended up where you are because that is wisdom. That’s the most compassionate place to be and that’s how we will resolve this as well.”

    G’day mates.

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    Boogaloo
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    Do people really believe there was no flu last year?

    Yeah, pretty much, I do believe that. For the first time in years I did not get sick at all — not even a cold. This is a big deal for me because I never get “just a cold”. It’s always a cold (or flu), followed by sinus infection, followed by bronchitis and weeks of coughing. Usually multiple times a year. But since February 2020 I have not been sick at all. And lots of people I know have had the same experience. Masks, sanitizer, distancing, regular hand washing, and more sleep have all made a huge difference to me — like night and day. I really do believe that the flu all but disappeared in Korea last year.

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    oxymoron
    Participant

    I’m exactly the same Boogaloo it is the main reason I have believed some of these draconian measures had some effect even Hough it was a pointless exercise. I haven’t been remotely unwell in 2 years and it’s weird for me having kids and working in cold and heat.

    #89718
    John Day
    Participant

    Yeah, Influenza was MIA last year. We did a lot of negative tests.

    #89719
    Germ
    Participant

    Interesting read for anybody who bought a box of anti-body tests and have yet to test positive.

    “New Research Calls Into Question Popular COVID Test”

    New Research Calls Into Question Popular COVID Test

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    John Day
    Participant

    Disintermediation Project Garden pic included. (Hey, what happened to all our comments?)
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/10/again-why-shortages-are-permanent.html

    Why Shortages Are Permanent: Global Supply Shortages Make Fantastic Financial Sense, Charles Hugh Smith
    The era of abundance was only a short-lived artifact of the initial boost phase of globalization and financialization.
    Global corporations didn’t go to all the effort to establish quasi-monopolies and cartels for our convenience–they did it to ensure reliably large profits from control and scarcity. Not all scarcities are artificial, i.e. the result of cartels limiting supply to keep prices high; many scarcities are real, and many of these scarcities can be traced back to the stripping out of redundancy / multiple suppliers of industrial essentials to streamline efficiency and eliminate competition. Recall that competition and abundance are anathema to profits.
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct21/scarcity-permanent10-21.html

    John Michael Greer is very much in his element here. Here are some of his insights.
    That Untraversed Land
    If you want people to put up patiently with long hours of drudgery at miserably low wages, subject to wretched conditions and humiliating policies, so that their self-proclaimed betters can enjoy lifestyles they will never be able to share, it’s a really bad idea to make them stop work and give them a good long period of solitude, in which they can think about what they want out of life and how little of it they’re getting from the role you want them to play. It’s an especially bad idea to do it so that they have no way of knowing when, or if, they will ever be allowed to return to their former lives, thus forcing them to look for other options in order to stay fed, clothed, housed, and the like.​..

    ​ So there’s a labor shortage, and it’s concentrated in exactly those jobs that are most essential to keeping the economy running. These are also the jobs most likely to have lousy pay and worse conditions. This isn’t accidental. It unfolds from one of the most pervasive and least discussed features of contemporary economic life: the metastatic growth of intermediation.
    ​ ​Let’s unpack that phrase a bit. The simplest of all economic exchanges takes place between two people, each of whom has something the other wants. They make an exchange, and both go off happy. If what one of the people brings to the exchange is labor, and the other person brings something the first person wants or needs in exchange for labor, we call that “employment,” and the first person is an employee and the second an employer, but it’s still a simple exchange. So long as there’s no overt or covert coercion involved on either side, it’s a fair trade.
    ​ ​What happens as a society becomes more complex, however, is that people insert themselves into that transaction and demand a cut. Governments—national, local, and everything in between—tax income, sales, and everything else they can think of. Banks charge interest and fees on every scrap of money that passes through their hands. Real estate owners drive up the cost of land so that they can take an ever larger share of the proceeds in rent and mortgage payments. Then you have a long line of other industries lobbying government for their share of the take.​..

    ​ Ultimately, of course, employment itself becomes a form of intermediation. By and large you aren’t hired by people who want what you produce, you’re hired by a corporation that inserts itself between you and the purchaser, takes most of the money, and gives you a pittance, while directing a big share to managerial staff. Since the corporation is also subject to intermediation, other shares go to governments, banks, and a whole ecosystem of other intermediaries who insert themselves into the same transaction. In the end, you get a small fraction of the value of your work, and that fraction has been shrinking steadily with each passing year.
    ​ ​There’s some history behind that. The spectacular growth of intermediation in modern times became possible for two reasons. The first was that fossil fuels made it possible for the labor of a single person to produce more wealth than ever before in human history. The second was that fossil fuels also enabled the world’s industrial nations to take over and exploit more of the planet than any previous empire in recorded history, first through conquest and colonialism, and later on through manipulative economic arrangements that left other countries notionally independent while they were being drained of wealth to support the industrial nations.
    ​ ​The impact of these factors on economic life is almost impossible to overstate. Before the coming of the industrial era, it took on average the productive labor of ten people to support one person in an economic role that didn’t produce necessary goods or services.​..

    ​ The difficulty is that the torrents of cheap abundant energy that made that sort of metastatic intermediation possible depended all along on the breakneck exploitation of nonrenewable resources. Now fossil fuels are not so cheap as they once were, nor so abundant. There’s very little slack left in the fossil fuel sector—as current shortages and price spikes are making very clear—nor are renewable energy sources able to pick up the slack effectively—as current shortages and price spikes are making equally clear.​..

    ​ All this imposes an existential challenge to the economy of intermediation, and to the millions upon millions of well-paid jobs that depend on intermediation. That challenge first began to bite in the 1980s, and it was met by driving the working classes into poverty and misery. It bears repeating and remembering that half a century ago in the United States, one adult with a high school education and a working class job could support a family of four in relative comfort.​..

    ​ The difficulty, of course, is that you can only take that so far before it’s no longer worth anyone’s while to do those poorly paid jobs on which the whole system depends. Here in the United States, we’ve reached that point, and not just for employees. Go to any town in flyover country and walk down the streets, past the empty storefronts where businesses used to flourish. There are millions of people who would love to start their own business, but it’s a losing proposition in an economy in which governments, banks, and property owners demand so large a cut that most small startup businesses can’t break even. The same is equally true, of course, for employees, whose wages no longer even pay the basic costs of getting by in today’s America.​..

    ​ Thus the economy of intermediation is strangling the economic activity on which it survives. To change that would require the people whose jobs depend on intermediation to accept a drastic and permanent loss of status, influence, and wealth, and the number of them who will accept that loss willingly can doubtless be counted on the fingers of one foot…

    ​ ​But it’s the quiet dissolution of working class employment, the recognition by the people who keep the economy running that they have better things to do than prop up a system that treats them as disposable components, that strikes me as most important here and ​​now.

    ​ ​Many of them are finding work in the underground economy. That’s a huge economic sector these days. How many people make a living doing work outside ordinary employment and getting paid “under the table,” as the phrase is, is for obvious reasons a hard question to answer, but it’s quite possibly in the tens of millions. Working in the underground economy is an effective way to get out from under the burden of intermediation, so that both parties in an economic transaction can keep most or all of the value they exchange. That’s going to become even more significant a fraction of the economy in the years ahead.

    ​ ​In a declining economy, one person’s productive labor can no longer support the vast teetering structure of intermediation that’s been heaped on top of it. As decline proceeds—and as we have seen, it will proceed for many years to come—so will the contraction in what each person’s labor can support. If we’re lucky, the decline will bottom out before it gets down to the medieval level—some of our scientific and technological achievements are potentially sustainable, and might keep economic life above the sheer subsistence level if they’re preserved and deployed in time—but in any possible future, the great majority of people will be producing goods and services for their own use and for that of their neighbors, rather than laboring for the benefit of the vast and unsustainable government, corporate, and institutional juggernauts of our day.

    That Untraversed Land

    #89721
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ I opened with these two pieces because​ where we might go and how we might get there seem to be questions that I should personally work on, at street level, not a lofty perch. Right now, for the next 3 weeks, I am perched in a public health clinic, a Federally Qualified Health Center, which began in 1970 as “The People’s Free Clinic” in a church basement across the street from the UT campus. I remember going by there as a student, and seeing people waiting outside the basement steps for their friends. A friend of mine at the co-op where I lived, Sam, was proud to go there. There is a black and white photo of the volunteer staff in that basement one day in the 1970s, with some of their kids and babies; one fellow not wearing a shirt that day. I knew some of those people, and I know one of the babies. She’s a Nurse, now.
    The clinic, now in a very expansive, open and expensive new building, is effectively an arm of the federal government, and compliance is far more important to the survival of the clinic as an entity, than is taking care of any particular patient. It has become incorporated into a nationwide compliance bureaucracy, even as it has professed it’s earlier ideals, with earnest countenance..
    There is no way out of this kind of success, not that I can see. It is what has happened to medicine. I cannot go see people for free, or what they can pay, because I would make about what a teacher makes, or less, and I would be breaking so many laws and regulations, that I would be a criminal for my efforts. I did something like this with support from Luling, Texas from 1992-1994. It was the hardest I ever worked. They paid 2 office employees and gave me half a mobile building for a clinic. I did hospital and ER work and delivered babies and did c-sections, and made what Jenny had made as a first through third year teacher. Texas Medicaid reliably paid me $19 per clinic visit and about $560 per baby delivered. Individuals and most insurance (Medicare and commercial) typically just failed to pay me.
    Those were the good days. They are over. I’m older, too.
    I am about to work the last 3 weeks before the vaccine mandate takes effect November 1, 2021. I am not seeing any job postings for unvaccinated doctors, and any place that is hiring now is in the “intermediation” business, and needs doctors to crank patients through the line, one-problem-per-visit, as if that’s how people’s needs are met. I’ve never been able to do that, and I’m sort of an old-dog at this point; unlikely to learn that trick.
    Jenny is still working as a school librarian. I have vegetable gardening, the Yoakum homestead, meditation/prayer and am assessing and chronicling the patch of history we are navigating together. I’m a good doctor, but without a format in which to legally practice medicine.
    I’ll see if a practice opportunity presents itself I’ll work on vegetable gardening systems for central Texas, and on “the economy” at a personal and local scale, with as little “intermediation” as possible.
    Cash is going to work better than digital central bank currency, at least for the persons, not for the central banks. Vote with your cash transactions.

    #89722
    John Day
    Participant

    You’ll own nothing, have no privacy and be happy…
    “Programmable Digital Currency”: The next stage of the new normal?The war on cash’s endgame is here: money replaced by vouchers subject to complete state control.
    Building on the bitcoin model, central banks are planning to produce their own “digital currencies”. Removing any and all remaining privacy, granting total control over every transaction, even limiting what ordinary people are allowed to spend their money on.

    “Programmable Digital Currency”: The next stage of the new normal?

    How is the Davos World Economic Forum involved in the coronavirus pandemic?​ …
    ​ ​First, the WEF was, together with the Gates Foundation, a sponsor of the prescient “Event 201” coronavirus pandemic simulation exercise, held in New York City on October 18, 2019 – the same day as the opening of the Wuhan Military World Games, seen by some as “ground zero” of the global pandemic. China itself has argued that US military athletes may have brought the virus to Wuhan.
    ​ ​Second, the WEF has been a leading proponent of digital biometric identity systems, arguing that they will make societies and industries more efficient, more productive and more secure. In July 2019, the WEF started a project to “shape the future of travel with biometric-enabled digital traveler identity management”. In addition, the WEF collaborates with the ID2020 alliance, which is funded by the Gates and Rockefeller foundations and runs a program to “provide digital ID with vaccines”. In particular, ID2020 sees the vaccination of children as “an entry point for digital identity.”
    ​ ​Third, WEF founder Klaus Schwab is the author of the book COVID-19: The Great Reset, published in July 2020, which argues that the coronavirus pandemic can and should be used for an “economic, societal, geopolitical, environmental and technological reset”, including, in particular, advancing global governance, accelerating digital transformation, and tackling climate change.
    ​ ​Finally, the WEF has been running, since 1993, a program called “Global Leaders for Tomorrow”, rebranded, in 2004, as “Young Global Leaders”. This program aims at identifying, selecting and promoting future global leaders in both business and politics. Indeed, quite a few “Young Global Leaders” have later managed to become Presidents, Prime Ministers, or CEOs (​Hey, there are lots of neoliberal prime ministers on that list, names we know, and Bill Gates, too​).

    The WEF and the Pandemic

    #89723
    Kassandra
    Participant

    “Masks, sanitizer, distancing, regular hand washing, and more sleep have all made a huge difference to me — like night and day.”

    What if it was just people not going to work/out/school when they were sick, like people always should have been doing? I’ve worked in office building in a major city most of my life, people showed up sick for work all the time.

    I used to get sick fairly regularly, but then started doing a better job washing my hands after my commute (a 30 minute commute on a subway in one of the biggest US cities). For several years I didn’t get sick after that. No masks, no sanitizer, no distancing, just became more aware of touching my face, and started washing my hands with soap when I got to the office, and after the bathroom, eating, going outside, etc. Reduced my sickness by 90%+.

    #89726
    John Day
    Participant

    Any doctor in New Delhi would take ivermectin based treatment these days. They are completely familiar with it.​
    NEW DELHI, Oct 8 (Reuters) – Merck & Co’s (MRK.N) experimental antiviral drug molnupiravir has not shown “significant efficacy” against moderate COVID-19, a source with the Drug Controller General of India said.​..
    ​ ​Aurobindo Pharma Ltd wants to discontinue a late-stage trial of molnupiravir in moderate COVID-19 patients, the regulator’s expert committee said on Friday.
    “There is no significant efficacy against moderate COVID and the effective efficacy is towards mild cases,” the source said on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the discussions.
    ​https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/merck-drug-less-effective-against-moderate-covid-india-regulatory-source-2021-10-08/

    Ivermectin is so much safer than Tylenol.
    ​ ​As it turns out, all the scientists and doctors who insisted that Merck’s “revolutionary” COVID drug molnupiravir is extremely safe weren’t faithfully adhering to “the science” after all. Because according to a report published Thursday by Barron’s, some scientists are worried that the drug – which purportedly cut hospitalizations in half during a study that was cut short – could cause cancer or birth defects.​ ​
    ​ ​Dr. Shuntai Zhou, a scientist at the Swanstrom Lab at UNC, said “there is a concern that this will cause long-term mutation effects, even cancer.”
    ​ ​Zhou says that he is certain that the drug will integrate itself into the DNA of mammalian hosts. “Biochemistry won’t lie,” he says. “This drug will be incorporated in the DNA.”
    ​ ​Merck hasn’t yet released any data from its animal studies, but the scientists believe that it would take long-term studies to show that the drug is truly totally safe.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/proceed-caution-your-own-peril-mercks-covid-super-drug-poses-serious-health-risks

    #89728
    John Day
    Participant

    Comment entries are just not posting this morning. It’s pretty spotty.

    #89729
    John Day
    Participant

    The pop-up comment says I already submitted it, but it never took it…

    Piecing it out…
    Merck Asks FDA For Emergency Approval Of New COVID Drug Despite Safety Concerns​
    The $700 course of the pill is meant to be taken at home as four capsules twice a day for five days, constituting a total of 40 pills.​ (It costs 13 cents in India.)
    ​https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/merck-asks-fda-emergency-approval-new-covid-drug-despite-safety-concerns

    #89733
    John Day
    Participant

    The filter just won’t let the J.Post link in, the one showing that 81 mg per day aspirin saves lives, when people taking it catch COVID, and it even helps them not catch it as much.

    Second to the last item…
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/10/again-why-shortages-are-permanent.html

    #89734
    John Day
    Participant

    Bill Gates is a Wanker Song (“Protected political speech”, as I understand it.) Thanks P.D.
    I can’t keep from smiling when this video plays. 🙂

    Little Guy pictured with growing banana plants
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/10/again-why-shortages-are-permanent.html

    #89735
    chooch
    Participant

    One law firm’s take from the implementation side. My help with prospective if your up against the 12/8 deadline.

    Link for Vaccine Policy Playbook

    https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/publications/Seyfarth_Vaccine-Policy-Playbook.pdf

    #89736

    Gee golly, Ilargi, thanks for that “Ode to Joy”!
    What a way to start my day!

    #89737
    Germ
    Participant

    Great read from Kunstler today!

    The Waiting Is The Hardest Part

    #89738
    Dimitri
    Participant

    Manipulating the data

    “ The publication was released by the Israeli Public Emergency Council on October 5 and distributed in Israel and abroad. And then something unexpected happened: within 24 hours from the release, the airport positive cases entry history was re-written by the Ministry of Health, drastically changing the vaccination status of the daily confirmed cases going backward over a period of months.

    “For example (as can be seen it in the screenshots below, released by the council), if originally on a given day there were 118 vaccinated confirmed cases vs 242 unvaccinated – it suddenly became 10 vaccinated vs. 350 unvaccinated,” Koren explains. “That is, blatant changes, which our examination shows were made over months. They did not just ’round’ corners – but actually drastically re-wrote the whole history.”

    https://stephenc.substack.com/p/the-israeli-moh-caught-red-handed

    #89740
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Southwest in a muddle.

    Pilotless aircraft carriers, here we come!

    #89741
    zerosum
    Participant

    THE SURVIVORS –
    Natural immunity for a SARS-type virus is robust, long-lasting, and broadly effective even in the case of mutations, generally more so than vaccines.

    Natural Immunity and Covid-19: Twenty-Nine Scientific Studies to Share with Employers, Health Officials, and Politicians
    https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/
    ——–
    It seems that China and India have less covid cases, (natural immunity?), than the most vaccinated countries

    Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people Oct 10 2021

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases

    China – .02
    India – 14.04
    Qatar – 24.91
    Israel – 253.25
    United States – 281.8
    ( Somebody is lying and making the numbers lie.)
    ———–

    #89742
    zerosum
    Participant

    Its growing (waiting for John) 🙂
    That Untraversed Land
    October 6, 2021John Michael Greer

    That Untraversed Land


    Black market​
    ​Many of them are finding work in the underground economy. That’s a huge economic sector these days. How many people make a living doing work outside ordinary employment and getting paid “under the table,” as the phrase is, is for obvious reasons a hard question to answer, but it’s quite possibly in the tens of millions. Working in the underground economy is an effective way to get out from under the burden of intermediation, so that both parties in an economic transaction can keep most or all of the value they exchange. That’s going to become even more significant a fraction of the economy in the years ahead.

    #89743
    John Day
    Participant

    @Zerosum: I can’t work as a doctor without a vast, ongoing compliance overhead and employees to run it, and software rentals, andhardware, so I cannot practice medicine at all without being “intermediated”.

    #89744
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ John Day
    I believe you.
    “Bartering” is almost impossible in a complex social/economic system.
    I guess, Money was invented to simplify the exchange of goods and services.

    #89745
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ Raul – many thanks for the Beethoven flash mob…I’m inspired to use it for the music class I teach this afternoon. 🙂

    I welcome people realizing what is going on and working in concert to overthrow the parasitic class.
    I am also greatly concerned. There is great danger on all sides.

    Why?
    The other day Veracious Poet mentioned that “it is us vs. them.”

    This is not incorrect. However, I’ve heard the US government labeled “inverted totalitarianism” (prior to Covid)…one of the characteristics that made it different from usual totalitarianism is that our tyrants don’t name themselves. Oh, sure, we can presume Gates, Soros, the Rockefeller family, the Rothschilds, etc. are deeply involved. And we know who some of their lackeys are: Fauci, Walenski, Daszak. But…Biden? He’s a doddering old fool. The administrations of medical facilities? — most are beholden to a board, need their jobs, got jabbed themselves, etc. That doesn’t excuse them — but they are not our enemies, they did not frame this situation — they are lost.

    We can identify “us” as those who refuse the mask, refuse the shot…but everyone else IS NOT “they.”

    Oxymoron: “ A clients husband won’t even remain in the same house when I turn up to garden and drives to their other property and will no longer refer to me by name or in the first person.”

    The media, the political parties, et al., have been trying to divide the people for decades. It has been largely successful. My friends who “lean left” believe what the media tells them about people “on the right” because they don’t have any friends or family who “lean right.” They are scared of the Proud Boys, horrified by the “insurrection” of Jan. 6, have never met anyone who is “antifa,” and think Trump is the right’s supreme leader. I have family who “lean right” — in many cases, I am the only person they know who “leans left.” They share with me that although they are not racist that BLM is an evil organization that wants to destroy the nuclear family, that critical race theory is an abomination that will warp their children, that “the left” and the Democratic Party are attacking freedom.

    I am in the middle. It’s quite a muddle.

    Who is “they?”

    Tucker called it a few days ago (10/8/2021) when he stated that the real divide is authoritarianism.

    If we do not take a deep breath, step back and TALK with those who lean differently than ourselves, we run the risk of painting “them” bullseyes on the wrong people!

    Yes, there are a lot of fearful people, and it is really easy to see them as the enemy. Every single fearful person out there is a potential ally. Many others who are going along with the mainstream narrative are simply duped. Dupes are not the enemy. Dupes are not even “co-conspirators.” Like Jesus said on the cross, “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.” (Yup, I reveal my Christian roots.). I have so many left leaning friends who are scared and/or who are duped. I have so many right leaning family who are scared and/or who are duped. I love these people. They do much good in the world.

    This pandemic is a war of sorts — a war of the parasitical elites upon the rest of us. However, it is not a traditional war. It is not even a traditional guerrilla type war. Waging a typical war response or guerrilla response is not going to win this war. The true instigators are shielded behind layers of the fearful, the duped, and even further back we find only the lackeys. What we are truly fighting is the idea that “some are more equal than others” — that some have the right/ability to direct the human agenda to serve their own small interests to the detriment of the interests of everyone else. (“Enlightened self interest” is not a problem when one’s power does not extend very far beyond one’s self. Beyond the interest of self, there needs to be a balanced interest in the family/community — I’m not talking about where the family/community dictates to the individual, but where the individual works out for themself, on individual terms, how to engage with and support the family/community organism. The family/community organism thus takes on the characteristics of the sum total of these interactions.)

    When we feel threatened we want to fight/flee/freeze/fawn. When we are trapped, feeling that threat response and cannot act to correct the situation quickly, it wounds us psychologically. We must find ways to constructively use and discharge the threat response energy, to preserve our psychological well-being, that promotes the cause of freedom over authoritarianism, and that serves to dispel the fear of the frightened and the propaganda that binds the duped.

    This is not an easy thing to do. It is easier to paint a “them” bullseye and fight. But that pathway leads to inaccurate bullseyes, unnecessary “collateral damage,” and the weak, the vulnerable, and innocents will be harmed. Even more dangerous — down that path, we run the risk of using up all of our energy and ability fighting those who are not our enemies, and open ourselves up to losing the war and losing our freedom.

    We need to be our best selves. We need to be both savvy and wise. Yes, we must act to preserve our sanity, and yes, we must walk deliberately.

    #89746
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ phoenixvoice
    “We need to be our best selves. We need to be both savvy and wise. Yes, we must act to preserve our sanity, and yes, we must walk deliberately.”
    Also, will salt help to determine if we are bombarded by deepfake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake

    #89747
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ phoenixvoice


    This pandemic is a war of sorts — a war of the parasitical elites upon the rest of us.

    I agree with this. It seems to be primarily an information war presently to coerce and control but that will change quickly when the time is right

    #89748
    Germ
    Participant

    Land of the Free!

    #89749
    Germ
    Participant

    Baton Rouge officials are now offering expungement for felonies and misdemeanors.
    The price: VACCINATION.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/iamjasonbailey/status/1446870606364958724

    #89750
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    The time will be right at the onslaught of the new plague in the mRNA injected population.

    #89751
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Ros Nealon-Cook:

    Registered Psychologist with the Psychology Board of Australia

    #89752
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Listen up, they’re coming for your kids

    #89753
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Oops, that escalated quickly. Vaccinated now more likely than unvaccinated to get and spread COVID in the over 30 age group.

    Denninger another home run post:

    “Specifically, if the impairment is only toward Covid-19; that is, this is some sort of VEI specific to Covid, then the issue ends there. For those with natural (recovered) immunity they don’t care and absolutely should not get the jab; indeed, if you’re recovered and take them you may destroy your protection in part or whole and wind up susceptible to repeat infection you would otherwise not be hit with! If you do that you’re stupid and may well win a stupid prize.

    But the 900lb Gorilla is that the impairment may not Covid-19 specific. In other words the impairment may be immune system generalized, in which case those who took the jabs are screwed because that immune damage could be long-lasting or even permanent, yet the protection against serious outcomes is specific to Covid. So yes, you’re “safer” against a serious outcome even while screwing everyone else, but at the same time you are wildly more-susceptible to a severe or fatal outcome due to, for example, influenza.”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243859

    #89754
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Images not posting again. I wonder what I’ve done wrong or it’s the software.

    #89755
    Germ
    Participant

    @Oroboros – indeed they are!

    #89756
    Germ
    Participant

    “70 Children For 5 hours Of Time
    You Can Recieve Up To $4500”

    #89757
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Some context on the Southwest situation. Not really a “sick out” but a convergence of events set in motion by HR and Corporate.

    #89758
    ctbarnum
    Participant

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