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    Salvador Dali Punta es Baluard de la Riba d’en Pitxot 1918-19   US Democrats and MSM are running down a blind alley, telling themselves there’s l
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    #50022
    zerosum
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    WHISTLEBLOWERS
    • France Rejects Edward Snowden’s Asylum Request, Fears Major Fallout With US
    • Julian Assange: Justice Denied (Sagir)
    Former Vice President Joe Biden called Friday for the release of the transcript of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as well as the whistleblower’s testimony, so the American people can “judge for themselves.”
    EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!

    MEANWHILE!
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack-drones-idUSKBN1W40NW
    JALALABAD, Afghanistan (Reuters) – A U.S. drone strike intended to hit an Islamic State (IS) hideout in Afghanistan killed at least 30 civilians resting after a day’s labor in the fields, officials said on Thursday.
    The attack on Wednesday night also injured 40 people after accidentally targeting farmers and laborers who had just finished collecting pine nuts at mountainous Wazir Tangi in eastern Nangarhar province, three Afghan officials told Reuters.

    #50023
    seychelles
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    I’ll keep on wondering why they [MSM and Democrats] always go with these false claims. Is there really nothing actually true that they can find? It is sheer laziness, are they all not all that smart, or are they secretly on Trump’s payroll?

    One thing is certain, the deplorables are increasingly developing the ability to recognize bad faith reporting and politics and they do not like it, which does not bode well for the “Democrats” in an honest 2020 election.

    #50026
    rapier
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    It must be understood that at least 60% of white Americans are fascist. It’s all well and good I suppose, if your stupid, to say that we must respect and adhere to the wishes of fascists, because that is how democracy works. Raul Meijer,the great defender of democracy and the will of the people. A plurality of them, whatever.

    Fascism as we know it grew out of the race laws in the old Confederacy of the American South. Giving legal sanction to racial segregation. Hitler much admired this making race a matter of law and bureaucracy, of the inferior races. I know IM is partial to the lowest race of Europeans, the Greeks, but it’s pretty obvious that blacks or mixed race South Americans are a bridge too far. So he’s sympathetic to the fascists. We just as well bend to their will.

    Besides even the Russian leader encourages fascism. It’s all the rage.

    Now I don’t know how long you can keep this AE gig going by sucking up to fascism. I suppose a long long time. What a way to use a life.

    #50028
    V. Arnold
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    I think most Usians have lost the ability of self reflection; that time one looks back and evaluates the route to the present.
    To call the US a looney bin may be accurate, but fails to evaluate and understand the details of the life as it is…
    The Punch and Judy Show comes to mind; but that which is going on, is far more sinister than that…

    P.S.
    Whatever have you done to poor Rapier? 😉

    #50039
    Dr. D
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    fas·​cism | Definition of fascism:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

    Mussolini: “The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State—a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values—interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.

    …everything in the state, nothing against the State, nothing outside the state.” P.S. including or especially religion.

    Charles Maurras: “What in fact is Fascism? A socialism emancipated from democracy.”

    Umberto Eco: “4. “Disagreement Is Treason” – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.”

    “”9. Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy” because “Life is Permanent Warfare” – there must always be an enemy to fight.” e.g. Russians and Deplorables.

    “14. Newspeak” – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.” i.e. political correctness.

    Emilio Gentile: “1. a mass movement with multiclass membership in which prevail, among the leaders and the militants, the middle sectors, in large part new to political activity, organized as a party militia, that bases its identity not on social hierarchy or class origin but on a sense of comradeship, believes itself invested with a mission of national regeneration, considers itself in a state of war against political adversaries and aims at conquering a monopoly of political power by using terror, parliamentary politics, and deals with leading groups, to create a new regime that destroys parliamentary democracy;

    2. an ‘anti-ideological’ and pragmatic ideology that proclaims itself antimaterialist, anti-individualist, antiliberal, antidemocratic, anti-Marxist, is populist and anticapitalist in tendency, expresses itself aesthetically more than theoretically by means of a new political style and by myths, rites, and symbols as a lay religion designed to acculturate, socialize, and integrate the faith of the masses with the goal of creating a ‘new man’” i.e. “Tiny-house” “Uber-renting”, social-media, social-pressure, and anti-capitalist. A new religion, belief, in this case in “Progress” and “Social Justice”, which must be supported as an element of faith beyond all internal questions and contradictions, and all misbehavior by its leaders, i.e. a ‘cult’.

    6. a single state party that has the task of providing for the armed defense of the regime, selecting its directing cadres, and organizing the masses within the state in a process of permanent mobilization of emotion and faith;” ie. Progressivism, ‘where we will be civil once we win total control and all our enemies are forever destroyed’ per HRC.

    7. a police apparatus that prevents, controls, and represses dissidence and opposition, including through the use of organized terror;” I.e harassment, protests, boycotts, snap firings, and Antifa.

    9. corporative organization of the economy that suppresses trade union liberty, broadens the sphere of state intervention, and seeks to achieve, by principles of technocracy and solidarity, the collaboration of the ‘productive sectors’ under control of the regime, to achieve its goals of power, yet preserving private property and class divisions;” I.e. Under a “cooperative” union of state, people, and corporations, technology will enforce compliance with the masses, or else, while as above, dissidents are un-friended, boycotted, banned, de-banked, beaten, purged, and murdered.

    10. “a foreign policy inspired by the myth of national power and greatness, with the goal of imperialist expansion.” i.e. articles of constant war, where any discussion of anti-war is as above, boycotted, discredited, boycotted, purged, and murdered.

    A. James Gregor: “Fascism was a variant of classical Marxism, a belief system that pressed some themes argued by both Marx and Engels until they found expression in the form of ‘national syndicalism’ that was to animate the first Fascism.” i.e. Marxism united with social pressure and corporate technocracy.

    Roger Griffin: “[Fascism is] a genuinely revolutionary, trans-class form of anti-Liberal, and in the last analysis, anti-conservative nationalism.” i.e. its arch-enemy is CONSERVATIVES, and Enlightenment Values of Justice, Free Speech, and Liberty.

    Etc, etc, for scores of pages, even in a cursory view.

    So What is Fascism? It is a MARXIST, SOCIALIST, TOTALITARIAN, quasi-RELIGIOUS, total SOCIAL movement, that wants to destroy the past, is violently revolutionary, believes in, uses, and exalts violence against dissents, and wants a gigantic, universal government that runs everything: corporations, people, society, war, state, controlled by and using a repressive technocracy.

    Yes, I know. I say it every day. But is that A) a Right-Wing ‘Republican’ dream, or a B) Left-wing, far-left, ‘Progressive’ dream? In other words, if the Right wants free speech, to be left alone, and the government to be so small it can hardly harass anyone, wants the government OUT of corporations, bailouts, out of spying, is for privacy, is against violence both in the streets and abroad, wants everyone to be armed and to defend themselves, and if Conservatives are inherent the Arch-ENEMY of Fascists, then…I’m guessing, as I’ve said, the Fascists are LEFTISTS. They are DEMOCRATS, they are ANTIFA. I don’t know what to say, this is Wikipedia, but you can check against Britannica or 70 years of history textbooks as well as Mussolini, Goebbels, etc.

    So if TAE is FOR free speech, FOR dissidents, FOR Justice, is AGAINST war, AGAINST surveillance, AGAINST seeing politicians-as-God, then I’m pretty sure they are also ANTI-Fascist.

    So if you are FOR all these things, then you may want to read a few wiki pages, a couple comprehensive books on Nazism, because you may have ended up on a side, and may be unexpectedly espousing a belief from a long history you certainly never intended, and which comes to a bad end. Or as one Stormtrooper said to the other: “Sometimes I wonder: are we the baddies here?”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
    If you’re flying a Black Flag, masking your face, and roaming the streets beating orthodox Jews and gay Asians in a struggle FOR social purges and AGAINST free speech, it just might be that you are the baddie.

    As for whether AMERICA is fascist, well, some portion of the population does indeed believe in infinitely larger government-as-god to solve all problems, are pro-war, and loves their Apple, Google, Facebook, and social media surveillance, who loves the CIA wiretapping Assange and the President, who wants to let billionaires like Zuckerberg, Dorsey, and Dudley pick our leaders, who are against Conservatives and Conservatism, think old Liberalism from the Age of Enlightenment and their document “The Constitution” are wildly outdated and needs to be destroyed, ignores laws and their equal enforcement altogether because power-is-all, who wishes to have universal power for the good of all, where all men will not discuss, but believe exactly and only what I tell them to. Or else.

    They’re called “Democrats”. Sadly, as it wasn’t always this way. And there are at least 1/3 of them, but most Democrats are still not willing to take up the rather-more-extreme positions of the far-left and Antifa, as seen every day in the news, as their party flees with Dave Chappelle to the sanctuary of the South Park Chick-fil-a. Most of America hates these guys and everything they stand for. And why? Why indeed? Only because, as illustrated not-even-extensively above, BECAUSE THEY, ANTIFA, the LEFT, ARE FASCISTS. America HATES Fascists. They want free speech, free jokes, and to be left alone by both the government AND Facebook. They will fight them as hard as necessary until all men are FREE again, oh, and especially in the South, as well as in the 95% of all counties: they are red and Deplorable. THEY are the ones fighting for the freedom to be left alone, and AGAINST the [rich, white] coastal elites in 5% of the counties. …But such has it ever been. Last time ‘round, the University professors, coastal elites, Time Magazine, were FOR eugenics, FOR Mussilini, FOR Hitler, FOR Nazis, FOR Socialism, FOR Technocracy, FOR turning the U.S. to Socialism, into Europe on the eve of Europe blowing to pieces. Look it up.

    After the war, of course, suddenly no one had ever been FOR those things, although it’s easy to read the rosters of the clubs they joined and the books they published, the accolades given on all those things. Nope! Same in France, for example, where the Vendee Deplorables were murdered for opposing the wonder and loving majesty of the Jacobeans, who were the cool Paris intelligentsia, the Antifa children of the rich middle class, putting on masks and fighting the man, who turned out to be Jacques the Cobbler and Francis the Farmer. Over and over, again and again in history.

    So which side are you on? FOR Liberty, Justice, Equality, Speech, and therefore self-defense, or for universal Government running everything, deciding everything, using oppression, fear, surveillance, billionaire-run mob rule against a defenseless public?

    My guess is, from the American character and 250 years of history, pointed up in the last 20 years of news, while being hammered as villains every day in the media, killed by the 30,000 a year, run roughshod with unpopular laws, we are NOT Fascists, more than 2/3 — maybe even 90% — are AGAINST them. Which is why all humans outside the terrified, socially-regimented Progressive cult wielding violent, oppressive power in the 12 blessed cities — that is, all us free men who won’t bow to their soy-based total authority — are hated with a murderous, white-hot fury. Beto and HRC promised they’re coming for us, and our backward, Bible-clutching families. We won’t obey, and never will. It’s the American Way.

    But don’t take comfort in that. America is practically the only man fighting against this technocratic, fascist, social totalitarianism of insider billionaires: if we go down, You’re Next. Stand up and speak while you still can.

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