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    John French Sloan Sunday, Women Drying Their Hair 1912   • COVID Deaths Plummet As Excess Mortality Falls To Pre-Pandemic Levels (McMaken) • Harv
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 16 2021]

    #75344
    Polder Dweller
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    Not vaccinated and no mask!

    #75345
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Sorry, tried to post a gif of Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion of the Bodysnatchers, but I can’t get it to work.

    #75346
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    A 1 hour 9 minutes interview providing a fairly broad perspective on what has been happening and why (well researched- see links) and what we can do to regain control of our lives

    #75347
    Django
    Participant

    Permaculture has also become infected by woke bunny huggers. I was banned from a permaculture site for suggesting that boiling water could be used to control ants.

    #75348
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Michael Reid: re;
    Interview 1638 – James Corbett Redpills the Permaculture Crowd

    OMG !
    Corbett is, IMHO, a wack job…
    A certified A1 wack job…
    I was initially attrackted to his schpeel, and it is schpeel…….
    Listen very, very carefully to the things he says…Then think about it…consider it…
    Doubt! …and then investigate…………………

    #75349
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I appreciated the piece from the Mises Institute writer about total deaths compared to recent years past. The most striking feature of the graph-lines he presented was the way the excess mortality literally fell off a cliff shortly after New Years Day 2021 and fell to slightly below the average for recent years by Easter Weekend. Absolute excess mortality is probably the best metric to use for making the case that McMaken presents because it’s the one with which you can’t really argue.

    [complete and total tangent] If we would have used Ivermectin and higher doses of Dexamethasone than the current 6mg a day standard, we probably wouldn’t be looking at those massive excess-mortality spikes for 2020. Just poking around on the Internet over the past few weeks has given me a serious appreciation of what a golden age of medical pharmacology the second half of the twentieth century really was. Another example of this are the three oral medications for type 2 diabetes that have allowed me to have a quality of life for a halfway-decent cost for the past decade that I otherwise would not have known. It’s very distressing to fully realize how the lust for power and money of our ruling establishment prevents ordinary people from benefiting from these amazing advances. My favorite example of this is the absolutely criminal prices that Big Pharma charges for mealtime insulin that people with advanced diabetes need to live. It costs only six dollars to make a standard vial of this insulin, yet Big Pharma kills countless diabetics every year by charging prices upward of 600 dollars a vial. No other country in the world does this to its diabetic population, not even Evil Russia. But a lot of people who have died of Covid have been diabetics or pre-diabetics, so perhaps America’s oligarchy just hates the country’s diabetic population. Nevermind the fact that it was this same oligarchy that flooded our food-supply with high fructose corn syrup starting in the eighties, which has a lot to do with why our rates of type 2 diabetes surged after 1990! [/CATT]

    #75350
    Germ
    Participant

    James Patrick with CJ Hopkins on the Covidian Cult:

    #75352
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ V. Arnold

    I watched the interview last night and felt many of the points being made were valid but I will dig much deeper. The idea of the few setting the agenda for the many and the resulting loss of freedoms, the idea of centralization especially into cities to support the industrialization of our economies resulting in disconnection with nature and destruction of community and loss of knowledge of how to live in ways that are sustainable. I think the Mennonites and Amish are good examples of what is sustainable but too much religious control for my tastes. In general I feel the way we are currently living and how we have allowed a small fraction of the population to amass such wealth is the problem.

    #75354
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    @ Mister Roboto

    None of my business, really, but have you considered following the keto diet to cure yourself of diabetes? I know someone who did it successfully. He’s loads fitter now and lost a lot of excess weight.

    #75355
    Germ
    Participant
    #75356

    Article I had already lined up for tomorrow:

    How To Cure Type 2 Diabetes – Without Medication

    One of Taylor’s most important new discoveries is that everyone has their own fat threshold: an individual level of tolerance for levels of fat in the body. “It’s a personal thing. It’s nothing to do with the sort of information that’s often provided about obesity, which is about average BMI and what the population is doing. The bottom line is, a person will develop type 2 diabetes when they’ve become too heavy for their own body. It doesn’t matter if their BMI is within the ‘normal’ range. They’ve crossed their personal threshold and become unhealthy.”

    And bit of a shocker for me -this is just the UK-:

    ..a disease which causes 185 amputations and 700 premature deaths every week..

    #75357
    zerosum
    Participant

    Who – “Make up your mind”
    http://www.visualcapitalist.com/

    http://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds-top-50-influencers-across-social-media-platforms/
    The World’s Top 50 Influencers Across Social Media Platforms
    May 14, 2021
    By Omri Wallach
    ——–
    This time – Its different – reporters and bloggers are saying the same thing
    http://www.aljazeera.com/israel-palestine-conflict

    http://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/5/16/in-pictures-world-rallies-in-solidarity-with-palestinians

    In Pictures: World rallies in solidarity with Palestinians
    From New York and Madrid to Cape Town and Baghdad, thousands protested against Israeli attacks on Gaza.
    ——-
    Punch line
    http://www.rt.com/op-ed/523862-big-pharma-us-op

    A new HBO documentary called ‘The Crime of the Century’ lays bare how firms like Purdue used bribery, dodgy marketing, and shady political deals to make fortunes by getting millions hooked on super-strong painkillers.

    While the efficacy of opioids for treatment of acute pain and end-of-life care has been well known, there is little incentive to develop and provide drugs solely for such patients, who tend to be few and far between and whose needs are often short-term. No, the real money is in long-term use in greater numbers. And this is where the dangers of pushing these drugs on patients with any kind of pain became increasingly clear.
    ———
    Lesson: How to lie by Liz Cheney
    greenwald.substack.com/p/liz-cheney-lied-about-her-role-in
    After Baier pressed her on the fact that she vested this story with credibility, Cheney insisted a second time that she never endorsed the claim but merely spoke conditionally, always using the “if these reports are true” formulation.
    ——–

    #75358
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “relief and, in the light of concern over the Indian variant, dismay”

    Because we can’t tell the truth or keep our brains from the beginning until the end of the sentence ‘relief’ is roughly the opposite of ‘dismay.’ But The Guardian regularly or mostly has sentences that contradict themselves before they finish, especially if they’re written by Luke Harding.

    As you say, the only people who wear masks now are those completely immune: children and double-vaccinated Democrats. Because we’re not in #OppositeLand at all.

    “Sweden Records 30,000 Suspected Side Effects from Covid Vaccines (RT)”

    Meanwhile, millions, billions, who were doing fine, give themselves sickness on purpose. For health!

    #OppositeLand. It’s not just for breakfast anymore. #Opposite means, “Opposite to all logic and common sense” if you hadn’t noticed.

    “ More Than 60,000 Ex-Corona Patients At The Physio (AD)”

    How many would this be in the States? I wish we could get a handle on this part, but what’s a side effect, what’s ‘serious’ or not isn’t easy to define. Not like they have red spots or something. As we noticed, even ‘death’ wasn’t easy to define. Yesterday’s article was attempting to compensate by accounting it in ‘lost-life-years’. Appropriate, but difficult.

    “ Toronto Cancels Entire Summer of Events (ZH) “

    Toronto has marked themselves the least manly place in the universe. We need to invade immediately. …But then we’d own Toronto and their useless sissy-men and have to deal with them. “Citidiots” Same problem they had in the Ukraine. Not like they have any wealth anyway: they’re in crushing black-hole debt and prosperity rests solely on irrational house prices. Well at least they’re being treated like whipped slaves for their lack of backbone. History’s kind like that. No soup for you. They’re fleeing to Florida, and not just because they can get health care and not die on the waiting list.

    “Liz Cheney Lied About Her Role in Spreading “Russian Bounty” Story (Greenwald)”

    Yes, but she’s a Cheney so obviously everything she ever says is a lie. When she says she wants fish, they bring her the chicken, just assuming she lied. But there’s still time. They can still arrest her and her whole family for war crimes. Then she can lie in court.

    excess mortality literally fell off a cliff shortly after New Years Day 2021”

    So, inauguration day to the very hour. Got it. Other people have noticed.

    The deaths via insulin prices and such wildly overwhelm Covid deaths over the years. No one cares. They’re still awesome, trusted, experts, we ask their advice on everything, read them breathlessly. Low-fat cholesterol. Statin drugs. Roundup is safe as water. Then Pfizer pays another small fine for killing another 10,000 people in some new “mistake” every year, and we can’t get enough. Next year’s the same. So who’s really the fault, the criminal here? Someone who killed your kids and you call him up to be babysitter again this week because you just can’t find someone else?

    What goes on with such behavior? Not theirs: I understand murder and money: yours.

    #75360
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    So, inauguration day to the very hour. Got it. Other people have noticed.

    A good example of why I usually skip over this guy’s rants. Something like half of what he says makes me blurt out, “WTF are you even talking about???”

    #75361
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    My note on the similarity between long-haul lyme and long-haul covid might be relevant to the article on physiotherapists treating covid, since lyme does a real number on joints and ligaments. I am currently playing with collagen and vitamin c treatment for my dog that was lamed by lyme. Interesting side bite though- got her antibody levels to an appropriate level using silver, after 2 unsuccessful 30-day rounds of doxycycline.

    Oh permaculture! Yes there are many who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. On anything bigger than a household level in a climate zone like mine (zone 5) it is not feasible unless you have an army of slaves to do your weeding, soil amending, digging etc. If you have wildlife pressures, you will need to net, and nets are not easily installed when your plants of all sorts are intermixed. What we do is we have areas of mixed plantings interspersed with rows of just one type of plant. The mixed plantings rows are fair game for the critters, while the single-plant-type rows are for us and get netted. We have about 40 grapevines, 400 row feet of raspberries, 80 haskaps, 10 plum trees, 15 cherry shrubs, 20 hazelnut shrubs, about 20 apple and pear trees, 20 black currant shrubs, a few pawpaw’s and persimmons. Because we do not have an army of slaves (just me and my better half, we plant everything in polypropylene. It is permanent (in place for many years). We roll it back for part of the season to expose the soil, then reinstall it during peak grass growth time.

    #75362
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    A point not to be missed in the article about the Harvard medical professor is that he does advocate social distancing. He says that wearing a mask gives a false sense of security and that masked people do not maintain social distance.

    #75363
    zerosum
    Participant

    Impunity – exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action.

    Israel did not take into account that the non-essential people of the world would oppose what Israel is doing.
    The non-essential people are letting their voices be heard. and are demonstrating.

    #75365
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “Sorry, tried to post a gif of Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion of the Bodysnatchers, but I can’t get it to work.”

    Funny, this very image crossed my mind the other day while thinking about all the finger-wagging tyrant wannabes that have been empowered by all of the authoritarian pandemic policies. These policies have created a new race of pod people.

    Pod Shriek

    You really need to follow the Joe Biden / Clarence Thomas link that Ilargi posted above. It shows Senator Biden for the preening grandstander he has always been. Watch him smirk while he blathers nonsense and sophistry to his captive audience.

    It makes you wonder how he became the most popular president in history, garnering ten million more votes than even Obama. So popular that he didn’t even have to campaign. He really should write a book outlining this powerful new campaign strategy he has discovered, so that other world leaders can profit from his political genius.

    #75366
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    It makes you wonder how he became the most popular president in history, garnering ten million more votes than even Obama. So popular that he didn’t even have to campaign. He really should write a book outlining this powerful new campaign strategy he has discovered, so that other world leaders can profit from his political genius.

    I think it was more a matter of broadcast and print media convincing a sufficient number of people that we all had to get behind Senile Joe in order to stop the Orange Nazi Russian Monster.

    #75367
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    RE: T2 Diabetes relief…

    Yes, quite possible and not all that difficult. My wife did it, and eats less protein than when she started, was diag’d pre-T2 about 16 yrs ago. It’s mostly taking conscious control of your diet and exercise. She’s Asian, and comes from a rice/noodles culture, family well enough to have a chauffeur (middle-class thing in Jakarta). She switched first to brown rice, then to quinoa. Lots of veggies, real whole-grain breads (if at all), NO SODA OR JUICE! We’ve both switched to sparkly water, and don’t miss the sugar.

    #75368
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “I think it was more a matter of broadcast and print media convincing a sufficient number of people that we all had to get behind Senile Joe in order to stop the Orange Nazi Russian Monster.”

    What’s the difference? But again you need to assess with your own eyes. I live in the city, you have biden/harris signs still in yards even though the election was last November. If you didn’t work for .gov/higher ed/healthcare/tech you weren’t voting for Biden for the most part. Was Orange Nazi Russian Monster true? If no then what else isn’t true? The truth will set you free………..

    #75369
    Mr. House
    Participant

    You must keep your mind open to all possibilities and change it when and only if what you’re told actually matches what you’re living. The TV and the internet have ceased to match the reality outside of your own door. I wonder why they don’t want people meeting and talking, but to stay within the TV internet lane?

    #75370
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Mr Roboto a question: go over the events of the past so many years in your mind. Do you see patterns? Who is held up as all that is good and who is shown to be all that is evil? Most of this comes from the TV, is it true? Is the country really about to be overthrown by white national racists? Why do we need the national guard in DC since Jan? Who is taking the 30 pieces of silver to do the Kaisers bidding? What industries are only in the state they are in because the majority of their budget is due to federal dollars? Who bites the hand that feeds? Why are conservative viewpoints censored and suppressed? Why was it ok to protest last summer, but not to go to church? Why was the healthcare industry endorsing protests that seemed to be sponsored by democrats but condemning all others?

    #75371
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #75372
    Noirette
    Participant

    Prof. Didier Raoult, an “infectologue”, virologist, the head of a major hospital + research facility in Marseille, France, demonised by the F. PTB / med ‘establishment’ for recommending hydroxychloroquine +, bashing Remdesevir, and pointing a finger at corruption in BigPharma (etc.) has a vid out that treats the (CPR pos. at reasonable cycle no) patients that his facility has treated for COV-19 (majority are out-patients) who have been vaxxed.

    They have seen 350 vaxxed patients, and according to the stats from this one facility that is ‘significant’ (statistically so he means), i.e. the vax has something to do with, is related to ‘infection.’ They saw 46 patients who fell ill after the first dose …Also from his numbers, he reckons the ‘protection’ afforded by the vax is around 50%, which he says is congruent with the literature if one reads it carefully. (Ok..) Those two points sound contradictory but aren’t…

    https://bit.ly/3hyraNQ

    The vax / no-vax comparison (webinar, F) shows 9,205 non-vax patients and 350 vax, from 1 Jan to 7 May 2021 (Me: possibly close to representing % of vax population during this time span? -> F is not a high vax country, and ramping up has been sluggish. In Jan ‘say’ nobody was vaxxed.)

    Hospitalised is identical, 4%, death also, 1%. The vax patients are a bit older (to be expected, older ppl more vaxxed), and far more diabetic, but not more obese.

    https://bit.ly/3tSdboz

    #75373
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “The day after the fire, at Hitler’s request, President Hindenburg signed the Reichstag Fire Decree into law by using Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution. The Reichstag Fire Decree suspended most civil liberties in Germany, including habeas corpus, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, the right of free association and public assembly, and the secrecy of the post and telephone.[18] These rights were not reinstated during Nazi reign. The decree was used by the Nazis to ban publications not considered “friendly” to the Nazi cause. Despite the fact that Marinus van der Lubbe claimed to have acted alone in the Reichstag fire, Hitler, after having obtained his emergency powers, announced that it was the start of a Communist plot to take over Germany. Nazi Party newspapers then published this fabricated “news”.[18] This sent the German population into a panic and isolated the Communists further among the civilians; additionally, thousands of Communists were imprisoned in the days following the fire (including leaders of the Communist Party of Germany) on the charge that the Party was preparing to stage a putsch. Speaking to Rudolph Diels about Communists during the Reichstag fire, Hitler said “These sub-humans do not understand how the people stand at our side. In their mouse-holes, out of which they now want to come, of course they hear nothing of the cheering of the masses.”[19] With Communist electoral participation also suppressed (the Communists previously polled 17% of the vote), the Nazis were able to increase their share of the vote in the 5 March 1933 Reichstag elections from 33% to 44%.[20] This gave the Nazis and their allies, the German National People’s Party (who won 8% of the vote), a majority of 52% in the Reichstag.[20]

    While the Nazis emerged with a majority, they fell short of their goal, which was to win 50–55% of the vote that year.[20] The Nazis thought that this would make it difficult to achieve their next goal, passage of the Enabling Act giving Hitler the right to rule by decree, which required a two-thirds majority.[20] However, several important factors weighed in the Nazis’ favour, mainly the continued suppression of the Communist Party and the Nazis’ ability to capitalize on national security concerns. Moreover, some deputies of the Social Democratic Party (the only party that would vote against the Enabling Act) were prevented from taking their seats in the Reichstag, due to arrests and intimidation by the Nazi SA. As a result, the Social Democratic Party would be under-represented in the final vote tally. The Enabling Act passed easily on 23 March 1933, with the support of the right-wing German National People’s Party, the Centre Party, and several fragmented middle-class parties. The measure went into force on 24 March, effectively making Hitler dictator of Germany.[21]

    The Kroll Opera House, sitting across the Königsplatz from the burned-out Reichstag building, functioned as the Reichstag’s venue for the remaining 12 years of the Third Reich’s existence.[22] “

    #75374
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    MQ remarked that Biden didn’t even campaign, and the point I was trying to make is that the media did his campaigning for him. And I’m sure many in the media who did this realized that were it not for their efforts, Biden would have gone down like the Titanic on his own merit. There is where I think the difference about which you inquire lies. Legacy media, at least for now, still has quite a bit of pull with at least some people in this country, though the percentage continues to drop.

    Full disclosure: I’m probably the only person here who voted for Biden/ Harris, and I pretty much had three clothespins on my nose when I did so. I could go into my policy reasons for my reluctant decision, but I don’t at all feel like arguing about any of those. The “ueber-reason” was that the religious right, my old nemesis from the anti-LGBT culture-wars of the eighties and nineties, was becoming the most powerful and motivated faction in Trump’s broad and janky coalition, and it was difficult not to view this development with alarm. And I suppose I also kind of let Marianne Williamson and Contrapoints (YouTuber Natalie Wynn) cajole me into it.

    Though if a working-class person voted for Trump because of the disastrous economic effect of that stupid, terrible lockdown-response to Covid promoted by the blue-state-big-city establishment, to be completely honest, I couldn’t blame them at all for that. I’m already starting to feel as though I might have miscasted my vote. (I appreciated Biden’s big speech last month, but I am dubious at best at how many of those big plans are really going to happen.) I can imagine myself shaking my head and wondering why I did that as soon as January of next year. I came so close to just casting my vote for a third party as I did in 2016 that for a few weeks after the election, I actually told people on the Internet that this is what I did.

    #75375
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I didn’t vote, what if trump was just a stooge to discredit all ideas that have held sway in the past. Someone to make the “great reset” seem more preferable. I do not know these things, what i do know is that what i’m told isn’t the truth.

    #75376
    Mr. House
    Participant

    the religious right……..

    “He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you”

    #75377
    Django
    Participant

    I see that the Picasso shown a few days ago was sold for nearly double what Christies was expecting. I wonder why those who can afford Picassos are changing paper for canvas Maybe they just really love art..

    #75378
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Regarding AZ 2020 election…I’m wondering about the vote tally receipts from the machines? I was a poll worker here in 2003. At the end of the day, once the ballots are counted, they print a receipt with the vote tally. Unless the machines are different ones than 17 years ago, and have built in cell service, they are not linked to the internet while at the poll location. It does look like this is a hot mess.

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    Hmm..I like permaculture and animals…I wonder how many of the “bunny huggers” have actually had to deal with animal pests. I would have no qualms about pouring boiling water on ants…although my favorite way of dealing with them in the house is a vacuum and caulking to plug up where they entered. How is boiling water significantly different than diatomaceous earth, which cuts ants? I often get bit by ants while gardening…it’s awful. And rats are cute, but the damage they inflict to my home is not, and they are not so easy to remove.

    Permaculture, like most things, (like critical race theory, like Covid fear,) can be taken too far and turn into a nonsensical religion of sorts.

    In Phoenix, I wouldn’t use plastic as a weed cloth — it would get destroyed too quickly by the intense sun here. In the summer, weed cloth isn’t necessary at all. All that needs to be done is to get the water only to the plants you want to have survive the summer. Everything else (that isn’t desert adapted, such as cactus, and even some of those don’t make it) dries out and dies before the monsoons hit in late June (about the time of the summer solstice.) Most things still need water help during the monsoons, due to the high heat. (Last year…the monsoon rain never came.) In every clime, agriculture runs at optimal efficiency when fine-tuned to the local climate.

    The peaches have just ripened. I may have finally found a micro-climate in my garden amenable to strawberries — they are doing swimmingly, but will have to see if they can survive the summer in this location. The sunflowers are beginning to bloom; the calendula is drying out and the iris blooms have faded. Jasmine is a riot of scented flowers. Tomatoes are setting and growing — they have limited time for this before the heat becomes intense and they go into semi-dormancy over the summer. The roses and bougainvillea need major trimming. The almond tree is finally producing — looks like I’ll get a handful this year — and a few apples and apricots as well from bare root trees just on their second year here. The irrigation is just about ready for the hot summer ahead…still a drip at one of the sprinkler valves that needs to be resolved.

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    When not at stores with my children (have to cya due to their father) domestic partner and I are not wearing masks. Oh, I have one with me, in case a store employee decides to confront me…it isn’t efficient to leave without what I came for. So far, no one has said anything. The gentleman ahead of us in line at the thrift store also wore no mask. We got talking…he’d already had it, he explained. So have we.

    Just doing our part to stop the Covid insanity.

    #75379
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    A point not to be missed in the article about the Harvard medical professor is that he does advocate social distancing. He says that wearing a mask gives a false sense of security and that masked people do not maintain social distance.

    Jaap van Dissel (our Tony Fauci) was very much against face masks last year for exactly the same reason and made a point of arguing against them. He was overruled in the autumn by the Prime Minister who takes his marching orders from Mutti Merkel and, increasingly, Ursula von der Leyen. Needless to say, the case rate ramped away almost immediately after that.

    #75380
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “The Reichstag Fire Decree suspended most civil liberties in Germany, including habeas corpus, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, the right of free association and public assembly, and the secrecy of the post and telephone.[18] These rights were not reinstated during Nazi reign. ”

    Everything has been down hill since 9/11. Did we have peak cheap oil around that time? Who were the presidents right before and right after? Who did i see in a vaccine commercial recently extolling the virtue of getting it? Clinton, Bush 2, and Obama? I thought they hated each other? Give up your partisan nonsense and be pro human 😉

    #75381
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Was oil only cheap in the 90’s because we were raping Russia? Who came into power in the year 2000? What happened to cheap gasoline?

    #75382
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/att-advanced-talks-combine-cnn-discovery-and-other-media-assets

    More consolidation, i’m sure this will only lead to us being more “free”

    #75383
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    We did, in fact, have peak light-sweet-conventional oil in late 2005/ early 2006.

    #75384
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Has anyone ever watched the movie Snowpiercer? If so, why do those who consider themselves our “betters” not think along the lines of those who were at the front of the train? They’re just keeping everything in balance!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowpiercer

    #75385
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Sharing the news
    Eugene de Blaas - Sharing the News

    #75386
    a kullervo
    Participant

    We have a lot of words – why?
    Because we have a lot of hypothesis – why?
    Because we can’t grasp truth.

    Words are like fog.
    Some can use fog in very enticing ways – will they go blind when the fog subsides?

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