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    Amedeo Modigliani Nu allongé 1917   • Government Scrubs Stats on Vaccine-Related Deaths (Mercola) • Ivermectin Crushes Delhi Cases (DR) • Amid Co
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 20 2021]

    #75601
    Germ
    Participant

    A technical look at the importance of understanding Absolute Risk and Relative Risk.

    “COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room”

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext

    shows that the experimental vaccines reduce your chance of catching COVID-19 by:

    Pfizer: 0.8%
    Johnson & J: 1.2%
    Moderna: 1.2%
    AstraZeneca: 1.3%

    So, basically NO prevention.

    #75602
    Germ
    Participant

    You have to look at Table 1 in the Supplemental pdf. linked to the paper

    #75603
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Amedeo Modigliani Nu allongé 1917

    The art…the art…
    It defines us…
    …and has for at least 60,000 years…
    Without art, I would be at a loss to define us…as a species…with any relevence… in a world defined as civilized…

    #75604
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    …and my fucking edit was lost conpletely…………

    #75605
    Germ
    Participant

    We are turning China over here in the UK …

    #75606
    Germ
    Participant

    Enjoy the words of the late, great Alan Watt.

    He passed away just a few weeks ago – another great loss.
    For those who don’t know him, this is a brilliant video.

    What a visionary.

    #75607
    Germ
    Participant

    Since July 2020, lockdown Germany has had worse excess mortality than no-lockdown Sweden.
    But lockdowns do not work. Which is why lockdowns were never recommended in any pre-2020 pandemic plan.

    If lockdowns worked, this should be impossible:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1yc5VcWEAYZo3M?format=jpg&name=medium

    #75608
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Alan Watts?
    Hell, he’s been my teacher for 64 yars…
    An Amazing human…

    #75609
    Germ
    Participant

    @ V Arnold – Alan Watt, not Alan Watts

    The latter was the wonderful late, Englishman, buddhist who lived on a houseboat in Sausalito.

    Alan Watt was a Scotsman who saw the evil inner workings of the powers that be,

    Both had great messages for the world.

    #75610
    Germ
    Participant

    We all know of Ivermectin being an effective treatment for Covid.
    Now it seems as if another has come along.

    The selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor Fluvoxamine:

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773108?resultClick=1

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/existing-affordable-drugs-could-rapidly-reduce-covid-19-cases-and-deaths-in-india/ (check the author’s credentials)

    Seems as if the two, in combination, are very effective.

    #75611
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Test 1 2 3 test

    It seems to work. Thanks

    #75612
    Germ
    Participant

    Extraordinary what money can buy.

    “Bill Gates’s money and his influence on British universities”

    Bill Gates’s money and his influence on British universities

    #75614
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “I expect the Great Reset to fail. Completely.
    I also expect the Great Reset unleashes chaotic forces no one can control.

    Crooke rightly points out that Mao’s Cultural Revolution quickly got away from him and became an absolute mess which eventually had to be put down. He agrees with me that the ‘fabulist’ program of the Great Reset both from a domestic and foreign policy perspective across Europe and the U.S. will fail.

    And it will most likely fail. The stresses imposed on U.S. societal cohesion by the launch of the woke cultural revolution may prove too great. The Chinese Cultural Revolution, launched by Mao (as part of his 1966 purge of Party rivals), very quickly devolved into a decentralized, semi-chaotic movement of Red Guards, students and other groups who shared ideas and programs, but who acted quite independent of the Party’s central leadership.

    … In any ideologically-possessed movement there is no purity test too stringent to weed out the uncommitted. Purity tests are themselves gyres of increasing intolerance. This is what Mao learned the hard way.”

    The Tightening Noose or Widening Gyre of the Woke Revolution?

    But you knew we were never going to walk away after what we, what had been done. Total dereliction of duty. Near-total abandonment of values. Near-total erasure of all production and infrastructure.

    News: “Today we voted here in Oregon to leave the state and join Idaho. Great forecast. WJ”

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/greater-idaho/

    Meanwhile West Oregon may vote to leave the U.S., not just swap statehood. (and therefore become a colony of China CCP) B.C. might follow the same path. Western Canada has been at the limit for years and suffers no fools. Out on the deadly prairie, risking life on oil catting, how could they? For cube hamsters in Scarberia, Covid-abusing their kids? That’s against everything Canada stands for. Give your balls a tug, buddy, it’s f’n embarrassing.

    “Biden Permits Nord Stream 2 (Greenwald)”

    The only explanation is Biden is a Putin puppet. They said Russia rigged the 2020 election, here’s your proof.

    So much for MacKinder, a theory as wildly obsolete as the dinosaurs who promote it.

    “Colonial Pipeline Confirms It – IMMEDIATELY — Paid $4.4m Ransom to Hackers (AP)”

    What’s the relationship of this and the Memphis bridge and voluntarily shutting down the Michigan pipeline for no earthly reason? What relationship does this have to Bitcoin, the world’s most transparent, trackable currency? Sirs, — I – can track that Bitcoin to the end user. How do you propose to hide and to spend it? Would you like to revise your story now, cause this one doesn’t make all the sense.

    Pentagon Reportedly Running Secret Army Of 60,000 Around The World (NYP)”

    Talk about conspiracies! I can see why this would be true, but also why it wouldn’t. Do you have any proof besides mouthing off? If you were China, wouldn’t you keep a database of every soldier’s name, their family, their specialty, their photo? Why wouldn’t you?

    I have no relationship whatsoever to any intelligence services, be they Russian or Ukrainian or American, or anyone else.”

    Aha! Got you! Prove that negative or ELSE!

    “The downward spiral of dumbness in America is about to hit a new low.” –Hunter S. Thompson

    #75615
    John Day
    Participant

    @Germ: I have finally discovered how to access emails of people who subscribe to my blog http://www.johndayblog.com
    That functionality will go away in July, the notifications tell me.
    Until then, if you subscribe to my blog email-updates, I should be able to go in and see your email (give me a hint, though) and contact you individually. It’s just the emails that show up, no other identifiers.

    #75616
    John Day
    Participant

    I just posted this comment on John Ward’s site, The Slog:
    VACCINE DEATHS: time for another colour of card?

    I’m a Family Physician in Texas, working at a public health clinic, and treating COVID with ivermectin, zinc, doxycycline, and a baseline of vitamin-D for everybody. I bought and gave away over $1200 of vitamin-D to coworkers and patients last year, half of it shortly before Christmas, when cases were peaking in Texas.
    It is very difficult to report vaccine adverse events. You cannot get a human on the phone, and the words at the online reporting site are scary, warning of criminal penalties for inaccurate reporting, repeatedly A serious epidemiologic estimate is that under 1% of adverse events from vaccination are reported in the US. I believe it.
    I had a patient get very sick with COVID Pneumonia in March. She was admitted to the hospital with it, again, having been admitted in August of last year.
    She was sick enough to go to the ER 4 days after her Moderna mRNA vaccine dose #1. Coincidence, that?
    She went to 2 hospitals with her adult daughter, and had negative swabs. “Sorry, we can’t help you”.
    The third hospital tested her (+) and admitted her, with the typical patchy pneumonia pattern on chest CT.
    She got IV fluids and steroids, and recovered again.
    Why would 2 tests be negative and the third one positive?
    There are false-negatives and false positives, but the chest CT pattern has also been considered diagnostic of COVID since the epidemic in Wuhan.
    ERs use the rapid swab.
    A poor collection may read negative and a good collection positive.
    The rapid swab looks for viral proteins, specifically the calling-card Spike Protein.
    The (send-away) PCR swab looks for the viral RNA.
    This month, we are told that we MUST ONLY TEST THE VACCINATED WITH PCR.
    That’s odd. It delays results for 2 days and the PCR tests have more false positives, so less clinically reliable.
    Why only PCR tests now in the vaccinated.
    RNA detection vs. spike protein detection?
    Why would that even matter?
    It might have mattered in my patient, who got sick with pneumonia 4 days after mRNA vaccination, while her body was presumably flooded with COVID spike-protein fragments, and desperately fighting them, since they had almost killed her the previous summer.
    She could well have had spike-protein in her nasal mucosa, and it could have been detected by a nasal swab raid test.
    She should not have had COVID-19 RNA in any nasal swab, since that would have only been delivered into some cells where the vaccine went when injected in her muscle.
    Are the COVID-19 cases , which have a little spike after vaccination, a manifestation of the combination of the immune system valiantly contesting a virus it has fought before (or the spike proteins thereof), while the same enemy spike-protein is detectable in a nasal swab?
    You can’t definitively answer that.
    Only scientists at Pfizer and Moderna can. They are keeping a secret whether the blood borne blossoming of spike proteins from their genetic engineering products will result in some percentage of “False positive” rapid nasal swab tests.
    It is not a subject at all, anywhere.
    The other doctors, including epidemiologists, on the COVID-19 treating physicians listserv do not know, either.
    “Inquiring minds want to know” http://www.johndayblog.com

    #75617
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “The new artificial intelligence (AI) technology, called Safe Entry Stations…”

    The medical scanner booths use AI to determine whether “the individual is either safe (green light) or a potential risk (red light).” All that’s missing (?) is facial recognition software.

    https://getsafeentry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Screening-Container-Nano-2-1.png

    Screens for 7 Symptoms in Seconds.

    Fever
    Cough
    Exhaustion
    Congestion
    Sweat Gland Activation
    Eye Redness
    Headache

    Multi-spectrum cameras paired with prorietary AI provides checks for multiple sympsoms, concluding the individual is either safe (green light) or a potential risk (red light).

    Highly customizable, can easily be integrated into existing décor and lobbies with specialized finishing.

    720 SCANS PER HOUR
    Near-Real time screening

    MEDICALLY BASED
    Uses proprietary AI to measure a grouping of symptoms determined by a medically based algorithm

    Frequently Asked Questions
    How does the Safe Entry Station work?
    Will I show “positive” with a common cold or flu?
    How long does the system take to process a scan?
    How does the tech respond to people who are completely asymptomatic:
    What symptoms does Safe Entry screen for?
    Does the system require installation of any other hardware ?
    How does the PredictMedix software different than other fever scanners on the market?
    How Accurate is the technology?
    Will I feel anything while walking through the unit and being scanned?
    What kind of internet bandwidth is required for the Safe Entry Station?
    How is my privacy protected?

    NewHome

    #75619
    John Day
    Participant

    Picture in replanted Mexican avocado orchard included
    /www.johndayblog.com/2021/05/spirit-of-inquiry.html

    Here comes the hard-sell for COVID vaccination against children, young children. Why? Is it just mundane business greed? Is this meant to establish the precedent that everybody, always must accept messenger-RNA genetic engineering injections without thought or complaint? That opens the doors wide to that devil. “Just take genetic engineering shots with messenger RNA twice per year , like everybody else does, like your Mom made you do, when you were little.” Thanks John Ward Cases of the rare disease, called multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children, or MIS-C, totaled more than 2,000 in February and surpassed 3,000 by April 1, according to the CDC, which will soon update its tally. Vaccine manufacturers’ clinical trials have mostly focused on adults, and now almost 72% of those 65 and older are fully inoculated, according to the CDC. Meanwhile, young children don’t yet have access to shots, and companies are still studying the effects on them. Pfizer Inc.’s vaccine has been available for teens 16 and older, and won authorization Monday for ages 12 to 15. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/doctors-watch-warily-as-severe-covid-infections-target-kids

    Thanks Eleni. Global Banking Reset approaches: From the Notebook: The Coming Apotheosis of the Banks I’m not making predictions about that, but when you realize that with MMT banks like Goldman and Morgan are no longer needed to implement policy and the crazies have taken over the asylum, it may just be we’re far closer to the Great Sell Out of the banks than anyone has previously contemplated. Given that the entire COVID-19 story has collapsed and there’s no fear over it just the lasting divisions between the ‘masked’ and the ‘unmasked’ what’s the next fear on the horizon we have to look out for? tomluongo.me/2021/05/15/coming-apotheosis-banks-notebook/

    It is ALREADY a Multipolar World, and the US has forced Russia and China to ally against the Empire. They are stronger than the Empire. Dealing with it… Blinken, Lavrov seek cooperation despite ‘serious differences’ at first meeting (Look at that picture of them meeting!) Top diplomats from the Biden administration and Russia in their first in-person meeting on Wednesday stressed that the former Cold War foes have serious differences in how they view world affairs but struck an optimistic tone for the talks, saying the two sides can still find ways to work together. http://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210519-blinken-lavrov-to-meet-in-iceland-amid-push-for-us-russia-summit

    Proof of sincerity in negotiations…
    Biden, Reversing Trump, Permits a Key Putin Goal: a New Russian Natural Gas Pipeline to Germany
    That Trump was controlled by Putin and served his agenda was the opposite of reality. First Obama, and now Biden, have accommodated Moscow far more. greenwald.substack.com/p/biden-reversing-trump-permits-a-key

    US Stimulus gooses Chinese consumer manufacturing, Charles Hugh Smith As America’s trade deficit explodes higher and the costs of offshoring supply chains mount, the apologists for globalization are out in full force, attempting to shout down reality with their usual specious claims about how amazingly wunnerful globalization has been for America. Allow me to tote up the real-world cost savings: Cost of cheap ill-fitting jeans dropped $10. Cost of low-quality TV that will only last a few years dropped $50. Cost of healthcare, annual increase: $3,000 per household Cost of rent, annual increase: $1,200 per household Cost of child care, annual increase: $1,300 per household Cost of college tuition and room and board, annual increase: $1,500 per household So while domestic costs rose $6,000 annually due to predatory cartels, over-regulation, taxes, etc., we saved $60 by offshoring supply chains. http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay21/stimulus-trade5-21.html

    There are more than those 2 ways to engage the rightful inhabitants of Palestine, aren’t there? On the very day that Biden phoned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to urge de-escalation in Gaza, which the US President said would set the stage for a ceasefire with Hamas, the Israeli leader told a group of foreign ambassadors that the only solution might be to “conquer” the Gaza Strip.
    “There are only two ways that you can deal with them,” he said about Hamas during the Wednesday briefing held in Tel Aviv. “You can either conquer them, and that’s always an open possibility, or you can deter them, and we are engaged right now in forceful deterrence, but I have to say we don’t rule out anything.” http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-says-conquering-gaza-option-touted-imminent-ceasefire-doubt

    #75620
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    This whole Covid thing is driving me so crazy because I can’t get an answer to the big question of “Why?” Why aren’t doctors (John Day excepted) treating outpatients with ivermectin, HCQ or any number of other tried and trusted drugs? Why is everything being bet on black instead of trying to cover all the bases (mixing my metaphors there, but I hope you’ll forgive me)?

    Here’s the transcript of an interview Tucker Carlson recently had with Dr Peter McCullough, Professor of Medicine at the Baylor University Medical Center, Dallas, Texas and he asks that very question. Why Covid-19 treatment has been ignored and banned

    That Pfizer, Moderna and the rest want to cash in this year, next year ad infinitum, I get, but is it enough to justify deliberately withholding treatment of patients until they need oxygen? How immoral is that? How did they manage to get all the doctors, governments and health agencies on board? Surely there are enough people who can’t be bought?

    Then there’s the governments (particularly UK, Australia, but also EU) making the most of the situation to push through draconian freedom-limiting measures.

    Unfortunately, all this leads me into thinking way out wacky and very disturbing thoughts – what if the vaccines really do cause major problems a few years later (it’s not as if there’s no evidence that this might be the case), millions, no, tens or even hundreds of millions could die. Do the powers that be even consider this possibility or is that the entire point? Is this a cull, a thinning out of the overpopulated world? Who apart from certifiable psychopaths could possibly even entertain such a plan?

    #75621
    somenewlogin
    Participant

    I don’t believe I’ve seen this posted here before, it’s from The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons and is a guide on effective home-based treatment of COVID.
    They ask for donations, but you can access the guide without giving a donation.

    A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment

    Also noteworthy (and related) is this testimony in the Texas Senate from Peter McCollough:

    #75622
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    @Polder Dweller

    I believe I watched about half of the Tucker Carlson / Dr Peter McCullough interview before something called me away or I just gave up. What struck me was how Dr Mc pretty much danced around the ideas of criminality and WEF conspiracy in order to not sound like a crazy wackadoodle. I believe he knows much more, but refused to elaborate. He kept hinting at them, but always acted like there was this puzzling big open question as to why Covid is being handled as it is. “Something is up”, he kept saying.

    I understand that as a professional, he can’t go shooting his 44 magnum all over the place and expect to be taken seriously. And his soft-peddling does serve a purpose by introducing the audience to difficult ideas gently, but for those of us who already have a clue that this is all being orchestrated by the WEF globalists it’s a bit frustrating to watch. He made me want to yell, “Stop beating around the bush, and just NAME IT!!”

    #75623
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Proof of sincerity in negotiations…
    Biden, Reversing Trump, Permits a Key Putin Goal: a New Russian Natural Gas Pipeline to Germany
    – Dr. John Day, May 20, 2021 at 4:43 pm
    _________________________

    Well, … https://www.moonofalabama.org/ just made a minced turkey meat out of Greenwald, … and correctly so:
    Note To Greenwald – The ‘Russian’ Pipeline Is A Germany Need
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/05/note-to-greenwald-the-russian-pipeline-is-a-germany-need-.html#more

    … short snip:
    Greenwald seems to presume that it is the right or the job of a U.S. president to ‘permit’ pipelines between two foreign country? That is of course completely false. The U.S. has no right, duty or whatever to interfere in regular businesses between foreign partners. Such interference is in fact illegal under international law. Biden, as well as Trump, should be criticized for even thinking about ‘permitting’ it.

    Best,
    F.S.

    #75624
    Germ
    Participant

    My Sis in Law who’s been bleeding for 20 days since her shot now just got to see her Doctor.
    She told her that it could be expected at her age and it doesn’t need reporting.

    Something’s going very wrong.

    “Clinicians and front-line healthcare workers are advised to encourage women to report heavy menstrual bleeding or other extraordinary bleeding events post-vaccination formally into the vaccine adverse events reporting system and seek prompt medical advice. Public health agencies and regulatory authorities are also requested to investigate these incidences and issue further warnings, as this can, possibly be an early sign of potentially fatal vaccine-induced prothrombotic thrombocytopenia leading to rare CVST events in younger women.”

    https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n958/rr-2

    #75625
    Germ
    Participant

    Crazy presentation:

    #75626
    Germ
    Participant

    Lunatic Doctor!

    #75627
    Germ
    Participant

    New Jersey – it’s real !!

    https://tinyurl.com/43ds26e5

    #75628
    Germ
    Participant
    #75629
    Germ
    Participant

    Absolute must watch:

    #75630
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Germ
    Absolute must watch:

    I did; thank you…I think…
    Let’s see: a man made/created virus; escapes or let loose; a mad rush by big pharma to test their new vaccine therapies on vulnerable humans across the planet with no evidense of their (vaccines) efficacy…
    So, now we’re relegated to lab test dummies, er, guinea pigs…
    What galls the hell out of me is our complicity in all of this criminal behavior…the few that are awake cannot stop this horror…
    We’re being exposed as the helpless, controlled, subjugated bots that we are…
    Fear being the by word; how many will end up dead (as intended) by this foolish stupid human behavior?
    I’m just so fucking pissed/disgusted I can hardly even think…

    #75631
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @V. Arnold: “I’m just so fucking pissed/disgusted I can hardly even think…”

    I’m right there with you. My heart aches over what is being done. It’s beyond me how people are continuing to function in day-to-day life, mindlessly thinking this injected biologic and vaccine passports are sound ideas and will keep them safe. While I understand “how” this happened, it doesn’t make it any easier to witness. Or live through. (Full disclosure: my adult son got vaccinated with Moderna. I tried, but no rational argument worked. He “seems” to understand the risks, wants to travel this summer, and figures he’ll be fine.)

    @ Germ: loved the video on the VAERS analysis. Very well done.

    On the ground in NY (gotta love this state): vaccinated are now allowed in [some] stores mask less. The store gets to decide. I ran some errands today. Result:

    Target: there were no “mask required” signs on doors. Since I “identify” as vaccinated (lol – love that idea!) I went in without a mask. 100% of staff and 85-90% of the customers wore masks. I avoided the masked people as I assume they don’t identify as vaccinated. 😉

    Liquor store: there were no “mask required” signs on doors. I went mask less. 100% of staff and customers were masked. Except me.

    Loved every minute of it. 🙂

    #75632
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @V. Arnold: “I’m just so fucking pissed/disgusted I can hardly even think…”

    I’m right there with you. My heart aches over what is being done. It’s beyond me how people are continuing to function in day-to-day life, mindlessly thinking this injected biologic and vaccine passports are sound ideas and will keep them safe.

    Thanks upstateNYer for the support…
    Me, born in Queens; and then Locust Valley, L.I. a long, long time ago… 😉

    #75633
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Germ

    Enjoy the words of the late, great Alan Watt.

    Watt is a great speaker; a pleasure to listen to…
    I recognised the danger of TV many decades ago and got rid of my TV in 1994 and haven’t had on since…
    …but, there is new danger afoot…the internet…
    I suspect people will just replace watching TV with addiction to the intertubes…
    A much greater possibility of harm; but also a great possibility of good…
    As with most things, balance is in order…

    #75634
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Germ

    Watt makes a very critical point: There is, for all practical purposes, no one to speak for the people in any meaningful way…the West has gone completely off the rails…
    Neo-serfdom has arrived…and not so recently…

    #75636
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    I just made a rather long post which disappeared. Let’s try a much shorter one.

    Thsi morning I made a comment to an article in The Conversation talking about how alarmist reporting on covid will only heighten anxieties and drive vaccine hesitancy. I cited McCullough and wondered how someone like me can know what is credible and what isn’t. I got a reply from another commentator, not the author of the article.

    It cited Reuters Factcheck citing the CDC which says there is no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. (https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-deaths-idUSL1N2LV0NY)
    Also cited the Wikipedia entry demonising Robert F. Kennedy.
    Also cited a Guardian article (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/feb/22/melbourne-doctors-under-review-for-promoting-discredited-covid-treatment) saying that McCullough peer reviewed his own article, and his views don’t reflect those of Baylor Scott and White Health.

    After 12 months of reading and trying to analyse what is going on, my suspicious little mind has become very wary of the CDC and the Guardian and Wikipedia (and all the rest of them). No wonder the general public go along with the authorised and official opinions. They may not have the time or the interest in investigating, and neither would I if it weren’t for sites like TAE.

    #75637
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ezlxa1949

    No wonder the general public go along with the authorised and official opinions. They may not have the time or the interest in investigating, and neither would I if it weren’t for sites like TAE.

    Indeed! Thank the gods for Ilargi’s TAE…
    I do fear his literary heroism/information will make Ilargi and TAE a target for government censorship…
    We live in a time of lies, fraud, and punishment for telling the truth…
    It should now be beyond any doubt our literal lives depend on knowing what’s true and what are lies…
    The government duplicity regarding covid and big pharma is a life threatening event…already having killed millions…

    #75638
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    I always thought that I was well informed nerd. Not an ass-kissing people person. After the loss of the Vietnam War, there would be no more US colonial wars. The Iraq Invasion shattered that illusion.

    The COVID Pandemic debacle and the Vaccine Sell made clear that corporate news and private/public marketing are propaganda with little relationship to science or reality.

    Only after the same rare blood clotting reaction occurred in young women with the J & J and AstraZeneca treatments did I realized clearly that they both are literally gene therapies not vaccines. A man-made double strand DNA gene is inserted into a replication incompetent adenovirus that takes over the cell’s nucleus and codes the mRNA that goes into the cell to direct the ribosome to make the coronavirus spike protein which then sticks out of the cell’s surface when the cell breaks down triggering the immune system. The marketing is so through and repetitive I could not add 1 + 1.

    For example, a week ago, the Washington Post Coronavirus Newsletter answered an e-mailed question asking if the coronavirus vaccines change the nucleus. They replied no the mRNA vaccines do not enter the nucleus; completely ignoring the Adenovirus “vaccines” (J & J, AstraZeneca and Sputnik V) that must enter the nucleus to work.

    I read TAE, NC, Ian Welsh and Zero Hedge every day. If I was bamboozled, I have to believe all of my fellow neo-Serfs are too. Identity politics has so divided Americans into two ethnic/political silos, that the Overlords can rule as they wish.

    #75639
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Vietnam Vet

    Sputnik V is NOT an mRNA gene therapy parading as a vaccine…
    Sputnik V is a genuine vaccine made from one or two weakened cold virus, IIRC…

    #75650
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    V.A.

    From Sputnik V Wikipedia:
    “Gam-COVID-Vac is a viral two-vector vaccine based on two human adenoviruses – a common cold virus – containing the gene that encodes the full-length spike protein (S) of SARS-CoV-2 to stimulate an immune response.

    From COVID-19 vaccine Wikipedia:
    “As of April 2021, 16 vaccines are authorized by at least one national regulatory authority for public use: two RNA vaccines (Pfizer–BioNTech and Moderna), seven conventional inactivated vaccines (BBIBP-CorV, CoronaVac, Covaxin, WIBP-CorV, CoviVac, Minhai-Kangtai and QazVac), five viral vector vaccines (Sputnik Light, Sputnik V, Oxford–AstraZeneca, Convidecia, and Johnson & Johnson), and two protein subunit vaccines (EpiVacCorona and RBD-Dimer)”

    I feel the misdirection is intentional part of marketing jabs. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are human modified coronavirus spike mRNA encapsulated in lipids to get inside the cells and direct assembly of the spike protein. This is one step less invasive than the DNA gene viral vector vaccines which coopt two cellular process. The human designed gene in the virus takes over the coding of messenger RNA in the cell nucleus and the modified mRNA then directs the spike protein assembly in the ribosomes instead of more viruses.

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