Debt Rattle April 12 2026
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April 12, 2026 at 9:21 am #238001
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterThomas Cole The Course of Empire – The Savage State 1834 • Vance Says Iranian Regime Won’t Make a Deal (Salgado) • VP Vance Departs Pakistan After Fai
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 12 2026]April 12, 2026 at 9:57 am #238014Topcat
ParticipantAI First Principle:
Second Principe:
Nothing is Sacred:
April 12, 2026 at 10:02 am #238015Topcat
ParticipantJust in time for AI pigging out on Residential Electricity
At the current rate of decline, Glen Canyon Dam will no longer be able to generate hydroelectric power in less than eleven months.
It currently provides the electricity for millions of people.
Is this a great country or what?
April 12, 2026 at 10:22 am #238016Topcat
ParticipantTed “Low IQ’ Cruz:
“What happens if China invades Taiwan?”Answer:
Taiwan is already part of China Ted, what happens if the USA invades Texas?
April 12, 2026 at 10:33 am #238017WES
ParticipantThe Empire is demanding Iran hand over it’s sovereignty.
Iran said no.
Now, the Empire needs to mine the straits, so no one can use it.
Especially China.
April 12, 2026 at 10:37 am #238018Topcat
ParticipantStar Link

Musk doesn’t mention this, bad for investment sales pitchesKessler Syndrome: What Happens When Satellites Collide
The phenomenon of a satellite breaking up and pieces hitting other satellites in a chain reaction, leading to an exponential increase in space debris, is known as the Kessler Syndrome or the Kessler Effect.
This concept was proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler and Burton G. Cour-Palais in 1978. It is often described as a catastrophic domino effect or “collisional cascading”.
Key Aspects of the Kessler Syndrome:
The Chain Reaction: As the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) increases, the likelihood of collisions also increases. A single collision or breakup creates thousands of new pieces of debris, which in turn can collide with other satellites or debris, triggering even more breakups.
Cascading Effect: Once this process begins, the amount of debris grows exponentially, regardless of whether more objects are launched into space.
Long-Term Impact: This scenario could make specific orbital regions unusable, creating a “debris belt” that could disrupt satellite communication and make future space exploration impossible for generations.“Space Junk” Hazard: Debris can travel at speeds of up to 17,500 mph (roughly), meaning even tiny pieces of metal can cause catastrophic damage, similar to a bullet hit.
Current Risk: Scientists consider this a real, albeit slow-moving threat, with space debris levels already increasing significantly in recent years. Some studies suggest the “collisional environment” in some LEO regions has already reached a point of instability.
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April 12, 2026 at 11:08 am #238019WES
ParticipantCalifornia:
California Democrats like to use their women.
Obviously, California Democrat women like the attention.
So, Stalwell should easily win the California governor’s race!April 12, 2026 at 11:14 am #238020Topcat
ParticipantTotal Lie
Yet again
“U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) confirmed that two U.S. missile destroyers started clearing mines in the Strait of Hormuz on April 11”Iran can re-mine much, much faster than the Empire of Lies can do a half ass job of clearing them from the Strait of Iran.
For every mine ‘cleared’ twenty can be re-mining by submarine and underwater drones.
Too complicated for Trumptard’s low IQ to comprehend.It’s about Time.
Iran has Time on it’s side.
The longer this goes on the more pressure on the Empire of Lies to sue for peace in earnest
Missile destroyers weren’t design to ‘clear mines’, not their Gig.
.April 12, 2026 at 11:18 am #238021Topcat
ParticipantEmpire of Lies Clown Show Special
April 12, 2026 at 12:17 pm #238022those darned kids
Participant“We didn’t expect a deal in 24 hours. It must look difficult. The US needs to hand Iran the words that say whoever’s in charge there didn’t really lose. They must save face.”
whoa…
¿are you on shrooms?
April 12, 2026 at 1:03 pm #238057Michael Reid
ParticipantIran is the second strategic defeat of the west
April 12, 2026 at 1:47 pm #238058zerosum
Participant
It was not our fault.“we have not reached an agreement,”
The Iranians were NOT willing to accept our terms.
They were demanding massive tolls. ($2 million per ship)
The Iranian regime has been arrogant, demanding, defiant, and irrational.
They are fanatical fundamentalist Muslims, who believe Allah has given them a mission to destroy Judeo-Christian civilization.
The Iranian regime will never want peace with America and Israel.
Of course that is what we want, but we have been waiting for 47 years for the Iranian regime to aim for it as well, and they never have.“From the standpoint of America, we win.”
————-“.. they are LOSING, and LOSING BIG!
Their Navy is gone,
their Air Force is gone,
their Anti Aircraft apparatus is nonexistent,
Radar is dead,
their Missile and Drone Factories have been largely obliterated along with the Missiles and Drones
themselves and, most importantly,
their longtime “Leaders” are no longer with us..”
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BREAKING NEWShttps://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-trump-strait-of-hormuz-israel-ceasefire-talks/
Trump says U.S. Navy to begin blockading Strait of HormuzPresident Trump said in a Truth Social post on Sunday that the U.S. Navy will begin blockading ships from entering the Strait of Hormuz after talks failed to yield an agreement this weekend.
“Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz,” the president wrote.
Mr. Trump also said he has instructed the Navy to “seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran,” and that the U.S. would begin “destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits.”
“Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL!” he added.
The president said this weekend’s marathon talks in Islamabad “went well.” He claimed that “most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not.”
“The Blockade will begin shortly,” Mr. Trump said. “Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!”
By Kaia Hubbard
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116391828823240211
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April 12, 2026 at 1:51 pm #238059zerosum
ParticipantWill fear rule?
Tune in, to find out what will happen to your plansApril 12, 2026 at 2:47 pm #238060Michael Reid
ParticipantPress TV Exclusive: US destroyers’ Strait of Hormuz transit stunt failed, came close to destruction
Sunday, 12 April 2026 12:00 PM [ Last Update: Sunday, 12 April 2026 12:36 PM ]The US military’s attempt to sail two destroyers through the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday ended as a failed propaganda stunt timed to coincide with talks in Islamabad, a Press TV investigation has found.
The investigation, based on information provided by highly placed military-security sources, reveals that the US Navy destroyers came within minutes of complete destruction after attempting a high-risk passage through the Strait of Hormuz in a failed propaganda operation aimed at influencing Iran-US talks in the Pakistani capital.
The USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112) and USS Frank E. Peterson (DDG 121), both Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, attempted to transit the strategic waterway but were intercepted and forced to retreat by Iranian naval forces.
According to the investigation, the American destroyers and their accompanying frigates did not succeed in passing through the strategic waterway that remains closed for US vessels.
Press TV’s investigation found the American attempt to be an extremely high-risk move that could have easily turned into a disaster for the United States and its military.
The destroyers were only a few minutes away from complete destruction after Iranian cruise missiles locked onto the vessel and attack drones were deployed.
When the two destroyers and the accompanying fleet reached the mouth of the Persian Gulf, Iran’s cruise missiles locked onto them, and the destroyers were given only 30-minutes to turn back. The vessels immediately retreated.
They had attempted to use electronic warfare tactics, including turning off its position reporting system, in a bid to deceive the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) naval forces.
By spoofing their identity, they sought to present themselves as commercial vessels belonging to Oman, purportedly engaged in coastal transit in the southern part of the Sea of Oman, the investigation revealed.
The destroyers also chose a route very close to the coast and through shallow waters, taking a high risk to pass through this route and enter the Persian Gulf through concealment, deception, expecting that Iranian forces might be negligent during the ceasefire
However, the IRGC naval forces, while patrolling around Fujairah, had already detected the deception and taken swift action.
The USS Frank Peterson first tried to continue on its course but immediately realized that cruise missile radars had locked onto it, and it was stopped by IRGC vessels.
Simultaneously, IRGC drones flew over the two destroyers. The USS Peterson then received a notification on international channel 16 that it must either turn back and leave the area within thirty minutes or it would become a target of the Iranian Armed Forces.
As the destroyer insisted on continuing, a final warning was issued to it, such that the destroyer was only minutes away from being destroyed
According to the investigation, the conversation between the IRGC naval forces operator and the American destroyers indicates their full compliance with the IRGC’s warning
The investigation further revealed that the failed operation was specifically designed to exploit the ceasefire in order to test the readiness of Iran’s naval forces.
It also sought to have an impact on the negotiators in Islamabad, where high-stakes Iran-US talks were underway under Pakistani mediation.
The talks, which ended early on Sunday after 21 hours, failed to produce any breakthrough.
According to the findings of the investigation, the operation of the two US destroyers failed and was defeated in achieving both goals.
Support helicopters were also flying above the destroyers. Simultaneously with the warning to these two destroyers, all vessels in the area were warned to stay at least 10 miles away from them so that if they were targeted by the IRGC, the surrounding vessels would not be harmed.
The investigation also noted that the high-risk and botched US operation was the result of the expulsion of top military generals from the army on the orders of War Secretary Pete Hegseth in recent days.
The investigation found that the attempt to pass the destroyers through the Strait of Hormuz, which is firmly under Iranian control, turned into a failed propaganda operation, with the US placing a military operation at the service of propaganda.
Earlier on Sunday, a spokesperson for the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters categorically rejected claims by the US Central Command (CENTCOM) regarding the passage of American military vessels through the Strait of Hormuz.
“The authorization for any vessel’s transit through this strategic waterway rests solely with the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran,” Lieutenant Colonel Ebrahim Zolfaqari said.
In a separate announcement, the IRGC Navy warned that any attempt by US military vessels to transit the Strait of Hormuz will be met with a harsh confrontation.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/04/12/766678/us-destroyers-strait-hormuz-transit-failed-stunt-minutes-from-destruction-presstv-investigationApril 12, 2026 at 3:02 pm #238061Michael Reid
ParticipantTHE OUTLOOK IS BLEAK AS THE US LACKS THE BASIC SKILLS FOR DIPLOMACY IN ISLAMABAD
April 12, 2026 at 3:05 pm #238062Doc Robinson
ParticipantTasnim News reports that the “U.S. efforts to exploit ceasefire failed.”
Iran’s IRGC said that two US destroyers tried to make a surprising infiltration into the Strait of Hormuz yesterday at the start of the Islamabad talks by impersonating an Omani merchant ship, but both destroyers were forced to retreat at the entrance of the Persian Gulf in the waters of the Oman Sea without crossing the Strait of Hormuz.
(Tasnim News article translated from Persian)
U.S. efforts to exploit ceasefire failed
The U.S. attempt to move Frank Peterson and Michael Murphy through the Strait of Hormuz became a failed propaganda operation.
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said in a statement that yesterday’s attempt by the United States to pass two destroyers Frank Peterson and Michael Murphy from the Strait of Hormuz became a failed propaganda operation.
The purpose of the destroyers’ efforts to cross the Strait of Hormuz was to exploit the conditions of the ceasefire to make false achievements from the claim of crossing the Strait of Hormuz on the one hand and to influence the Islamabad negotiations on the other.
The efforts of the Patterson and Murphy destroyers have been described as an extremely risky measure that could have become a disaster for the United States. The Press TV investigation quoted senior military official as saying that the two destroyers Frank Peterson and Michael Murphy tried to make a surprising infiltration into the Strait of Hormuz yesterday at the start of the Islamabad talks.
The two destroyers tried to deceive the IRGC Navy by electronic warfare and shut down the automated positioning system. The destroyers were impersonating the Omani merchant ship, which intends to sail in the southern part of the Oman Sea.
These destroyers also took a high risk by choosing a route very close to the coast and shallow, so that they could only cross this path through secrecy, deception and hope for the neglect of Iranian forces in the ceasefire and enter the Persian Gulf.
Finally, both destroyers are forced to retreat at the entrance of the Persian Gulf crater in the waters of the Oman Sea without the possibility of crossing the Strait of Hormuz. The Press TV investigation says it was a very dangerous move for the military stationed on these two destroyers, which professional commanders do not naturally accept, but under the political pressure of the Trump administration and in the absence of ousted generals, the US military was forced to do so.
The inexperienced U.S. Secretary of War has in fact risked the lives of U.S. soldiers to launch a shot at the same time as the negotiations.
A move that, of course, failed, and if Iran was not in a ceasefire, certainly these ships were fat morsels
April 12, 2026 at 3:05 pm #238063Michael Reid
ParticipantMuch truth in this video
April 12, 2026 at 3:17 pm #238064Michael Reid
ParticipantAMERICA CURSED? – DEPRESSION INCOMING – TRUMP GOES APE & DECLARES NAVAL BLOCKADE ON THE WORLD
April 12, 2026 at 3:24 pm #238065Raúl Ilargi Meijer
Keymaster“We didn’t expect a deal in 24 hours. It must look difficult. The US needs to hand Iran the words that say whoever’s in charge there didn’t really lose. They must save face.”
whoa…
¿are you on shrooms?
No, I’m right. But go right ahead and believe the US is losing.
April 12, 2026 at 4:52 pm #238068tboc
Participantsalve for the wearied brow – ok it’s from wikipedia
“The Iran–Iraq War began with the Iraqi invasion of Iran in September 1980. After eight years of conflict, both countries accepted a ceasefire deal brokered by the United Nations, which became effective in August 1988. The war caused around 500,000 deaths (excluding numbers from the related Anfal campaign), making it the deadliest conventional war ever fought between regular armies of developing countries.” – wikipedia
Who can forget Operation Eagle Claw? history does seem to rhyme
only 46 years since that stunning success lead to a ceasefire.1. What does the world gain should The US and Israel prevail?
2. What does the world gain should Iran prevail?1.- Another century of naked agression.
2. Opportunity.How anxious are you to learn what asymmetrical involves?
April 12, 2026 at 5:03 pm #238071those darned kids
Participanteverybody’s losing.
do you eat?
April 12, 2026 at 5:36 pm #238073tboc
Participant@tdk
ribeye was $22.00 lb. at WalMart on Friday.
the lady of the house, a dedicated carnivore, ate sirloin.Seen through a wide enough lens, every one IS losing.
There’s not much shine to mass psychosis.April 12, 2026 at 6:09 pm #238074Michael Reid
ParticipantNegotiations will not save you: Khamenei issued an Ultimatum to the US amid his Thirst for Vengeance
April 12, 2026 at 6:17 pm #238075zerosum
ParticipantI’m right,
it’s irrelevant.
yesterday is gone.
Population declines are going to get worst.
Tomorrow is not pain free.April 12, 2026 at 6:24 pm #238077Michael Reid
ParticipantIran REPELS Two US Destroyer in Hormuz, ‘Peace’ Talks COLLAPSE – Trump RESTARTS War
April 12, 2026 at 6:28 pm #238078Michael Reid
ParticipantUnder cover of talks, Washington launches Deception Op in Hormuz | Ep. 202
April 12, 2026 at 6:33 pm #238079Michael Reid
ParticipantIsrael and Iran on the Edge: Is a Nuclear Scenario Possible — Krapivnik & Postol
April 12, 2026 at 6:37 pm #238080Michael Reid
Participantguest Robert Barnes. Busting the Amish criminal syndicate
April 12, 2026 at 6:44 pm #238081Michael Reid
ParticipantNima R. Alkhorshid: Trump Orders FULL Blockade on Iran – Talks COLLAPSE, Will This Spark WAR?
April 12, 2026 at 7:02 pm #238082zerosum
ParticipantI don’t remember:
Iran saying they want to have nuclear weapons.
Iran saying that no ships could pass in the straight.
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Soon, all shipping will be blocked/seized/pirated.
Soon, everything will be different than ….
Let’s see what happens …
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ParticipantApril 12, 2026 at 9:56 pm #238084chooch
ParticipantApril 12, 2026 at 9:57 pm #238085chooch
ParticipantApril 12, 2026 at 9:57 pm #238086chooch
ParticipantApril 12, 2026 at 9:59 pm #238087chooch
ParticipantApril 12, 2026 at 10:00 pm #238088chooch
ParticipantApril 12, 2026 at 10:00 pm #238089chooch
ParticipantApril 12, 2026 at 10:18 pm #238090zerosum
ParticipantPlay on words. It’s coming but it won’t be fun play.
Price Rationing:
The distribution or allocation of a limited commodity using markets and prices.
Rationing is needed due to the scarcity problem.
Because wants and needs are unlimited, but resources are limited, available commodities must be rationed out to competing uses.
Markets ration commodities by limiting the purchase only to those buyers willing and able to pay the price.Austerity:
the condition of living without unnecessary things and without comfort, with limited money or goods, or a practice, habit, or experience that is typical of this.A recession:
is a prolonged, broad, and significant downturn in economic activity.April 12, 2026 at 10:32 pm #238091Topcat
ParticipantSweet Dreams
The Emperor of Lies takin’ the piss on the People
April 12, 2026 at 10:35 pm #238092Maxwell Quest
Participant“We didn’t expect a deal in 24 hours. It must look difficult. The US needs to hand Iran the words that say whoever’s in charge there didn’t really lose. They must save face.”
I too was surprised by this comment from our host, and strongly disagree. From my perspective saving face is the least of Iran’s worries. It’s more likely that national sovereignty and cultural survival are at the top of the list. That poor nation has been under siege ever since MI6 and the CIA overthrew its democratically elected leader and installed the Shah in 1953.
If the current war were about curbing radical Islam, why are they importing them all into western nations at breakneck speed, then covering up the resulting cultural mayhem?
If it were about nuclear weapons, why not invade Israel and Pakistan to neuter them?
Just whose nation is(was) surrounded by enemy military installations?
It’s never about freedom and democracy, patriotism, or even allowing poor Afghani girls an education. These are said by the man on TV to manipulate your emotions to gain public support for illegal aggression. You know, things that would disgust you and I, like murder, robbery, and genocide. It’s always about resource control, Brzezinski’s “The Grand Chessboard”, and establishing a world government. Think Hunger Games. Think planetary depopulation.
We’ve watched the game played out in South America for a hundred years. Assassinate the democratically elected leader and install a corrupt strongman that we fund and control, the citizens be damned. If a group of nuns or other do-gooders get in the way, then kill them too. “Leave the gun, take the cannoli.” Today in no different. Only now we have social media and the internet. It’s hard to fool all of the people all of the time when they have access to non-state-sponsored sources of information. Thus, the EU’s panic over Elon Musk buying Twitter.
We all remember the “memo” that General Wesley Clark’s reported on back in 2001, containing a list of countries that were to be “taken out” in the next five years? In order they were: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. If you were Iran, wouldn’t you sit up and take notice after watching Iraq, Libya, and Syria get destroyed? Maybe dig some tunnels and work up some sort of defensive strategy?
And why is Brussels so hot-to-trot about controlling each and every EU government, going so far as to install their own bankers, interfering in elections, outlawing opposition parties, and calling election do-overs? That doesn’t sound like democracy to me.
And why is the EU so adamant about weakening Russia via the Ukraine proxy war? All the talk about raising and army and preparing young men for war? Where is this coming from? Certainly not the Irish, or the poor blokes in Liverpool who just want to have a job and be left alone.
No, it comes from the string-pullers behind the scenes, the secret cabals who put their own people in office so as to steer the fate of nations, make themselves wealthy, and operate above the law. The Epstein Syndicate are just their mid-level managers who get to temporarily enjoy the worldly benefits and pleasures gained by selling their souls.
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