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    Johannes Vermeer The Concert 1663 Stolen from Gardner Museum March 18 1990, the single largest art theft in the world. Never recovered   • Where
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 13 2021]

    #73032
    Germ
    Participant

    Big Pharma uses Big Tobacco’s strategy to defeat Ivermectin

    ” …the craftiest ruse was for the Tobacco Industry to pretend to embrace the research and set up their own studies. Because by controlling the study design, they could control the outcome.

    The same strategy is now used against the public in this pandemic.
    Their first victim was Hydroxychloroquine …”

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/big-pharma-uses-big-tobaccos-strategy-to-defeat-ivermectin/article_fc17022e-9ba6-11eb-8c7b-633764c1bf9e.html

    #73033
    Germ
    Participant

    No voter id in the UK either!

    #73034
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Johannes Vermeer The Concert 1663 Stolen from Gardner Museum March 18 1990, the single largest art theft in the world. Never recovered…

    The Vermeer, is of course, a splendid work of art; but some selfish, greedy piece of shit, had to have it.
    Never recovered speaks to money, and more; someone so powerful no one dares to speak…
    Money talks, shit walks…and walks…and walks…and walks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    …and the world is robbed of it’s own beauty…

    The rest is devolving into chaos, barbarism, and a form of insanity…

    You’ll have to forgive my bad attitude, but it’s been in the works for the last 50 of my 76 years and I’ll own my attitude…
    I just hope y’all got as firm a grip as possible on what’s coming…

    #73035
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    From the April 9 Debt Rattle, the B117 strain is said to be 67% more deadly.

    • B.1.1.7. Now Dominant Strain In US
    “Studies found the virus is 60 times more contagious than the current strain and 67 percent more deadly, according to the New York Times.”

    [The study data actually showed that “more deadly” meant the survival rate went from 99.7% to 99.6%, as I commented at the time.]

    In today’s news, two studies indicate the B117 strain does not increase the risk of death, and doesn’t make you sicker.

    Two new studies suggest that the B.1.1.7 coronavirus variant, which was first identified in the United Kingdom, is more transmissible, but the variant does not appear to impact disease severity.

    The findings clash with separate research that previously suggested the variant may be tied to a higher risk of dying from Covid-19.

    One of the studies, published on Monday in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, found no evidence in a sample of hospitalized patients that the B.1.1.7 variant is associated with severe Covid-19. However, the variant was associated with increased viral load, which supports the growing evidence that it is more easily transmitted.

    The other study, also published Monday in The Lancet Public Health, found no statistically significant association between the B.1.1.7 variant and the types or duration of Covid-19 symptoms people said that they experienced.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/12/health/b117-variant-covid-19-lancet-studies/index.html

    #73036

    I saw the B.1.1.7. “correction”, Doc, but I just let it go. No confidence in any of these numbers. 60 times more contagious sounds like a baloney sandwich, and 67 percent more deadly sounds like a hot air sandwich baked in 5 seconds flat, literally. I know that Prizer’s Yeadon said there’s no way the virus will escape the vaccines, but I have yet to be convinced of that. If and when a large number of people have been injected, but a large enough number have not, it would appear that’s exactly where the virus will tend to go.

    #73037
    John Day
    Participant

    Much of this information may be redundant to the commentariat and readership here, but there is a nice picture.
    http://www.johndayblog.com/2021/04/spring-preparations.html

    #73038
    John Day
    Participant

    Jenny and I are working the spring gardens and replacing fruit trees killed by the deep freeze around Valentine’s Day. I’ve put in 6 fruit trees over the past two weekends in Yoakum and Austin, and the Mexican avocado bed repopulation is still not finished. My Brother, Tom, whose birthday it is today ordered me a tree that is somewhat hard to find, and I’m waiting on a few others, also. Two of the seedlings from a Mysterious California avocado tree, coming through Jenny’s cousin, Freddy, in Victoria, have life growing up from the bases. Since they are seedlings, not grafted, that reflects their inherent nature, whatever it may be, so they remain in place, and are being cherished. Jenny is pictured in Yoakum this past Sunday morning, before we started some tree work.
    I’m concerned for this “great reset”. We need to make our own provisions to weather this long storm into the world that has less energy and less stuff. Our owners only know to cull the herd. Maybe the secret to that lies in these universal vaccines. That’s way above my pay grade, but entirely possible, and that meme is alive.

    “China and Russia Launch a Global Resistance Economy”, Alastair Crooke
    The $US used to be redeemable for gold, until Nixon effectively ran out in 1971. Even then, dollars were printed far in excess of gold holdings, while they were accepted as equal to god by countries which needed to do international business. The borrowed printed dollars were also paid back at interest, so there was always value extracted from the user, even if the user was not a borrower-at-interest. (Borrowers at variable interest would get the Asian Financial Crisis imposed on them, suffering massive extraction of value periodically.)
    What is proposed here is a global no-extraction monetary-mechanism, which will certainly appeal to countries currently being extracted by the $US.
    This will make the $US suddenly much less valuable to the rest of the world. The rest of the world will buy whatever we still make. We in the US will hardly be able to buy anything as dollar prices of domestic goods shoot up and foreign goods just can’t be bought.
    America cannot beat this. America will have to join this. Financial-capitalists would rather anything than the loss of their daily rents from global and domestic “investments”. They will say we will all lose our retirements. I presume that’s inevitable, anyway.
    ​ ​So here is the essence to ‘a clever combatant moving to impose his will’ – there is no need for China or Russia or Iran to go to war to do this; they just implement ‘it’. They can do ‘it’ – quite simply. They don’t need a revolution to do it, because they have no vested interest in fighting America.
    ​ ​What is ‘it’? It is not just a trade and investment pact with Tehran; neither is it simply allies helping each other. The ‘resistance’ lies precisely with the way they’re trying to help each other. It is a mode of economic development. It represents the notion that any rent-yielding resource – banking, land, natural resources and natural infrastructure monopolies – should be in the public domain to provide basic needs to everybody – freely.
    ​ ​The alternative way simply is to privatise these ‘public goods’ (as in the West), where they are provided at a financialized maximum cost – including interest rates, dividends, management fees, and corporate manipulations for financial gain.
    ​ ​‘It’ is then a truly different economic approach. To give one example: New York’s Second Avenue Subway extension cost $6 billion, or $2 billion per mile – the most expensive urban mass transit ever built. The average cost of underground subway lines outside the U.S. is $350 million a mile, or a sixth of New York’s cost.
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/04/05/china-russia-launch-global-resistance-economy/

    ​This poorly organized presentation states that China continues to advance its Central Bank Digital Currency. That’s setting a certain pace.
    China is also beta-testing it’s Sovereign Digital Currency, which is to say Chinese smartphone-money that is lossless-for-the-users.
    This smartphone exchange can also be used phone-to-phone, imitating cash, in areas without cellphone service.
    It is not blockchain. It has conventional security features.
    China is taking steps to eliminate non-governmental digital currencies (That’s what is happening to Jack Ma).
    China also wants it’s digital currency to really work smoothly and well for Chinese commerce, and to be borderless, as $100 bills are effectively borderless, and anonymous, except when the Bank of China needs to trace a chain of transactions. ​
    This borderless feature will make the Chinese Sovereign Digital Currency on smartphones directly challenge the role of $100 bills in global commerce.
    It looks like it has a lot to offer, but once you meet the new boss, will he become the same as the old boss? It’s a good gamble, isn’t it?
    http://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/chinas-digital-yuan-comes-expiration-date

    ​This is simply the fact in $US amounts. Lots of eggs in that basket.
    Investors have put more money into stocks in the last 5 months than the previous 12 years combined
    http://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/09/investors-have-put-more-money-into-stocks-in-the-last-5-months-than-the-previous-12-years-combined.html

    “NATO is ready to fight to the last Ukie”. Russia has to protect many Russians in East Ukraine, and also avoid directly invading Ukraine.
    The deep state/NATO combo’s using Kiev to start a war to bury Nord Stream 2 and German-Russian relations… Pepe Escobar
    On March 24, Ukrainian President Zelensky, for all practical purposes, signed a declaration of war against Russia, via decree No. 117/2021.
    The decree establishes that retaking Crimea from Russia is now Kiev’s official policy. That’s exactly what prompted an array of Ukrainian battle tanks to be shipped east on flatbed rail cars, following the saturation of the Ukrainian army by the US with military equipment including unmanned aerial vehicles, electronic warfare systems, anti-tank systems and man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS).
    http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-ukraine-redux-war-russophobia-pipelineistan

    MOSCOW, April 11. /TASS/. German Chancellor Angela Merkel in her phone talk with Russian President Vladimir Putin did not demand Russia scale down its military presence near the Ukrainian border but voiced concerns about this, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in an interview with Moscow. Kremlin. Putin on Rossiya-1 TV channel.
    ​ ​”No,” Peskov said answering a question if Merkel had called on Moscow to scale down its military presence near eastern Ukraine. “Merkel indeed said that Europe is concerned over the concentration of Russian forces near the borders. Yes, she said this and this concern was voiced,” Peskov said. The Russian leader gave explanation to this, he stressed.
    ​ ​Moscow sees that the Minsk peace deal is not being implemented in Donbass and Ukraine is stepping up its provocations, Kremlin Spokesman told. “In Donbass there is a situation when the Minsk agreements are not being fulfilled,” Peskov stressed. “And there is a situation in Donbass related to the increased activity of provocations by the Ukrainian armed forces.”​ …
    “Since in general there are tensions and there is no de-escalation, tensions are running high and such provocations could one day ignite the fire of this civil war inside the Ukrainian conflict,” Peskov stressed.
    tass.com/politics/1276543

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russia has called for talks to create a legally binding international instrument that would ban the deployment of any type of weapons in space, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on the 60th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin’s historic space flight.
    ​ ​”We consistently believe that only a guaranteed prevention of an arms race in space will make it possible to use it for creative purposes, for the benefit of the entire mankind. We call for negotiations on the development of an international legally binding instrument that would prohibit the deployment of any types of weapons there, as well as the use of force or the threat of force,” Lavrov said in a video message on the anniversary of the first manned space flight.
    sputniknews.com/russia/202104111082600146-russia-calls-for-talks-on-binding-treaty-to-prohibit-weapons-in-space—lavrov/

    #73040
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    All these people trying to guilt-trip others into getting the vaccine – even Craig Murray is up to it! – should maybe take a look at the list of people who died after being vaccinated. Warning, it’s quite upsetting because a lot of them were really young.

    #73041
    Dimitri
    Participant

    “ I saw the B.1.1.7. “correction”, Doc, but I just let it go. No confidence in any of these numbers. 60 times more contagious sounds like a baloney sandwich, and 67 percent more deadly sounds like a hot air sandwich baked in 5 seconds flat, literally. ”

    Did you have confidence in these numbers in the past? Do you take responsibility for the fear mongering campaign that your readers were subjected for most of the past year with all these numbers displayed at the top of the page?

    #73042
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ V. Arnold

    “You’ll have to forgive my bad attitude, but it’s been in the works for the last 50 of my 76 years and I’ll own my attitude… I just hope y’all got as firm a grip as possible on what’s coming…”

    I remember being young, thinking we had time, we’d work out the worst parts of it. In some ways, life looked brighter from that perspective. But this late-stage cliff-edge perspective has its beauty too. There are living today young people who will survive, some even thrive, both materially, emotionally, and spiritually. Luck and wise preparation wil be part of this, but for many, the main factor will be a powerful spiritual compass that seems to work best when choices are starkly defined.

    #73043
    WES
    Participant

    I see ZH has finally noticed the impact the coca-cola boycott is having!
    Pepsi is winning by doing nothing!

    It will be interesting to see TV’s attendance figures for MLB.
    NFL TV ratings have been down for the last 3 years.
    Not sure how NBL is doing.

    #73044
    WES
    Participant

    Madamski:

    I don’t suppose instilling parental values in off-spring has anything to do with success?

    Not politically correct these days.

    #73045
    zerosum
    Participant

    I’m proactive
    My Dr’s Ivermectin prescription is on back order at the pharmacy.
    https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/One-Page-Summary-of-the-Clinical-Trials-Evidence-for-Ivermectin-in-COVID-19.pdf
    ——–
    Today’s news does not change the facts.
    India is the biggest test tube.
    • India Opens Door To Sputnik V For More Than One Billion People (RT)

    Facts
    There exist a virus that culls the sick, old, and those that have a weak immune system and a bad lifestyle.
    There is a response to that virus that caused changes to our social/economic systems.
    The culling of those individuals will leave the remaining population with a more robust immune system.
    The culling of those individuals will leave the social/economic systems healthier/robust.
    1. elimination of redundant carriers
    2. fewer individuals to share/divide the resources/pies
    3. the virus is essential and changing how living bios interacts
    ——

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56724039

    Iran and Israel’s shadow war takes a dangerous turn
    By Frank Gardner

    Iran has blamed Israel for a mysterious explosion at the weekend that knocked out power at its uranium enrichment facility at Natanz.
    This “shadow war” can be broadly divided into three distinct fronts.
    MORE >>>>
    ———-
    False headline

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589
    Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions
    By Laurence Peter
    MORE >>>>
    NATO is trying to provoke a Ukraine-Russia conflict
    Ukraine wants more from Biden
    —-

    #73046
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ WES

    “I don’t suppose instilling parental values in off-spring has anything to do with success? Not politically correct these days.”

    You just threwq a bucket of character assassination acrtoss a vast swath of young people raising kids, WES. People do the best with the circujkstances they’re in. Oldies like us created the political reality in which these kids struggle to find meaning and purpose. COnservative, liberal, whatever: we all dilly-dally whip-sawed the nation into the wreck that it is.

    I hardly blame the younguns for the political environment they inherited. AFter all, we’re the longest-standing grownups in the room, we geriatrics.

    #73047
    zerosum
    Participant

    The battle for $$$$ has gone public
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-halts-use-jnj-covid-jab-after-6-cases-deadly-rare-blood-clots-identified

    The United States Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are reviewing data involving six reported U.S. cases out of more than 6.8 million doses administered. Out of an abundance of caution, the CDC and FDA have recommended a pause in the use of our vaccine.

    “This announcement will not have a significant impact on our vaccination plan: Johnson & Johnson vaccine makes up less than 5% of the recorded shots in arms in the United States to date,” Zients said.

    US has enough Pfizer, Moderna vaccines to continue current pace of vaccinations and meet President Biden’s goal of 200 million shots by his 100th day in office.

    White House is working with state and federal partners to get patients who had been scheduled for J&J vaccine rescheduled for Pfizer or Moderna.
    MORE >>>>

    #73048
    zerosum
    Participant

    madamski
    “I hardly blame the younguns for the political environment they inherited. AFter all, we’re the longest-standing grownups in the room, we geriatrics.”

    This Qtip, does not feel confident to be able to pass on any wisdom to the younguns. Too much has change.
    What worked in my yesterday, will not work for younguns tomorrow. (I don’t have Blacksmithing skills/knowledge)

    #73049
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Now now Dimitri. Raul took those numbers down after reader request (i remember pointing out they were on every web page). And he didn’t ban anyone for questioning covid. In my opinion he’s handled this better then any other website that wasn’t outright saying its all BS.

    #73050
    RCarla
    Participant

    Health Experts Are Telling Healthy People Not to Wear Face Masks (Time) — this article is more than one year old. It is now known that the CDC was very late to accept the reality of aerosol spread of Covid-19 and this has cost many thousands of lives. So this article is not only sorely out of date, it is dangerously wrong.

    #73051

    Raul took those numbers down after reader request

    I stopped posting the Worldometer graphs not upon some request, but because I thought they lost their function, and the numbers became mere abstractions. Could have done it a week or month earlier or later, peu importe, I do think they were useful for a while to make people understand what was going on. Nothing to do with fear, just numbers. I know because they didn’t scare me.

    #73052

    zero,

    The culling of those individuals will leave the remaining population with a more robust immune system.

    Little caveat: they will have to rebuild those immune systems first, the lack of contact will have severely weakened them. Most for the younger people perhaps, but o the other hand, their immune systems, while less developed, are more robust to begin with. These systems deteriorate with age.

    #73053
    Mr. House
    Participant

    If you don’t think the way the media handled covid wasn’t a pure fear and misinformation scam, not to mention censorship of anyone who disagreed then i’ve lost all hope. Just ventured over to NC and they have an article on vaccine passports up. The comments……. why do they even pay “attention”? What in the past 20 years makes anyone think more power to those who rule over us won’t be abused. Humanity is hopeless

    #73054
    Mr. House
    Participant

    It’s been over a year and i do not know a single person who has died from covid. I know two 90+ grandma’s that survived without barely knowing they had it. Yes yes stats stats stats, but i’m going to trust my own personal exp.

    We live too much online and believe that it is now reality, it isnt. I do see more and more homeless, but you’d think they’d be dying on the streets from covid the way the media talks about it. Doesn’t seem to be the case. I still stand by my original thesis, they needed a reason to print, the rest of the world went along with it because they don’t have any alternative to the american financial system yet.

    #73055
    Mr. House
    Participant

    If you go to the CDC’s website and take the percent of people they say died of only covid, you get like 30,000 of the total they report everyday. Why do they not point this out in the “news”?

    #73056
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    From gathering information here for quite awhile, with thanks to Ilargi for the time and effort it takes to compile, my own anecdotal experience with the COVID vaccine issue might be useful.

    As I myself have not received the vaccine nor do I intend to at this point, my household members (heavy MSM watchers) have received the Pfizer vaccines. My mother received both doses and came down with symptoms approximately five days after the second dose (fever, fatigue, some chills, cough, and runny nose). Approximately the third day after her symptoms appears (while her symptoms receded), I came down with symptoms (loss of smell, cough, runny nose, fatigue, Everything but the fever.) that took me out for a couple of days of bed rest. Being 53 with multiple co-morbidities (Type I diabetic, hypercholesterolemia, couple of areas in the prostate under suspicion for cancer, mild COPD, VIT D deficiency that has me taking 2000 IU/day) conceptually places me in a high risk group. My suspicion is that COVID was transmitted through the vaccine from my mother to myself. I have to say, if this is COVID (at least for me), it sure seems like something that can be knocked out easily. If this is the apocalyptic plague our “betters” are hysterical about, they should crawl back into their holes.

    My brother received his first dose last week, with follow up the beginning of May, so I’ll be on the lookout for symptoms again, but my guess is I have acquired natural immunity. The better kind.

    #73057
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Why report on anything when those who commit the bad actions are never held accountable? We may all be better of not paying attention, we’d get the same results.

    #73058
    Bill7
    Participant

    Michael Yeadon content; not to be missed, IMO:

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/pure-unalloyed-evil/

    #73059
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Following the news is like one endless corporate meeting, we talk and talk and talk and nothing ever changes.

    #73060
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    After all that, I’m likely outside of the one sub-group with the highest mortality rate from COVID, as I’m not obese.

    #73062
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Dimitri

    “Do you take responsibility for the fear mongering campaign that your readers were subjected for most of the past year with all these numbers displayed at the top of the page?”

    Oh Raul: how could you? 😉 Calling Raul a fearmonger is rich. An alarmist, yes. But to raise the alarm is not to promote fear. He used the sources he knew, changed when their validity was shown to be questionable… and now you have another fine soul painted black for your pleasure to add to your collection.

    ^&*

    Lawmakers Are Worried COVID-19 Did Long-Term Damage to Military Training

    Well, what they did in response to covid surely did.

    #73063
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Mr. House

    The news is there to be talked about? (And sell ads, of course.) Keeps us busy.

    #73064
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Keeps us busy in inaction, yes.

    #73065
    Bill7
    Participant

    > Did you have confidence in these numbers in the past? Do you take responsibility for the fear mongering campaign that your readers were subjected for most of the past year with all these numbers displayed at the top of the page? <

    Corrections to false Establisment claims are unimportant: “I let it go..”

    Pumping the fear-porn is what’s important; then, afterwards, crying crocodile-tears once the Establishment narrative is firmly in place..

    #73066
    Caith
    Participant

    I’m in the UK. You turn up at the polling station; you tell them your name and address; they cross you off the list; you vote. No ID expected.

    #73067
    Bill7
    Participant

    > Calling Raul a fearmonger is rich. An alarmist, yes. But to raise the alarm is not to promote fear. He used the sources he knew, changed when their validity was shown to be questionable… <

    Yeah, bullshit: there was *plenty of evidence, for a very long time* that the fear-porn Narrative was a false one; that evidence was ignored in favor of the “we’re all gonna
    die!” trope..

    Haven’t seen your colleague here lately, BTW.. 😉

    #73068
    Bill7
    Participant

    So.. where, exactly, is the Excess Mortality, from Da super-scarey Covid?

    nowhere

    #73069
    RCarla
    Participant

    Just replying in an attempt to STOP follow-up replies from coming to my email. I thought I was signing up for replies to MY comment — of which there have been none. Yet my email has been spammed with dozens of comments. Cannot find any “account” information tab on this page, so I sure hope this works to UNSUBSCRIBE me from follow-up reply notifications!

    #73070

    Health Experts Are Telling Healthy People Not to Wear Face Masks (Time) — this article is more than one year old. It is now known that the CDC was very late to accept the reality of aerosol spread of Covid-19 and this has cost many thousands of lives. So this article is not only sorely out of date, it is dangerously wrong.

    I posted it to show the differences in “news” over a year. But still, what has cost most lives is the repression, as in zero research, of anything that could boost immune systems, re: vit D, and any other substances, re: repurposed drugs, ivermectin, HCQ, because they knew the “vaccines” were coming, and they couldn’t give those EUA status if other things might work. That cost many more lives than facemasks or not. Let’s keep our eye on the ball here.

    #73071
    Bill7
    Participant

    It is truly remarkable to me that you can get the great majority of the Polity to believe
    something for which there is *no substantive evidence* (speaking of Da Covid™ fear-porn)..

    Persistent and pervasive propaganda works.

    #73072
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    From Craig Murray

    “ The idea of people without Covid-19 antibodies being treated as second class citizens should be anathema to anybody with concern for human liberty. ”

    It’s worse than that. The bar IS NOT whether a person HAS antibodies/immunity against Covid, it is whether or not the person has been vaccinated. It seems so many people have completely *forgotten* that vaccines are not the only way to develop antibodies/immunity.

    I got sick, cleared the damn virus, have PCR proof of both states, AND get treated like a second class citizen.

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