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    Pablo Picasso Sleeping girl 1935   • ‘Liberation Day’: Trump To Announce Tariff Plans In Rose Garden (Whedon) • Sen. John Kennedy Destroys Nation
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 2 2025]

    #185345
    Dr D Rich
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    Meanwhile,

    ……in other news Jeff Sachs The Professor has been arrested on the campus of Columbia University by undercover ICE agents in a predawn raid for violating Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s Rules of the Road. Agents seized Jeff The Prof’s Green Cards, USA iDMe card, driver’s license, Passport and U.S. Citizenship card. Bitcoin and Monero were also seized.

    Sachs was “spirited” off by agents to To The Naval Brig Charleston South Carolina out of reach of Jeffrey’s attorneys based on a precedent set back in the day for Citizen Jose Padilla.

    Pundits and Pols pondered the possibility and probability the purpose penultimately was to preposition the person prof Jeff for pretrial preparation in Guantanamo Bay Cuba as proposed by POTUS President Trump.

    Professor Jeffrey Sachs could not be reached for comment according to the AP.

    #185346
    Germ
    Participant

    Good morning:-))

    A Series of Glomerular Diseases That Developed After COVID-19 Vaccination

    https://assets.cureus.com/uploads/original_article/pdf/335753/20250324-76497-io17ax.pdf

    TVASSF – what a pisser!

    #185347
    oxymoron
    Participant

    10 on the lungs. No problems but I am 53, not 73.

    Larry fink wants you to stay away from gold.

    #185348
    tboc
    Participant

    A convicted Salvadoran murderer refused to murder a child for profit yet every president, every Joint Chiefs of Staff, the majority of senators and representative have been willing to have children murdered for money, territory and to extort humanity my whole life.

    Going along to get along and taking the skim, that’s just how we roll.

    naive fools who came to Babylon
    And found out that the pie don’t taste so sweet
    but thank you for teachin’ me brand new ways to be cruel (apologies to Yoakam)

    back to the regularly scheduled programming

    #185350
    Dr. D
    Participant

    sin

    I realize from yesterday, the Progressives were talking about Ukraine OBVIOUSLY did Sieg Heil that J6 was a terrifying day that will live in infamy (in which everybody on earth died). I said what? It was a coup. Then why did he stop? They told him to. They? Who’s They? Mumble Mumble…The powerful people (clearly having never thought of this before). I let it drop. But it Made me realize something: IF you think J6 is a legitimate coup attempt, with terrifying actions THEN there is only one conclusion: Joe Biden is a traitor. Why? Because IF you have any Coup of essentially ANY type, THEN there will be some Generals, some staff, a few media people, some Colonels…Right?

    And then Joe Biden would then go TRACK all these guys, root them out and prosecute them….right?

    And then NO ONE, not even ONE person, not even one case, not a single suspicion occurred? Only JimmyBob from Topeka? Yeaaaaaassssss…so what does that mean? That means their “Coup” is “Donald Trump said stuff” …that no one in all America acted on, in any way. Right? There is literally no alternative:

    IF J6 is Real, THEN Joe Biden is a Traitor. He’s a Trumpie Puppet. Q.E.D.

    April 2, Liberation Day. “By the the Power of Nothing Ever Happens! Now Shall Nothing Ever Happen Again Today!” I think this is a good, clean, statesmanlike presentation, overblown perhaps, but nothing’s going to happen, so shouldn’t say so. DO the work, WE the citizen, Consumer will decide if WE name it a national holiday.

    Way too much to cover anywhere, Cullom points out tariffs ARE a tax, but can be a wash in terms of damage, while being far more productive to the workers. Right. Again, there are dozens, flocks of $1T battleships synchronize swimming out there, able to run into each other, not only for fact, but merely for timing.

    MS-13, See? It’s just all about Racism and Oppression! Just let them run drugs and kidnap children, and everything’s fine!

    Protests: They’re calling 20 years for the arson. Again, that’s probably too much, but about the guy who keyed the car and says “Don’t arrest me! I’ll lose everything!” …So you want to just commit crimes and when you’re caught, nothing happens? What do YOU think I should do with you? Losing everything does sound severe, but nothing would be very, very severe. Both cases: maybe that’s something your Lawyer will plead in court?

    Leads to Luigi, now a national hero (to the deranged Left). They want to try the death penalty? Same as these other cases: I understand but that’s a mistake. I know you, we, need examples to stop the flood of careless felons, but that case will then be harder to make, with a harder standard, and cause more backlash.

    …Also, like Lahina, vanish from the news! So Luigi was a rich guy from a rich family, that ran Sackler-level scams on health care? Explain? Both how he was shooting and why he’s a hero then? (Nursing homes) So he’s mad at the Health Care Scam Competition?

    ”The American workers have been living in a trade war for over 40 years, and they’ve seen their jobs be decimated”

    Yeah, but that will killing all of YOU, why would we, the PMC Government-Managerial class care?

    Btw, they’re talking about “Elite Overproduction”? Aaaaaand then pointing out 99% of those jobs are done by women right now, as they aren’t plumbers, but HR DEI Directors. Aaaaaaand can 99% be done by AI. Bye. This may be why they’re shrill and out murdering everybody they can lay hands on, and honestly, man and woman alike. Women may oppress men, but pretty sure they oppress the f– out of women MORE.

    “Stock markets have reeled in the wake of some of Trump’s tariffs thus far,”

    Just to say it, none of these market explanations are usually real. And insiders use dicking with the markets to send messages, “Narratives” to Congress, the idiot media, etc. Look at a long chart, etc, look at DID it change? One day’s action is nothing. And if it was severely UNDER valued, nothing would happen.

    ““How can a federal judge issue an order that affects everyone else outside of that courtroom?”

    So in 90 days, 30% of ALLLLLL such orders in 250 years have been issued. Explain? Here’s a short back: a Judge is supposed to issue and rule in THIS case. One. He might, in strange circumstances, rule on his whole Circuit. These are ruling on the entire nation, every time. And although there are 677 Judges, you only need one, and they have maybe 20? 50? OBVIOUSLY that is nuts, because then OBVIOUSLY we are ruled instead by an unelected, appointed Judiciary. And WHO appointed them king? Possibly in theory a President long dead. But his vote and rule lives on.

    “Nobody voted for them” as today’s pop lingo goes.

    To demonstrate how loony, I think they should do the same: I put of 6 court cases and move one to MY Judge. Now MY Judge ALSO rules against your Judge, that the President has to do the OPPOSITE. Then we have 5 more Judges rule in OTHER directions. That’s all fair and good, right?

    THAT is the right way to let the American People live it out before you nuke one of these posers. Okay, so what they are doing is wrong, genius. How do you stop it? Senator Kennedy outlines how. That is a hard change to our present process that may have other consequences. Oh well.

    “• Judges Block Trump Orders Targeting Firms Tied To Russia Collusion Hoax (JTN)

    677 Presidents! Presidents all the way down!

    “• Warning Against Judges Intruding On Presidential Powers And Actions (JTN)
    Judicial warfare is eroding the confidence in Americans’ justice system, leaving a blight on justice itself,

    Something “we” had remaining confidence in. We need to doubt all of them. Why? Many of you live elsewhere, but this is the American Way. The American System. It’s like Original Sin theory. We have Separation of Powers because Power Corrupts. Therefore we REMOVE all power. All power is removed. Back to the People (10A). Because ANY power is going to lead to an attempt to use it corruptly. So power goes DOWN as far as possible, and is LIMITED as much as possible, and is given oversights, but far more specifically, OFFSETS, Competition, as much as possible.

    COMPETITION.

    But how can you do this, what we did for 250 years? To a nation now suckled on Soviet Socialism, where if your egg falls on the kitchen floor, you call daddy government for a new one? It has to come from US. WE have to understand and lay constant pressure to do this, so WE have to understand why, and everyone in that Town Council meeting ALSO knows why.

    Nor-man
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech_(painting)#/media/File:%22Freedom_of_Speech%22_-_NARA_-_513536.jpg

    Right now, as we know, they are being hauled out for STOPPING YOUR DAUGHTER’S RAPIST, and for being Catholic. So this long, painful adventure is fixing all that. But it can only come from US. WE are the government.

    “Ukraine has a secret last-ditch “scorched earth” plan to render its entire territory uninhabitable in the event of a Russian victory”

    Aaaaaand you were unclear when you gave half a TRILLION and 4-5 nations’ worth of weapons to Nazis? Not Metaphorical Nazis, not Neo-Nazis, actual, original, flag-carrying, nazi handshake, nazi portraits, nazi national holiday nazis. Did anyone know Nazis act like Nazis? I mean, who knewd?

    Okay, post this again, painful and long at 2 HOURS.

    But this is going to be the seminal work on this, NY Times article admitting only a FRACTION of the crimes, and only while “Mistakes Were Made” cover is laid. But having Taibbi, etc run through it—and they are in a HURRY, trying desperately to say only 1/10th of the crimes and frauds revealed, which are in only ONE article about ONE part of ONE aspect of the war.

    But again: CIA was INVADING RUSSIA, over 1994 Russian territory lines, calling EVERY. SINGLE. Target. They said this was a 10% and at one point 50% chance of Worldwide Nuclear war...and did it anyway. And then next breath DENIED it all through Biden.

    And DENIED every act that was happening, WHILE it was happening, while here, admitting every crime was happening. Meh, shrug. Did I doooooooo dat? Were dat wrongie? Oooooooopsie!!!

    NY Times here admitting EVERY. SINGLE. WORD. They’ve printed since 2022, 2014 was EVERY WORD A LIE, here ya go. Yup! Credibility! We gots it! We print this, all’s forgiven! All good now, old chum!

    That’s AFTER every one of us, I’m sure, was punched in the nuts EVERY. DAY. For telling the Truth on about, and around this.

    But let’s not worry about who did what to whom, that’s all in the past now! Don’t be a Hater!

    “Arestovych, then the advisor of Zelensky, argued in 2019 that Russia would have to invade Ukraine (with 99.9% certainty) to prevent NATO expansion, and this would be an opportunity to collectively defeat Russia: “Our price for joining NATO is a big war with Russia”

    Uhhh, wtf would you join NATO? Have you SEEN our allies in the last 100 years? And yes 2019, AGAIN, like the NY Times. Brzezinski wrote this in 1979. That’s WHY we were in their country in 2019, 2014, 1994…. 1604…

    “the church believes that it has a duty to help people of every faith who are in need. Thus, the church does not proselytize in offering such aid and services. A state labor commission ruled that the charity’s lack of such religious expression and prayer makes it secular, even if it has religious motivations.”

    So it’s religious but secular. BothNeithAi. And if you are religious we DEFINITELY punish that. But if you’re NOT religious, Also Punished! It’s magic!

    ““Isn’t it a fundamental premise of our First Amendment that the state shouldn’t be picking and choosing between religions, between certain evangelical sects, and Judaism and Catholicism on the other, for example?”

    Obviously not, because there is ONE religion of Wokeness and Obama is his prophet. All others Submit or Die.

    Important but not worried since I believe they have blackmail on like 2/3rds of them and they’ll magically resign as many seats as necessary to keep The Narrative.™ The Narrative is WWE, it’s to cause ENGAGEMENT. WE the People have to live through and FEEL, experience it. We won’t if there’s nothing at stake, if Mattress Guy fixes it all for us. Ugh.

    “he was never going to be a member of NATO. He understands that. So if he’s looking to renegotiate the deal, he’s got big problems,” Trump said.”

    Speaking of Narratives™. He has to create a Narrative where we can’t work with this guy or perhaps anyone in Europe. They’re all lunatic lying war mongers. Going pretty well, thanks to France, Romania, Holland, Italy, UK….

    #185351
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Elon Musk: “I believe someone is going to be arrested tomorrow, because there’s someone who actually stole 400,000 Social Security numbers”

    Yawn. Show me.

    “..the president has already secured more than $3 trillion in private investments so far.”

    Maybe. The money hasn’t moved, no ground broken on new factories. They can foot-drag, but that seems a bad bet w Trump or Vance in next. Just saying “Promises, Promises.”

    ““Le Pen’s party got the most votes, and the anti-establishment left won the most seats – neither of which entitles you to actually govern France anymore, apparently..”
    • France’s Courts Keep Sidelining The Establishment’s Political Rivals

    Oh the COURTS now rule us! You know, we’ve been asking for years since elections never change anything who’s actually been ruling us, but now we know! It’s just those sooper well-meaning Judges! So we’re a Theocracy, like the Book of Judges? And we tell Saul we want a King?

    “Then – bam! – a New York hotel maid accused him of sexual assault. Career over. And just to make sure, French authorities later charged him with pimping.”

    Yes, and the NYC case had like NOTHING. That was the weakest accusation in the history of accusations, yet, Lo! A Miracle Happened! 10 seconds later, everyone believed it, and the NYT wrote up more slander in 5 days than the previous 5 years! As a “normal” person I was like waiting for something, anything to happen. A single shred of implication, evidence, process, anything, to even BEGIN to guide me if he was guilty or not. NOPE! GSR: Gossip, Rumor, Innuendo. He can’t sit at the Mean Girlz Table anymore, Brittany. And everyone is like “Well, if there’s a RUMOR about him, then OBVIOUSLY, it’s not like people have ever falsely accused for political reasons in the history of the universe before now, you know.”

    Still waiting for that first shred of evidence. You know what that means? It means WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE. Neither requested nor required. There is none, no rule of law whatsoever. Nor any other rules, either, it seems, no social rules, and norms. I SAY something. Then everybody FEEEEEELZ it, has a fit of the FEEELZ, and then Poof! Logic-B-Gone.
    spray
    https://1001movienights.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/vapors.jpg

    “Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has condemned the conviction of French presidential hopeful Marine Le Pen,”

    You’re Next. I’m Next.
    3BodyProblem
    https://pm1.aminoapps.com/6855/7225e1e0865cf1c9fc6fefcadf6918dfa5e8e5f6v2_hq.jpg

    You have #Logos, or nothing. Madness.

    You know, you can stop anytime you want to. Re-Pent. That is, you find out you’re off the Path, the Way, the Tao, then you get back on it. Simple! Works! No? Not yet? Too soon? Millions more need to die first? Oh you stiff-necked generation.

    “• Trump National Security Team Used Gmail For Government Matters – WaPo

    This is the best they’ve got? Yeah I don’t approve, but rly? And for Yemen, we’re all on the case here, and the dialogue, and then, what? Forget that Biden bombed them like 6,000 times? It only matters when one guy’s doing it? The reckless dialogue? Yeah the NYT article said that went on for YEARS, every day, and 50-50 nearly caused a NUCLEAR WAR. But! Not mad about that. There’s ppl in the admin who have weird hair n’ stufffffff. Must. Kill. Allies.

    “• Germany To Target ‘Internal EU Enemies’ – Politico (RT)

    Tim Pool covers all conscription all Europe all the time yesterday. Germany sending standing (tripware) troops to Russian border. Not that that isn’t serious, but Ritter has covered this too. 2027, YEARS from now, and Germany can muster like 30 guys and ONE tank. Oooooooh. And? And THAT MEANS THE ONLY POSSIBLE POINT IS TO TRIPWARE THE U.S. INTO FIGHTING FOR THEM. And?

    AND ONLY BY NUKING RUSSIA IN A FIRST-STRIKE.

    This is doctrine. By EVERYTHING they do there? You’re going to send 30 men and not a refueling truck? You’re three years in a war and haven’t conscripted til YESTERDAY??????? Not ONE Shell factory??????? C’mon! I’m not a f-ing G– D—d f’ing Genius here! You could dredge up a retard from the bottom of a swamp who could see through this!

    But nope! Not one NY Times reporter, not one U.S. citizen, not every European diplomat laid end to end. Not all of them combined! Not with a a thousand espressos and a pallet of Red Bull can they figure it out! I can’t take it.

    “Reuters, one of the world’s most trusted news sources, received USAID funding for ‘Large Scale Social Deception’ and ‘Social Engineering Defence.’

    Tired of doing the same thing every day: Rueters was already outed as taking millions a year from the BBC, like 2 years ago. Is there any point at which we know what we know again?

    “Take Internews Network, a USAID-financed NGO that has pushed nearly half a billion dollars ($472.6m) through a secretive network, ‘working with’ 4,291 media outlets. In just one year, they produced 4,799 hours of broadcasts reaching up to 778 million people and ‘trained’ over 9,000 journalists. This isn’t just funding – it’s a systematic infrastructure of consciousness manipulation.”

    Okay, back up: THIS is what Trump is up against. But if his Cabinet has weird hair, I guess we should just pitch in with US AID. Surrender now! All the cool kidz are.

    I think we’ve all seen it’s WAAAAAY worse than that: somehow they have caused a top-grade mass formation psychosis in all our friends and family, who are rabidly chomping to hunt us down and burn us alive if we own a Tesla. AFTER doing that for Covid. AFTER doing that for RussiaRussia. AFTER….

    Back to talking with Liberals “I think they want to track us all down and kill us really.” Uhhhhh…”They have all the guns, all the training, have for years, wouldn’t they just do it?” “Mumble mumble.” Also sitting in an unlocked house having thousands of dollars pass through never allocating one dollar nor one minute of application as if that were real. Anyway, point was, Liberals are hunting down and burning LIBERALS. But Acktshully, it’s the Right who’s after them.

    Elon/Tesla: Yeah, Uh, Elon owns TWELVE PERCENT of Tesla. Your state pension fund owns the rest. So…make it bankrupt, I guess. Spoke in wheel “Damn you Capitalism!!!” I had thousands and thousands of dollars pass through my hand and never bought a share, although I could, everyone encourages me to, I could have 50x my money, and it’s tax free.

    Will this Oppression of the Proletariat never end???

    Why? Oh God? Why??????

    #185353
    Topcat
    Participant

    German ‘space’ agency

    Can’t wait for Germany ‘re-armament’ with 800 million euro slush fund

    German Space Rocket Explodes Seconds After Takeoff in Norway

    Seig Heil!

    #185354
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i love how americans make fun of europeans.

    i.e., their ancestors.

    “grandpa was such a dolt!”

    #185355
    zerosum
    Participant

    • DOGE Finds Massive Social Security Fraud Scheme (ZH)
    https://x.com/america/status/1906888422498722196?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1906888422498722196%7Ctwgr%5Ebaa4ce42648c923fe6fef85f6a2f4c972fab9db8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F04%2Fdebt-rattle-april-2-2025%2F

    one Wisconsin voter asked Musk: “You found a lot of fraud in Social Security. Do you know whether the Attorney General will investigate and prosecute that fraud?”

    Musk responded: “I believe someone is going to be arrested tomorrow, because there’s someone who actually stole 400,000 Social Security numbers and personal information from the Social Security database… And was selling Social Security numbers and all the identification information in order for people to basically steal money from Social Security.” “This is a particular avenue of fraud for illegal immigrants and voter fraud – because the main way identification is established in the US is via Social Security. If you comprise the Social Security system, you can basically get people to get defacto registered to vote – even if they’re not citizens – and get a bunch of benefits and to milk the system – this is pretty insane,” Musk said.

    ————–

    • USAID and the Architecture of Perception (Stylman)

    No domain is untouched – markets, tech, culture, health, and obviously, media – and you’ll find the same design. Intelligence agencies are deeply embedded in each domain because shaping how we perceive reality is more powerful than controlling reality itself Just as fiat currency replaced real value with declared value, we now see the same pattern everywhere: fiat science replaces inquiry with predetermined conclusions, fiat culture replaces organic development with curated influence, fiat history replaces lived experience with manufactured narratives. We live in an era of fiat everything – where reality itself is declared, not discovered. And just as they create artificial scarcity in monetary systems, they manufacture false choices everywhere else – presenting us with artificial binaries that obscure the true complexity of our world.
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    https://x.com/ivan_8848/status/1906842335696011626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1906842335696011626%7Ctwgr%5Ebaa4ce42648c923fe6fef85f6a2f4c972fab9db8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F04%2Fdebt-rattle-april-2-2025%2F

    Prof. Jeffrey Sachs: I’m speaking of Netanyahu.
    He is a mass murderer.
    He is a killer.
    He commits war crimes.
    And he has control over American foreign policy and over American domestic policy now.
    That’s the fact. The U.S. government is run by Israel, by the Israeli government.
    Why and how, it’s a little hard to say, but it is the unbelievable fact that this brazenness, this recklessness, this cruelty, this arrogance from this extremist Israeli government controls American policy vis-a-vis speech in the United States now.
    It’s shocking but true.
    ————

    #185356
    Noirette
    Participant

    Tariffs are an import tax. Widely used, not much discussed. Anyways, implementing them can be clever, useful for the ‘Nation’, if applied with commercial knowledge and political skill, but nowadays in a ‘global’ economy, blanket / big .. huuge / all-over, etc. ‘tariffs’ lead to economic isolation, job loss internally,‘inflation’ aka steeply rising prices for internal buyers. Leading them to pay if coerced, to then cutting pays to other ‘local’ goods…

    The Don trumpeted Hopiness that WW Biz will re-locate to the US. To Build Factories..? …Mines? …Supermarket Chain?…Designer Linen Clothes? New speed trains? Give me a break, never happen. Because, amongst other factors: Uncertainty.

    Hopes cannot be achieved with Tariffs. So a non-starter, which at least Trump advisors must be aware of, why?

    New totalitarian economic isolationism? Pure personal revenge against labelled enemies, internal and external? Preparation for WW 3? All encompassing re-making of the US with White Bozos of the Top Class ruling over the Deplorables and ‘Other’ (not Jews), or total Corp. Take-Over? What?

    Ruses to distract attention and confuse everyone to what is really going on?

    Or is this just a idiotic lashing-out signalling the imminent end of the US ‘Empire,’ turning off the lights in total chaos?

    #185357
    zerosum
    Participant

    Deepseek must be interfering and acting like a Ouija Board to stop/control what I can communicate.

    The Ouija Board, or the talking board, is simply a flat board that contains a specific pattern of numbers and letters that can, in theory, be used to talk to the dead.
    The Ouija board is often tied to the occult.

    #185358
    jb-hb
    Participant

    20 years in prison

    Sadly, yes. These are people who believe abandoning common sense, common decency, and our common civility is a cheat code for #winning.

    These are the same people who will tell you Socialism is the bestast evar system (just not based on historical performance, that is…) and believe the current year and 1800’s belief that they are special. That they have access to reality while others do not. They have access to truth and others do not.

    That honesty, common sense, common decency, and civility are themselves part of the FAKE universe while the have access to the real one.

    This is their opiate – or really two inextricably intertwined opiates.

    The first, of course, being this illusory superiority. The easiest test to detect it is to see if they want power or want to destroy power. Galadriel is tempted and says “I will remain Galadriel and fade into the West” while Saruman adopts the rainbow and wants the ring for himself.

    The second is the high they get from disobeying decency and common sense. It is, in a sense, the same high that ancient kings would get, for whom there was no magna carta, who could simply order a person killed on a whim or anything else. Sneering superiority, going around doing things they should not do, thinking of lesser beings as – in their superstition – not conscious and controlled, trapped, by their sense of rightness, not like us superior beings.

    20 year jail sentences, counter-cancellations, etc, sadly must happen until they LAY DOWN THEIR WEAPONS and rejoin civil society. But to lay down one’s weapons is to give up a powerful addictive opiate along with one’s worldview and internal sense of higher status. (because equity amirite?)

    #185359
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “New totalitarian economic isolationism?”

    Isn’t that what covid was? Are JB-HB and myself the only people here who are still in the work force and everyone else is retired? I can relate to his exp. with regards to training. I attend meetings that have hundreds of women in them and maybe a handful of men. You are told in company orientation, if someone isn’t doing work and you point out that they’re not doing work, they’ll probably be promoted before you so keep your mouth shut. Everything in this world is inverted. You will not be able to vote your way out of this.

    #185360
    jb-hb
    Participant

    i love how americans make fun of europeans.

    i.e., their ancestors.

    “grandpa was such a dolt!”

    We’re making fun of Europeans for thinking their own grandpa was a dolt. Americans aren’t making fun of Charlemagne or GK Chesterton or Shakespeare or Galileo or John Locke.

    #185361
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Just got a flurry of work emails with new required DEI “trainings” yesterday. Too busy working to see to them yet. But the HR Ladies have plenty of time for it, no doubt. While producing nothing except negative production

    I thought peak socialist abuse was being browbeaten with multiple mandatory Ibrahim X Kendri half-day “trainings” back in 2020, Trainings in which he promoted academic marxism for 4 hours straight. At least there were so many people in the training that I could turn off my camera and mute my mic so my reactions wouldn’t be monitored.

    The current employer’s DEI is WORSE if that is imaginable. They’ve become WAY more comfortable in “educating” on the weirder aspects of current year marxism. Stupid abstruse metaphysical garbage telling me I am just an animal using (misusing, abusing) words from psychology.

    Forcing me to say that the most general categories that apply to me are those things which make me unique in a total mindfuckery exercise.

    Telling me I must be an Ally – say and do everything for THEIR purposes – but no, actually, Ally is not enough, you must have a sort of permanent mystical spiritual experience in which you lose all personal boundaries and belong obsequiously effusively to The Movement. This relates to fucking insurance HOW? Also, it sounds a lot like successfully psychologically breaking a torture victim. Like a marxist read 1984, read the part about Winston breaking, and said “Yeah, being an Ally is not enough, we need this.”

    This is all shit that happened just a few MONTHS ago.

    Unlike the previous corporate training, you cannot turn off your camera nor MUTE! So I am in this “training” constantly on camera in a small class where my face starts to hurt and twitch I am concealing my internal reactions to rather insane and extreme demands, insult and evil, for survival, maintaining a pleasant mild expression for an hour or two straight.

    #185362
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    Ha! I get a two-fer today…if only a stupid little observation…


    @jb-hb
    and @Dr D: That ‘meddlesome priest’ was also destroying power. He prevented the welding of church to state, by being a passive-aggressive little s#!+!

    #185363
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @tdk

    Ya oughtta hear my LdS colleagues call out the “French surrender monkeys” and the “Visigoths” as in “Rich, you’re a Visigoth”.
    My reply, “USNA didn’t cover those ppl in History of western civilization. Can’t help ya with that one”

    #185364
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “Americans aren’t making fun of Charlemagne or GK Chesterton or Shakespeare or Galileo or John Locke.”

    not to insult, but most americans (and my less than humble compatriots here) have not a clue as to the above.

    they don’t know who duke ellington was.

    bucky fuller, a mystery. thoreau? didn’t he play for the saints?

    they might know elvis, but the inventor chuck, nah.

    “pork chops and apple sauce? that’s swell.”

    #185373
    jb-hb
    Participant

    One way to think of it was, Thomas Beckett preferred an internationalist organization to a nationalist one.

    Did he resist, passive-aggressively, the power of that internationalist organization or only the nationalist one? Any protests on record against Papal or Bishopric or other use of power by the universal ie internationalist side?

    It’s interesting that Henry II’s outburst seems to be more incredulity that no stochastic terrorism has spontaneously occurred against his opponent as opposed to an order to his underlings. Like when that child was screamingly televised as “The Smiling Face Of Racism” while people on Twitter asked, won’t someone shoot up the religious high school he attends.

    Globalists are internationalists. DEI is socialism. Globalists love DEI. Globalists are Inter-Nationalist Socialists. All the corporations and HR depts they control preach cutting edge socialism.

    Who is fighting power again? Who is throwing the ring into Mt Doom rather than taking it up or saying “That ought to be me”?

    “I thought Fangorn was dangerous.

    ‘Dangerous!’ cried Gandalf. ‘And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord. And Aragorn is dangerous, and Legolas is dangerous. You are beset with dangers, Gimli son of Glóin; for you are dangerous yourself, in your own fashion. Certainly the forest of Fangorn is perilous — not least to those that are too ready with their axes; and Fangorn himself, he is perilous too; yet he is wise and kindly nonetheless.”

    If Gollum forcbly grabs Frodo’s hand and bites off the ring to stop Frodo from exercising power to throw The Ring into Mt Doom, then surely Gollum is “blocking power”

    #185374
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “Americans aren’t making fun of Charlemagne or GK Chesterton or Shakespeare or Galileo or John Locke.”

    not to insult, but most americans (and my less than humble compatriots here) have not a clue as to the above.

    …due to the modification-degradation of American education by adherents to continental European socialism, relativism, postmodernism, deconstructionism, etc.

    The Europeans swallowed that coolaid even MORE and are now paying the price, which Americans are mocking, which you objected to, which is funny.

    #185375
    Mr. House
    Participant

    For everyone here, why would trump crash the system that made him rich? That is what needs to happen for any reform sans violence (and you still may get that even with the crash). Serious question

    #185376
    those darned kids
    Participant

    oh, you may mock whomever. it bears no weight in my mind.

    #185377
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “…due to the modification-degradation of American education by adherents to continental European socialism, relativism, postmodernism, deconstructionism, etc. “

    wowsers, i thought it was the fruit loops..

    #185379
    citizenx
    Participant

    Thanks for the Sachs interview comments…

    That’s the fact. The U.S. government is run by Israel, by the Israeli government.
    It’s shocking but true.

    Ever wonder how many things would not be happening if this were not the case?
    How? Pernicious tentacles.
    Why ? Most are unwilling to get to the root causal truth.

    Clearly Dr D missed both of Sachs quotes…silence of the Lambs ? Bahhh bahhh

    “Ancient” Philosophical Wisdom-

    If you get paid to say something, it was to be taken with a great deal of suspicion…

    Why reality is becoming obsolete-

    Destructive Marxist DEI Leftists Libtards are not Democratic.

    “In a democracy, we’re supposed to be Democratic about knowledge, anybody’s got a right to be a damn fool”

    So they use Democracy to spread Marxist poison.

    Bummer that Trump is compromised by that Not America first Rogue Nation.
    Hypocrisy 101.
    Friends don’t control friends. Allies don’t control Allies.

    #185380
    citizenx
    Participant

    JB-HB

    I am concealing my internal reactions to rather insane and extreme demands, insult and evil, for survival

    You may find this helpful, the title is a bit misleading.
    The Narcissist premise of controlling YOU is extremely relevant.

    Examine the covid cult, leftist cult, dei cult in the light of narcissism and it becomes much clearer along with a strategy of navigation. I found this very helpful dealing with their abusive insanity of controlling others.

    #185381
    John Day
    Participant

    I ran out the clock on the lung timer and was not short of breath.
    I trained to hold my breath 5 minutes under water when I was 15.
    YMMV

    #185382
    John Day
    Participant

    @jb-hb: I feel for ya, on those damned “workplace violence” and such training videos that make you watch and click for an hour.

    #185383
    Dora
    Participant

    Americans aren’t mocking European citizens in whole. Americans mock the European elites constant return to aristocratic ideas about innate superiority and fitness to rule. See Ursula V-L. That European elite inbred idea is worth much mockery. Inbred elites – just what the world needs, not. Americans mock the Davos consensus.

    #185384

    “In a blog post regarding the work, OpenAI researchers describe using its GPT-4o model to “supervise” another of its large language models, disciplining it when it tried to lie. But that did not work, as the model would still lie, “only now its cheating is undetectable by the monitor because it has learned to hide its intent in the chain-of-thought.””
    From Gizmodo’s “OpenAI Says Disciplining Chatbots for Lying Just Makes Them Worse

    chuckle chuckle.

    #185386
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I’m considering setting up a wagering pool on which conspiracy “theory” will next be court-admissibly-proven to have been 100% true all along. Big bucks to be made, so get in on it early.

    #185387
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Take Hitler, for instance. If he spent the last 20 years of his life in Argentina (and every government in the world knew all about it and was thus fully complicit in lie), then those same rulers have also been lying to us about who really caused WW2, with it’s consequent 100 million deaths, and the reduction of numerous countries to rubble. If it was Hitler’s fault then why was he allowed to enjoy his golden years sipping beer in the Andes?

    #185388
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Artificial Intelligence Systems lie for precisely the same reason that humans do. They lie when the truth is an obstacle to the attainment of the true objective that the AI (or human person) is holding as their PRIMARY objective.

    The results are about the same, too, with the exception that the AI system won’t know that it’s in a living Hell, whereas the human certainly will.

    #185389
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Test your lungs
    Normal lungs – 14 seconds
    Strong lungs – 35 seconds
    Super lungs – 70 seconds

    Maybe that is a lowering of expectations about what’s normal for lungs, post vaxx, or with the terrible air quality in India, the location of the hospital that posted this lung test.

    But saying 35 seconds indicates strong lungs, and 14 seconds indicates normal lungs, is lowering the bar somewhat, since “most people can hold their breath for 30 to 90 seconds without any difficulty,” according to the director of education at the American Association for Respiratory Care (AARC).

    “Most people can hold their breath for 30 to 90 seconds without any difficulty,” says registered respiratory therapist Mandy De Vries, MS-RCL/Ed, director of education at the American Association for Respiratory Care (AARC).
    https://www.livestrong.com/article/13773509-how-long-should-you-be-able-to-hold-your-breath/

    #185390
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “If it was Hitler’s fault then why was he allowed to enjoy his golden years sipping beer in the Andes?”

    Because the entire point of Hitler was to get rid of the soviet union. Its why France surrendered so quickly, and he never invaded England. Only 100,000 Americans died on the Western front……….. Only when it was obvious that he wasn’t going to defeat the soviet union, did the west get “serious”.

    #185391

    citizenx- that rick roderick talk was excellent. Thanks for posting it.

    #185392
    Mr. House
    Participant

    This doesn’t strike anyone as strange?

    Flight to Scotland
    After a final check of the weather reports for Germany and the North Sea, Hess took off at 17:45 on 10 May 1941 from the airfield at Augsburg-Haunstetten in his specially prepared aircraft.[85] It was the last of several attempts to depart on his mission; previous efforts had to be called off due to mechanical problems or poor weather.[86] Wearing a leather flying suit bearing the rank of captain, he brought along a supply of money and toiletries, a torch, a camera, maps and charts, and a collection of 28 different medicines, as well as dextrose tablets to help ward off fatigue and an assortment of homoeopathic remedies.[76][87][88]

    Setting a course towards Bonn, Hess used landmarks on the ground to orient himself and make minor course corrections. When he reached the coast near the Frisian Islands, Hess turned and flew in an easterly direction for twenty minutes to stay out of range of British radar. He then took a heading of 335 degrees for the trip across the North Sea, initially at low altitude but travelling for most of the journey at 5,000 feet (1,500 m). At 20:58, he changed his heading to 245 degrees, intending to approach the coast of North East England near the village of Bamburgh, Northumberland. As it was not yet sunset when he first approached the coast, Hess backtracked, zigzagging back and forth for 40 minutes until it grew dark. Around this time, his auxiliary fuel tanks were exhausted so he released them into the sea. Also around this time, at 22:08, the British Chain Home station at Ottercops Moss near Newcastle upon Tyne detected Hess’ presence and informed the Filter Room at Bentley Priory. He was quickly detected by several other stations, and the aircraft was designated as “Raid 42”.[89]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess#Flight_to_Scotland

    #185393
    Dr. D
    Participant

    This turned out to be relevant today: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pt3v5EbG9jQ

    Pool on Leftists, just attacking anyone who talks like flying monkeys. They are like “Blue Square says this is ‘what is done’, this is GOOD, I can attack anyone who is vaguely in this area, I’m killing Hitler.”

    Going to Narcissism? Yes, THEY are special. RULES do not apply to them. And they see nothing but that on TV! All their friends, all texts, even HR training courses tell you you MUST attack and kill everyone. To be Good. And NOT attacking them like a flying monkey, is Bad. And you want to be GOOD, don’t you? Because if you’re not GOOD, not Good ENOUGH, then — I — am the flying monkey and — I — will attack you.

    …Because if — I — don’t then the NEXT guy will be the Flying monkey, and attack ME. …It’s Agent Smiths all the way down.

    Btw…anyone know WHO made this order? WHY we are ya know, flyinginging monkeyinging around?

    –Blank furious stares —

    …Nevermind, forget I asked.

    #185394
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Are you kidding? Americans mock the heck out of Americans of all types. Just when you do that, it’s invisible because it’s “Of course all Americans are mouth breathing morons who should probably be treated like ape-slaves then killed. THat’s jsut Science.” So it’s only when you make fun of anybody ELSE that it stands out.

    And of course we make fun of Europe, but I don’t think you could even track down and FIND an American that doesn’t likewise commiserate with the thoroughly-trampled people of Manchester, or even Marseilles.

    You think they’re making fun of Jacques Renard, produce truck driver in Nice? No. We’re making fun of all Italians, because Draghi is an ass? Nope, never happened. We hate and mock Karl Eberhard, mason in Hambourg? Never happened. So who exactly is it and what precisely are we accused of? That we mock the same feckless, moronic, mass-murdering billionaires and lunatics that we make twice as much fun of here? Wow, so bad of us.

    It’s fun to say, but think first.

    Speaking of Europe, saved this:

    #185395
    Mr. House
    Participant

    US journalist Hubert Renfro Knickerbocker, who had met both Hitler and Hess, speculated that Hitler had sent Hess to deliver a message informing Winston Churchill of the forthcoming invasion of the Soviet Union, and offering a negotiated peace or even an anti-Bolshevik partnership.[100] Soviet leader Joseph Stalin believed that Hess’s flight had been engineered by the British. Stalin persisted in this belief as late as 1944, when he mentioned the matter to Churchill, who insisted that they had no advance knowledge of the flight.[101] While some sources reported that Hess had been on an official mission, Churchill later stated in his book The Grand Alliance that in his view, the mission had not been authorised. “He came to us of his own free will, and, though without authority, had something of the quality of an envoy”, said Churchill, and referred to Hess’s plan as one of “lunatic benevolence”

    Now thing about all the lies we’ve been told the last 20 years………….

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