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    Rembrandt van Rijn Christ and St Mary Magdalene at the Tomb 1638   • Biden Vows To Cut Nearly Half Of Greenhouse Emissions By 2030 (SAC) • GOP Se
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 23 2021]

    #73718
    V. Arnold
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    Lets hear it for Possums…
    Amazing animals’; slandered for decades…even by me…
    …but that was before I knew better…

    #73720
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I’m sure “decoupling” money, finance, debt, all that “abstract” stuff, from real world physicality will work out just fine. Reality is so last century. And who needs all that dirty stuff like oil and lithium and soil when we have iphones and Teslas and TikToc and Cheese Doodles and windmills.

    Here’s something that puzzles me: “U.S. imports from Russia averaged 538,000 barrels a day in 2020—more than the 522,000-barrel-a-day average from Saudi Arabia..” Bloomberg Business Week, March 24, 2021

    So, we are putting sanctions on the country that is our 3rd leading supplier of oil? It seems to me that Russia could rather easily find other buyers for these half a million barrels a day–China, for instance–if push comes to shove. Or is the plan to roll a few tanks over the border, put up a green zone around the Kremlin, and take over the Russian oil fields? Another idea that should work out just fine.

    On the Covid front, it really is astounding how just about every single person I have talked to in my little sphere has virtually zero hesitancy about getting vaccinated. In fact, despite being older than most of them, I now only know one person who has not been vaccinated and doe not plan to be. (It’s not exactly comforting that he has drifted heavily into conspiracy waters, which I avoid.)

    Last night a friend held a reopening for his pub restaurant and it was well-attended, the biggest indoor crowd I’ve seen in a while. He installed an air ventilation system that supposedly zaps “98% of pathogens” from the incoming fresh air before circulating. But he has had this since mid-July, and had to close in December because there were simply not enough people willing to come out. Now that the vaccine is here, everybody is fancy free.

    But I find myself quickly labeled an anti-vaxxer if it comes up that I have not been vaccinated. Since my reasoning for not being vaccinated is I don’t believe the situation warrants in most cases, and it is quickly taking us into totalitarian behavoir under the guise of public health, I thought it was important to express these views to others. But almost everyone is so on board, all it does is make people angry at me. (if people were dropping dead around me a la the plague, I would definitely take my place in the vaccination line). One friend last night asked me if I would let my 11-year-old get vaccinated.

    I have no control over that, unfortunately, because the custody laws in NYS are biased against the father. But I said why would I, since the virus is not affecting kids. He scoffed, and said something like “Not for now anyway.” (Yeah, if it does go after kids, it could well be due to our mass vaccination of people who don’t need it.) Then he asked me if I had been vaccinated for mumps or the measles. As if I had a choice, or as if that were relevant to the discussion. At least there are now many more people on the not very crowded sidewalk joining me in not wearing a mask. Probably because they now feel invincible after receiving their precious “jab.” Now I think I will defer to my right to medical privacy when the question inevitably comes up again.

    I do look to TAE participants to draw some sustenance for my position, especially after reading scare pieces in the MSM, such as yesterday’s article in the NYT throwing out meaningless percentages along with horror stories of grave medical complications and death with “Long Covid.”

    #73721
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Democrats vs Republican focus. Republicans are naming employment, the border, and crime as top items. Democrats are naming U.S. CITIZENS as the #1 problem. That is, their main fear and focus in life is Republicans. Yes, a party that is, to all visible accounts, without power anywhere. And whose base is the most powerless group in the nation: unemployed poor rural folks. OBVIOUSLY they are the top danger to the nation, being powerless, unable to get institutions to follow their suggestions at all, and systematically annihilated 30,000 at a time.

    Pretty weird world we live in. Shows who will “DO WHAT THEY’RE TOLD!” and follow any authority into the jaws of mass murder. “What they’re told” is to believe the State and mass media. We never lie and We’re here to help. Obviously. Just look at any page of any history book, anywhere, ever.

    “Biden Vows to Cut Nearly Half of Greenhouse Emissions by 2030 (SAC)”

    I guess like Obama he plans to kill every black and brown person, everywhere he can find them. Even the ATTEMPT to do this – even with a 90% failure – would shut off heating oil, food, and jobs for the POOREST Americans first, starting ground zero in black communities. Congratulations, this is open genocide. Just as they said would happen with Carbon Credits, as skimmed by Goldman Sachs.

    Luckily, I don’t believe a word of it. It’s all a sham, he couldn’t care less about carbon, and the Yellow Vests show they wouldn’t get even one tax hike before being brought to their knees. But it does show you who they are and what they want. They want you dead. Black people first.

    ‘Cause that’s Green! That’s pure love!

    “Russia to Withdraw Troops from Deployment on Border with Ukraine (RT)”

    They’re not done with stupid. After seeing the West and NATO will provide exactly nothing, Zelinsky reversed and activated the reserves, calling up the troops against Russia.

    But as we learn, most was a lie anyway. …Which we know because any adult in the western world opened their stupid pie-hole and exhaled. A lot of the troops the EU liars had to walk back were the general troops always stationed in Crimea. Others didn’t exist at all. The pics of their tanks, were Ukraine’s tanks. Etc, ad nauseum, why do I bother? They said it, it is therefore a lie: saves time.

    Who Runs the World? Blackrock and Vanguard (Sardi)”

    Speaking of why bother, this is visible, provable, and known, which is why it’s an unhinged conspiracy theory that is totally fake and untrue. True = Untrue. It’s been this way since the 50s, which is why no reporter has ever heard about or reports on it, even though it’s one of the largest influences in most major stories, like MBS bailouts in ’08. Or Obama’s election.

    If it’s true: we won’t touch it. If it’s a lie, we can’t get enough. Clearly, according Time Magazine, it’s RUSSIA that “colluded” with a highly coordinated “cabal” to choose “right guy” in the election. Oh wait: it was Blackrock and England’s MI6. My bad.

    What was that? Squirrel. RussiaRussiaRussia. Laptop Solar doorknob Russia. “Russia shut off the heat to my house!” Oh wait: that was Joe Biden.

    “Coronavirus has proven that austerity was a political choice and that the ‘Magic Money Tree’ really does exist, progressive economists have said.”

    That’s true, and they’re on about $5Trillion already. New “Human Infrastructure” bill being the opposite of the meaning of “Infrastructure”, as every. single. word. ever. said by the Anglos is a lie. Ask any Indian.

    But they are also totally, completely wrong. That’s how gas doubled, lumber went up 5 fold, Bitcoin is at $50k, and the Dow is at 34,000. All helping every rich (white) insider, and hurting every poor (brown) worker. …Sorry to add colors, but otherwise nobody cares if human brothers live or die. Only if their melanin does. Melanin is our god. Because we’re (not) racist.

    So sure, they CAN pay off every U.S. mortgage for like $500B. But Obama didn’t. He gave $23,000 billion to Goldman Sachs and Jamie Dimon, and evicted black neighborhoods instead.

    But printing money has very sudden consequences on prices we are seeing right now. Stock up. The best bet you have after Bitcoin will be canned beans.

    Statistically, father’s custody have the best outcomes. That’s why we universally do the #Opposite. Anything, anything to (hurt) the children. They noticed.

    #73722
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    I read this piece on ZH yesterday about Doug Casey’s take on the Deagel predictions, and it prompted me to re-read Dr. D’s article on Deagel from a couple of months back (I even wonder if Doug Casey didn’t get a lot of his ideas from that Dr. D piece).

    Anyway, what struck me this time was the percentages of population reductions per country: US -70%; UK -80%; Germany: -65%; France -40%, which seem to be remarkably well correlated with the expected vaccine uptake in those countries (yes, there are exceptions). I realize that this is heading far into conspiracy theory territory, but what if the real pandemic isn’t the virus, but the vaccines?

    Then there was Bill Gates a while back talking about “pandemic 2” like it was the latest update to his software and that it was “pandemic 2” that was the one to worry about. Suppose all these vaccines just prime you for the next virus to do you in? Would the whole world have to be in on this, or just a few people who can pull all the media strings?

    If somebody would like to debunk that idea, I’d be only too happy – I’m beginning to sound paranoid.

    #73723
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @absolute galor: I didn’t read yesterday’s NYT article, but I saw the headline when I was working at the grocery store yesterday, and it seemed to me the subtext of the article was, “If you don’t want to get the vaccine, then that means you’re a Trumpster trashcan!” I think the reason so many people are jumping on the vaccine wagon is that they are desperately needy for social permission to “go back to normal”. I really do think that at some point, people are going to need to realize that recovering any semblance of normalcy is going to mean learning how to live with Covid.

    But what makes the prospect of learning how to live with it so daunting is that our picture of the science is so muddled and cloudy thanks to corporate-greed economics and establishment power-politics. On one extreme you have Hillary Clinton partisans who believe the conventional wisdom to be wisdom because it’s conventional and endorsed by establishment publications, and on the other extreme you have Trumpster whackos who think gynecological problems are caused by having sex with demons and witches who appear to one in dreams and that the vaccination program is a deliberate conspiracy to instigate a mass genocide. Parsing out a science- and reality-based picture of the truth about the pandemic becomes a daunting task for those of us who realize that there’s more to dealing with a contagious respiratory virus than regurgitating Twitter-memes.

    And this goes back to what I was saying yesterday about living in an age of profound decadence, incompetence, and irrationality. If Covid would have happened thirty or even twenty years ago, I don’t think there would be this much cultural insanity around it. But I knew an age like this was coming as far back as 1994 when I was a socially-maladjusted 27-year-old. I knew back then that it was going to be bad, but of course, I didn’t imagine it would be this bad. Though I probably didn’t want to think too deeply about how bad the distant future was going to be when I already had enough on my plate dealing with my rather deep and intense social and spiritual maladjustment!

    #73724
    absolute galore
    Participant

    @Polder Dweller wrote: “…what if the real pandemic isn’t the virus, but the vaccines? …If somebody would like to debunk that idea, I’d be only too happy – I’m beginning to sound paranoid. “

    In the as far as I can imagine unlikely event that the vaccine(s) make people more receptive to dying when the next virus hits, it will more likely be because the folks that are currently experimenting with blocking the sun did not foresee the problem, not because they engineered it that way. It would be a good Hulu miniseries though, if it isn’t already.

    #73725
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    @absolute galore

    I agree that it would be an unforeseen flaw in the vaccines rather than something deliberately built in. Still, if you know how the vaccines work in detail, maybe these flaws do exist. Otherwise, and perhaps more likely, a year or down the line, blood clot problems start happening more often.

    I don’t really believe all this, it just occurred to me when I re-read the Dr. D. piece.

    #73726
    Mr. House
    Participant

    ” On one extreme you have Hillary Clinton partisans who believe the conventional wisdom to be wisdom because it’s conventional and endorsed by establishment publications, and on the other extreme you have Trumpster whackos who think gynecological problems are caused by having sex with demons and witches who appear to one in dreams and that the vaccination program is a deliberate conspiracy to instigate a mass genocide.”

    Wow.

    #73727
    Mr. House
    Participant

    show us on the doll where the trump supporters hurt you

    #73728
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Rumour has it Mary Magdeline was sort of an area pop star, like Madonna or Brittany Spears. She became famous, rich, and yet hollow as those successes are. So as she turned to other things, and just as Madonna turned to the Kabbalah, Mary M. backed the religious star of the age, and like other powerful billionaires like Joseph of Arimathea, followed on and donated essentially their lives and fortunes to this young rabbi promoting hope and change.

    Thus you can see the historic slander against her, sort of is, sort of ain’t, and so on. If he trusts her, and she’s dedicated to putting her life in a good direction, who am I to second guess?

    Later, Joseph, seeing Rome dissolve into fatal madness as would be under Caligula, Claudius, and Nero, fled to the safest, most distant portion of his fortune, his British tin mines by Cornwall, ending up in Glastonbury. Another acolyte that gave up his fortune and changed the world. Free choice. Choosing good, not evil.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/roman-authorities-investigating-jesus-for-violating-stay-in-tomb-order

    How dare you! Don’t you know your walking around resurrecting people puts everyone in danger? He must be stopped!

    #73729
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Arizona Democrats File Last Minute Lawsuit Seeking To Block 2020 Election Audit

    “The Arizona Democratic Party and Steve Gallardo, the sole Democrat on the five-member Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, argue in the lawsuit that the planned audit is in violation of “various statutory and Election Procedures Manual provisions.” They allege that the planned audit lacks various safeguards and requirements are lacking to perform a secure and reliable audit, and as such, the planned audit “undermines the integrity and security” of the state’s elections and voter information.”

    Wait, rules and procedure matter? I thought we decided they didn’t, i’m so confused.

    #73730
    Dr. D
    Participant

    If it’s predicted everywhere, and listed for decades in papers and thinktanks, it’s in multiple medical test runs and scenarios, it’s so well known it’s in dozens of movies and miniseries down to the details, like Songbird, if thousands of doctors told them, if they know mRNA failed constantly for the last 10 years for exactly this problem, if thousands of scientists have been examining their own failures with a microscope for the last 10 years, looking and they do it anyway…

    …How is it still an “accident”?

    Can we stop now? If you have knowing, craven, reckless disregard for human life, and someone gets killed, it is a violent felony, punishable by law in any nation at any time in human history. As it had predicating felonies, it is under every law we have, murder. As it involves more than 1, likely more than 100 deaths, it is legally mass murder. You can argue manslaughter, and I’m fine with that, but that’s not what the law says.

    Reckless disregard for life while in commission of a crime, is murder. At a minimum. I can make a strong case it is intentional, not unintentional, and is also a crime against humanity, globally, should anything ever happen as may be happening now. So can we stop with “Nobody knowd”, “it’s an accident” now? I knowd since February, and I’m an uneducated moron. My proof? ‘Cause I told everyone back then and that’s what they said.

    Anyway, my article was more about other things, although that exact depopulation is certainly a fine possibility that China would want and approve of. They have to or they’ll die, and as soon as it happened, they said they need +3 Chinese children. Huh? Yesterday you were running out of food. They’ve been asking Deagle that question for nearly 10 years. How, what, huh, excuse me? And P.S. who is Deagle? In 2021 how do we have lavishly researched and funded influencers running around with complete anonymity? If they were Don Jr and Alex Jones do you think their backers wouldn’t have long been discovered by the CIA/NSA and leaked? The NY Times would leak “anonymous sources” just for fun even if completely false. So who are they?

    All we need to know is not everyone is doing their job with good intent.

    #73731
    The Black
    Participant

    “Nothing will fundamentally change” – Joe Biden, 2020

    #73732
    Mr. House
    Participant

    What was on anthony wieners laptop again?

    #73733
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #73734
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Rembrandt van Rijn Christ and St Mary Magdalene at the Tomb”

    Nice hat.

    #73735
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “First time I’ve seen this. Many countries will follow. No investigation allowed.”

    There will be blood. In a world awash with arms and pain, the removal of civil justice for the death of loved ones will mean blood: in the office, in the mall, in the streets, in their homes.

    As zerosum (iirc) often reminds us, this gets the attention of the elites. Having made phony money and weapons their main industries, they find that they have sold their Monopoly on Violence along with their justification for Rule Under Law.

    #73736
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “A big nothing. But a warning at the same time.” (russian troops on Ukraine border)

    Also functional, imo. Sabre-rattling overlaps with sabre practice. They showed the world that it looks like they can hit hard but they also demonstrated to themselves that they genuinely can hit hard.

    Systems?

    Check.

    Return to base.

    #73737
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “.. render foreign satellite navigation systems completely useless, disabling an enemy’s high-precision weapons.”

    This polishes and zaps my tinfoil chapeau. Putin has to know who the major puppet-masters are. They can’t shove him around so they have to deal with him. This press release’s timing works perfectly for a tidy dismantling of the Ukraine belligerency while allowing it to continue muttering and flustering awhile yet. The message is clear:

    with conventional weapons, the USA is a sitting duck all around to Russia, period. DOA. The only option is nuclear war, Putin can say, not bluffing, and have them know this is true. It’s too ubiquitously blatant even for sociopathic NPD chowderheads to pretend otherwise.

    In a nuclear war, both sides are sitting ducks but even there, Russia again has precision hypersonics, highly superior air defense, and close to ten % more warheads, period.

    I think that the non-nuclear controlled demolition of the USA is going spankingly well from that perspective which, for me, is kind of the only perspective, really. Everything else pales compared to full-out nuclear war. Don’t give me no biowar this or cyberwar that: full nuclear war is the REAL Armageddon full meal deal.

    So I’m mostly tickled pink except that sick part of me raised on Hollywood spectacle.

    Some savvy soul ir probably already printing out We Are Ukraine t-shirts. A first run for the fake sympathy crowd. Another one with added words like: that really SUCK.

    #73738
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #73739
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    “…unproven treatments like Hydroxychloroquine.”

    Well, technically neither the Covid vaccines nor HCQ have received FDA “approval” to prevent and/or lessen Covid symptoms. At least HCQ has received FDA approval for other purposes and we know what the long term side effects are.

    #73740
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    You don’t have to read Deagle or Dr. D or anything at all to KNOW that things are breaking down at an unprecedented pace – everywhere. Just be in the world and look closely, and you will see it for yourself. Giving your full attention to it, without attachment (judgement/narratives/beliefs) – will reveal your DESTINY. Understanding your DESTINY prepares you. The process of personal DISCOVERY becomes your GUIDE and you have entered your personal “training camp” for preparing for what lies ahead.

    When I said: “A complete UNRAVELING is our DESTINY. It is the only Way forward. Humanity (on a large enough scale) is incapable of a change/a shift in consciousness at this time…However you, as an individual, can make a shift. In the process you will have to prepare yourself to let go of it all, all of it.”

    How to prepare to let go?

    Being prepared mentally, spiritually, and physically (yes, you need all 3) is essential. My training camp is right outside my front door. Each morning I leash my Border Collie and head out into the forest and hills. On my daily 3-mile-ish trek (in under an hour depending on my dog’s nose and if the squirrel, deer, bear, fox, or mountain lion has been about) my eyes open and the training begins. Crossing the seasonal creek on my property border, I note how the watershed is nearly dry and it is only April. I hear my boots crunching the earth and the dust kicks up, man its dry, bone dry and it’s only April. Heading up the trail there are dead trees everywhere. They are dying and dropping so fast it is impossible to tally the loss. A good wind puts many down to their final rest. Even the hearty manzanita are dying. The forest is a tinder box and it’s only April. Spring flowers are trying their best, and many are popping through; it is in their Nature to live, to come up, to try, to be. Grasses are not in abundance, what will the deer eat come June? It does not matter why we have a drought, or who/what caused it. It is here and the reality is that there is DEATH all around me. Face it Susan.

    I have cried, shouted, kicked, and screamed. I have come to KNOW it is not in my hands, I can not fix it. I can only bear witness – which is powerful in its own Way. I can, in the end translate the reality into LOVE. Pure LOVE. I can let go.

    #73741
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ absolute galore

    “So, we are putting sanctions on the country that is our 3rd leading supplier of oil? It seems to me that Russia could rather easily find other buyers for these half a million barrels a day–China, for instance–if push comes to shove. Or is the plan to roll a few tanks over the border, put up a green zone around the Kremlin, and take over the Russian oil fields? Another idea that should work out just fine.”

    I think we just roll over and say moo.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-tenders-euro/exclusive-russias-rosneft-to-switch-to-euros-in-oil-products-tenders-traders-idUSKCN1VB15J”

    “AUGUST 21, 20193:58 AMUPDATED 2 YEARS AGO Exclusive: Russia’s Rosneft to switch to euros in oil products tenders – traders”

    Rosneft switches contracts to euros from dollars due to U.S. sanctions

    “VERONA/MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russia’s largest oil company Rosneft ROSN.MM has fully switched the currency of its contracts to euros from U.S. dollars in a move to shield its transactions from U.S. sanctions, its Chief Executive Igor Sechin said on Thursday.”

    #73742
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ absolute galore

    “But I find myself quickly labeled an anti-vaxxer if it comes up that I have not been vaccinated. Since my reasoning for not being vaccinated is I don’t believe the situation warrants in most cases, and it is quickly taking us into totalitarian behavoir under the guise of public health, I thought it was important to express these views to others. But almost everyone is so on board, all it does is make people angry at me. (if people were dropping dead around me a la the plague, I would definitely take my place in the vaccination line). One friend last night asked me if I would let my 11-year-old get vaccinated.”

    I say to them: you’re scared of covid. I’m concerned about covid but I’m far more scared of the vaccine and this ionside-out public health policy response we’ve been dealing with for over a year now with no discernible benefits but many discernible costs including physical illness. I’m scared both for me personally and for the general public. I’ve spent easily 20 hours researching this issue, including some glaringly eye-draioning fine print in medical papers. You think I’m wrong, I I think that what you think of me won’t keep my health intact. I think getting angry and ganging up on me shows that you’re scared and willing to bully others.

    I’m not scared. I don’t bully others. Go find someone else to pick on and pretend you know more than them.

    It’s not an argument you win. It’s an argument you end… like ending a fight: FU, I don’t care, you’re stupid and your mama smells funny.

    It’s all childish ego. Treat ’em like the commercials they incessantly consume treat them: like dumbshit. Treat ’em with the schoolyard clique peer pressure they still live by.

    But smile as you do it. It’s not only powerful psyop but it’s good for your soul, especially if you can take the power you’ve just created by making this Temporary Autonomous Zone (I know; Hakim Bey’s a creep) and giving the surplus to yourself in the form of love for them in your heart.

    Do I think it is literally possible to kill someone with kindness alone? I don’t know. But I’d LOVE to find out.

    Hmmm…. maybe I should print out some 3 x 5 generic responses.

    #73743
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ POlder Dweller

    “Anyway, what struck me this time was the percentages of population reductions per country: US -70%; UK -80%; Germany: -65%; France -40%, which seem to be remarkably well correlated with the expected vaccine uptake in those countries (yes, there are exceptions). I realize that this is heading far into conspiracy theory territory, but what if the real pandemic isn’t the virus, but the vaccines?”

    Consider the other overlaps between these countries: zombie economies imploding; similar responses to covid, similarly unheralthy overfed population (France not so much but then France is the least at 40%), all under the increasingly bull’s eye red flag umbrella of NATO… so I see the vaccine as just part of a generaly concert of shared folly.

    #73745
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Susmarie108

    “I have cried, shouted, kicked, and screamed. I have come to KNOW it is not in my hands, I can not fix it. I can only bear witness – which is powerful in its own Way. I can, in the end translate the reality into LOVE. Pure LOVE. I can let go.”

    I love you.

    For you:

    The Gift

    #73746
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    But also this:

    The Fortunate Ones

    #73747
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I beging typing kovid instead of covid today. (cue Hollywood determination music)

    #73748
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    One more note on covid conversations:

    a major reason I kvetch so much about kvetching is that this tends to place the semantic information by which one can dispell covid myths in memories banks accessed by and laced with…. anger.

    And no one listens to an anrgry person, only their tone… unless the angry person is holding a baseball bat whereby you get their deeper attention. 😉

    Kvetching makes it hard to compete with smiling psychopaths who manipulate us so well. Kvetching makes it hard to smile at your neighbor as you deconstruct his biases. Deconstructing hir cognitive biases makes hem uncomfortable via cognitive dissonance. SMiling gives them the strength they need to get through it.

    Fauci always smiles. Less and less, he’s falling apart, but he got this far by getting on TV and smiling avuncularly while sticking to essential talking points.

    #73752
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘One more note on covid conversations:’

    Kovid conversations 😉

    #73753
    Antidote
    Participant
    #73757
    christianarchist
    Participant

    In gratitude for the sense of fellowship I get from reading these comments, I’d like to share a few thoughts that occur to me this morning.
    1) Letting your attention be captured by the enemy will lead to your downfall. I am in danger of this.
    2) Failing to be aware will also lead to your downfall. Most everyone I know is in this.
    3) Here in the intellectual desert that is the Seattle area, I have been driving myself more than a bit mad trying to figure out what is going on in the world, and sending signals to my local peers in the hope of locating allies. But no-one replies, and I fear I am both exhausting and exposing myself, thereby compromising my ability to defend and nurture my young family.
    4) We who love and will stand for life and truth must eventually gather together, but I don’t know where and I don’t know how.

    #73758
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    The video embedded in your article inclusion

    “Who Runs The World ?”

    It definitely crystallized my perception of what is happening. Wow!

    #73762
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    christianarchist: sending along a bit of hope from that “other coast”. 😉 I don’t know where and I don’t know how, either. But you are not alone. Hang in.

    #73763
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • One Dose Of Pfizer Or Oxford Jab Reduces Covid Infection Rate By 65% (G.)

    One aspect of that study, not mentioned in any of the news articles I’ve seen about it, is that the fully-vaccinated people were not protected against Covid-19 infection to a higher degree than the unvaccinated people who previously had a Covid-19 infection.

    There was no evidence of a difference in odds of new SARS-CoV-2 infection for individuals having received two vaccine doses and with evidence of prior infection but not vaccinated… This could be an important consideration during policy development over COVID-status certification or “COVID passports”, and supports considering both prior PCR/serological testing and vaccination data for this.”

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.22.21255913v1.full.pdf

    #73764
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310013401
    Life expectancy at various ages, by population group and sex, Canada1

    Interesting
    If you made it to 25 you can expect to live for another 55.2 years to 80.2
    If you made it to 60 you can expect to live for another 22.8 years to 82.8
    If you made it to 70 you can expect to live for another 15.2 years to 85.2
    If you made it to 75 you can expect to live for another 11.9 years to 86.9
    If you made it to 80 you can expect to live for another 9.1 years to 89.1
    If you made it to 85 you can expect to live for another 6.8 years to 91.8
    If you made it to 90 you can expect to live for another 5.1 years to 95.1

    #73765
    zerosum
    Participant

    We are like the bunny that keeps going and going through lies and truth.

    #73766
    Doc Robinson
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    The study I linked above clarifies that the effectiveness of the vaccines is measured using a control population who have no evidence of a earlier Covid-19 infection.

    Since the vaccines were found to work no better than the natural immunity conferred by a prior Covid-19 infection, this could slanted to mean that the vaccine effectiveness at preventing a Covid infection is zero percent (0%) in a population that has previously been infected.

    #73767
    Mr. House
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