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    Mark Chagall I and the village 1911   • Zelensky’s Top Adviser Threatens China With Economic Ruin (RT) • Poland’s Top General Has Some Unpopular
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 30 2023]

    #134379
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Greta oto

    When comparing oto to Thunberg, I see the following wins for oto:
    – Pretty.
    – Nice legs.
    – Flies using its own physical energy.
    – Transparent.
    – Not a gnome.
    – Lives in nature.
    – Does not travel in billionaires, hyper-carbonized yachts.
    – Does not nag.
    – Does not pretend to be outraged about climate.

    Can we vote for oto as out eco spokesman? We do all live in the shiniest democracies, just ask the Economist Intelligence Unit.

    #134380
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky’s main adviser, Mikhail Podoliak, has claimed that China must follow the West’s position on Ukraine or “lose its influence, including economic influence.”

    Yup, Kiev is the world capitol. They run the planet and tell everybody what to do down to the tiniest decision.

    I’m sure China, which could shift a little in their seat and squish them forever, will obey immediately.

    My guess is Ukraine has money laundering blackmail on all those countries listed in that pic. But China doesn’t do their money laundering through Ukraine. They do it themselves, at home.

    “Podoliak has attempted to drive a wedge between Moscow and Beijing before.”

    Who? I’m sorry, I only follow people who are relevant, from countries that are relevant. And as I say daily, it’s not 1962. There’s no wedge to put between Russia and China. The other part was, even back then, we didn’t advertise our strategy and gameplay. We just “had diplomacy” between nations, then “random things happened” in the background that we caused, and the unspoken result was to encourage Russia and China not to align. We now look back and say “ha ha” while at the time keep your mouth shut.

    “It’s simply impossible to sustain the pace, scale, and scope of the West’s multidimensional aid to Ukraine if the conflict drags on.”

    No. It’s possible. But you would have to do it. That means hardship that you would have to get popular consent for. They haven’t bothered to ask or try yet.

    ““We just don’t have ammunition. The industry is not ready”

    Like Harvard MBA’s, they are incapable of thinking of human beings, who in their prefect world of theory, don’t exist in any way, shape, or form. That’s what makes it perfect! Ah! No humans. All dead. Wot a relief! Peace at last. …In this case, they natter on like baboons about “Arms” and “Ammunition” when they no longer have “men”. Are they planning on conscripting all several million African Migrants out of France, handing them guns, and driving them into the Russian Front Line? Because that’s the only place you’ll find men, and I assure you they won’t go. Those guns would come in real handy in Paris right now.

    These Harvard MBAs will fight a war by production of arms, good advertising, truck them to warehouses on the front line, where the crates of material goods can stare down the Russian army from the shelves, very sternly, mister. …Just kidding! Harvard MBAs don’t know how to produce goods either. Obviously.

    I’m just fed up at this point with killing the entire nation of Ukraine in an ethnic genocide — 99% on the men – erasing the nation from the planet, perhaps forever, specifically paying, lavishly, to have that done…and then not noticing. What Jews? There were no Jews in Germany, no trains, no camps, whaddya talkin’ about? There were no Oglala Sioux on the plains, so obviously we couldn’t steal the land of a people that don’t exist…etc.

    ““We are tired of aristocratic explanations in Harvard words.” — A former president from around 1954.

    ““mass destruction” on the country’s military personnel and hardware.” — Medvedev

    They’re trying to kill Putin so someone much more violent will be in charge. #Winning.

    “While Western nations are working to upgrade Ukraine’s ground game with US M-1 Abrams”

    Except those need to be shipped over the ocean, and the T-14 can drive to school. Newsflash: tanks are heavy.

    Our tanks are from 1980, which compared to WWII, would be like using a tank from 1900. I’m sure that’ll be fine and not a problem at all.

    • Merkel Says She Used Everything To Try To Prevent Conflict In Ukraine (TASS)

    She even signed a treaty, didn’t enforce it, specifically to buy time to make an X00,000-man, NATO trained army to invade Russia and make an ethnic genocide! Then admitted it all on national TV. I mean, what do you want from me? If breaking treaties and creating Nazi armies of ethnic cleansing doesn’t say “Peace” I don’t know what does!

    Even right now. They’re all about Peace! They’ll do anything except stop sending $200Billion dollars in direct arms, cash, and hundred thousand mercenaries. And tell Ukraine they have to have an offensive and can only negotiate after every Russian has been removed for 1,000 miles. But other than that, it’s Peace all the way down!

    India and Coconut pic:

    Particularly Raul may be interested in the Ora Linda, https://sacred-texts.com/atl/olb/index.htm / https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40986/40986-h/40986-h.htm a text from Holland going back to 400BC. In it, we find Greeks in Holland, trade and traffic with Libya and Morroco, Crimeans, and so many other things. In this case, We find their world-wide – and quite common – sea traffic bringing news from India:

    In our country there are nuts as large as a child’s head. They contain cheese and milk. When they are old oil is made from them. Of the husks ropes are made, and of the shells cups and other household utensils are made. I have found in the woods here bramble and holly berries. In my country we have trees bearing berries, as large as your lime-trees, the berries of which are much sweeter and three times as large as your gooseberries. When the days are at the longest, and the sun is in the zenith, a man’s body has no shadow. If you sail very far to the south and look to the east at midday, the sun shines on your left side as it does in other countries on the right side. With this I will finish. It will be easy for you, by means of what I have written, to distinguish between false accounts and true descriptions.—Your Luidgert.”

    That’s ridiculous! Who has ever seen a tree with nuts as large as your head? That give cheese and milk? Seriously, some people will say anything to get attention! The Science is settled! There are NO such nuts. Sheesh. Next thing you uneducated idiots will be saying swans are black…

    “Kiev Decries EU Restrictions On Ukrainian Imports (RT)

    Did I miss something? Ukraine is not in the EU. It wouldn’t be great to put the most corrupt nation on earth in there, before Turkey. …Especially right after trying to assassinate their President. Again.

    “War Threatens Ukraine Auto Empire of Biden Megadonor (Sperry) “

    The President is a Russian puppet. Bombshell. Walls are closing in.

    “Just as Hunter could not deny DNA, forensic and other evidence will soon make his laptop denials untenable in proceedings in which he and his counsel are required to tell the truth.”

    No they won’t. Don’t be ridiculous. The media won’t report it, just as they didn’t report the world’s largest terrorist attack on NordStream, then didn’t report one of the most famous journalists reporting the attack, with step-by-step accuracy.

    Without Tucker, you can’t hear about it, so it never happened. And Tucker wasn’t fired. He still works for Fox News, and is therefore unable to speak publicly in any equal capacity to report the news. Best silence of all truth is the one I pay for. Fox and America are so Capitalist they lose billions overnight in order to never make money again, in order to PAY HIM to (not) do this. Yup, that’s Capitalism for ya.

    U.S. Largest Bank Failures:

    No Capitalism = no bankruptcy. There are no rules of law, therefore, none of these matter anymore. We have slowly, systemically erased all law until we do whatever we like. When it has problems, we print money to fill it whenever we like, and give it to whoever we like for any reason we like, in any quantity we like.

    P.S. that https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2023/04/28/254-a-tale-of-two-economies/ on “Who Takes the Loss” or “whose ox is gored” is very smart and will be the most directly relevant thing said all week. They need to erase all law so they CAN simply decree who takes the multi-trillion losses, and quite obviously also kill a few million people to take the edge off how many losses there are. As they say, they need the system to fail, but also hold together well enough that their power is not unseated. I’d say this is going extremely well, but takes a lot of time.

    “The best morale exist when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear a lot of talk about it, it’s usually lousy. “ — Jesus H. Christ, the only man who committed no sins.

    Just kidding, it’s Dwight D. Eisenhower

    Other quotes: “2 + 2 = 4” — Adolf Alois Hitler. This quote is now therefore untrue. Make of it what you will. Good luck with that algebra class.

    #134381
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    My goodness; you do go on, don’t you……………………

    #134382
    Dr. D
    Participant

    You ain’t seen nothin’. As you know, this is a slow day.

    “A Tale of Two Economies”
    #254: A tale of two economies

    Following this, if I were the ruling class, and I knew – or someone told me – the earth was an extremely violent place, and overdue for a planetary or solar system calamity, I would what? A) Build massive underground bunkers, or DUMBs B) Get a space program to colonize other planets such as the moon and Mars. This is a necessity, for the human race as a whole, that we do not get knocked back to the Stone Age again, and human culture can survive. That is to say: no cost is too high. All behavior of any sort, no matter how violent, is morally justified.

    C) To do this, we would require a productive economic foundation, and size, on the home planet capable of supporting such enormous, expensive projects. To do that, we need a lot of people, a lot of engineers, a lot of scientists, a lot of soldiers, etc. Such that, unlike Belgium in 1700, if 100,000 paid, militarized men necessary to accomplish this task disappeared, no one would notice them missing – no whole country would become inexplicably vacant, attracting questions.

    As this rapid-fire shock-project is slowly created, accomplished, and paid for, we find two things: one, that the entire planet becomes inexplicably impoverished, sapped of all wealth and brainpower. Second: allowing the population to increase has caused a predictable, but difficult-to-control compounding of human population that also saps the necessary resources for the Space/Planet project, as they must be fed and amused.

    At some point, fairly easily predicted and tuned with your own actions, the outrun of the Breakaway Society and the base Planet diverge too much, just as we see in his “Financial Economy” vs “Real Economy” charts. It’s not that we have too little oil – as discussed elsewhere with +50 year pipeline contracts monthly, whole nations nearly untapped – it’s that population is compounding too quickly and WE need that energy for OUR project: you can’t have it.

    So having accomplished their major gains: a space-age society, AI, automated robotics, the underground and above-atmosphere bases, we simply don’t need all the human base anymore, and they are more of a drain on us than they’re worth. They’re also asking questions, breaking through secrecy, and unseating governments that we use to accomplish our larger, more important goals. If they were reduced 90% we would only take a minor hit to the Space/Planet Program, yet would allow planetary stability to re-emerge.

    Therefore, since about 1980 you would run the system increasingly as if the world was ending, and law, property, civil unrest doesn’t matter. After the appropriate meetings, you would then actively decide in real time when you had gotten advanced enough and safe enough to reverse and shake off 1 – 6 Billion useless people. You therefore don’t care, and never cared, that the actual production would outrun the financial GDP promises, since you were always going to have a war and renege on them anyway.

    An argument could be made that we are at that point, and the reversal has been put into action, such that the base economy is put back to size comparative to this, still-theoretical, Breakaway Society, leaving all their real goals intact, and indeed, because of their leverage of technology, ensuring their personal dominance over this planet forever. They have Space Cars and you have bows and arrows. Like the Hunger Games.

    So having built it all, they are now harboring all resources for their next phase. Perhaps all the copper in Arizona and all the oil in Russia needs to go to Mars or a city-sized orbital base, to ensure our stability should the earth fall back into an Ice Age, or be hit by a comet as happens regularly in geologic history. The only way to get that copper at a reasonable price is when there are no competitors for it on earth, and no one has the power to resist your removal of it for their own ends.

    All these conditions are met, and others are being put in place each day. Why? Because otherwise, their economic and political actions make no economic, social, scientific, or personal sense, and that seems somewhat difficult to believe. This will also tell you why they don’t CARE. Why in fact they appear to even WANT this war, unrest, collapse, and destruction. Being highly active about causing it, while openly publishing that fact. They need the population reduced, say they want it reduced, take actions to have it reduced, and are powerful enough behind the scenes that they feel confident you can’t stop the Breakaway Society they are drawing their power from. This would help explain why even Russia is so careful: they have a sense of how powerful this secret, reserve army is were it to be broken out of hiding and applied to the present war. As powerful as NATO, but since we clearly see that NATO is an unarmed, unfunded Boy Explorer Troop, more powerful than NATO. NATO was supposed to be the “Larger military budget than the next 10 nations combined” but has 100-year-old rifles. “Where’s my money, Brian? Where did it go?”

    So you have 30 years of 10x all nations compbined spent and have nothing? Now THAT is a wild and wacky conspiracy theory. They didn’t put “digits” into a “bank”. They dug up ore and made SOMETHING. But something we can’t see or count. So where is it? Where’s my 30 years x 10x money, Brian?

    It IS somewhere. And it IS somewhere hidden, not just in Pelosi’s pathetic mansion a hobo can break into. So where is it?

    You tell me.

    This, plus that we’re nowhere near out of energy, have 50-100 more years of it, is what the “Energy Economics” smart guys are missing, although what they are printing is deeply felt and much needed. Because they don’t see this, they can’t comprehend that running financial-fantasy economics and real economics, and all the people that will riot and be killed by it, ISN’T AN ACCIDENT. Therefore, there’s nobody to warn. “They” already know, and the People, already don’t care.

    Only a few like ourselves may know, credit it, yet we’re on a sinking ship and not in command. Does that help us? And if so, how? What is to be done?

    #134384
    Alexander Carpenter
    Participant

    V. Arnold: You should be so lucky…

    #134385
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @V. Arnold I blame you.

    #134386
    zerosum
    Participant

    Did you hear the tree falling in the forest?

    Complexity is a random generator
    ————–
    Poor management by the snobs – glut/scarcity

    Feed the meat grinder with immigrants/poor/powerless/disadvantaged/sick/ignorant/obedient/mercenaries

    #134387
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The strange thing about oligarchs fighting – which is the current world status – is that they are all totally capable of eliminating the other oligarchs. I know it will happen: one oligarch will spend big bucks ridding the world of another oligarch, then the flood gates will open and they will all start spending their money killing each other until there is only one retarded oligarch left. I want to watch this movie.

    #134388
    zerosum
    Participant

    You did notice the new meat grinder , Killing field, that the USA as opened in its fight for survival.

    #134389
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Another note on the revenge hit on the Ukronazi – NATOturd bunker by hypersonic missiles in response to the raid into Russian territory in March

    Andrei Martyanov on his blog Reminiscence of the Future said a couple weeks ago that the Russians, having access to all the old Soviet bunker blueprints, had found a weak spot in the NATOturd command bunker.

    It was the ventilation system.

    Sweet

    The arrogance of NATOturd and the Ukronazis about being ‘invulnerable’ and then parking their cars right outside the entrance to the bunker (OMG how smug) got all several hundred of them killed.

    The wages of sins

    Look for the Empire of Lies Military Mafia to try and sneak their dead Goombahs from this Ukronazi bunker into Arlington Cemetery as ‘heroes’ (cough,gag,cough)

    They are not heroes, they are war whores

    Dead war whores now

    .

    #134390

    He does go on, and I read every word.

    I particularly liked part 2 today. A wild, but highly plausible imagination is a splendid gift.

    #134391
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Six days a week Serbian cable channel “happy” features one and a half hour long program where three knowledgeable guests discuss and share their opinion about current geo-political issues of today. Evening, eight PM, it covers mainly war in Ukraine, then new alliances, digital currency, vaxx, all of interest from countries in the world especially the US – in
    another word all that we at TAE are interested in, Commercial free, no stone is left unturned. What a concept and what a treat with the real cold cuts,cheese, home made brandy and good company.

    #134392
    Nemowillobserve
    Participant

    If D’s theory is correct it would make Ukraine and it’s thousands of miles of underground infistructure quite the valuable realestate. An immenent catastrophic event sure does explain the malignant oligarchs current actions. A while back Elon said he was more worried about a solar eruption than global warming. His gov funded endeavors- boring tunnels, electric cars, space craft, the colonization of Mars and transhumanism. How is it possible that Ben D is not censored on the tube? Openly challenges the coof and openly dismisses agw?

    #134393

    If I add Ben Davidson to Dane Wiggington, I can make a case for “the bad guys” to be making our atmosphere into a mirror to reflect the main impact of the micro-nova that’s about to happen.
    Many up-worlders might live through the burst, but die of the Darkness…

    #134394
    Oroboros
    Participant

    As someone recently pointed out, Ukraine is not a country anymore

    The Empire of Lies took it over in 2014 and made it a sock puppet.

    It is not a country, it’s just a concept, a media hologram, a synthetic Ukrainian ‘identity’

    The bio-labs, the money laundering, the drug narco feudalism, the Euroturdistan Prostitution Empire, the child slave pedo medical experiment organ harvesting, it’s all a shell corporation subsidiary of Empire of Lies Inc.®

    So Ukraine can not ‘fall’, it’s not even a country

    From Dmitry Orlov:
    April 24, 2019
    https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/04/24/the-saker-interviews-dmitry-orlov/

    “This political concoction was supposedly held together by a Ukrainian ethnic identity, which is itself a concoction.

    The Ukrainian language is some combination of southern Russian village dialects with a bit of Polish thrown in as flavoring.

    It has a lilt to it that Russians find enchanting, making it well suited for folk songs. But it never had much practical merit, and the working language of the Ukrainians was always Russian.

    Even today Ukrainian nationalists switch to Russian if the subject matter is demanding enough.

    Religiously, most of the population has been for many centuries and still is Russian Orthodox.In my conversations about the Ukraine with many Ukrainians over the years I discovered a shocking truth: unlike the Russians, the Ukrainians seem to have exactly zero ethnic solidarity. What binds them together is their commonality of historical experience as part of the Russian Empire, then the USSR, but this historical legacy is being actively erased.

    After the Soviet collapse and Ukrainian independence there followed a campaign to de-Sovietize and de-Russianize the Ukraine, deprecating this common historical legacy and replacing it with a synthetic Ukrainian identity based on a falsified history that is alien to most of the population.

    This fake history lionizes Nazi collaborators and attempts to rub out entirely all memory of the Ukraine’s once very active role in the larger Russian world.

    Thus we have a mostly Russian-speaking, historically mostly Russian territory where most of the people speak either Russian (some of them with an accent) or a sort of Ukrainian patois called Surzhik, which is Ukrainian-sounding but with mostly Russian words (the overlap between the two languages is so great that it is difficult to draw the line between them).

    Supposedly ‘proper Ukrainian’ is spoken in the west of the country, which had never been part of the Russian Empire, but it’s a dialect that is mostly unintelligible in the rest of the country.…”

    .

    #134395
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Actual climate science and current data, plus an ominous warning, are presented here.

    Around a year from now, we will likely know just how bad effects of the current shift in wind, ocean and heat transfer patterns will be and how devastating their effects will be.

    (Not for viewing by planetary meltdown deniers and those who think that proxy-generated data from hundreds of millions of years ago are indicators of current trends).

    #134396
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @Dr. D

    Ye have lost faith for the magic of price-seeking in free markets. No doubt it takes a similar mind devoid of empathy for the masses to concoct national, continental or planetary programs for eradication of those same masses. Their unemotional demeanor is perceived as shrewd, stoic Leadership to 99-percenters
    Dwight certainly paid a hefty price for his imperfections in a perfect world guided by ill-informed price seeking.

    Plus Jesus wasn’t without sin, original type, imperfection or wouldn’t have visited John Baptist.
    Rather the vessel of his birth was the object of the Immaculate Conception

    #134397

    Covid Psyops fun from (where else?) Yale: messaging.
    Which ones did your loved ones use on you?

    #134398
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Afewknowthetruth, you JUST SAID yesterday that CO2 increased 1.2%!!!

    Omitting that you meant on a relative basis, using EXACTLY THE SAME deceptive, misleading methods as used to lie about effectiveness of the not-a-vax.

    Apr. 27, 2023 424.60 ppm = 0.042460% – HUNDREDTHS of a percent here – of the atmosphere
    Apr. 27, 2022 419.56 ppm = 0.041956%

    0.042460% – 0.041956% = 0.000504% change

    1.2% ÷ 0.000504% = 2,380.95

    Again I ask you – how did it FEEL to lie to us by a factor of 2,380?

    But trust you. A year from now, we’ll see. Just trust. Believe. Have faith.

    And you didn’t even apologize

    #134399
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    My goodness; you do go on, don’t you……………………

    #134400
    Observer
    Participant

    jb-hb – You seem like a knowledgeable chap but you are also pretty nasty. Given the increase in extreme weather events I’d suggest you hold your tongue, comment in productive ways and let other express themselves as well. Everyone has an opinion and should be able to express that opinion without derision from others.

    #134401
    jb-hb
    Participant

    What increase in extreme weather events? Please cite sources.

    And if People Shouldn’t Be Big Meanies and are therefore Nasty, please cite the times you advised Afewknowthetruth in a similar manner. No times?

    What derision?

    If someone mentions the mathematical fact that:

    —They used the same relative math as the vax

    —They used it to lie by a factor of 2,380 (they multiplied reality by 2,380 and said THAT was reality to us)

    Is math NASTY to you?

    #134402
    Dora
    Participant

    WHO treaty.

    #134403
    jb-hb
    Participant

    He’s espousing a very, VERY, VERY nasty belief whose main effect and apparent goal is to demoralize. He posted a damn MANIFESTO this past December detailing it. 7-8 billion people would be better dead. It’d be better if you never existed or at least died now. At LEAST exist as little as possible and carry immense shame while you do it.

    The Climate Extinction message that has strangely become government POLICY all across the west, the same quasi-religious belief being drilled into everyone through every medium, to CHILDREN by their teachers and every other institution – YOU are the virus, innocent child, just starting out, you teen, you college student, you young adult just starting out.

    Based on lie after lie. And I DEMONSTRATE he is lying. Therefore you conclude I’M being nasty. For being a big enough meanie to contradict his thinking. Right.

    Do YOU believe that everyone is obligated to pretend along with people disconnected from reality or they are evil? Or perhaps obligated to treat it “fairly,” just as valid? Potentially just as valid?

    No, I’m being nasty eh?

    #134404
    John Day
    Participant

    Dr.D and Nemowillobserve seem to have a good synthesis today.

    #134405
    Oroboros
    Participant

    New Sport

    Drone Catching

    #134406
    Observer
    Participant

    Obviously I expect the same from AFKTT and all commenters. Just because we are all anonymous doesn’t mean we can’t be civil. Tone is important – you can express an opinion but please don’t be so arrogant (read: nasty) about it. There was actually nothing wrong with AFKTT math – he (I assume he) was calculating the year on year changes of one atmospheric gas relative to the units it was expressed in – there has been approx. 5ppm change year on year, which compared to last year is about 1.2%.
    Your calculations are equally valid from your perception of the problem. You could have expressed your view as an alternative way to examine the math rather than point blank saying AFKTT is wrong (and implying he is an idiot).
    Please accept that AFKTT thinks that climate change (and ecological overshoot in general) is a problem and hopefully AFKTT accepts that you don’t think it is an issue. Have a rant, express your viewpoint but please don’t let it get nasty.
    As a geologist/ecologist, I myself think that climate warming (brought about by ecological overshoot, where CO2 is an exhaust gas of our exorbitant energy consumption) is a problem – Ecological overshoot is documented across all realms of natural science literature. Climate tunnel vision is a real problem and governments will solve nothing without looking at the bigger picture.
    Some personal observations of ecological overshoot and climate warming from NZ (Airstrip 5 in AFKTT language): When all the glaciers that I visited just 20 years ago have either melted or now have massive terminal lakes in front of them, and one can now now longer hike on the lateral moraines as there is no ice to support them properly then something is wrong. When species of warm-water tropical fish are regularly caught south of the subtropical convergence zone then something is wrong. When approx. 90% of seabird species are now threatened because their young can’t dive deep enough to reach food sources that would normally be in cold surface waters because those waters are now warm, then something is wrong. When rates or erosion and runoff are so high that seagrass species and entire ecosystems that depend on that seagrass are wiped out because of siltation rates that are too high then some thing is wrong. When plant fungal diseases are endemic and spreading to previously safe areas because the ‘weather’ is now warmer and moister then something is wrong.
    There are many sentinels to suggest that substantial change is afoot – a lot of these sentinels live in or by the ocean. The oceans are adsorbing 90% of the excess energy imbalance derived from changing atmospheric chemistry (this will be in addition to unknown heat load from subsea volcanism which fluctuates). This is not to say that it hasn’t happened in the past (the geological record asserts this) but as mentioned previously it’s the rate of change that is of most concern. I’m pretty sure that humans are the factor that has upset the balance and increased the pace far more than e.g. volcanic eruptions from the past and changes in sun cycles. Entire ecosystems are in trouble and humans are not islands – climate change might not kill us but general ecological overshoot very well could with climate change being a large contributing factor.
    With respect, my two cents.

    #134407
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Empire of Lies won’t have a standing Army in five years with current personnel quitting left right and center and recruitment only drawing from a pool of less than 25% of Duh’merican youth because of drugs, obesity, and general academic stupidity.

    The Whole World is Laughing

    at the Empire of Lies

    https://twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1652295460135088132/photo/1

    #134408
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

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    #134409
    Observer
    Participant

    I don’t think anyone wishes to see mass human suffering – but what if it happens? Realistically, there is not much we can do about it if mother nature is in control – it is the nature of life that there is death. What death looks like is entirely up to us. We can try to minimize the impact but we shouldn’t deny that we are in trouble and we should acknowledge that our psychology seems to prevent us from working together. We can theoretically already feed and provide resources for the projected 10-11 billion souls predicted as our peak population, but we certainly can’t do it if we (as a species) carry on as we are with our waste and disregard for our environment. We are geologically and energetically constrained. Climate change or no climate change, that is a problem.

    #134410
    Observer
    Participant

    I don’t think anyone wishes to see mass human suffering – but what if it happens? Realistically, there is not much we can do about it if mother nature is in control – it is the nature of life that there is death. What death looks like is entirely up to us. We can try to minimize the impact but we shouldn’t deny that we are in trouble and we should acknowledge that our psychology seems to prevent us from working together. We can theoretically already feed and provide resources for the projected 10-11 billion souls predicted as our peak population, but we certainly can’t do it if we (as a species) carry on as we are with our waste and disregard for our environment. We are geologically and energetically constrained. Climate change or no climate change, that is a problem.

    #134411
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Observer said

    jb-hb – You seem like a knowledgeable chap but you are also pretty nasty. Given the increase in extreme weather events I’d suggest you hold your tongue, comment in productive ways and let other express themselves as well. Everyone has an opinion and should be able to express that opinion without derision from others.

    Keep it up jb-hb, you should not be nice to people who continuously lie and tell us they want us all dead, it is your duty to society and indeed the other readers of TAE who would like to stay alive. Observer is obviously sympathetic to the lying and killing, adding a taste of its own lies but calling it “opinion”. Shame on Observer.

    As for being allowed to express an opinion without derision from others, how old are you, five? Afraid the real world is not like that, after all there are people in the real world who want you dead and will tell you that to your face. Being nice to those people is a low priority in my world, same as being nice to the vaccinators is pretty low priority in my world.

    #134412
    Oroboros
    Participant

    VP Kamalalala

    Gonzalo swears she is always high on pot

    Hmmm……

    “Tomorrow will be today, tomorrow.”

    Groovy

    #134413
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Kamalalala can also speak volumes on Climate Change

    Climate Change, by the way, also fits nicely into the “Tomorrow will be today, tomorrow” meme

    Weather forecast: Tomorrow will be very High

    Hahahahaha

    Kamala Harris’s Dad Calls Her Out for Perpetuating Pot-Smoking Jamaicans Stereotype

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    #134414
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Observer said

    We can try to minimize the impact but we shouldn’t deny that we are in trouble and we should acknowledge that our psychology seems to prevent us from working together.

    Shouldn’t deny that we are in trouble? Wow, this is confused. You think that being nice is what enables us to work together? Let me tell you a story: one of the nicest people I know, she was head of PR in the Hong Kong government, obviously a senior position. She brought up two very well adjusted children and has a great husband. She was telling us how, 30 years ago, just after the HK handover, the HK government decided to run a recycling campaign to improve their image abroad. They put out recycling bins and lots of publicity telling people to split their garbage into the different bins. The campaign was a success, people were dividing up their rubbish as instructed. The only problem with this story is that in the senior meetings that this lady attended, the managers openly admitted that the garbage collectors would have to collect these bins and put them into landfill. Yes, the whole campaign was a fraud, there was no recycling going on, all the divided up material was going to the landfill, as it had done before.

    Why would such a nice person participate in such a big lie to her own fellow citizens? She has many other similar stories to tell, so why would the same nice person, aware person, then get vaccinated when Covid came around? Being nice has nothing to do with anything. It may make you “feel” better but it does not fix anything. In fact, the civilization we enjoy today is not built on being nice. Being nice is what the 1960’s hippies were all about, the sexual revolution was all about, all those early symptoms of a failing civilization, they were all about being nice. Woke is now about being nice to minority freaks. The world will not improve by being nice, it will just get worse.

    #134415
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Observer said

    When species of warm-water tropical fish are regularly caught south of the subtropical convergence zone then something is wrong.

    Ahhhhh, get away from me satan. Why is it “wrong”? Who are you to decide that it is “wrong” simply because it is different to what happened when you were born. Who are you to say that the climate cannot change and super-adaptable humans should not use that adaptability to stick with mother nature rather than fighting against mother nature. Why do we have to start a war against mother nature just because of what you perceive to be “wrong”? The same hysterics happened over the bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef, fortunately we were unable to do anything to “fix” that problem, we had to leave it alone, and now the GBR is more successful than at anytime in living history.

    #134416
    WES
    Participant

    So US neocons are saying Russia has been greatly weakened by the war in the Ukrainian.

    Top US general says Russia is now stronger than before the war in the Ukraine started.

    If the US loses the war in the Ukraine, the US military’s budget will need to be doubled!

    Heads or Tails, how can the MIC possibly lose?

    #134417
    Dora
    Participant

    Thread with Ed Dowd.

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    Oroboros
    Participant

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