Debt Rattle December 22 2023

 

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  • #149009
    John Day
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    This action flies people transported to the US by global organized crime syndicates to essentially any US city they name. This is like cancer metastasizing distantly.
    “Public Has A Right To Know” – O’Keefe Exposes Bussing Of Migrants Direct From Border To Phoenix Airport
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/james-okeefe-confronts-bus-driver-shipping-migrants-border-phoenix-airport

    Only Half of All Ford Dealers Agree to Sell EVs Next Year
    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Only-Half-of-All-Ford-Dealers-Agree-to-Sell-EVs-Next-Year.html

    #149010
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “This week’s decision by the Colorado Supreme Court to bar former President Trump from the presidential ballot has led to expected repercussions: Republicans across the country are threatening revenge barring Biden from red state ballots.”

    #149011
    Oroboros
    Participant

    War Crimes R US for the Holidays

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    #149012
    Oroboros
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    Macron is a pussy and will keep his pie-hole shut

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    #149013
    John Day
    Participant

    French Foreign Affairs Ministry official killed by Israeli bombardment in Gaza
    Ahmed Abu Shamla, an employee of the Gaza consular office for over 20 years, died on Saturday. Part of his family had been evacuated from Gaza, but he had chosen to stay with his adult children.
    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/12/18/french-foreign-affairs-ministry-official-killed-by-israeli-bombardment-in-gaza_6354377_4.html#

    #149014
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Who knew? Jake Sullivan and Fareed Zakaria recently wrote lead-essays in Foreign Policy, Washington’s Nr. 1 Grand-Strategy magazine.

    F.S.

    #149015
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    I don’t think we will see a return of the sea peoples, but I can’t rule it out either.”

    The Mediterranean and adjacent waters were how people got around in those days. Small stuff could be delivered by other means (just like we do now with trucks, trains and airplanes) but for big stuff and large numbers ships were the main practical means of major transport. Calling the invading forces The Sea Peoples just because they moved around in boats was (in my view) deliberately misleading as to their identity. The Sea Peoples (so called) were the equivalent of what the BRICS are today, basically a loosely knit consortium of ALL the people that the Bronze Age empires (predominantly Egypt, but also a few others) that the empires had been exploiting and abusing until (like today) the mismanagement of the empires tipped the scales against the empires. They went down like dominoes, and FAST, with Egypt barely surviving, and clearing the way for the next round of mayhem called Greece, Persia, Rome, Mongols and eventually Rome version 2 (the “Holy” Roman Empire, so called, otherwise known as “The West”) that is finally on its last legs now.

    Interesting times.

    #149016
    zerosum
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    ” create conditions for a cease fire”

    create conditions to stop hostilities
    create conditions to end depopulation
    create conditions to end hate
    create conditions to have peace
    create conditions that stops racism
    create conditions that create “king of the hill”

    ———
    Word salad.

    Hello, this is Bing.
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    If you want to learn more about cease fires, I can tell you that they are temporary agreements to stop fighting, usually during a war or a conflict. They can be negotiated by the parties involved, or by third parties such as the United Nations, regional organizations, or other countries. Some of the conditions that may be required for a cease fire are :

    A clear and mutual understanding of the terms and duration of the cease fire
    A mechanism to monitor and verify the compliance of the parties
    A process to address any violations or disputes
    A commitment to resume dialogue or negotiations to resolve the underlying issues
    A provision for humanitarian assistance and access to affected populations
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    Just let me know what kind of content you want me to create, and I’ll try my best to do it.

    #149017
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The Sea Peoples – or other invading people – the possible cause of the Bronze Age collapse and dark age – worse than the medieval one

    Writings that survive seem to express bewilderment – where are these people even coming from? The specific Hyskos that sailed into Egypt seem a bit more definite, but not very.

    I think it was just Iron.

    Bronze was scarce and used by the rich guys, who liked to fight from chariots. They had a military system, system of government etc and something upset that.

    I think it was the introduction of Iron ,which gave everybody weapons and caused a revolution in militaries all over Europe, the Mediterranean, and Near East. The Jews’ god was known as the Lord Of Hosts – and Isreal was held together by a militia ruled NOT by kings. Rome was violently against kings and had a fiercely powerful militia. The Greeks came into the new written era with citizen hoplite armies.

    I suspect that most of the changes and conflict were simply the power differential being completely and from a historical period suddenly closed. To the point where the surviving national identities from post bronze age emanate from these citizen militias that were made possible by Iron. “new peoples” being actually the people right there, now bearing arms. Which in turn had economic consequences, which in turn had consequences in philosophy, art, sculpture, architecture, etc. How far would have it have gone if the kings in their palaces armed with copper/bronze and chariots went on unchanged?

    #149018
    zerosum
    Participant

    It’s getting to be serious fighting.
    CONFIRMED:Islamic Resistance in Iraq targeted the Israeli Karish gas field in the Mediterranean sea.
    Source from the Islamic Resistance in Iraq tells Al Jazeera that the group targeted the Karish gas field operated by the Israeli occupation entity near the Lebanese-Palestinian coasts.

    #149019
    SeaBirds
    Participant

    ‘Power is the horse ridden by evil’

    Greed is its travelling companion

    #149020
    teri
    Participant

    @ Phoenixvoice:

    Milei is no doubt well-educated, but has some very strange personal beliefs. For instance, he claims that his dead dog sits at the right hand of God and advises him through visions. Weird dude. Also, a very cruel dude.

    Economically, he is a neoliberal. Neoliberalism predates libertarianism, and is perhaps more extreme than the latter. His embrace of Milton Friedman and “shock treatment” should have been a glaring red light to the voters, although given Argentina’s stumbling around under the IMF strictures has no doubt left them seeking any alternative, no matter how unrealistic. Milei will not give them what they seek. They are in for a world of hurt.

    Milton Friedman and the Chicago boys ruined Chile under the rule of Pinochet, who brought the group in to run the economy when he overthrew Allande. Chile is just now starting to come out from under the effects of that, all these many decades later. Here is a fairly recent article on what the Friedman people did to Chile:

    The Complicated Legacy of the “Chicago Boys” in Chile

    The Friedman doctrine embraces extreme individualism at the cost of social cohesion. Friedman’s “shock treatment“, a term that Milei is currently using to describe what he is doing in Argentina, leads to extreme wealth inequality, lack of gov’t support for social programs, the implementation of austerity programs, the privatization and market capture of all economic activity; aka: neoliberalism. There is no “common good” worth saving or investing in, according to the neoliberals; it is dog-eat-dog and may the strongest man win all the prizes.

    Here is what Milei has already started to do in Argentina:

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/argentina-protests?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=2b3e28ab04-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_12_15_08_47_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-68f4d62cd9-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D

    I sometimes check on Michael Hudson’s website (he is a great economist – one of the best, in my opinion) to see what he is saying about current events and serendipitously, his latest article is about neoliberalism. He also discusses Marxism along the way:

    https://michael-hudson.com

    Also, you may want to read the book “The Shock Doctrine” by Naomi Klien. I read it years ago, and have found that she was prescient in her predictions that shock doctrine would be coming home to the US.

    Of course, I am totally on the wrong website to be recommending such readings; everyone around here seems to think that Hillary Clinton is a “liberal” (LOL), Joe Biden is a “progressive” (LOL), and that socialism/communism/fascism/wokeism/Marxism/Jacobism/dictatorship are all completely interchangeable terms.

    I wish the people of Argentina well. There is enough pain in the world now, and it doesn’t look any too rosy going forward into the new year no matter what country you live in.

    Peace to you and your house.
    – Teri

    #149021
    John Day
    Participant

    @DBS & jb-hb: The “see the return of the sea peoples” comment was not initially mine, but it’s a good topic, distantly reflecting an epoch, of which ours is likely an echo or a rhyme. They were like Vikings, weren’t they? They could have come from long distances to do their raiding … They could have been Atlanteans, or “Frisians”, which might have been the same thing,
    “Dutch”, we might call a modern Frisian…
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40986/40986-h/40986-h.htm

    #149022
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://imgs.search.brave.com/BhwNJCzAa4dwUjBzcv0mtNjj2uZyRDEbAfXGtS48elc/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tLm1l/ZGlhLWFtYXpvbi5j/b20vaW1hZ2VzL0kv/NTE3WDFXTW0waUwu/anBn

    #149023
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Of course, I am totally on the wrong website to be recommending such readings; everyone around here seems to think that Hillary Clinton is a “liberal” (LOL), Joe Biden is a “progressive” (LOL), and that socialism/communism/fascism/wokeism/Marxism/Jacobism/dictatorship are all completely interchangeable terms.

    I don’t think anyone here- no matter how much we disagree with each other – thinks anything like that of Hillary or Joe

    But yes, Wokeism is Marxism – the people who invented it TOLD YOU just like Hitler told you in Mein Kampf.

    Their holy tenets such as White Consciousness is just the False Consciousness invented by Engels in the 1800’s as a cope for all “conditions” for Workers Rising Up, but not happening despite being predicted as inevitable by Marx. Brought out and given a new paint job after the fall of the soviet union thinking, well, we cannot divide the US along class lines, but surely race lines will work.

    So a failure cope using a previous failure cope TO cope. Failure squared.

    #149024
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Did you see the Bronze Age swords of which some are maintained as new?

    Chi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Goujian#/media/File:20230208_Bronze_sword_used_by_King_Goujian_of_Yue_01.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Goujian

    It was a very different world. Eternal and enduring, more temporary and disposable exponentially with each passing year.

    CRT:7:22 Now, some days later Idalvar and his retinue, accompanied by Herthew and Habaris, went to the gathering place for folkfeasts, some five days journey away. People were accustomed to meeting here every thirteen moons to celebrate the season of fruitfulness, many coming a great distance. Beside the gathering place was the compound of a far-framed seer and warlock called Gwidon, who, in the fullness of the moon on the third night, would prophesy events for the forthcoming year.

    CRT:7:23 Idalvar and those with him presented their gifts and took their places before the compound. Presently, Gwidon came out cloaked in the skins of wild dogs, with a horned crown and skull-headed staff. He seated him self before a small fire, into which he threw prescriptions, making a cloud of smoke, which completely enveloped him. When this had drifted away, he seemed to be asleep, but after a while, he lifted his head; then raising himself up, he started to prophesy.

    CRT:7:24 He talked awhile of small matters, then told of dangers to the people through enemies who would bear down from the Northlands. He prophesied a great bloodletting, telling people they would be saved by a great war leader, a king knowing the secret of the bright blade, himself a warwielder of one. He exhorted the people to bestir themselves and prepare, wasting no time in finding their leader.

    CRT:7:25 No man among the people knew the mysteries of the bright blade except Habaris, but he was not a man of battle and Herthew was not high born among them. So, though they talked long, they talked in tangles, failing to resolve the issue. It was then decided each should go his own way, but they should meet at the same place again at the next full moon, when Gwidon would be able to help with their decision.

    CRT:7:26 When Idalvar returned to his encampment, he was no longer hesitant about the marriage of his daughter, ordering that it should take place forthwith. But he stipulated that Habaris must initiate him and his sons into the mysteries of the bright blade immediately. This being agreed, arrangements for the marriage were put in hand.

    CRT:7:27 Habaris and Klara were married, and Idalvar and his sons partially initiated into the mysteries of the bright blade, for the king was told it would take some time for the initiation to be completed. So when they next went to the meeting place, Idalvar was proclaimed the war leader, with his sons to follow according to their ages, should he fall in battle. But Habaris had spoken to Gwidon in secret, and matters were so arranged that should the sons of Idalvar fall, then Herthew would become the battle chief.

    CRT:7:28 The king and those with him returned to their home compound where they were to prepare battlemen, but Herthew was to go back to the gathering place and there train fighting men in the battle tactics which brought them clashing into the foe.

    CRT:7:32 Habaris visited Herthew and, on his return, told the king that he and his sons would now receive their final initiation.

    CRT:7:33 So, having made preparation, they set off, accompanied by Klara, to the place of the thunderstones, this being a deeply cleft mountain wherein there was a large cavern, from which flowed a river. Entering the cave, Habaris told those with him to bide where they were, for only Idalvar, his sons and Klara were to accompany him into the place of initiation, a small cave entered through a long narrow passage closed off by a heavy door and lit by a fire already prepared, a fire which burnt tardily with a blue flame.

    CRT:7:34 When a length of time had passed, those who waited without grew uneasy, but it was long before they approached the door, and when they did, their throats were seized, so they were affrighted and fled, and one among them died. Then, those who knew the mysteries of the thunderstones came and cleared the way, and all within the cave were found dead. Habaris did what had to be done, for though it is well for men to conform to the laws of men, there is a superlaw, by which men who are men should live, and which sometimes decrees that they must die.

    CRT:7:35 Herthew married the daughter of Idalvar, and they had a son who died in his seventh year. Idalvar’s daughter died in childbirth. The invaders came and were defeated with a great slaughtering, and Herthew became the first king over all the people of Krowkasis.” That is, the Caucasus. This is a very old book indeed to tell directly of Bronze Age kings, and this comes in chronology long before the Flood and Gilgamesh. https://archive.org/details/TheKolbrinBibleCOMPLETE/

    If everyone was reading the Orra Linda, ( https://sacred-texts.com/atl/olb/index.htm ) then maybe this will interest you. I wonder what “Thunderstones” are. Surely when I hear it it will all become obvious.

    #149025
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Economically, he is a neoliberal.”

    I am very concerned about this, and fear it the most likely scenario for him. Not only would that be terrible for Argentina, not only terrible in dashing their hopes, but also will discredit the Economic Right, which somehow has the Chicago School and Libertarian/Mises in the same basket. But I very much fear so. He seems to have been set in to stop BRIICS, and allow the pillaging of NY/Wall Street instead of different pillaging of the former crooks. Worse for us, to liquidate all Argentina the way we “liquidated” Ukraine may additionally delay the much needed U.S. collapse and reset. It’s great to be outspoken and eccentric, I don’t mind it, it’s nice to be an outsider, but every red flag is coming up for me here. .

    #149026
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    That painting is a perfect example of using art to destroy a society. Right now we are receipients of plans 100 years old, driven like sheep by jewmedia into a slaughterhouse. TV is kosher theatre, and if you’re on there, you’re bought and paid for…Ritter, Tucker, all of em…full of shit. Jewbanker runs the show. Money talks. Everyone pretends this is not so. Sooner or later , reality, a real motherfucker, is gonna punch you in the face. You are no different than Assange, a Palestinian, a Ukrainian, an Iraqi, an Afghani, it has come home…its coming for you.

    #149027
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Reading that Sword of Goujian, my continual thought was – boy, Robert E Howard really got it right

    #149028
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Teri. I also like Michael Hudson’s approach. I see him as a classical economist, but he seems “Marxist” to some commenters here. I think he completely understands Marx, and Keynes, and more, and explained the petrobuck in “Super Imperialism” when Nixon ran out of gold. It sold the first printing in Washington, then Nixon & Kissinger headed to Riyadh to get it in writing. One of the Rockefellers discovered him and put him to work at Chase Bank in the early 1960s, as I recall. Rockefellers spot talent.

    #149029
    Dora
    Participant

    Sasha Latypova’s substack.
    Just a few degrees away from the truth lies not the truth
    Dr. Mike Yeadon’s post on telegram pointing to diversion/stalling tactics used to spin the narrative by experts in the 5th gen warfare to steer away from the truth
    https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/dr-mike-yeadons-post-on-telegram

    #149030
    John Day
    Participant

    All these people later went into the cleft-rock with a river and thunderstones and died.
    Presumably Habaris knew they would all die, including himself and his new wife..
    …Habaris and Klara were married, and Idalvar and his sons partially initiated into the mysteries of the bright blade…
    … Entering the cave, Habaris told those with him to bide where they were, for only Idalvar, his sons and Klara were to accompany him into the place of initiation, a small cave entered through a long narrow passage closed off by a heavy door and lit by a fire already prepared, a fire which burnt tardily with a blue flame…
    …When a length of time had passed, those who waited without grew uneasy, but it was long before they approached the door, and when they did, their throats were seized, so they were affrighted and fled, and one among them died. Then, those who knew the mysteries of the thunderstones came and cleared the way, and all within the cave were found dead. Habaris did what had to be done…

    Did this cleft in the rock, with a “blue flame”, emit natural gas? Did they smother? Was the blue flame inside the closed doors making carbon-monoxide?
    “Throats were seized”, “one died”.

    #149031
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    It’s a safe bet if you hide behind a cartoon of green chicken!

    Peak Cheap Oil is a Myth

    https://substack.com/home/post/p-139990248?source=queue

    F.S.

    #149032
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    Today it is clear that on both the Ukraine and Gaza fronts, the situation of World War 3 has not developed necessarily to the West’s advantage.

    Due to funding cuts, Ukraine is reportedly running short of artillery shells. Drones spotting armor concentrations and directing artillery fire quickly and accurately on target stopped earlier attempts at maneuver warfare dead and led to an extended trench war. If Ukraine can’t destroy Russian tanks and personnel carriers anymore, a successful winter offensive to take Odessa and the Black Sea Coast would finish off Ukraine as a nation and result in splitting apart of EU and NATO. Joe Biden would be the “losingest” President of all times.

    The Houthi’s targeting of ships with drones in the Red Sea is shutting down traffic through the Suez Canal. The Israeli fanatical bombing of Gaza Strip will continue until all of the Palestinians are driven into the Sinai Peninsula. The USA is incapable of encircling Yemen and pacifying the Houthis. This must be a given since the Pentagon wasn’t tasked to plan an invasion. As long as the Gaza war continues, the only alternative to going around the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa to Europe by ship is through Russia by train or air transport. Shortages and inflation will continue and accelerate despite the propaganda that this is the best of all possible economies, ever.

    #149083
    WES
    Participant

    Russia is short of Drones:

    Russia is so short of drones they have been forced into droning Ukrainian speed boats crossing the river.
    To make matters worse, Russian soldiers can now order a bottle of water (vodka?) to be delivered to their foxholes on the front line!
    Next they will be ordering in pizza!
    Delivery in 15 minutes or the pizza is free?
    What is the world coming too?

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