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  • #96372
    D Benton Smith
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    As the volume of shit hitting the fan increases there will be more (and more easily seen) instances of scenario #1 and scenario #2 playing out in public view.
    Scenario #1 : people with inordinate quantities of too much stuff will be caught up in violent efforts to protect and keep that “wealth” from folks who need or want to take it without permission.
    Scenario #2 : people fatally deficient in stuff (like food, shelter and know-how) will be caught up in violent efforts to take that stuff from people who don’t want to let them do that.
    Both parties in both scenarios will therefore be directly in harms way . . . not a strategically advisable position to strive for.
    Don’t fall for or get trapped in either of those scenes. Seek the middle way. Have or make the stuff you’rre going to need, and/or learn how to do so . . . and then share / exchange those assets and skills with like minded people, even if you have to go find such people somewhere else. Strive for the MIDDLE, which becomes harder and harder to reach as conflict pushes folks to one or the other of the two extremes (greedy selfish armed guards vs starving desperate thieves). The middle becomes the only place where survival is likely, but is simultaneously the hardest place to get to.
    There’s not a lot of time left to pre-set the conditions for the one you want.

    #96373
    chris_gee
    Participant

    The section on euthanasia in NZ for covid patients is misleading.
    The original article citing the freedom of information act response starts by saying “Patients admitted to hospital with Covid -19 can die by euthanasia if doctors decide they may not survive.”
    Not true actually.
    The report goes on to state the criteria apparently from the M.O.H. but omitting all the ANDS which appear in the legislation End of Life Choice Act 2019 section 5.
    This reads,
    Meaning of person who is eligible for assisted dying or eligible person
    (1)
    In this Act, person who is eligible for assisted dying or eligible person means a person who—
    (a)
    is aged 18 years or over; and
    (b)
    is—
    (i)
    a person who has New Zealand citizenship as provided in the Citizenship Act 1977; or
    (ii)
    a permanent resident as defined in section 4 of the Immigration Act 2009; and
    (c)
    suffers from a terminal illness that is likely to end the person’s life within 6 months; and
    (d)
    is in an advanced state of irreversible decline in physical capability; and
    (e)
    experiences unbearable suffering that cannot be relieved in a manner that the person considers tolerable; and
    (f)
    is competent to make an informed decision about assisted dying.

    These are not alternative clauses but all must apply. Further the request must originate with patient not the doctor.
    All the MÓ.H said was yes there may be occasions where this applies to a Covid-19 patient. AS in this may be one of the conditions in which these circumstances apply. Unlikely however that it is a terminal illness likely to result in death within 6 months, with unrelievable pain and the patient is conscious and able to request it.
    There is no suggestion that patients could be terminated if the doctor decides on the basis of a bed shortage.

    #96374
    Bill7
    Participant

    A fragment of a comment found elsewhere, the context being the US-Russia-Ukraine
    skirmishing:

    “..The Core public bickering has many layers to mask the agreement on vaxing, other aggressive measures of social control. That is the covert, common interest of all, China, Russia and the US, International Corporations, anything that holds power. All players seem to agree nicely on the decision as to who the real enemy is. The commoner populations, their obese bulge planetarily, their disgenic tendencies, their polluting presence, their obsoleteness in technological sophisticated society, their irresponsive-ness to financialised herding, is the real game. The power players are just deciding on the quota of deplorables and their attributions territorially wise, the sum of their sorry bones. Conquering territory as in the traditional sense is pulp fiction..”

    Not sure about the tast sentence RE resources, but otherwise seems to fit the facts.

    #96375
    teri
    Participant

    “President Joe Biden on Monday pledged to support governors struggling with the omicron variant of Covid-19,  but acknowledged the states will need to take the lead in controlling the pandemic.
    Speaking just before a meeting with some of the nation’s governors, Biden said: “There is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” […]”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/27/biden-says-covid-surge-needs-to-be-solved-at-state-level-vows-full-federal-support.html
    ***************

    So, what about those FEDERAL vaccine mandates you got going there, Nimrod? Can we toss those?

    #96376
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @chris_gee

    Your argument ignores the most salient and crucial axiom of all medicine, all law, and all ethical systems : that the most fundamental criterion for right and wrong is based upon the instrinsic value of life itself. There is nothing, literally no thing at all, more valuable than the value of life. All other values derive from that one, and are subordinate to it. Your so-called euthanasia ( “good” death) places a whole basket of lessor, worthless or even inverted concepts as being of comparable or even overriding value. Nonsense on the face of it.
    The reasoning supportive of euthanasia is absurd to the point of proactive evil. Its promoters and practioners could , however, start with themselves as ;proof of concept’ examples of what a great idea it is. Then if that works out well for the rest of us we will express our appreciation by carving something grateful on the volunteers’ gravestones.

    #96377
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Oxymoron’s comments about the urban agricultural propsects of Melbourne — viz. small to none — resonate well with me. The ACT (Canberra) government is increasingly concerned about its food supply, and thanks to a large number of Greens in the Assembly (parliament) is actually doing something positive about it. I am one of a number of people and teams contributing to a study into securing Canberra’s food supply. The ACT imports something like 90% of its food. Not sustainable, especially as toomuch of it relies on diesel fuel to get it here, and the whole country is in a precarious position regarding stocks and flows of diesel AND urea. No diesel, no food. We have been governed by myopia in both major parties for decades.

    Melbourne and Sydney both are governed by devout growthist neoliberals who see no limits at all to any economic activity. In the main they believe that The Market if not regulated or hindered in any way and left to itself will infallibly and spontaneously produce endless prosperity.

    Owing to the sharp drop in population growth due to the Plague border closures, the Australian Chamber of Commerce & Industry is demanding 200,000 or more “skilled” migrants annually as soon as borders re-open. The NSW government Treasury has called for 400,000 per year for 5 years. Never mind that this growth causes declining biodiversity, worsening traffic congestion, unaffordable housing (young people haven’t a hope), climate change, water shortages, infrastructure overload, loss of soil and natural areas. Nah, no worries: technology and growth will pay to fix all of that. Talk about a cargo cult.

    Please make the insanity stop.

    #96378
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Dr. John, thanks so much for restating so much of what we already know, connecting the dots…

    Coming from you it helps me feel less crazy with all the gaslighting & constant mindfuckery we’re all enduring…

    A German pathologist performed autopsies on fifteen post-inoculation patients who died, and found that >90% had their organs attacked by their immune systems (autoimmunity)…

    The conclusion (if supported by further data) is that essentially EVERY inoculant recipient suffers damage, with more damage after each shot. The damage could be cumulative, and the shots may be synergistic. Given the seriousness of the types of damage (autoimmune diseases, cancer, re-emergent dormant infections, clotting/strokes, cardiac damage, etc.), these effects will translate into lifespan reduction, which should be counted as deaths from the inoculations.

    So, in the USA, where ~200M people have been fully inoculated, the number of deaths will not be the 10,000 or so reported in VAERS, or 500,000-1,000,000 scaled-up deaths from VAERS, but could be closer to tens of millions (or more) when the inoculation effects play out!

    Staring down the barrel of this stark reality is like watching a comet heading straight for all major cities…

    There’s nothing funny about it, nothing entertaining one bit, unless you’re a misanthrope 😐

    Are we headed for the situation where the ~30% unvaxxed will be devoting their lives to operating whatever is left of the economic infrastructure and serving as caretakers for the vaxxed?

    I truly wish those of us that rejected TPTB’s Build Back Better psyop could pull together for the good of the community, but I’m afraid that between the sheeple, mercenaries, quislings & psychopaths flaying about on their way down + collapse of the real reality economy & infrastructures, it’ll be near impossible to overcome insane malevolent forces acting out in unpredictable ways…

    The best those of us that survive what is happening can do is to form small, unobtrusive communities of “safe” people, prepared to live off the grid as best possible, maintaining modern facilities where we’re able 😐

    #96379
    WES
    Participant

    Let’s Go Brandon really picked a very successful winner, kamala harris, for his VP!
    Shortly after becoming VP, her handlers put her into rehab.
    Even with glowing MSM talk shows appearances, her “rehab” results plumbed new lows.
    Her handlers then fired the first “rehab” and entered her into a second “rehab”.
    With fawning MSM support, the results of her second “rehab” propelled her to newer lower lows.
    She just doesn’t get it!
    Her handlers have repeatably failed to make something out of nothing!
    There is talk of replacing her with Nancy.

    Nobody is talking about replacing Let’s Go Brandon!
    Kamala is doing a great job of following in the footsteps of Dan Quayle!
    Let’s Go Brandon is so happy!
    He couldn’t have asked for a better VP!
    She gets it!

    #96380
    WES
    Participant

    Veracious Poet:

    To follow up to your earlier opinion that those working for the New York Times were amoung the slimyest people you ever dealt with.

    You had evey reason to feel this way! The reason is very simple. The New York Times is the “official” mouth piece for the FBI!

    Whenever the FBI wants to manipulate the news, they use the NYTimes to set the MSM’S agenda!

    If the CIA wants to manipulate the MSM, they use the Washington Post, their “official” mouth piece! Ever wonder why Facebook (started with CIA funds – the CIA loved a spy network where victims spy and report on themselves in real time) owns the Washington Post? Now you know why!

    If you are the State Dept and you want to manipulate the MSM, you use CNN, their “official” mouth piece!

    You will see this pattern over and over again!
    Look for it!
    Who first wrote the story?
    Who is trying to set the narrative?

    So if the NYTimes first reports, it is the FBI!
    So if the Washington Post breaks the story first, it is the CIA!
    So if CNN headlines a story first, it is the State Depart!

    Always look for this repeating pattern!

    #96381
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Awesome antique lights show, zerosum!

    #96382
    Dora
    Participant

    Biden punts to the states as reality starts seeping into MSM commentary.

    “The devastating impact of Covid policies on children….”

    #96383
    chris_gee
    Participant

    I did not make an argument for or against euthanasia rather showed the law passed after a referendum. That you hold life is sacrosanct in all circumstances is a view, but it is not hard to see that the application of this fails in many areas of social justice, environment etc.

    #96384
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #96385
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    /\ Guess who the unvaccinated are /\

    #96386
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #96387
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Wes

    I had a front row seat to the lead up to dumping Nixon, working a lot in Maryland at the time.

    The problem was the VP Spiro Agnew, former Gov of Maryland.

    He was as dirty as a bull’s balls and all the officials plotting Nixon’s demise knew it but needed proof.

    There was no way “they” were going to get rid of Nixon only to have Agnew become president.

    So a head hunt was commenced to find dirt on Spiro, not that hard to find but harder to proof in court.

    As Gov, Agnew had been shaking down all the contractors and engineering firms in Maryland for “donations”, in cash, if they wanted state building contracts. A common con of maggot politicians since fire was invented.

    Spiro went from a local school board head in Baltimore County in 1959 to VP of the US in 1968.

    Quite a meteoric rise for a moron two-bit county grifter to Vice president in less than ten years.

    So the Watergate Committee sent out the word to find a county official, a small fish, who knew where Agnew’s skeletons were buried.

    Start with small fish and squeeze them until their heads almost pop, and they will spill the beans.

    They cornered a Baltimore county commissioner and waterboarded him so to speak and he gave them a state official who didn’t want to die in jail, and up the chain, as they say, they went……until Spiro’s nuts were in the cracker and he pleaded ‘no contest’ in court, thus paving the way for the Senate to put Gerald Ford in the VP spot to replace Nixon, which he did, becoming the First completely un-elected president in US history. Ta-Da! Sweet!

    To day, “They” need to flush Kamel-a down the hopper before Let’s Go Brandon is terminated.

    Can’t wait for this show to begin.

    Maybe have a crazied un-vaxxed false flagger sneeze repeatedly in Old White Round Eyed Joe’s face after ripping off his face-diaper during a fake ‘Town Meeting’ in dur Homeland.

    Anything is possible at this point.

    The Sheeple will lap it up no matter how deranged the plot, the more ludicrous the better.

    It was Aliens that Abducted Xiden Biden to study his intricate thought processes! OMG!

    #96388
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Study: At least 400,000 people in America have died from covid “vaccines”

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-27-study-400000-people-america-died-covid-vaccines.html

    #96389
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    In the absence of life, social justice is a meaningless assembly of alphabetical characters. Using the value of life as the paramount value against which success and/or failure are measured, is completely sensible. Using it as the standard of measure doesn’t guarantee or even imply efforts to achieve it will never fail or fall short. But it does guarantee that success and failure can at least be measured in terms that make sense to the only enities capable of listening or caring about it : living things.

    #96390
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #96391
    John Day
    Participant

    @Herr Werner, Both COVID (if bloodborne) and vaccines can infect and hrm the heart muscle cessls and their support cells, the pericardiocytes. Maybe 10% of young, healthy athletes get systemic COVID, but all “vaccinations” put spike protein in the blood, and the cells that are making it get attacked by lymphocytes, sometimes other cells, too, autoimmune disease.

    This covers that, and also the question about autopsies (rare events): As Evidence of Pathogenic Priming Mounts, Calls for New Medical Approaches to Mute Autoimmunity Must Be Addressed
    A compilation of evidence is disturbing. Further mass casualities might be preventable.
    ​ ​Pathogenic priming, as originally described, is the act of exposing people (or animals) to epitopes that match human proteins, leading to the inducement of autoreactogenic antibodies that attack tissues anywhere in the body…
    ​ A German pathologist performed autopsies on fifteen post-inoculation patients who died, and found that >90% had their organs attacked by their immune systems (autoimmunity)…
    ​ The conclusion (if supported by further data) is that essentially EVERY inoculant recipient suffers damage, with more damage after each shot. The damage could be cumulative, and the shots may be synergistic. Given the seriousness of the types of damage (autoimmune diseases, cancer, re-emergent dormant infections, clotting/strokes, cardiac damage, etc.), these effects will translate into lifespan reduction, which should be counted as deaths from the inoculations. So, in the USA, where ~200M people have been fully inoculated, the number of deaths will not be the 10,000 or so reported in VAERS, or 500,000-1,000,000 scaled-up deaths from VAERS, but could be closer to tens of millions (or more) when the inoculation effects play out!​ …​
    ​ ​Are we headed for the situation where the ~30% unvaxxed will be devoting their lives to operating whatever is left of the economic infrastructure and serving as caretakers for the vaxxed?
    https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/as-evidence-of-pathogenic-priming

    @Saul Goodman: I’m really wondering about the test results these days. They are not correlating well with symptoms and history in some cases.


    @PhoenixVoice
    : Yoakum, Texas is going nowhere while your kids approach majority. Victoria is a nice city of 60,000 people.

    @All-Y’all: El Gato Malo presents this accidental test result:
    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/quarantining-the-vaccinated/comments
    MMM is a puerto rico health insurer. (text below is from a guy who works there)

    they mandated covid vaccination for employees.

    employees sued and won exemptions.

    the company responded by segregating them and moving all the unvaxxed into a separate building.

    then covid broke out in the vaccinated building (but not the unvaxxed).

    #96392
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Approximately 2.84 million people in the United States lost their lives in 2018

    Do you keep track of all the people in your town-county who die each year?

    Do you obsessively read the obits’ in your local media rag and make notes?

    I thought so.

    Most People don’t even know their neighbors in suburban US.

    I know a friend who didn’t know his suburban neighbor died, twenty feet from his driveway until he saw hundreds of flies swarming Inside the windows of the house a week or so after the neighbor died.

    Literally right next to his house.

    Do you really think that US sheeple people would notice if the death rate doubled in their area?

    How about tripled?

    How about quintupled?

    No they would not, they are far too self absorbed.

    So if I was an evil genius, I’d kill them off by releasing small toxic randomly distributed batches of experimental mandatory ‘vaccine’.

    Kill twice as many this year as normal, and most people who got the vax and didn’t have anything go wrong would become ‘testimonials’ to how well it works, and then do the same next year, etc…

    The Sheeple will never notice.

    Up my game to triple next year.

    Same result, no one will notice.

    Amazing lack of situational awareness Americans have.

    #96393
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #96394
    those darned kids
    Participant

    no mention of “vaccines”..

    Hospital seeing younger stroke patients

    #96395
    John Day
    Participant

    @D.Benton Smith: Goldilocks homesteading, “just right”. Yoakum has 6000 people, a freight line, 3 hardware stores, a good grocery store, and Czech/German farming roots to the 1830s. It was never a slave town. Soil is good. Climate is tolerable if you can stand 90 degrees with 90% humidity some nights, and have good shade in the daytime.
    There is no ground water to tap. That’s a potential problem.
    People used to collect water in cisterns.
    Potatoes and sweet potatoes in the ground never get stolen by armies. Avoid having more than a little of what armies want to steal. Cive it to ’em. Be nice about it, I guess…

    @VP Gary: Man there are a lot of depopulation-mechanism waves washing over this little bay we are in!
    Get a second home somewhere and start fixing it up. (Yoakum is 2 hours from Houston, 2 hours from Austin and 2 hours from San Antonio, off the radar)
    Get a house that does not need much work if you can. It’s hard to get work done in rural areas. You meet thieves with meth and alcohol problems first…
    You can search regional agricultural maps of soil type, and look up the groundwater availability of local water supplies. Google maps satellite view has a lot of detail these days, and can be very instructive.
    You don’t want more than an acre of good soil at the edge of town, I’ll guess.
    That’s a lot of physical work, already.


    @Oroboros
    : Spiro Agnew; everybody knew he was mob, like Bibi Rebozo (sp?). Nixon was actually pretty sharp, and very well prepared to be president. He knew what happened to JFK and why, and was very cagey. Dick Nixon had a hard damned time, even though he was less than honest. I think he tried to do his best a lot of the time.

    #96396
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The courts serve two main purposes

    The first is to keep ‘the little people’ in line with Fear of jail and destitution.

    The the real reason for ‘the rule of law’ to to settle capital disputes among the .1%ers without resorting to violence, like mafia family thug capos often resort to.

    What ‘aristocrat mafia family thugs’ have done since the dawn of ‘civilization’.

    As Dylan said in ‘Sweetheart Like You’, “steal a little and ‘they’ throw you in jail, steal a lot and ‘they’ make you King.”

    Civilization = lock up the food supply, anyone who doesn’t do as you tell them gets no food.

    Simple plan.

    Repeated for millennia.

    The courts not stepping in to enforce common sense in the Plandemic Genocide is going to result in tremendous violence, first between competing Mafia’s and then the Sheeple finally snapping because ‘they’ have destroy the meaning of words, which ‘The Law’ kinda depends on to maintain some kind of order.

    As Dr D hilariously said,

    Why use words anymore, no one listens to them.

    #96397
    Oroboros
    Participant

    John D

    “they” still stepped on Spiro like a cockroach ;>)

    #96398
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Karmala Chameleon couldn’t shine Spiro’s wingtips.

    #96399
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Rather than spend $22,000 for a new battery pack for his used Tesla, a Finish man blew up his Tesla.
    Wonderful video; he did a right proper job of it…
    Scroll down to “read more” to see the vid…

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/video-tesla-owner-blows-up-car?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com&utm_campaign=dbr

    #96400
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #96401
    Oroboros
    Participant

    II loved the guy blowing up his Tesla, awesome prank.

    For once the owner blew up the Tesla instaed of the Tesla blowing up the owner

    hahahaha!

    #96402
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Techno Narcissists leading the Lemming Parade over the event horizon.

    I’m Pea Green with envy

    #96403
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Civilization has always selected for sociopaths.

    Now it has become an unstoppable positive feedback loop of corruption and sadism.

    You chucked the kids in the Volcano folks, there’s no turning back now.

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    #96404
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #96405
    John Day
    Participant

    @Oroboros: Spiro Agnew was no LBJ.
    Spiro was not the desired default setting, was he?
    We ended up with Jerry (Warren Commission) Ford and Nelson (shoot-the-bird) Rockefeller.

    #96406
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Tesla being blow up is a metaphor for the backlash to what James Kunstler refers to a the Mind Fuckery the poor public has had their collective noses rubbed in low these last two years.

    Artificial Intelligence: The Flesh Fair

    Enjoy

    #96407
    Oroboros
    Participant

    My father always said that Gerald Ford played to much football in college without a helmut :>)

    #96408
    WES
    Participant

    Oroboros:

    Yeah Nixon probably thought he made a good pick chosing Spiro. Too perfect! However he probably didn’t see his enemies gunning for his VP until it was too late.

    I too am waiting on kamala’s demise! Should be quite a sleezy soap show. Maybe her involvement with the noose hoax will be used to replace her. That was a pretty dumb move on her part. Then there is her “heels up” past.

    Sadly joe can’t see his own demise coming never- mind his perfect VP pick, kamala’s. For sure the DNC’s best script writers are busy writing the new narrative!

    The fact that the DNC let CNN question joe’s memory recently, tells us something slimy is being cooked up!

    #96409
    WES
    Participant

    Oroboros:

    If Jerry played too much football, then kamala played too much …….. ?

    #96410
    chooch
    Participant

    Finland on the verge of stopping vaccination certificates Tomorrow, Tuesday, the Finnish government will decide on new restrictions and the temporary abolition of vaccination certificates.

    https://www.dn.se/varlden/finland-pa-vag-att-stoppa-vaccinationsbevis/

    #96411
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Karma-La’s trolloping adventures with wee Willie Brown.

    Would make a fine spread for the MSMedia whores to dish on.

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