Debt Rattle January 6 2022

 

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  • #97182

    Eagerly awaiting for Raúl to post his take on Djokovic situation in Australia.

    Paraphrased: “My medical situation is a private matter.” That’s it really.

    Wondering what all these people will do when Omicron kills the pandemic in a few weeks. And which ones will be called to task.

    #97183
    those darned kids
    Participant

    help!!! this world is run by morons..

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-covid-19-how-to-treat-at-home-1.6304646

    • Take over-the-counter pain relief, such as ibuprofen or acetaminophen, if needed.
    • Stay hydrated, by drinking lots of water.
    • Have soothing foods like soup on hand.
    • Get plenty of rest.
    • Isolate from those in your household who are not ill.
    • If you have difficulty breathing, seek help immediately.

    i do like soup..

    #97184
    those darned kids
    Participant

    for those who dare:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-is-the-day-that-joe-biden-became-president

    In what may be the most powerful speech of his presidency, Joe Biden commemorated the one-year anniversary of the January 6 riot in the U.S. Capitol not just by condemning the violence and defending democracy, but by calling Donald Trump a loser.

    hahahaha, mr. biden is plagiarizing me! (see post #97174

    actually, it’s kinda embarrassing.

    #97185
    oxymoron
    Participant

    D Benton Smith. I loved your thoughts on Hierarchy and spirals. Nature, as much as we worship it’s beauty and its bossom is still a killing machine – Shakespeare covered the territory well. The spiritual is still the province of peace NOT the resolution of worldly problems.

    #97186
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Man that Greer article was a good read – much like the Zoom class one from the Brownstone Institute a minute back. Really identifies something I have seen in my world. Oh and I have been asked my credentials waaaay too many times lately. Like that is how you know if someone knows something! Institutions always give intelligence on a plate.

    #97187
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    When the End justifies the means CULT of robber barons convinced the gen pop to accept rule by “experts” as the social norm in America, We the People reaped the whirlwind, effectively ending representative .GOV in the U$ofA…

    Wars became a racket, banks became pseudo .GOV directorates, Natural Law was ousted & replaced with a fascist Admiralty/Equity legal system, sanctioned by Emergency Powers.

    The political party system became a duopoly, fighting for a seat at the elite’s table, utilizing various socialist/populist/progressive themes to capture the hearts & minds of the sheeple lost in mass formation psychosis…

    As the evil spread TPTB became a cultural mores unto itself, as the herd alternatively developed a LOVE/HATE relationship with Lifestyles of the Rich & Shameless, failing to recognize that the primary purpose of America had been transmogrified into a global looting operation, allied with other “friendly” regimes, licensed & empowered by the incipient “consent” of We the People.

    Many honest free thinkers were appalled by the perversion of American ideologies, becoming speed bumps as “The Narrative” became dominant in the subconsciousness of We the People, then later labeled as kooks, weirdos & conspiracy theorists…

    We are now 90 years into this new normal, with the herd indoctrinated from cradle-to-grave to accept any cognitive dissonance that arises, appeased with Bernays-esque consumerism, illusion of security for base instincts, cults of personality & FEAR.

    Those in America not enthralled with the status quo began splintering into ignorant cults in the 60s, lacking a grasp of the true nature of their dilemma, completing the destruction of the patriarchy that created/protected “Life, Liberty & The Pursuit of Happiness” from despot rule, replacing it with a namby pamby matriarchy that allows the villains to run the show, unimpeded ~ –We the People became a Nation of strangers…

    TPTB expanded into TBTF, raiding the national stores in broad daylight, buying out/controlling every & any move of .GOV that threatened their crimes against humanity.

    Now the insanity has reached as apex, where unaccountable entities within and/or funded by the District of Criminals have unleashed biological weapons upon We the People, brazenly stolen a national election, engaged in an actual coup d’etat upon humanity at large, in effect WWIII…

    Their endgame is not clear, but thus far it appears the peoples’ refusal/inability to rally into point of commonality in unison bodes extremely bad for the future.

    I hope We ascend to a simple solution, which is ours to claim, but I’m very doubtful given the fascist mass psychosis,

    Gary

    #97188
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Mayo Clinic to fire 700 employees for not obeying vaccine mandate

    https://thepostmillennial.com/mayo-clinic-to-fire-700-employees-for-not-obeying-vaccine-mandate

    #97189
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    I know that everyone is different, but often when a psychic shift was about to occur in my life, certain songs (or lyrics) would begin to play over and over in my head, imbued with a new sense of meaning or importance that was typically not yet clarified.

    For example, many years ago I went through a major life transition that was initiated by a medical emergency, followed by a divorce, and then my walking away from a fundamentalist Christian religion that was a huge part of my life. There was a period of about a year during my separation and divorce in which certain lyrics from R.E.M.’s ‘Losing My Religion’ echoed powerfully in my psyche whenever I heard it:

    I think I thought I saw you try
    But that was just a dream
    That was just a dream

    The above lyrics exemplified my marriage. At the time, I was waiting for my wife to “lift a finger” as it were to try and save the marriage. I felt I had been holding things together for years and now wanted to see the level of her own commitment. When coming home from work each day to the little apartment I had rented, my hope was to find her waiting there on the porch and asking, “Let’s talk”. It never happened, so I got my answer. Next:

    That’s me in the corner
    That’s me in the spotlight
    Losing my religion

    In hindsight the above 3 lyrics are easy. I didn’t know it at the time, but I had begun the process of reclaiming my own sovereignty, and was on my way out of a hierarchical, authoritarian system of control, never to look back. All that I had relied on for stability and meaning was left behind, and I was venturing into the unknown alone.

    Sorry for the long biographical intro… anyway, over the past week I’ve been hearing Fleetwood Mac’s ‘Dreams’ in my head:

    When the rain washes you clean, you’ll know
    You’ll know
    Now here I go again, I see the crystal vision
    I keep my visions to myself

    I’ve yet to relate this to anything personal, but lean more toward it representing a turning point in which a wiser world comes out of its “Mass Formation” hypnosis, as Dr. Mattias Desmet puts it, and proceeds to build a “new world order” of a sort entirely different than that envision by the Stalinist Klaus Schwab. The current “master plan” seems to be unraveling quickly, with greater numbers joining the ranks of the opposition daily. The Joe Rogan interview with Dr. Malone, as well as his suspension from Twitter seem pivotal.

    Then again, it could mean nothing.

    #97190
    WES
    Participant

    Regarding Fauci vs Walensky and ongoing supply chains disruptions/inflation.

    Walensky is a political appointee. Fauci is a bureaucratic appointee.

    The recent quarantine reduction from 10 days down to 5 days is likely the result of the white house realizing that the existing 10 day long quarantine was crippling the supply chain and dimming DNC’s 2022 election prospects. This move was likely carried out by Walensky per instructions.

    Fauci on the other hand represents completely different interests. Fauci was likely opposed to the reduction in quarantine time from 10 to 5 days because the chaos it created in supply chains/inflation has successfully driven Fauci’s narrow vested interests very nicely.

    So after the “politically” driven quarantine time reduction by Walensky, Fauci, to protect his interests, quickly responded by bringing up a new bureacratic requirement that people could only exit quarantine if they tested negative. Basically Fauci was trying to negate Walensky’s directive.

    In addition, Fauci appears to be trying to hijack the vaccine narrative by also trying to change the definition of fully vaxxed to that of triple vaxxxed.

    So far Walensky has held firm. Fauci may also be sorely missing his TV tag team mate Collins, who just retired.

    I find Rand Paul’s timing in attacking Fuuci, seems to have occurred days after Collins retired.

    Maybe the worst of Fauci is now behind us? Or do we just get a worst devil instead?

    #97191
    WES
    Participant

    Maxwell:

    For sure how you view the world, and your relationship with the world, has changed.
    Hopefully for you, for the better.

    #97192
    WES
    Participant

    Veracious Poet:

    It just seems to me that it was the robber barons that stumbled into WW1, the war everybody thought would be avoided, but wasn’t.

    #97193
    Oroboros
    Participant

    GERMANY
    Hundreds of Sheep formed into a giant syringe promotes vaccine push in Germany

    This is rich.

    A giant syringe (cringe) made up of sheep to help promote the KillShot in Deutschland

    Ahh, like a little Nuremberg rally

    Sheeple über alles!

    Achtung!

    A friend and I laughed ourselves stupid over this, my friend said all that was missing was to tie a little rope around every sheep’s front leg and pull them in unison to get a group Sieg heil! salute.

    Barking Sheep Dog Howling at the Moon Mad.

    #97194
    Oroboros
    Participant

    They got the Sheep to line up by spreading food on the ground in the shape of a giant Clotshot Syringe

    Sheeple will follow the same paradigm but you just use lottery tickets and fast food burgers.

    #97195
    those darned kids
    Participant

    On the anniversary of Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a reminder that watching footage may be traumatizing

    “Those images were incredibly violent … and so repeated exposure to them, even if you’re not in immediate threat but can simply empathize with others who were, causes you to maintain a state of hyper-vigilance — that high level of arousal you maintain by exposing yourself to it,”

    good grief! the average american watches “die hard eleven, blood squirt” for breakfast, and then plays “call of duty – operation grind ’em up” to relax after work. how on earth would a crowd of grandmas traumatize them!??

    #97196
    those darned kids
    Participant

    crap! you beeeeeat me to it oroboros! i just found the same thing. oh, the irony¡¡¡¡¡

    #97197
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    @WES

    “For sure how you view the world, and your relationship with the world, has changed.
    Hopefully for you, for the better.”

    Dramatically and for the better! Some people must be dragged from their slumber kicking and screaming… that was me. All I ever wanted was the traditional family and picket fence, but in the end got so much more.

    #97198
    those darned kids
    Participant

    don’t underestimate the sheep!

    #97199
    WES
    Participant

    J6, stationing national guards, and building walls, in DC was just the Uniparty’s and 4th branch’s response to their illegally take over of the US government.

    Celebrating the first anniversary (of the hunger games), serves to remind the sheep, who is really in charge.

    #97200
    those darned kids
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    #97201
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #97202
    chooch
    Participant

    Protection afforded by prior infection (without vaccination) against SARS-CoV-2 reinfection with the Omicron variant.

    Alpha 90%
    Beta 85%
    Delta 92%
    Omicron 56%

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.05.22268782v1

    So I have a greater chance of an omicron infection if I had omicron? Maybe I’m reading this wrong.

    #97203
    WES
    Participant

    TDK:

    Your funny sheep video reminds me of the fun timesI had driving in Morroco on the main highway between Marrakech and Casablanca!

    While the Sahara Desert in that area is mostly flat there were areas where the terrain took a slight dip. It was there that the local sheep shepards would bunch up their sheep herds beside the highway, out of sight, and wait for unsuspecting folks like me!

    As soon as I was at the just right spot, doing 100 km/hr, they would suddenly herd their sheep onto the highway hoping I would nicely plow into their herd and then demand a king’s ransom for killing the most prized sheep in all of Morroco!

    .Luckily for me, they were always sadly disappointed!

    This also where I would often see an old man riding his donkey, look up and say praise to Allah, before crossing the highway! It became clear to me, very quickly, that the donkey with his head down, was doing all of the driving! Musk wasn’t the first to invent self-driving vehicles!

    #97204
    Bill7
    Participant

    I’m sad to see what’s being done now to Novak Djokovic, and Aaron Rogers, and others. My impression is that the ruling-class message is only incidentally for them, but primarily for us: “resistance is futile”.

    F•ck ’em.

    #97205
    Bill7
    Participant

    It sure looks like our friendly Ruling Class are amping up maximum conflict on the 90% now.
    Will they remain unscathed?

    #97206
    Bill7
    Participant

    JM Greer says their dystopian project (on us) is way too complex and energy intensive, and will fail.
    In the long run I think he’s right; in the short and middling run I’m not so sure.

    Can you say “intentional erasure of cultural memory” ? “Wokeness” was just their firing shot..

    #97207
    Bill7
    Participant

    My sense is that quite a few who have accepted the clot-shot have an inkling of what’s going on now, but choose to direct
    their anger at the unvaxxed, because the alternative is too hard to deal with: something like “I had to get the clot-shot, so you
    do, too!”

    Nope.

    #97208
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Y’all have a bunch of interesting comments today.

    D Benton’s earlier [excellent] comment, followed on by oxy’s follow-up comment:

    Nature, as much as we worship it’s beauty and its bossom is still a killing machine.”

    @Oxy: correct. Nature is, indeed, heartless (from man’s perspective – I don’t think it’s a killing machine – it’s a life cycle). However, man does not, indeed, matter much in the greater scheme of things. Man on earth? Man not on earth? Why would nature even care. Man better think about that.

    @D Benton: very well written comment. I’d argue that humans don’t evolve upward, but that’s a quibble. We all have our own perspectives. 😉

    @Maxwell: “Fleetwood Mac’s ‘Dreams”. Listening to it now. You might have a good point with this one. 🙂


    @bill7
    : “JM Greer says their dystopian project (on us) is way too complex and energy intensive, and will fail.”

    I’m in the camp it’ll fail sooner, rather than later. Have been having this debate since pre-covid. What is that called? anno dommi something something something??? … before the new religion of covid?

    History should be interesting. Wonder who’s going to write it.

    #97209
    Bill7
    Participant

    > @bill7: “JM Greer says their dystopian project (on us) is way too complex and energy intensive, and will fail.”
    I’m in the camp it’ll fail sooner, rather than later. <

    Which will fail first: their well-coordinated dystopian project, or our cultural memory that they’re been carefully destroying for the last forty-or-so years, and probably longer (see McGowan on the Sixties)?

    #97210
    WES
    Participant

    Bill7:

    My view of those who have gotten the clot-shot, is that they have an inherently emotional vested interest in defending their decision, even when facts and reality later prove them wrong. They will still refuse to admit they were wrong.

    #97211
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    chooch: “Protection afforded by prior infection (without vaccination) against SARS-CoV-2 reinfection with the Omicron variant… So I have a greater chance of an omicron infection if I had omicron? Maybe I’m reading this wrong.”

    It’s not “reinfection with the Omicron variant,” it’s reinfection with Omicron and other variants.

    We estimated effectiveness of prior infection in preventing reinfection (PES) with Omicron and other SARS-CoV-2 variants in Qatar…

    None progressed to critical or fatal COVID-19…

    Prior-infection protection against hospitalization or death at reinfection appears robust, regardless of variant.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.05.22268782v1

    #97212
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    A bit more from an Antipodean regarding Djokovic in his “Land of Captivity.”

    This issue is revealing more than a little incompetence or wilful ignorance or just plain short-sightedness on the part of the Australian Border Farce and/or the federal government. For instance, it should have been made perfectly clear on the visa application form what the requirements for issuance are. No good letting him arrive and then finding fault.

    Or if the requirements were not made clear ahead of time, then that reveals bureaucratic ineptitude at least and possibly poorly-drafted legislation or legislation in need of amendment. Amendments are commonly made but they tend to be enacted in batches, so it is possible that a defect in the relevant Act is ready for amendment but it hasn’t happened yet.

    Agencies commonly communicate with one another about matters like this to arrive at a decision, so if one agency was happy with him and another wasn’t, then this should have been made obvious in good time.

    The Feds as usual are ducking and weaving, blaming everybody but themselves.

    Djokovic is doing rather well to have got the Federal Court (second-highest in the land) to examine the matter so soon. Standards exist, and judges like standards. I do hope that the Feds are overruled. The bureaucrats have said that he is free to leave any time he likes. Of course; if he did that then they wouldn’t be drawn into a court case. I rather hope that he stays put.

    For Djokovic and others, this affair is providing a wonderful amount of publicity. It’s shining a light in a murky area.

    #97213
    WES
    Participant

    Doc Robinson:

    When you mentioned Qatar, I was hoping we might get an update to their 7 month vaccine effectiveness study.

    But then I saw Yale./Bloomberg.

    #97214
    Bill7
    Participant

    WES said:

    “My view of those who have gotten the clot-shot, is that they have an inherently emotional vested interest in defending their decision, even when facts and reality later prove them wrong. They will still refuse to admit they were wrong.”

    I think you have that right. Suddenly right right to be *left alone* has gone by the wayside.. but at Paul Kingsnorth has perceptively said, the organized Left was probably always an authoritarian movement (perhaps w/ a little help from the usual sources).

    #97215
    WES
    Participant

    ezlxa 1949:

    If the Fed’s kick him out, imagine what a major blow that will be for Australia, on the tennis circuit racket!

    #97216
    Bill7
    Participant

    I don’t think this kind of publicity is going to benefit Novak Djokovic, who’s alway been a bit of a black sheep/unpopular as a World #1. Just the opposite, I think- he’s the perfect Bad Guy for the Ruling Class. I’ve not been a particular fan of him or his kind of tennis, but I think this stand he’s taken is really admirable. Bravo, Novak Djokovic.

    #97217
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    It just seems to me that it was the robber barons that stumbled into WW1, the war everybody thought would be avoided, but wasn’t.

    You honestly think that Rockefeller, Carnegie, JP Morgan, Vanderbilt & their ilk were “stumbling” about?

    The propaganda pumped by the brits crossed the pond, with a bit of effort, infected the country from the top down, soon war drums were beating & every red blooded “American” boy wanted to go hunt some Huns…

    By the time the Lusitania sank there was already much rejoicing & money made, with new industrial giants joining “The Club”, but after the sinking the grift was immense giving rise to the .MIL Industrial Complex ~ Pumping out war machines, ammo & supplies in such excess that after Versailles there should have been Congressional investigations. There weren’t 😐

    Seems that by the 20s most in America worshiped the robber barons, who were no longer thought of as such, the rejuvenation was quite a PR stunt, the silent coup to install FED & control monetary policy/banking quite a triumph, among many other victories that greatly increased their wealth & power…

    The American dream became a carrot on a stick used to great effect, the rise of radios & film another vehicle to deliver “The Narrative”.

    Lincoln made us all slaves to achieve abolition, FDR tyrannically once again suspended Federalism, making us All property of the U$ .GOV, except of course for the elite families he truly represented…

    Whereas We the People had value once upon a time, that has changed & now we’re seeing how absolute power can be used, with very little restraint, to introduce fugitivity to any whom refuse to conform (Assange was the carnary) & engage in wanton slaughter without remorse.

    #97218
    Kimo
    Participant

    Lincoln made us all slaves to achieve abolition

    Now that’s quotable!

    #97219
    chooch
    Participant

    “So as you try and unpack and understand all the irrational behavior so many otherwise intelligent people appear to be exhibiting regarding the coronavirus vaccines, just remember: They are religious zealots who are protecting their savior. Nothing else matters.” (Forrest Maready)
    Aus

    Vaccinated transmit virus to vaccinated AND unvaccinated; it is not a pandemic of vaccinated but a pandemic of both, yet its over, stop it! COVID is done, OMICRON now has shown this; a natural vaccine.

    https://palexander.substack.com/p/vaccinated-versus-unvaccinatedis

    #97220
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    Just playing devil’s advocate, Chooch, but one might look at that chart and say “See what happened when they stopped the lockdowns?”

    #97221
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    “Kimo wrote, “Ian Ricksecker was an interesting read, I kept thinking, if the virus does all of this, why would I want to inject it’s spike protein?”

    I had exactly the same thought, followed the this:

    I can get the shot three times, and then get Covid, meaning that I get four cumulative exposures to massive amounts of spike protein. Or I can wait until I get Covid, and only have one exposure. All things being equal, I choose one exposure rather than four.

    Ah, but all things are not equal, our robot friend deflationista will say: Getting the shot reduces the risk of a serious case. Which may be true, but overlooks there are other proven measures one can also take to reduce the risk of a serious case. I can see how the over 65 and serious co-morbidities crowd might see the risk calculus and very rationally say “I’ll take the three shots.” But I can also see the younger, healthier, Vitamin D supplementing, exercising, ivermectin-taking, fluvoaxamine in the medicine cabinet crowd just as rationally saying “I only want exposure to the spike protein once, not four times.”

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