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    Pablo Picasso Femme aux bras leves- Tête de Dora Maar- 1936   • Does Lithuania Want To Start A War With Russia? (Bandow) • EU to Allow Russia to
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 2 2022]

    #110786
    Germ
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    “NEW YORK CITY MAYOR SAYS HE WILL MANDATE COVID VACCINES FOR CHILDREN THIS FALL”

    New York City Mayor Says He Will Mandate COVID Vaccines for Children This Fall

    #110787
    Germ
    Participant

    “What every sceptical parent needs to know about vaccinating their children against Covid”

    “The overwhelming majority of schoolchildren have already been exposed to the virus, one way or another. A whopping 99 per cent of them have antibodies to the virus, showing their immune system is prepped, and that includes the 34 per cent not vaccinated.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/vaccinating-children-against-covid-pointless/

    Comment section worth reading

    🤡😂☠️😂🤡

    #110788
    Germ
    Participant

    Gov Inslee (WA) issues directive making COVID vaccines a *permanent* condition of employment for state workers in executive and small cabinet agencies. That includes boosters, present AND future!.

    https://www.governor.wa.gov/sites/default/files/directive/22-13%20-%20State%20employment%20COVID%20vaccine%20requirement%20%28tmp%29.pdf

    #110789
    Germ
    Participant

    Shut him up!

    “Quebec professor’s suspension for criticism of COVID vaccines violates academic freedom, union argues”

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/union-says-quebec-profs-suspension-for-anti-vax-comments-violates-academic-freedom

    🤡☠️☠️☠️🤡

    #110790
    Germ
    Participant

    https://mobile.twitter.com/cqmerqn/status/1531204450001600512

    🤡☠️☠️🤡

    It IS over for the unvaxxed!! LOL

    #110791
    Germ
    Participant

    Geert, Malone et al. have been right all along.
    This clueless moron is just now figuring it out.
    Good god – we are so screwed.

    “Where’s the herd immunity? Our research shows why Covid is still wreaking havoc”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/01/herd-immunity-covid-virus-vaccine

    It will never end.
    Especially for the vaxxed. 🤡☠️☠️☠️🤡

    #110792
    Germ
    Participant
    #110793
    Germ
    Participant
    #110794
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Germ
    We crossed the Rubicon long ago; there is no going back…
    Forward into the darkness…the unknown…if we’re of proper mind and not cowed…
    We’ll survive this…but this will truly try our souls…
    There is no magic for this…the magic come later, after the tribulations…
    Keep on keeping on…the way will be found…

    #110795
    Dr. D
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    So did I get this right, that Europe is not just setting the price of Russian oil but reserves the right to sink ships carrying that mis-priced oil to India and China?

    I guess we’ll see who’s really Crazy Ivan if they think that’ll go over with literally anyone, even Yanks and Brits.

    “Biden Admin Halts 2nd Largest US LNG Plant from Restarting”

    Or if they’ll tolerate that either.

    “AOC Accuses Supreme Court of a “Coup” and Calls for It to Be “Done Away With”

    Great! We will stop obeying the court. …And what happens next? “We all do whatever is good in our own eyes.” AOC and all of Congress refuse to pass laws, which is how we got here. 50 years too soon to do your job? It’s always somebody else’s fault.

    “”Worst Start Since 1788″: A Closer Look at the Catastrophic First Half Performance

    “if you bought stocks in H1, you lost; if bonds, you lost; if commodities, you were doing great until recently; if crypto you lost; if the US dollar, you were fine” but lost purchasing power to inflation.”

    Um, I don’t think so. 100% of things cannot go down. Everything is “priced” in relation to something else. They’re complaining about commodities; if the dollar is going “down” they don’t mean per Euro, they mean per bacon. So bacon is going up. If commodities are no longer fine, what you have is systemic instability where prices are gyrating willy-nilly. So only speculators and traders make money. You can’t sell actual stocks and buy actual freezer-bacon that fast. To Which I say “Yes”, that’s what hyperinflation is and why everyone goes broke by it. Except like 20 stock-jobbers. Who then flee for their lives with the mob behind them and lose everything too.

    If stocks, bonds, crypto all “fell” then Cash dollars rose in relation. QED. Commodities were rising but we appear to have caused Powell’s “Recession” which will be GFC 2.0. So if you are in commodities get out for a bit, or if you were just in cash bank account buy that bacon for your freezer shortly before it goes up again and while it’s still available. And buy Crypto, we’re almost there. $400 Eth dead bottom, $12,000 BTC. No hurry though: it won’t recover overnight and you can phase into it. Probably the US$ will continue to RISE as all debts are priced in $$ and people will very shortly be trying not to go bankrupt seeking dollars at all costs before repudiating them. Which puts an end to our system, Thank God.

    Please, can we go back to paying people to do work now? And not clicking buttons trading all day? Corrupt money = corrupt incentives. Incentive not to work, and not to be productive and useful.

    “White House Tells Americans: ‘Suck It Up’ for the Sake of the “Liberal World Order”

    No, literally. They said “Liberal World Order.” And you should die for the cause. Those extra 1,000sq ft for Al Gore’s mansion. This is Socialism: some people have to mop floors and some people have to jet to chalets and be Presidents. Don’t hold it against them that they’re rich, beautiful and really, really stupid and pass their no-work jobs to their worthless children. We all have our crosses to bear.

    What does that mean for everybody not in the White House? “Worst Stock Performance in 50 Years”
    “One Of The Worst Downturns In Recent History”

    You ain’t seen nothin yet.

    So Lithuania, with an army of just 8,850 active-duty personnel and 5,650 reservists, is now enforcing a blockade of sorts against Russia”

    Yes, but not really: Lithuania was clear they were taking orders and passing the buck exclusively to the EU. That doesn’t get them off the hook, but it invalidates his premise that it’s Lithuania’s fault, not Joe and NATO’s.

    Lithuanian officials have a sense of preemptive martyrdom.”

    Yes, it’s a strange part of the world. Like Korea does too. They keep being marched on, but at the same time then they need to do something different and break the cycle. Poland is both constantly belligerent but then makes Europe’s worst tactical decisions against foes they cannot possibly withstand. For centuries. Have you thought about encircling with a maginot line and going neutral while arming every citizen like Switzerland? At least that would be different.

    “Its key message will be that Moscow will be allowed to use the transit route for all goods,”

    “Russia will be permitted”...access to the treaty everyone signed. But not really. We want to be sure to be in violation of that treaty more or less 100% of the time.

    “rationed hot water and fuel consumption including the amount of time that Herr Habeck himself spends in the shower”.

    I’m quite sure this is false and he consumes 10x any normal German citizen. With his motorcade, but in the shower and 3,000 mile ceasar salads 3x a day too. I for one am going to follow his example. I from here forward will only use the exact amount of carbon Al Gore, Herr Habeck, and AOC use. No doubt that will be a 10x increase in my use of carbon.

    “Now freedom is represented by Z.”

    Great. Now I have put up with stupid propaganda from both sides. Like one wasn’t expensive and pointless enough?

    “instead of the peaceful country of Ukraine, its authorities would make it miserable”

    Are you kidding? Ukraine was one of the most violent and corrupt nations in Europe, if not the world. Its former misery was legendary for all the same reasons.

    “The war in Ukraine is the culmination of a 30-year project of the American neoconservative movement. “

    You know, I like to take issue with everything, but this is quite probably true. Since they – and we – couldn’t learn their lesson in Panama, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, it now comes to this.

    “The neocon track record is one of unmitigated disaster,”

    So if they fail, And if the failures are expensive, WHY are they so seamlessly promoted and supported? Without the slightest hesitation, embarrassment, or variation? Even aside from the old boys club, that is quite a reach. Surely they must be accomplishing something for someone even larger, above them, or this would not be possible. So Who? And Why? What is that group/person’s goals? Why are their goals so much different from ours? And if they are promoted 100% of the time against the wishes of the entire electorate, Right and Left, do we have a representative democracy at all?

    “the White House issuing executive orders to get around a recalcitrant Congress.”

    Transparently against the Constitution and structure of government, there is no such thing as Executive Orders. By issuing them, the President is admitting he is playing favorites with the laws he is enforcing for Congress. That’s an impeachable offense: he is required by law to enforce ALL the laws, and also NEVER to enforce laws they have NOT passed. But all government works lockstep against all people, all the time. That includes the courts. THEY are the club, anyone not-government is NOT in the club. Police are a good example of this attitude. Police drive drunk and with no traffic rules. Who would arrest them? And the solution is…More Government? Or maybe less, such that their inevitable bad behavior can be minimized because they’re asked to do so little. They localize the regulation and enforcement to the lowest, smallest possible level. We, the Society, then regulate ourselves in their stead.

    “The ruling also tends to foil the World Economic Forum’s effort to re-set Western Civ as a transhuman technocratic “green” nirvana.”

    More and more people are commenting on how these dottering centenarian dinosaurs are simply trying to enact Disney’s “World of Tomorrowland” they saw once in 1964. With flying cars, sterile houses, robot delivery. Kissinger was a child of the 30s. Klausinator was 1960? So their shrill and increasing desperate whine is that they are going to have their erector-set Lionel train Red Ryder BB gun future, IF THEY HAVE TO KILL EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET. I mean, we’re all over 70, we’re running out of time here, and it’s ALL YOUR FAULT. Always the fault of the poor and powerless.

    As Mr. K says, We are not going to have a electric technocratic future at all. We’re going medieval, or most probably a lot less. But certainly local and most probably “conservative”, in the sense that we “conserve” and no longer have the energy and free time to muck about with things that aren’t already proven to work. We’re going to do a lot of things in the world by hand.

    “Ukraine, which is so not going well that it is hard to find a comparable strategic fiasco in history.”

    True. Not quite “Napoleon 1812” fiasco yet (wait til NATO and the Western economy collapse), but certainly “Land War in Asia” fiasco. And Russia hasn’t started yet. They’re still kidding around doing demos and army exercises.

    Remember all those humming factories we won the Second World War with? They don’t exist anymore.”

    As I keep saying, these 100 year old dinosaurs don’t realize this. And they think Russia is the Soviet Union. Every Day. Irony being, if Russia was the USSR, they would be Socialist, and an ally to our own Soviet Socialism here. AOC being an example, literal card-carrying Socialist member. What is it that these guys have to die in order to change their minds? In order that we can progress? …Into the 1970s, since the crop of thinkers behind them is nearly as old?

    Biden Admin Delays Decision on Expanded Offshore Drilling (JTN)”

    A delay is simply a no. For now. And how is the President in charge of this? Wouldn’t this require Congress and all bodies? But so long as we get green oil from happy, Democratic states like Saudi Arabia, and trample all human rights, beat gays, kill reporters, start endless wars, bomb civilians, and support dictatorial Kingships, AND lose billions of money, Joe is happy. Do NOT pump our own oil and #Profit. That would be REALLY bad, unlike now.

    “Why do I get the feeling Cassidy was/is a plant?”

    Yup. And like always they walked right into it. Say something, anything bad about Trump: he’s a lizard person from Mars, and they will 100% believe you without looking and put you on the stand. Downside being, 1/3rd of the country will ALSO believe them without looking. Dore said all his Liberal friends were in awe and ecstasy: “Did you hear??? They got him!!!” …Caught him…arguing with his limo driver? This is…imprisonable? Or impeachable for a guy not in office? Yeah, I guess you won then. WTF? What is even happening?

    “More than one-in-four U.S. voters are so alienated from their government that they believe it may “soon be necessary to take up arms” against it”

    Those are the Republicans. 80% of Democrats believe the opposite, that “Government should take up arms against the people.” shoot and imprison them all for wearing red hats. Or maybe it’s 100%, since it’s all I hear on the news all day. See, the violence is the same, it’s just the method of delivery that’s different. Naturally this is the media, so they have reported only one side. It’s “objective” to report only one side: I have promoted my “Objectives”.

    Dore was discussing Pelosi’s fundraising. IF ONLY you had voted Democrat, they would have encoded Roe into law. Wait: what? DEMOCRATS RUN GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. They HAVE the House, Senate, and President, so just pass it. We DID vote you in. Many times. And YOU lost 2-3 Supreme Court seats for us. So what is my donation for again? So you can NOT pass it for the 51st time in a row? GTFO, you’re ridiculous.

    #110796
    EoinW
    Participant

    Re Jim Kunstler article: I appreciate his positive thinking, however where is the fine line between being optimistic or naive?

    All I keep hearing about is how salvation comes in November. Wow! I might even be allowed to drive across the border into the USA again! Does this mean the Democrats/WEF/Soros will allow a free and fair vote after fixing the 2020 election?

    I have seen nothing to indicate the Dems will ever give up power peacefully. They own the media so they determine what is reality. July to November is plenty of time to label every GOP candidate a domestic terrorist. We’re already into one party state territory.

    We’re seeing the end of law and order in every western country. Anarchy from the top. Why do people continue to believe we’ll magically go back to 1976 normal?

    I think we’re all more likely to be dead from Monkeypox by November than we’ll see a GOP landslide. Nevertheless this is unknown territory, the Age of Surprises. Putting my money under the mattress and telling my Las Vegas bookie to take a long holiday.

    #110797
    Germ
    Participant

    This is an excellent discussion. Something is very, very wrong.

    ☠️☠️☠️

    #110798
    zerosum
    Participant

    “Where’s the herd immunity?”

    1. With the poor and destitute.
    2. schoolchildren. A whopping 99 per cent of them have antibodies to the virus.
    3. Not with the vaccinated for C19 because its Omicron and variants going around
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    Do we have a representative democracy at all?

    1. The question is too vague. It need to specify time, where, and what and for who.
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    Border control
    Control the exodus/departure of tax paying citizens by controlling the number of flights wanting to leave the country.
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    #110799
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Who’s your Daddy?

    Planning for the Future

    Lithuania is on the left with red punk hair

    Eurotardistan is on the right with the beer belly

    .

    #110800
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #110801
    zerosum
    Participant

    Causes for the food crises/shortage
    1. Not enough food
    2. Not enough rubles
    3. disruption of supply system
    4. inflation

    #110802
    Oroboros
    Participant

    For Pablo Picasso

    David Bowie covering Jonathan Richman

    #110803
    Armenio Pereira
    Participant

    If you try to elevate people’s virtues, be aware that you will also elevate people’s vices.
    Why is this fraught with danger?
    Because whilst virtues are open source/public, vices are proprietary/private – you can always estimate what virtues’ may bring, but you will never know what vices’ can hide.

    65 (excerpt)
    Taoist rulers of old did not enlighten people but left them dull.
    People are difficult to govern because they are very clever. Therefore, ruling through cleverness leads to rebellion. Not leading through cleverness brings good fortune.
    Know these two things and understand the enduring pattern. […]

    Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu (Stephen Addiss & Stanley Lombardo – English version, 1993)

    #110804
    Armenio Pereira
    Participant

    The more you grow up, the more you realize the world is what the world needs to be.

    #110805
    Oroboros
    Participant

    A nice wrapup from The New Atlas provides geopolitical analysis by Brian Berletic (aka Tony Cartalucci) with a focus on Eurasia, based in Bangkok, Thailand.

    The Ukronazis are the Mini-Me liar franchise peddled from the Empire of Lies.

    They take lying to new heights.

    Replacing Ukraine’s Dwindling Air Defenses & Kiev’s “Managed Retrogrades” in Donbass

    “Managed Retrogrades” are the new re-branded Massive Defeat of yesteryear.

    #110806
    Noirette
    Participant

    Imran Khan: 31 mins. July 1, 2022.

    From DW note the interviewer is imitating the BBC, denigrating and putting down the interlocutor, the Media is ‘in charge’…

    https://www.dw.com/en/imran-khan-pakistans-future-is-tied-up-with-russia/av-62333847

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    Dramatic decline in births in Germany, by Igor Chudov.

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/dramatic-decrease-in-births-in-germany

    Switzerland is treated as well, lower down. I have checked the CH nos (in the sense of the the trend. The raw data is available for download) and it is correct or roughly so.

    However, there is so much going on with COV 19 affecting the stats, it is hard to tease out a solid take and it is easy to get confused.

    For ex. the birthrate CH in 2019 was 10, in 2020 it was 9.9 (same..)

    in 2021 it was 10.3 – a huge increase!

    A result of cozying up in lockdown, due to job loss, reduction; activity loss; social meet loss; … and important, many ppl, Swiss or foreignors moving back to CH because of the pandemic, all will always be better here it is felt (less strictures, hysteria..) So the population increased…many rich ppl moved here, and many Swissies abroad came back..and then.. the pop and the birth rate jumped up, what about about the birth rate in 2022?

    Once the nos. are in, it will be difficult to relate the nos. to VAXES.

    In any case, all over W rising deaths will be lodged as due to, Covid, Long Covid, new variants that cause new deathly Covid, new infections (Monkeypox, etc.) climate change (hot weather messes up immune systems, say!) resurgence of infectious diseases (why never explained), SADS (new sudden death syndrome a great mystery so SAD), stress (even children are stressed), and so on.

    #110808
    John Day
    Participant

    @Germ: Thank youfor the good articles. I read the jumbled Telegraph article about “vaccinating ” children, which wasvery poorly written, to the point of being readily misunderstood.
    The comments, which you suggeted reading, were far clearer and directly to the point.

    I am very sorry to say this, but I keep seeing this as a vast selection-event, which will reduce the ranks of non-critical thinkers.
    This kind of recurrent thought in myself worries me, because I am picking a group to sacrifice, a group without myself.
    My mind wants to write-off the credulous as a loss. This is not healthy.
    This is a manifestation of the mindset that I think is doing this. I am self-analyzing on this forum.

    #110809
    Armenio Pereira
    Participant

    Human population reduction: needed, irrelevant or psychopathic endeavor?

    Everything is required, until it ceases to be.

    #110810
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #110811
    citizenx
    Participant

    Breaking News- Elmo held against own will. Leaked video shows Elmo resisting.

    Does Elmo have choice to not ?

    Latest revelation on Biden falling up and falling down. Covidian Cult acknowledges foul play at hand with ‘Pencil of Doom’ scenario.

    #110812

    More restrictive societies may be more creative because it takes creativity to get around the restrictions. Rule-breakers rule.

    #110813
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Perhaps it is simply recognition of the reality the injected face. They may achieve death faster but we are all headed there.

    We all have present choices and actions that impact our destiny/existence.

    It is not healthy to excessively impair ones mind with the reality.

    Compartmentalize is the approach I am taking and still I feel my performance degraded by thinking about the present situation.

    #110814

    Bowie/Picasso: I was wondering the other day what would be the best band ever. Never one answer of course. Beatles 61/62 played 10 hour shows in Hamburg. They could play anything. And then stopped and played their own stuff. But they couldn’t because it was pre-PA systems and they couldn’t hear each other.

    E Street band: play ‘em a song once and they will play it. Stones: I like them because of Keith. There’s a billion people who play guitar, and you still can tell if it’s him. But yeah, Bowie’s bands, when he had Carlos Alomar, and the insane Earl Slick on top of that, and then added the completely crazy Robert Fripp. That would be my vote.

    #110815
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    Brett Weinstein video linked above. Would anyone care to comment on the video? I’m halfway through. The general thrust seems to be the pathology of modern civilization. I’m a dumb farmer, I’d rather not be stupid about the issues. I scored the ‘crud’ last week after 2.5 years. The issues were a very sore throat, sinus pressure and joint pain (10 on the pain dial). One dose of Ivermectin at the medium dose dropped the fever 2 degrees F in 12 hours. Thanks to all the TAE commenters. High regards to IRM and John Day on the Vitamin D3 thing.

    #110816
    Germ
    Participant

    They are insane. These failed vaccines are driving VAIDS and new variants.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/02/uk-scientists-warn-of-urgent-need-for-action-on-vaccines-to-head-off-autumn-covid-wave

    it’s going to be a brutal winter for the death-vaxxed and boosted. 🤡☠️☠️☠️🤡

    #110817

    alligator- there was a lot of patting themselves on the back for seeing through the curtain. They felt the awakened community- made up of rogues such as themselves- needed to quickly find a way to work together to find a mythos that would awaken others because this is a death-star event.
    Nawaz really wants you to catch his video on midazolam. I intend to check it out.
    The link goes to David Icke’s site. I expect there are other places to find it.

    #110818
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #110819
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * New York, New York
    – Start spreading the news, You’ve gotta get vaxxed
    If you’re a student in, New York, New York
    Although you’re still so young, you’re system gets hacked
    And maybe wrecks that heart of yours, New York, New York
    We’re pretty sure your mom and dad won’t make a peep
    Because if they complain, they’re out on the heap
    Although this disease, will not make you ill
    You’ve got to risk your life for it, in old New York
    If we can force them there, we’ll force them everywhere
    It’s up to you, New York, New York

    #110820
    Redneck
    Participant

    “All I keep hearing about is how salvation comes in November. Wow! I might even be allowed to drive across the border into the USA again! Does this mean the Democrats/WEF/Soros will allow a free and fair vote after fixing the 2020 election?

    I have seen nothing to indicate the Dems will ever give up power peacefully. They own the media so they determine what is reality. July to November is plenty of time to label every GOP candidate a domestic terrorist. We’re already into one party state territory.”

    EoiW I concur. At this point in time ANYTHING is possible , a coup of some kind is not out of the question.
    Every body is looking for a political resolution to what is a cultural problem.You can’t legislate away delusions especially when the entire MSM culture is propagating and supporting them.
    How do you legislate away the idea that men get pregnant and lactate?

    #110821
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Dr D said

    So if they fail, And if the failures are expensive, WHY are they so seamlessly promoted and supported? Without the slightest hesitation, embarrassment, or variation? Even aside from the old boys club, that is quite a reach. Surely they must be accomplishing something for someone even larger, above them, or this would not be possible. So Who? And Why? What is that group/person’s goals? Why are their goals so much different from ours? And if they are promoted 100% of the time against the wishes of the entire electorate, Right and Left, do we have a representative democracy at all?

    I am sure you are suggesting this, so I will go ahead and say it. They represent the security interests of the state of Israel. All being Jewish, all being people who support the crushing of any nation that does not completely obey the USA, they are able to ensure that if anyone threatens Israel, they are able to apply their doctrine and make that the USA’s problem. It is all about using the USA to provide security for Israel, which is why their interests do not align with the average person in the USA, but AIPAC ensures they are maintained in influential positions. They dress it up in some sort of academic philosophy, but that is just veneer, their objectives are not to help the USA.

    #110822
    Michael Reid
    Participant


    It is simply the total disintegration of Western society

    The disintegration of Western society – visible to the naked eye

    The disintegration of Western society – visible to the naked eye

    #110823
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Having lived in many countries, from 3rd world central Africa to 2nd world China, the one thing I notice is that the quality of food is totaly reflected in the health of different generations of the population. In China the generations are now taller and fatter, the visible nutritional disabilities such as distorted spines and other skeletal distortions are noticeably fewer than they used to be.

    In my experience, not being a medical person, I would put the majority of the health of a population down to the quality of the food and way less than 5% down to the quality of healthcare.

    If the oligarchs plan on starving us all, or simply reducing the nutrition we are used to, will such a sudden change impact us adults or will it only impact the next generation? Will westerners become the short people of the world? Will westerners be the ones with insufficient calcium in their bones? Will eating 5-day old bug protein provide the same levels of nutrition as a two-year old beef steak? Given the plethora of childhood issues these days – your child is not being properly parented unless it has some medical syndrome or set of allergies – medicine has obviously not made us stronger, so what is to become of us if we apply medicine and low nutrition?

    #110824
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Redneck:
    “ How do you legislate away the idea that men get pregnant and lactate?”

    Well, men cannot become pregnant, but they *can* lactate. Occasionally, baby males are born with a tiny bit of milk in their mammary glands, a response to the mother’s hormones stimulating her mammary glands in preparation for birth. There is a drug that can kick-start lactation in both sexes – I don’t remember the name, read about it around 15 years ago.
    And, if a man puts a suckling babe to his tits for a long enough period of time, lactation will eventually be stimulated. (However, that would seem to me to be a rather painful process for the man and frustrating process for the suckling child!)

    #110825
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Germ, your telegraph article link, part of their conclusion:

    Vaccination is a guard against the catastrophic day that this virus, which we have watched mutate all too readily, turns nasty on the young, too. Then, vaccination will ensure that it is they who will also be shielded, like adults today, from severe illness and death (if not infection itself) as a potentially awful new strain emerges.

    The propaganda is strong and it always pushes the idea that vaccination is the cautious option. I am sad to see that they are pushing the fear factor again, this is the exact opposite of responsible government. It shows you that once again the criminals at GAVI, WHO and other monied, faux-philanthropic NGOs and businesses are just not going to give up on trying to kill us for money and governments are not going to revert course and start to protect us.

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