Debt Rattle November 18 2021

 

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  • #92862
    those darned kids
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    if you get cured, they fire your doctor.

    #92863
    TheTrivium4TW
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    Money == debt. No debt, no money.

    DEBT == POVERTY.

    The debt-based money system ITSELF drives poverty… so Peterson is flashing his monetary illiteracy when he says poor people ought to be lifted from poverty… THEY CAN’T BE IN THE DEBT-BASED MONEY ZERO-SUM GAMES WITHOUT DRIVING THOSE WITH NET MONEY INTO POVERTY, TOO!

    “If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon.”
    by: Robert Hemphill
    Credit Manager of Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta, Ga.
    Source: In the foreword to a book by Irving Fisher, entitled 100% Money (1935)

    #92864

    If money is energy and the uberrich are a black hole, then they have no choice but to suck all the money inwards towards themselves. Everything they do results in them getting more of the energy of the system. It’s natural. It’s magnetic. It’s entropic. So when the shots go bad, then it’s a win- people get sick and the medical system funnels the money to the black hole. (Wanna see how fast we can get a national health care system in the US? Didn’t some state introduce a vaccine injury compensation law?)
    Everything that looks like an error works to get all the little energy packets into the black hole’s system.
    Freebies and unfunded obligations have to be covered: hey great grand-kiddies! You are born with a million dollar debt on the books- talk about original sin!
    Chaos- the oldest entity of them all- wins in the end. Maybe Lucifer is the “light-bearer” because he consumes it. He’s not bright.

    #92865
    boscohorowitz
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    Trivium

    In the Before Christ years, classic Mediterranean societies coined money via the kind/priests complex, and did so according to censuses whereby every ten years or so, the money supply was adjusted to fit the amount of available material wealth. A command economy in terms of finance.

    Banking didn’t exist back then. Money-lenders were just another form of entrepreneurial business not much pursued.

    But there was a disparity between gold/silver prices in China and Mediterranean Eurasia that let the few people hip to it make fortunes by buying gold in the east and selling it in the west (or something like that; I forget exactly where gold or silver was cheaper/higher.

    The Levant, where JC lived, was the crossroads where these two price environments met albeit with nearly total ignorance by everyone except the money-changers who’d learned of this inequity of price. If you went a few 100 miles either way, the locals knew only one price for gold and silver, had no clue about price differences elsewhere, so a savvy trader could buy, say, silver in what is now Pakistan and sell it in Jerusalem or Cairo or such and make a nifty profit.

    This began the financialization of economies that has become ubiquitous in today’s global village. This may be what upset JC so much about money-changers at the temple. This is also, it seems, how the Jews became so associated with banking. The Diaspora and gradual demonization of Jews caused them to lean heavily on the money trade. Probably drove locals nuts figuring out how the Jews could arrive so poor and soon be rich.

    Kings caught on that certain banking types seemed to always be able to raise capital for them to do things like raise armies, thus forging the initial bankers/kings/military combo we nowadays call the milindustrial complex. It was by no means a Jewish monopoly but they did predominate in the trade, and in a way, being cultural nomads helped expand their trade while keeping it secret.

    The kings would always borrow too heavily, and dilute their currency, and generally turn their currency to shit, in time crashing their economy and typically, their kingdom.

    The banksters would move elsewhere.

    Recently they moved from London to Manhattan and now seem bent on moving to Beijing?

    I can’t remember the name of the obscure book that taught me this, but it was impeccably referenced and thought out.

    What most history books on money teach lack this information entirely, although that may be changing since I read the book 6 years ago.

    #92866
    Germ
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    #92867
    boscohorowitz
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    “So when the shots go bad, then it’s a win- people get sick and the medical system funnels the money to the black hole.”

    Except that money isn’t energy, and when you have WAYYYY more money on the books than energy/stuff tha is either avilable to be bought or that can be made available to be bought, the black hole collapses in on itself.

    Money is just an idea, after all.

    #92868
    boscohorowitz
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    Look what the hep cats drugged and dragged in!

    playlist to study like a medieval philosopher having the truth revealed by divine grace

    Now that’s what I’m talking about.

    G’nite, y’all.

    #92869
    Germ
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    “Cookies For Everybody” ™

    #92870
    ctbarnum
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    For the humor inclined, DeSantis signs legislation, a part of which seeks to replace OSHA in the state, that forbids vaccine mandates. Signed in Brandon, FL.

    ““I think Brandon, Fla., is a great American city,” DeSantis said. The crowd cheered and repeated the Brandon chant.

    “We’re proud to be able to make a stand for freedom in Brandon, Fla.,” the governor said”

    https://floridaphoenix.com/2021/11/18/desantis-signs-limits-on-vaccine-mandates-one-day-after-legislature-approved-them/

    #92871
    ctbarnum
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    The previous link and the Oklahoma National Guard order looks to be looking like states might be organizing to break away from Washington, if states decided to form a pact. What? Feds want their weapons back? Come get em’, or try. Can’t start new wars if the reserves don’t comply either. Another shitlib mantra bites the dust.

    “The Stitt administration is confident they have the authority to defy the Biden administration – as top spokesperson, Charlie Hannema, told the Army Times that the “only way Oklahoma would ‘forfeit’ any federal funding for failing to comply with Title 32 would be to ignore the lawful order of the dually elected civilian authority, i.e. The Governor of Oklahoma.”

    National Guard Bureau spokesperson, Air Force Maj. Matthew Murphy, begged to differ – telling Stars & Stripes that the vax mandate was a “legal gray area that would have to be reviewed by our lawyers.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/oklahoma-national-guard-goes-rogue-after-new-commander-rejects-vaccine-mandate-pentagon

    #92872
    Germ
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    “Extra Cookies No Good” ™

    “The analysis suggests that the relative protection of the booster shot against infection is likely to be significantly smaller than the initial estimates of 10-11-fold (over 90%) reported by the MOH, probably around 60% at best. This also implies that the absolute number of infected individuals in the Vaccinated group is likely to be at least as high as in the Unvaccinated, raising serious concerns that the new Green Pass is inefficient in preventing infection spread, and could expose high risk individuals to risk.”

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3963606

    What a shit-show!

    #92873
    Veracious Poet
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    In my views…(Translation: ego. All the world is ME.)

    This is one of the pitfalls of modern times ~ Everyone’s opinion(s) is utmost! & they’re looking for a cult(s) that matches it.

    No shame = No consequences for WRONG thinking/choices that led directly to disastrous outcomes in personal, public & professional relationships.

    Don’t judge me man!

    Oh, & don’t try to condemn my circular logic just because it defies the Laws of the Universe!!!

    Everyone is special & unique! Ribbons all around, even for those that didn’t do anything!

    Tests are RACISTS! IQ is DISCRIMINATION. Laws are WRONG!

    We have now arrived in the Twilight Zone where no one is special, except TPTB which convinced US to abandon OUR societal safeguards in the name of #CULT fascistic goals.

    Healthy, robust societies have social mores, lines of normalcy to be honored, which rein in child EGO fantastical thinking & behaviour…

    Western civ has surrendered ALL boundaries of reason, logic, decency to the point that only psychopaths that bring Da Feelz’ Goodz are followed ~ Cult preachers that promise superior acceptance of degenerative mass psychosis, never mind the skeletons in their closets!

    #WINNING!

    #BLEAT-BLOOP-BOT!

    #92874
    those darned kids
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    the only playlist i need.

    #92875

    I get it- I sound like a rothschildian trivium. I can’t find the paper on economies as thermodynamics, but I like to try on other people’s hypotheses and walk around in them for a while.
    I do believe that nearly everything that happens pushes money towards money. Every bit of legislation that tries to stop it only ends up exacerbating it.
    Funny, that.

    #92876
    TheTrivium4TW
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    Bosco, nice discernment about separating the Establishment, Inc. narrative from its child victims.

    existential hysteria disorder

    You didn’t make that up, you OBSERVED it and named it, which is what any ANIMATED human being ought to be doing with their mind!

    Reality is out there, but often ignored or misnamed… renaming it correctly is necessary to discern truth…

    “The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.”
    ~Confucius

    #92877
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i do like cookies..

    #92878
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    This is one of the pitfalls of modern times ~ Everyone’s opinion(s) is utmost! & they’re looking for a cult(s) that matches it.

    Except, only a precious few actually have their OWN opinion.

    Most people parrot pre-packaged narratives spewed at them through the tele PROGRAMMING.

    Can’t say they didn’t put the agenda right in the name, can we?

    #92879
    Mister Roboto
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    @Germ: When I first heard about the vaunted “booster” shots, I knew that each successive one would afford the “jabbee” even less protection than the previous one, until it reached the point where boosters stopped having an effect (though I wouldn’t be surprised if those who experienced temporary adverse effects with the second shot experienced increasingly severe AE with each successive booster).

    I suppose this makes me an “anti-vaxxer”, nevermind the fact that I’m very happy with every vaccine I have so far received and would get them again if I were somehow sent back in time to do my life over. In fact, that’s one of the very few things I have no regrets at all about!

    #92880
    Oroboros
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    Reiner Fuellmich Latest Interview with RFK jr The Real Fauci

    ..

    #92881
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Money is just an idea, after all.

    “money….MONEY??? There ain’t no stinking money.
    there is only POWER, and ILLUSION.”
    ~A Rothschild

    “I have already stated many times the so called financial markets are a complete FABRICATION! So their collapse, or rise, is by definition, STAGED! The creation and dissolution of wealth which never existed in REALITY!
    FAITH BASED!
    Laughing out Loud!”
    ~A Rothschild

    And he’s 100% correct in both counts… that’s why his family is ABOVE THE MONEY SYSTEM ITSELF, and property taxes, which contractually assigns your homes, land, vehicles as COLLATERAL to that $40 trillion in government debt… and wait until those interest rates go to 10% or more.

    Free market? There is no way the credit risk of the US matches the interest rate — it is totally rigged by an insider cartel to blow the biggest bubble in human history, which will lead to the biggest collapse in human history… and this time the Money Power IS DONE PROPPING THIS B* UP!

    The GRIND will commence… and remember, every time Money Power Fascist Empire kills off one of your neighbors, or dupes them into killing themselves off, or pays a medical professional to kill them for cash, well, YOUR PORTION OF THE DEBT GOES UP!

    The last ordinary American standing will owe about $80 trillion all by him/herself!

    The GREATER GOOD, indeed!

    #92882
    those darned kids
    Participant

    americans don’t stand, they sit, preferably in a la-z-boy with shiatsu or better still, in a fordbuilttough in the drivethru ;+)

    #92883
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Bosco, Thanks for the historical narrative. I wonder if that narrative matches up well with Money, The Last 6,000 Years, or whatever the title is. I ought to speed read that thing.

    I will add that “the Jews” never controlled money, rather, it was certain select ELITES within the Jewish community that did, but they didn’t want all the heat, so they programmed the masses to tie banking to Jewish people, even though 99.99% of Jews had nothing to do with banking. Or, maybe, they just got lucky and the prejudice/jealousy of non-Jew’s blinded themselves.

    Just ask bankrupt Israelites today how many of them are running the debt-based banking fraud that has bankrupted and asset strip them… I bet you can find a single one randomly in the streets — even if you spent a year trying! But, h*ll, call me Bigotry Buzzkill… lol

    #92884
    chooch
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    Hmmm (feeling cheeky, pre-packaged narratives you say? It took you all of 300+ mentions of the word iron before you dropped in a mention of the hormone hepcidin only to be surpassed by the number of times you mentioned Rothschild. Just saying.

    #92886
    zerosum
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    I searched ….. allergies, peanuts etc. …. covid, vaccines, yellow cards …. failed to find anything negative.
    Maybe someone here can find something worth considering as a negative reaction due to vaccines or covid.

    #92888
    boscohorowitz
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    Per my estimation, all human beings suck at being human beings although that’s all they can be in this world. We like to form camps and copndemn the other. It’s what we do. It’s an ego-driven thing.
    ***
    There is no such thing as “the Jews” any more than “the Cherokee” except as a convenient label.
    ***
    Everybody’s opinion is their own. Some people have opinions with more in common than others, is all. EVerybody forms their opinion almost entirely from pre-made concepts. MOst people aren’t consummate artists and their adventures with paint are mostly limited to paint-by-numbers, coloring books, and Bob Ross, the Man with the Magic Hair Halo.

    Same with thinking.

    But thinking is, in MY opinion, hugely overrated and mostly destructive. I do it way too much for my peace of mind but addiction is addiction.

    Still, I manage to clear my mind several times a day and let innefable peace, wonder, fulfillment, sadness, and joy flow through me with little to no conscious rational examination but rather, a quiet reflection like a pond at dusk.
    ***
    I thought I was going to sleep for several hours as I battle the advent of some bug that likes the taste of my throat. But the little grey cells started a pillow fight upstairs like boarding school brats after lights out.
    ***
    Trivium, the book was titled The Secret History of MOney. Self-published, iirc. FOund it at the Spokane Public Library, so a search there should dig it up.
    ***
    Apparently, Nietzche had no interest in kissing. Shared for the ‘stache and title, not the tunes:

    playlist to study like nietzsche over the abyss in a tightrope between the animal and the übermensch

    #92889

    Bosco- you summoned the trivium!

    #92890
    Veracious Poet
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    I suppose this makes me an “anti-vaxxer”, nevermind the fact that I’m very happy with every vaccine I have so far received and would get them again if I were somehow sent back in time to do my life over. In fact, that’s one of the very few things I have no regrets at all about!

    At this point I trust the entire medical/pharma industry only a little more than I would trust a nazi if I was a Jew in 1930s-1940s Germany.

    Remember the stories of the unvaxxed being forcefully injected while under anesthesia during hospital stays?

    Well, you can add my mother to that nightmare, as suddenly her medical chart shows Pfizer cytotoxin was injected in her, twice, without our authorization 😐

    A> I also realize We don’t know what we don’t know. Like the initials stories of vax control groups getting saline, with researchers finding -0- mRNA cytotoxins within certain marked vials?

    B> Then later certain researchers released data/info indicating that mRNA cytotoxin manufacturers were unable to accurately control levels of nano-tech particle concentration in vax production?

    B may have (probably) been misinterpreted as A, but who knows with all the misinfo being spread by the mRNA CULT(s)?!?

    Moreover, the #ANTILOGOS bots attacking Ivermectin always neglect (purposely?) to mention IVM is just PART of a protocol to prevent/treat bioWEAPON attack….

    Nevermind that IVM is a bonafide MIRACLE drug all on its own, that has benefited BILLIONS, with an efficacy-to-side effect ratio that Pfizer could only dream of!

    What we do know from the data points is that mRNA vaccines are immediately dangerous when given @ dosage.

    We also know any & all attempts to discover the truth about the vaccines, or that of CCP/NIH bioWEAPON(s) themselves, has been impeded if not outright quashed from the very start…

    Anyone defending or promoting this deceptive, surreptitious & TOTALITARIAN behavior by the apparatchiks + the medical/pharma industry is an enemy of the Infinite’s children.

    P.S. I have purchased IVM paste, which I later switched for IVM injectable (2X 500ml) for oral use from:

    https://vic.pharmacy/search/products/Ivermectin

    I suggest you order immediately if you need it, stock is dwindling + I’m sure the bots will try to cancel them now 😐

    #92892
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Trivium:

    There’s this:

    The Babylonia Woe

    I’m not sure, but it feels a lot like the same guy. He might have rewritten the book in condensed form. The original was a few hundred pages of difficult prose but excellent information and analysis.

    It mentions the silver/gold price imbalance. The name rings a bell but wishful thinking is a mnemonic carillon, so it’s probably just me doing my Charles Laughton impersonation.

    #92893
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Bosco- you summoned the trivium!”

    I have no problem with Trivium that I don’t have with many posters here, many of whom exhibit a bit of mono-focus and express themselves with a strident intensity that looks an awful lot like arrogance; but he’s never gotten in my face nor have I seen him get in anyone else’s face, and he remains true to his particular code, best I can tell.

    Brains/psyches/emotions come in many flavors. So long as a person doesn’t negatively project onto me, I’m cool with it. While Triv’s style is not my cup of tea, I often learn things from him when I read his stuff. It takes all kinds.

    Works for me.

    #92894
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    A lost art form from the days when burlesque was still intact and felt in the new media.

    Sid Caesar The Seal

    #92895
    those darned kids
    Participant

    If you wish to examine a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon. — Bokonon

    #92896
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I hate videos as info conveyance unless they’re tautly constructed and brief like a good TED Talks presentation, but this might be useful to ABs galore:

    trategies and tactics for legal efforts against the deathjab

    #92897
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i love this freakin’ planet!!!

    to wit: Big Chief Rabbi: Why Cherokees could be Jewish

    #92898
    deflationista
    Participant

    Dumb all over.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/texts-show-kimberly-guilfoyle-bragged-about-raising-millions-for-rally-that-fueled-capitol-riot

    Texts Show Kimberly Guilfoyle Bragged About Raising Millions for Rally That Fueled Capitol Riot

    Text messages reviewed by ProPublica represent the strongest indication yet that members of the Trump family inner circle were involved in financing and organizing the Jan. 6 “Save America” rally, which immediately preceded the Capitol riot.

    #92899
    ctbarnum
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    #92900
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @userzeroid: a thoughtful post. Appreciate your perspective. Interested in this:

    “Where’s the incentive? I can buy a set of oils and canvas and paint much like the masters did, yet I do not need the church in order to fund a huge overhead in the cost of raw materials. Ditto music, cooking, video/film, photography, study of astronomy, geography and many many others. I could do it all if I choose to. Yet I am missing the spirit of all these things. Who would appreciate it? There are those who are doing stellar work in these fields and we are missing the wonder of the human element of creativity, instead ensnared in a hideous power play between the rulers and predatory forces out to squeeze every penny of revenue and ounce of consent to manipulate the laws of society in order for them to game the system. It’s human nature that is our greatest enemy and nothing has changed since time immemorial.”

    The incentive is wherever YOU are. The only thing stopping you from being a creative is YOU. Pull yourself out of the game through awareness….transcend the dark side of Human Nature by going beyond it. This is possible – and essential. It begins with you choosing to connect, to take action with awareness. Even daily tasks present opportunity, they are like a blank canvas where you “develop” a masterpiece by applying yourself to it. One may not love the work, the task, the project at hand, but that does not matter. What matters is how YOU choose to fulfill your commitment. When you find focus, purpose, joy, creativity in your effort – then it becomes an act of LOVE. Work with LOVE. Write with LOVE. Garden with LOVE. Clean the house with LOVE. Every act of LOVE is an act of resistance.

    LOVE to all.

    #92901
    deflationista
    Participant

    Tucker Carlson’s Jan. 6 ‘Documentary’ Is His Most Nakedly Fascist Piece Of Propaganda Yet

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-patriot-purge-is-fascist-january-6-revisionism_n_6192b4a9e4b05e93cbb3c1d7

    #92902
    deflationista
    Participant

    Owning the libs.

    COVID Gets Even Redder

    The gap in COVID’s death toll between red and blue America has grown faster over the past month than at any previous point.

    In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from COVID, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.

    https://news.yahoo.com/covid-gets-even-redder-191319465.html

    #92903
    chooch
    Participant

    But how do we know which way the dead voted? No county is 100% Trump or %100 Biden.

    #92904
    zerosum
    Participant

    Only the old, obese, immune compromised. 25 out of every 100,000 residents and 7.8 per 100,000

    The poor and uneducated with natural herd immunity are still there.

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