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    Pablo Picasso Nude, Green Leaves and Bust 1932   • Israel Wants to Flatten Gaza; Egypt, Qatar to Handle Refugees – Sy Hersh (Sp.) • One Of The Po
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 16 2023]

    #144807
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Importing Muslims seems to be working a treat all over. Now they can pull a riot-on-demand and not have to post on Craigslist and pay for it like 2020.

    “And Now This: US Must Be Ready for Simultaneous Wars with China, Russia, Bipartisan Report Warns

    “The United States and its allies must be ready to deter and defeat both adversaries simultaneously. The U.S.-led international order and the values it upholds are at risk from the Chinese and Russian authoritarian regimes.”

    Wrong answer, would you like to try again? You same guys can’t even get RAILROADS to work. We invented those before the country was even born?* You won’t spend penny-money hardening the grid from EMP. You are violently against nutrition and healthy males. 100% of all things you do are AGAINST military readiness. …And I didn’t even have to pick on your choice of non-sailing surface ships and non-flying planes that are sitting ducks. We are not going into a war. Lay off the drugs, man. Like Tsar Nicolas, if we do, it will be as if with outdated horse-drawn force that gets us killed instantly.

    Since fixing all that stuff would make you rich in the trillions, but won’t, what are you really up to? You suddenly don’t like graft? Don’t like money? Don’t like free printed government contracts to Bechtel? Huh, that’s funny. Capitalists and fascists who are against money and war. Weird. C’mon, this is a setup and you are a joke.

    Anyway, so our outdated, coffee-can carrier groups are steaming into Gaza? For what? To hit a camel in the butt? NO. They are attacking SYRIA, Iran. So they need to sink a ship. Do we have a ship there called the “Liberty”? The USS “Cooked”?

    “Moscow – in collaboration with Ankara – launching a Global South-supported blockade-busting operation against Israel.” …At their weak point: Russia does not own the seas. If they had got Crimea (war) or Turkey (coup) it would be even worse.

    You can see they’re rushed, their hair is on fire, suddenly bonds fail? Then suddenly war 2 days before Russia breaks through? Then they’re ready but suddenly no invasion? You have this planned or not?

    As Jeru Times? Since when do they — like us all media run by secret state — NOT support leaders and war? Well Bibi is hated by Army and Mossad, they’ve been fighting. …Aaaaand he’ll be arrested. …Aaaaaand what does that mean? Since roughly then he can make a mistake? Sink a ship, bomb an Iranian reactor?

    MSNBC supports Muslims against racist Bush and Trump. Like Ukraine, as long as it takes. Whoops, forgot. Who are you again? Don’t look familiar…

    Fire all the brown people! MSNBC special.

    “Shahid Bolsen” Yup.

    Okay, and now WHY? It doesn’t make sense unless whoever is running this HATES ACTUAL JEWS. And remember, we’re FUNDING BOTH SIDES. Which means, “America”, whoever this is, HATES ACTUAL JEWS. As they 99% vaccinated only the Jews, leaving the Muslims, because they HATE ACTUAL JEWS.

    …While they claim they love them. Uh-huh. And all this while we know that they are also, genetically, heritage Jews. So the JEWS hate the Jews? THEY are the ones killing and causing violence to THEMSELVES? No, that never happens either or not with power and cohesion. Depressed, suicidal people are listless and conflicted. No, there is a SUBSET of Jews, who hate the MASS of Jews and are using them for something. Steering them around like a pirate ship to smash into things, then blame the HMS “Admiral Nelson” since “Nelson” is written on the side. But you think that’s Nelson captaining that ship just because they found a Union Jack in the locker? Illogical.

    “Stupid is as stupid does.” Ignore everything they’ve ever said, who they claim they are. Watch what they DO. This is what they DO. Israel could be peaceful and successful, but they want it DESTROYED. Why? Because they have “A Plan”, a story they are trying to get you involved in, and burning some props makes it real to you.

    Nor are they any different from the same divide and conquer in the U.S. with race, etc. Claim to be on one side, your friend, and as Malcolm X said, they are more dangerous than those claiming to be your enemies.

    Now this guys says it’s in “American Interests”. I know he has to name a name somewhere, but he can apply the same lens to us. Like Israel, WHAT American gets a benefit from this? From Israel payouts, or whatever, including Ukraine war $150B, etc. Whatever tactics he claims “America” is using on Israel, “America” is also using on “America.” So whoever “They” are, they are not “America”. They are a tiny subset of that group, even if they are, born, named “Americans”, like General-shaped object Milley, eg. But they are provably AntiAmericans, against all our laws and principles, which is why we call them “Traitors”.

    ““The path to building the Third Temple is cleared. But… a billion Muslims, of whom 50 million (officially) are in Europe, start an uprising now in the West itself. Civil war erupts in Europe.”

    Perfect. Cue quotes of “Three World Wars”. By laboriously creating this story, this side we all identify with, then moving ½ of each side into each county and state, then pulling the trigger so they take sides and argue with each other…is the greatest act of Divide-and-conquer in the history of the universe, breathtaking in its scope. Same as dividing Red and Blue in each state and household.

    …But won’t work. Not that the events won’t happen, they will, there is a lot of inertia and people in former thinking. Not that they don’t have attacks and sleepers. They do. But their 200-year master plan won’t ACCOMPLISH what they want. Like Europe after Normandy, you can make a h—l of a mess, but you can’t win the war.

    Anyway, even seeing them import 10 million Muslims then pull the trigger once imported, that’s just so blatant I don’t know how people can miss it. It totally demonstrates the whole thing is a scam.

    “When asked if the situation in Congress threatens world security, Biden responded “yes,”

    Why? What business is “The world” to us? Only if we are “World Policemen” to therefore a World government that doesn’t admit they exist and nobody voted for. Only then would that quote be possible.

    Other than that, the only business of the United States or our security is if someone invades us. …Oh, wait. That’s the only thing they DON’T care about. Fences in Finland, Ukraine, Israel: unlimited money. To shut two doors in the fence we already have in Texas: against the law. I say all Humans are legal. Let Hamas into Ashqelon and Russia into Lviv.

    ““The Jewish nation is no longer homeless in the world, but when will the Palestinian nation return to its home?”

    Again, all articles taking our eyes off the ball in Ukraine, Impeachment, Bonds, economy…

    Military Summary is on 4x a day now because the pressure and action in Adiivika (for example) won’t stop. As said, they have 90 tanks, are exchanging shells and clearing minefields, looking for the breakthrough. It was correct: it is hard enough to break through now where Ukraine has no men and no army. Imagine doing it before. But for example, they finally stopped the pointless random shelling of their own civilians in Donetsk, removing that artillery presumably to fight actual Russians.

    ““..no one has ever written them, and no one has ever agreed to them with anyone. How can we talk about order based on rules that no one has seen?”

    This is a great way to put it, I’ve been looking for a way to say “What Rules” for some years now, but nothing snappy has come to mind. …It’s the Mind of King John, waking up from a hangover of carousing and besotting. Whatever he feels like in his addled little head are “The Rules”. At lunch, when it wears off, “The Rules” all change again, and Lancaster is no longer a Traitor we confiscate lands from, York is and we send scrolls to steal their lands instead.

    “Today they accept colonization of themselves by their former colonial subjects. White ethnic nations are disappearing.”

    Uhhhhh… …What does “White” mean? You don’t want me to go on a long discourse here, but what are you talking about? The original “Whites”, weren’t. AND YOU KNOW THAT. The English beat the French, who hated the Spanish, and they all looked down on the “Non-white” Irish, Scots, and Poles, then later the Non-White Italians, etc. So what mass bloc of “Whites” “Built the countries”. You take a word define it one way for 1500-1900, then flip and define it another way since then, then wonder why you and everyone else is confused.

    Okay, fast forward: as Mexican immigrants, even illegals, or Chinese, Korean immigrants, even, acculturate, Americanize in the Melting Pot, they are said to be “White”. They joke about this regularly, it’s a Standup Staple we can only dream the will talk about something else, like women and their vaginas, and yet we do know what they mean. So ARE they “white”, according to you? Yes? No? So “Both” then. Yes, if your words have no meaning, then your logic won’t either. It’s like math where the number “Three” might mean “3” at one point, but “3 ½” a little later, then actually works out to “9” in some other equations: you might as well not bother, because it won’t make any sense. Therefore, won’t be an actionable science that you can apply to the world. That’s the whole POINT of describing things. Words are handles, levers. You guys are making handles, sure, and patting yourselves on the back. But the handles are in the box without any screws, not attached to anything. They fall off. That is, they are not handles. They are “Handle-shaped-objects”.

    “Gloster Canaries”

    They’re really Liverpool Canaries. Totally Fab.

    Okay, takeaways: They need to keep this totally fake made-up war going, so look for the sinking ship attack, possibly even NOT by Russia, the long-range bombing raid on Iran, and similar totally pointless stupidity that won’t help them at all shortly.

    Want to know when? Follow the bond market. “And then a Miracle Happened.”

    *Minus the independent steam engines.

    #144808
    Red
    Participant

    Dr. D: “Yes, if your words have no meaning, then your logic won’t either. It’s like math where the number “Three” might mean “3” at one point, but “3 ½” a little later, then actually works out to “9” in some other equations: you might as well not bother, because it won’t make any sense.”

    I had to re-read the paragraph I thought I missed the switch to talk of economists!

    #144809
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    “…my stepfather survived Auschwitz, Dachau and Majdanek”. Impressive, that’s three concentration camps in a row.”

    “Norman Finkelstein, son of Holocaust survivors”

    Classic ‘acquisitive projective identification’ where the writers/speakers, stepson and son respectively take credit for the identity of their stepfather and father respectively.

    Their behavior begs the following question.
    So what?

    #144811
    Red
    Participant
    #144812
    Red
    Participant

    Israel deliberately targets Palestinian firefighters and rescue teams.
    These are not mistakes but a terror tactic.
    Rescue teams and ambulances are prime targets for the Israeli air force.

    https://t.me/strategika51intel/5230

    #144813
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Reiner arrested in Mexico.
    Viviane Fischer, chick with weird hair cut and former member of his team, had a claim, way back (a year ago at least that I may recall?), that he had embezzled money from the collective team’s account.

    https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/breaking-reiner-fuellmich-taken-from

    #144814
    zerosum
    Participant

    Another way for reporters, to say,

    It’s a lie. It’s not my fault, they lied to me.

    “Reports Have Not Been Substantiated”
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    What are your news medias telling/reporting about important events?
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    TAE found https://sputnikglobe.com/20231015/sy-hersh-israel-gearing-up-to-flatten-gaza-wants-egypt-qatar-to-handle-refugees-1114215736.html

    • Israel Wants to Flatten Gaza; Egypt, Qatar to Handle Refugees – Sy Hersh (Sp.)

    Egypt does not way another refugee problem caused by Israel.
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    A disconnect between the media coverage and public opinion
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    The labyrinth of shell companies and accounts were set up by others, not the President or his son.
    Despite the media running cover for the Bidens for years, the public is just not buying it.
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    The updated vaccines were meant to target the COVID-19(misinformation meant to scare you. ) The XBB.1.5 variant, is an Omicron variant.

    “Weak initial effectiveness that quickly waned. CDC officials made unsupported claims during the briefing, part of a trend for the agency. “These vaccines will prevent severe disease for COVID-19,” Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease, told reporters. There’s no evidence that’s true.”

    • Only 2% of Americans Have Received New COVID Vaccine: CDC (ET)

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    War/hate/ does not make/result in peace.

    #144815
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Only 30% of American adults believe Biden has “not done anything wrong”

    Wait that cannot be because

    Only 2% of Americans Have Received New COVID Vaccine: CDC (ET)

    Why aren’t they getting their Hurricane Shots if they think he’s so great? Are they that good at being unaware of what they’re aware of?

    #144816
    Noirette
    Participant

    Thanks for the vid. of Shahid Bolsen. I never heard / read someone being so clear about Isr. / US relations in brief vid/text before.

    (He leaves out the European vassals like Germany and France, and relations with Iran (…) for ex. OK…)

    I agree with him in the main, minor points aren’t worth bringing up.

    I have taken a lot of flack in my life from my teenage years for supporting Palestinians. I remember at age 13 I read in a newspaper that some movie star supported ‘the Palestinian cause’ and that gave me courage.

    The two-state solution has always been a kind of fakey fig-leaf touted from the US/West, sounding rational, etc. For 60 plus years nobody in the US – W / Isr / other has made any effort to implement it, as it is *agreed upon* that Palestinians can never have an ‘own’ state.

    In any case the territory is too small, too checkered and patchy, too ressource poor (gas fields off the Gaza strip – other story), too dependent on outside funding. Isr: from the US. Gaza: from UNWRA, int’l community.

    #144817
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    The man opposed to drafting our girls…that is why I don’t believe my daughter will get drafted. I am grateful.

    Last week my daughter went to the AZ state fair. I gave her cash to pay for her entrance fee and rides pass. They charge a $2 surcharge for all cash transactions! I suppose that is the next tactic for eliminating cash…. Oh, and the entrance tickets are all via smartphone. I guess the non-smartphone savvy are no longer welcome?

    The Revelations prophecy…that is one of the problems with prophecy in general — they tend to be self-fulfilling. It’s hard to know whether such prophecies are the wild ravings of a lunatic or result from a connection with “the divine” or some quirk of the universe. Regardless, it is people who read them and then look at the world and instead of thinking, “Wow, fomenting strife in The Holy Land is a colossally stupid idea,” they think: “Well, strife in The Holy Land is inevitable anyhow, and will hasten The Rapture, so it doesn’t matter if I contribute to the conflict.” Idiotic. Think about it: the Crusaders probably used the same logic to justify their depredations in The Holy Land.

    #144818
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    The two-state solution for Israel & Palestine is like a divorce where the children never grow up. It isn’t ideal, but it is better than the alternative, where one spouse perpetually abuses the other. My spouse reminded me the other day that one of the great fears of Israelis is that the Arabs will outcompete them in the baby-making contest and, as a result, a completely democratic, integrated state would be doomed to eventually oppress the Jews. I could point out that since Israel is perpetually inviting in more Jews from around the world that this could be avoided, or that the Jews would have a few generations in which to befriend the Palestinians so that they were disinclined to be oppressive — but that is useless since he isn’t the one who needs convincing, he just happens to be conversant in the concerns of the Israelis.

    So, a two-state solution, while far from ideal, would be a way to de-escalate tensions, both sides could be armed to the teeth, and as long as neither violate the borders they can each reproduce and invite immigrants as they see fit. The problem is that Israel has been ascendant for so long now, that it doesn’t see the need to make territory concessions to the Palestinians — it is far too comfortable with the dominant role, and isn’t willing to go from dominance to parity. And that is why the situation is abysmal.

    #144819
    Noirette
    Participant

    UNWRA

    here their flash appeal, front page, for GAZA, today

    https://www.unrwa.org

    UNWRA is the UN agency that has between 30 – 40 K employees. Almost all of them are Palestinians, they are teachers, doctors, technicians, nurses, builders, specialists in this or that (waste disposal for ex.), and so on, paid to keep the refugees alive. One salary of course covers, serves, Idk, but for sure at least 2-6 other family members, and the services keep others alive.

    UNWRA. Services are available to all registered Palestine refugees living in its area of operations who need assistance. When UNRWA began operations in 1950, it was responding to the needs of about 700,000 Palestinian refugees. By 2019, some 5.6 million people were registered as eligible for UNRWA services.

    The wiki isn’t tops but best I could find for a short text.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNRWA

    One has to realise that for ex. in Gaza, it isn’t possible to ‘work’ to ‘earn money’ – it is a prison camp, and the prisoners are paid for by ‘donators’ (like tax-payers in the US) for them to be locked up, fed, etc. UNRWA fulfills that mission. The money comes from donations to the UN, mostly from the US and the EU, plus Arab states.

    #144820
    Noirette
    Participant

    phonenixvoice, yes, maybe for a while, but not in the long run…

    #144821
    zerosum
    Participant

    Jim Jordan – yes
    1. Everyone input what they want into first bill.
    2. It takes only one person to force Jim to resign if the bill is defeated.
    3. repeat

    #144822
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Returned from Balkans.Great way to stay away from the internet and commenting for a while.
    Just visited a few of TAE prior posts.
    One thing I may say to Polemos and John Day is that the worst thing you can tell to an artist that you would have loved his work if it’s “something else”. I am talking about Oxy’s Doomsday Prepper.
    Polemos’ 1.25x or higher speed proposal – I mean yes and no? Creator wanted it his way.
    John’s Tibetan chant influence with (doctor’s) prescription as how to do it was way over the top. IMHO.
    I have found the tune has nice beat to it with great female voice highlights – which I am not sure as how they would work with the “Tibetan”.

    #144823
    zerosum
    Participant

    Nine days
    Many ways to kill.

    Israel does not need to enter Gaza to kill everyone there.
    no water
    no food
    Bowel movement needed before 3 days. (toilets don’t work)
    Urinate before 12 hours
    no clean diapers
    no baby food
    no Medication for sick and wounded
    no Sleep
    no Shelter
    no hospitals

    #144824
    zerosum
    Participant

    What is the purpose of the news media to continually repeat the videos of the bombing and destruction of highrise buildings, destroying infrastructures, etc in Gaza.

    #144825
    John Day
    Participant

    Throw Bibi Under The Bus https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/throw-bibi-under-the-bus

    My 90 minute bike rides, doing laps around our quiet neighborhood, are a time for reflection and integration of thoughts and ideas. Today’s meditation about the current crisis of longstanding injustice in Palestine/Israel brought me to think of a path through this to a 2-state solution, such as was agreed at the Oslo Accords in 1992-1995, which initiated a process working towards a 2-state solution for Israel & Palestine, which was halted by the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin 11/4/1995.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Accords https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Rabin
    Prime Minister Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish nationalist who opposed any agreement to terms with indigenous Palestinians, believing that Jewish Israelis had absolute right to all of the “land of Israel”, as ordained by God. That was a stark warning to all Israeli politicians, though broad support remained for this among Jewish Israelis.

    A few days ago Seymour Hersh had this to say about Netanyahu’s reaction to the Oslo Accords:
    How Bibi’s Opposition to Two-State Solution Claimed Lives of Jews and Arabs​
    “Tel Aviv accepted the PLO as the representative of the Palestinians, and the PLO recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace. The document stipulated the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA), which would assume governing responsibilities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
    At the time, Netanyahu was out of office: he served as a prime minister between 1996 and 1999 and won the Israeli prime ministership for the second time in 2009. When Bibi returned to office in 2009, he “chose to support Hamas” as an alternative to the Palestinian Authority, “and gave them money and established them in Gaza,” according to the insider.
    Furthermore, an arrangement with Qatar was made under which hundreds of millions of dollars were directed to the Hamas leadership with Israeli approval, per the source.​” https://sputnikglobe.com/20231012/sy-hersh-how-bibis-opposition-to-two-state-solution-claimed-lives-of-jews-and-arabs-1114146176.html

    ​ Also in that piece is the explanation that P.M. Netanyahu had removed the trained Israeli soldiers, that patrol the border fortifications around Gaza, from their posts.
    ​ On October 6 a group of Jewish settlers were reported to have clashed with local Palestinians in Huwara, a village in the northern part of the West Bank, which resulted in the death of a 19-year-old Arab man.
    ​ Israeli settlers in the West Bank required “extraordinary protection” over the upsurge in violence. So, Netanyahu gave a nod to local Israeli military authorities to order two of the three Army battalions that controlled the border with Gaza to shift their focus to the Sukkot festival. Given that each battalion comprised about 800 soldiers, 1,600 were sent to shield the Orthodox Jews.
    ​ Thus, unsurprisingly, the diminished IDF contingent was overrun by Hamas militants on October 7, while Israeli civilians were left unprotected.

    ​ In addition to the 2/3 reduction in forces, and coming the morning after a Jewish feast day, there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence that the border-fence monitoring had to have been shut down for this to have happened “without warning”.
    Section Commander of the Gaza Fence: “The obstacle is built so that even a fox cannot pass it”. They Let It Happen. The Hamas Attack Was Allowed to Close the Book on Palestine.​ https://www.globalresearch.ca/speculation-mark-hamas-attack-allowed-close-book-palestine/5836029

    #144826
    John Day
    Participant

    Israel Fostered the Rise of Hamas, Even After It Turned to Terror​ . Deliberately undermining the peace process by eliminating acceptable counterparties​
    In the aftermath of Saturday’s terrorist and military attacks on Israel by the Palestinian group Hamas, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared,
    ​“The forces of civilization must support Israel in defeating Hamas…In fighting Hamas, Israel is not only fighting for its own people, it is fighting for every country that stands against barbarism.”
    ​ Those sentiments are quite different from ones Netanyahu privately shared in 2019.
    “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told Likud Party legislators.
    ​ Doing so would help prevent the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority (PA) from ruling Gaza and giving Palestinians a relatively moderate, unified voice at the negotiating table.
    “This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

    Israel Fostered the Rise of Hamas, Even After It Turned to Terror

    ​ Returning to the opening of Hersh’s story, his informant, presumably at a fairly high level in the security complex, had this overall view:
    ​ “Benjamin Netanyahu “is finished,” as his decision to allow a group of Orthodox settlers to celebrate Sukkot in the West Bank last week was ill-timed, given the growing tensions between Jews and Palestinians in the region, an Israeli source told Seymour Hersh.​”
    ​ There is a clear rationale for Netanyahu to “allow” or even to help an “Israeli 9/11” to take place, to unify the country behind him, in the face of over half a year of opposition to his policies, and the ongoing fact of his criminal cases proceeding in the criminal justice system.

    ​ The Jewish political factions in Israel are roughly equally divided into Orthodox religious fundamentalists who believe that God gave Jews the land absolutely, and that anything which diverges from that on the ground is against-God’s-will, and secular Jews who serve in the IDF (without religious exemptions), work in industry and commerce, and pay taxes.
    The fundamentalist faction studies Torah and has large families, and is supported in this by the state. This has been a growing demographic for decades, and is now in political power in the Knesset, and seeks to remove the authority of the Supreme Court of Israel to override the Knesset in “extreme-cases”. This has been the source of political division this year. Some divisions are also apparent within the IDF, Shin Bet and Mossad, with rationalist views being prevalent, yet with strong support for the Zionist project.

    The Arab neighborhood will not accept the ejection of Palestinians from their remaining homelands, nor will it accept their genocide. The Israeli plans to carry out carpet bombings of Gaza City this weekend, then to follow that with bulldozers and assault forces has been delayed by various events and pressures. The Arab and Persian neighbors are agreeing on their positions and potential contributions to efforts to support Palestinians with aid, and draw red-lines for Israel/US militarily. Russia offers to be the trusted intermediary in negotiations, which the US will balk at, but which is also practical in the new regional realities.

    Eleni sends this from Philip Giraldi: It’s another 9/11 or Pearl Harbor but who actually did what to whom?
    Netanyahu even stated several years later that “9/11 was a good thing because it made the United States join us in our fight.” That the attacks killed 3,000 Americans did not bother the Israeli government as Israel has a long history of killing Americans when it can benefit from so doing, starting with the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 which killed 34 sailors.
    So too in this case in Gaza Netanyahu may have decided to encourage an unexpected development, making it like 9/11, that would enable him to escalate and “mow the grass” as the Israelis put it, in the remainder of Arab Palestine. And bear in mind that the actual incident that triggered the uprising was a rampage involving at least 800 Israeli settlers in and around the al-Aqsa mosque, the third holiest site in Islam, beating pilgrims and destroying Palestinian shops, all without any interference from the nearby Israeli security forces. The rioting was clearly allowed and even encouraged by the government.
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/gaza-strikes-back/

    Here is a 4 minute interview on Israeli broadcast media, with a woman who survived being taken hostage by Hamas in a kibbutz. She survived the Israeli army assault because she went out as a human shield with a Hamas gunman who wanted to surrender, and she shouted the purpose to Israeli soldiers, who could see that he was unarmed and mostly disrobed. She saw many Kibbutz members on the ground, dead “from the heavy crossfire”, and specifically and repeatedly stated that they were mainly killed by Israeli fire. She left 11 other hostages and Hamas gunmen in the small house, and all but one woman were killed when an Israeli tank fired two high explosive rounds into the small house, and it fell silent. It was a surprise that one woman raised her head up among the dead bodies. Thanks to Cat and Gilad for this.
    Israeli forces shot their own civilians, kibbutz survivor says

    #144827
    Red
    Participant

    CGTN correspondent breaks down in tears while reporting in Gaza

    #144828
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ IDF Notifies Families Of 199 Hostages Held In Gaza, Vows To Avoid Airstrikes On Their Locations
    ​ Further, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari indicted the military does have some information on where they are being held in the Gaza Strip. However, reports from days ago suggest some may have already been killed.
    ​ Hamas had earlier claimed that 13 of the hostages were killed in Israeli airstrikes, but the IDF rejected this, saying “we have our own information and do not believe the lies of Hamas.”
    ​ On Monday the IDF’s Hagari sought to assure familes that “We are making valiant efforts to try to understand where the hostages are in Gaza, and we have such information.” And he also qualified, “We will not carry out an attack that would endanger our people.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-notifies-families-199-hostages-held-gaza-vows-avoid-airstrikes-their-believed

    Hamas ready to release hostages if Israeli airstrikes stop: Iran
    Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanaani said Hamas officials “stated that they are ready to take necessary measures to release the citizens and civilians held by resistant groups, but their point was that such measures require preparations that are impossible under daily bombardment by the Zionists against various parts of Gaza.”​https://thehill.com/policy/international/4258414-iran-hamas-israel-hostages/

    Israel links Gaza aid to hostages’ release as humanitarian disaster looms​ [War crimes to continue until morale improves]
    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-warns-iran-over-gaza-israel-forms-emergency-war-cabinet-2023-10-11/

    ​ Simplicius has a lot of information about the history and intrigues of Israel & Palestine, which is worth reading. ​(Note: Palestinians “die”, but Israelis “are murdered”.)
    ​ The only real workable solution that makes any logical sense is to institute the Two State Solution, which is something that’s already been on the UN docket and what every sane world power/leader has called for, including Russia recently. Palestine must be fully legitimized with all attendant rights and privileges.
    ​ But allow me to quickly answer why that will never be allowed to happen. It’s very simple: becoming a legitimate state means you are allowed to develop an official armed forces for that state. Recall that the reason Palestine is forced to use guerilla units dubbed “terrorist groups” simply for their hybrid style of fighting, is because Palestine is under illegal military occupation by Israel, and is not allowed to have its own armed forces. Were it to truly be a state, it would necessarily have to be able to develop its own indigenous, regimented military infrastructure. And given everything I just said about Palestinians vastly out-breeding the Israelis, why would Israel want a legitimate state with its own armed forces pressed right up against it, which will vastly outnumber the IDF in the not-so-distant future? In Israel’s eyes, that would mean the end of Israel.
    ​ So, of course that will never be allowed to happen.
    https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/israeli-conflict-takes-eschatological

    China Says Israel Has ‘Gone Beyond Self-Defense’ In Response To Hamas Attack
    “Israel’s actions have gone beyond self-defense,” Mr. Wang claimed, urging the Israeli government to stop what he called “collective punishment of civilians in Gaza,” according to the readout from China’s foreign ministry.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-says-israel-has-gone-beyond-self-defense-response-hamas-attack

    #144829
    John Day
    Participant

    Sy Hersh: Israel Gearing Up to Flatten Gaza, Wants Egypt, Qatar to Handle Refugees
    https://sputnikglobe.com/20231015/sy-hersh-israel-gearing-up-to-flatten-gaza-wants-egypt-qatar-to-handle-refugees-1114215736.html

    ​ And in COVID-Strikes-Back news, the Gestapo ambushes and kidnaps Anti-Military-Pharmaceutical-Complex Attorney, Reiner Fuelmich on secret charges about finances.
    ​BREAKING: Reiner Fuellmich Taken From German Embassy In Mexico On Passport Errand, Flown To Frankfurt and Arrested
    ​ They related to allegations of Viviane Fischer, a former team member on the Corona Committee, about financial wrongdoing.
    Three people signed the charges against Reiner.
    Perhaps the craziest aspect of the charges is that the money Reiner allegedly took is in the bank account (or anyway, was in the bank account) of one of the 3 people.
    https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/breaking-reiner-fuellmich-taken-from

    #144830
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    The Great Travel Reset

    #144831
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    The Great Travel Reset

    https://rumble. com/v3prfh7-the-great-travel-reset.html

    #144832
    Red
    Participant

    The stock market may be waking up to the possibility that Pfizer may go bankrupt due to the upcoming Covid vaccine legal claims. Many parallels can be drawn between the corporate behaviors of Pfizer and Purdue Pharma, a pharmaceutical concern that dishonestly and aggressively marketed harmful products. Purdue Pharma went bankrupt due to the greed and depravity of its leaders, as its ‘legal protections’ evaporated. Might the same happen to Pfizer?

    Old, experienced vaccine companies like GSK refused to participate in ‘Covid vaccines’ – and we now see why they may have made the right choice.

    Take a look at this chart: Pfizer’s stock (PFE) is valued at 25% less than it was five years ago, despite the billions of dollars it received from the sales of Covid vaccines, and the wider stock market and the pharmaceuticals index having gone up:

    Pfizer May Go Bankrupt, Financial Markets Realise, as Company’s Value Plummets to Below Pre-Pandemic Level

    #144833
    John Day
    Participant

    @Kultsommer: No offense intended. It would just have more gravitas and be more compelling an octave lower, bro.
    I like Oxymoron, and would have said nothing if I did not feel that we were friends and brothers.

    #144834
    Red
    Participant

    JERUSALEM, Israel (LifeSiteNews) – An Israeli boy featured in a video used to push COVID vaccines on children in a nationwide campaign died tragically from a sudden heart attack in late September. The boy was only 8 years old.

    According to reports, Yonatan Moshe Erlichman, grandson of a distinguished physician in Beit El, Dr. Mati Erlichman, “died unexpectedly of cardiac arrest while taking a bath.”

    The 8-year-old boy is said to have “slipped under the water after his heart suddenly stopped beating, causing him to drown.” After being rushed to Hadassah Hospital on Mount Scopus, Yonatan died a few days later on Sept. 28.

    In 2020, at the age of 5, the child had appeared in a video produced by the regional council of Mateh Binyamin. The video was part of a government program aimed at pushing COVID vaccines on children, despite the nearly universal immunity of children to COVID-19.

    The video made Yonatan a “poster child” for the vaccine campaign in Israel, which became one of the most draconian nations in the world for vaccine measures. The video aired just before the nationwide vaccine campaign began.

    More
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/israeli-boy-featured-in-covid-vaccine-campaign-dies-of-heart-attack-at-age-8/

    #144835
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    A Chinese military jet intercepted a Canadian Armed Forces Aurora aircraft in an “aggressive manner” on Monday in international airspace off the coast of China.

    Seriously!

    At least two different Chinese jets intercepted the Canadian plane consistently for multiple hours during the more than eight-hour-long mission. The Chinese jets came within about five metres of the Canadian plane.

    The Chinese jet also launched multiple firework-like flares near the Canadian aircraft. These aggressive intercepts took place shortly after the crew lost contact with their base due to an apparent communications glitch with the equipment.

    The 13-member crew on board the Canadian mission is tasked with helping to stop illegal oil shipments to North Korea.

    … read more at:

    Chinese military jet intercepts Canadian Forces plane in ‘aggressive manner’
    https://globalnews.ca/news/10027324/chinese-military-aircraft-intercept-canadian-forces/

    F.S.

    #144836
    Red
    Participant

    Indeed, a pleased Netanyahu even stated several years later that “9/11 was a good thing because it made the United States join us in our fight.”

    That the attacks killed 3,000 Americans did not bother the Israeli government as Israel has a long history of killing Americans when it can benefit from so doing, starting with the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 which killed 34 sailors.

    So too in this case in Gaza, Netanyahu may have decided to encourage an unexpected development, making it like 9/11, that would enable him to escalate and “mow the grass” as the Israelis put it, in the remainder of Arab Palestine.

    And bear in mind that the actual incident that triggered the uprising was a rampage involving at least 800 Israeli settlers in and around the al-Aqsa mosque, the third holiest site in Islam, beating pilgrims and destroying Palestinian shops, all without any interference from the nearby Israeli security forces. The rioting was clearly allowed and even encouraged by the government.

    Drawing on my experience as a former on-the-ground intelligence officer, I am somewhat convinced that this was likely more like a false flag operation rather than a case of institutional failure on the part of the Israelis.

    Gaza Strikes Back. It’s Another 9/11 or Pearl Harbor but Who Actually Did What to Whom? “This Was More Likely a False Flag Operation”

    #144837
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    You go gramma! You go, girl, …

    https://news.sky. com/story/we-can-certainly-afford-two-wars-us-treasury-secretary-says-12985335

    F.S.

    #144838
    Red
    Participant

    “we-can-certainly-afford-two-wars-us-treasury-secretary-says”
    Until you can’t!

    #144986
    Polemos
    Participant

    kultsommer, I appreciate your perspective and note politely that were I to follow your observation that I could have posted a better comment instead of telling an artist that I would have liked it better —this being the worst thing I can say to an artist— had he did things differently, I would not have solicited either your own demonstration of the value of expressing our preferences for things to happen other than as someone performed nor oxymoron’s own acknowledgement that he kinda agreed with my observation upon his own reflection of the performance. I could think of really awful and demeaning things that might feel worse, being a philosophy student taught me how, but I went with embarrassing myself instead and I appreciate how you help me to see why.

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