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    Botticelli The Calumny of Apelles 1495     Dr. D again: “Russia is going to crush the whole West. But that’s not Russia’s fault: the entire
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    #104398
    Mr. House
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    I agree with Dr. D’s sentiment. It’s even playing out in the West if you think about it. Since 2008 .gov has become an ever larger share of the countries GDP. As .gov begins to consume more and more of our economic output it selects the winners and the losers. Which goes to explain the urban vs. rural divide. Since 2008 .gov has lavished the university system by taking on all debt of the students they brainwash with “good” thinking. Since 08 and certainly before .gov has become an ever larger portion of the healthcare industry. Since 08 .gov has financed the tech bubble by essentially making money for connected people free with super cheap loans. Where does all this money end up? In the cities where most of these people and institutions are located. People that work in cities generally are paper pushers. They have endless meetings that accomplish nothing and many of the jobs accomplish nothing. And since these people get endless cash from .gov they assume it is because of merit and they must be better then those “deplorables”. Is the divide between the two regions beginning to make sense? And why they seem to be polar opposites? I think it even fits in with what we’ve read the past few weeks with regards to insider money and outsider money when thinking of Russia and China making their moves to displace the dollar now. Urban= insider money and rural= outsider money. Which also explains why you see such a difference between the two on covid (benefits healthcare and megacorps ala insider money) and the Ukraine.

    #104399
    DarkMatter
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    Excellent description by Dr. D.
    I thought to post a link to Sting’s I hope the Russians love their children too..
    The problem is regardless of Russian desires the rulers of the west don’t want peace. They may say they do but they never negotiate in good faith which is a prerequisite for peace. There is too little power and money in peace and too much of it to be got in war. The companion song should be “I wish the west loved their children more than power and money.” But they seemingly don’t and it may be the death of us all.

    #104400
    straightwalker
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    Excellent, Raul! Thank you for bringing us Dr D and Botticelli, a similar light in each.

    #104401
    anninvancouver
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    brilliant analysis – totally agree

    #104402
    Red
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    Great summary Dr. D, and Mr House the GDP thing never made any sense to me. If .gov spending goes up it’s good for the GDP. How’s that again? Spending more than you’re taking in is a good thing? More prisons and more sick people is a good indicator of what? .gov employees can get under my skin sometimes when complaining about all the taxes they are paying, at some point I’ll have had enough and just shoot back with “you don’t pay any tax, you give some back”. You can usually see the hamster wheels winding up, I just walk away at that point.

    #104403
    Professorlocknload
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    Can’t help but wonder what Thucydides would say about the West’s frantic death throes these days?

    #104404
    Maxwell Quest
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    I would like to see Dr. D’s analysis cross-posted on every alt-media site by the end of the day. Make it so Number One!

    This is currently a war to control humanity’s hearts and minds, as much as it is to control the world’s natural resources. That has been my battlefield for the past few years, just as it’s been for many others who visit TAE. From where I sit we are winning this battle. If you compare where we were one year ago with where we are today, you will come to the same conclusion.

    With that in mind, I can’t help but wonder when they plan on throttling the entire internet, which has been our greatest weapon in this battle?

    #104405
    Dr D Rich
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    Once again it’s D’s overly constipated style.
    What’s wrong with constipation!
    I enjoy it everyday.

    Yet, D doesn’t see “it” either, that is, the next chess move for the U.S. to counter Russia.

    Take Saudi Arabia…
    and see how much Putin’s Russis is motivated to defend their homeland and natural resources on the Arabian peninsula. Not I think.

    Or observe how much Xi Jinping’s Sino-inscrutability protects its trading partner King Abdulaziz Al Asad. Not at all I’ll wager.

    So the central thesis is, can my country’s lunatic leaders only be motivated by their jealousy of Putin’s and Xi’s bonafides, balls and all-around chutzpah? Maybe there is something about being led by ladies, gays and effeminate men that brings about a challenge from our stated enemies.

    #104407
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Red

    My fav are the people who work in higher education and also want the debt they piled on to the students to pay their overly high salaries, forgiven. Not understanding they are the cause of all that debt.

    #104412

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    #104413
    Oroboros
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    “We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”

    —Solzhenitsyn

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    #104415
    Germ
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    An appropriate listen:

    #104418
    Germ
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    #104419
    Germ
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    #104420
    Michael Reid
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    Thank you for the clear analysis.

    So the West is being jabbed to death, plus now sanction related economic destruction and starvation to follow. And maybe no one wants our money anymore. Is this like one of those bombs where only the people disappear.

    #104421
    zerosum
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    NATO IS OBSOLETE.
    MAKE PEACE.

    Therefore, the riffraf want gov. to spend 2% of GDP on feeding refugees that resulted from spending 2% on guns.

    #104422
    Veracious Poet
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    The West (NATO, U$ Empire Inc., et al.) have devolved into the Empire of the Child…

    Emotionally & mentally disturbed children engage in “magical” thinking to fantasize about a an alt. reality where all of their wishes, hopes & dreams come true, as they age without “maturing” they break the Natural Rule of Law, ie harming others, to achieve the goals of their self-centered trances, becoming takers that have less & less propriety for normal, healthy thinking>behavior.

    The Empire of the Child has been led into a certifiable state of Mass Psychosis Formation, placing dissembling spin above fact-based reality ~ This is now clearly to seen, comprehended & realized by non-western powers (China, Russia, India, Brazil, Middle East, et al.)…

    Unfortunately, for all of humanity, western civ still delusionally believe they are of the same stock that turned the tide in WWII, when in fact they couldn’t even win a conventional war vs. opiate farming sheep herders.

    Real reality is that only non-conventional weapons (nukes, bio/chem weapons) allow the The Powers That Be aka Too Big To Fail to be illusioned that they can play Global Police Bullies on the geo-political playground, leading to all sorts of insanely corrupt thinking & behavior that has firmly placed western civ in the wrong, creating adversity where there should be none…

    There are other games afoot, especially against western civ’s own populations, which may also be part & parcel of the sanctions that will rain ruin upon the “special” people, but TPTB/TBTF will always point to an external boogeyman to distract from the actual goals of the “owners” that have been publicly telegraphed for 50+ years now, but a society in Mass Psychosis will fail to recognize the threats, fantasizing with their “magical” thinking that it can’t happen to them, always someone else will suffer.

    Unicorns & rainbows with skittles in-every-pot, forever without end…

    Real reality is about to cra$h the party.

    #104424
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Note: Not everyone in the West is lost to Mass Psychosis Formation, just like some children don’t have to be taught not to lie, cheat & steal, but most do…

    A handful of Us have been Enlightened by The Infinite, surviving behind the lines in a predatory, indeed suicidal culture (CULT).

    There are also many that could be led back to sanity, but thus far the propagation of going-along-to-get-along hasn’t created enough disparity to produce “sane” leaders to push back against “The Narrative”, but the pain is about to be heaped upon western civilization ~ The “owners” are anticipating the emergence of “real reality”, which is why communications have become throttled by the “CULT”…

    With that said, no nation state in history has ever survived “multiculturalism” 😐

    I’m not talking about race, creed, color or religion ~ I’m talking about a unified culture in America that as a majority hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    Everyone sees & knows, that other than pandering lies, that is not America’s culture in 2022…

    Some of us have known it for decades, but were ignored, labeled as conspiracy theorists, racists et al. & finally cancelled for telling the truth ~ Some of us just gave up.

    #104427
    chooch
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    There are six things with Allah for the martyr. He is forgiven with the first flow of blood (he suffers), he is shown his place in Paradise, he is protected from punishment in the grave, secured from the greatest terror, the crown of dignity is placed upon his head—and its gems are better than the world and what is in it—he is married to seventy-two wives among the wide-eyed houris (Ar. اثْنَتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ زَوْجَةً مِنَ الْحُورِ الْعِينِ) of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his close relatives.

    (No popcorn in paradise)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

    #104428
    Bill Roope
    Participant

    Really nice post. At least to me, it stated the situation perfectly.

    Russia is deprived of McDonalds, Facebook, CNN and the financialization surcharge.
    Sells all its oil, wheat and gas to China at a discount which is still higher than the global price before the war started. Buys whatever it needs from China.

    China knows clearly that if the west does take down Russia and get access to Russia’s raw materials it will be the next target for destabilization and exploitation. And does what it needs to do.

    Europe losses oil, gas and wheat etc. Only choice, come a begging to Russia or hope America can help.

    Part of America will be OK if it gets its mind right. There is lots of good land, raw materials and strong people that can make and grow things. Especially, there are a lot of people that can do damage control, improvise and survive maybe even thrive in chaos.

    Japan, has wonderful social cohesion and great ability to rebuild after disasters, but way too many people for its resource base. If the ships and planes ever stop coming, that’s all she wrote. Japan’s population now is roughly 4 times what it was when Japan was totally self sufficient 170 or so years ago. And, its people are no longer mostly small hardy farmers with some merchants and warriors.

    Okinawa will just be happy if the American military finally goes home.

    #104429
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Every word thoughtfully chosen. Thank you for bringing it all TOGETHER, Dr. D.

    Hat-tip Ilargi for headlining this insight.

    LOVE to all.

    #104441
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Yes, the sentences are terrible. I have too much to say and not enough time this week to trim it down.

    The next questions are upcoming. The financial attack = zero. Huge chunk of the world is shut off, all profits bonds and flows stop, No substantial change in the West financial system. Russia delivers stunning evidence to the UN Security Council. Nothing. Hunter laptop confirmed real, confirmed involved Joe “The Big Guy” in Ukraine and China specifically. Nothing. 40% increase in youth death. De nada. 4-fold increase in gas prices? Who cares? Powell hikes and promises 7 more? Yawn.

    There is nothing that can happen – nothing – that can lift the hypnosis of our culture. As clearly death has not, I don’t see why hunger should. Does Russia need to nuke us to get our attention? Make us behave seriously? I simply do not know.

    We’re so childish, magical, and psychotic, we think we’re ready to attack China at the same time: “How the U.S. can take advantage of the Russia-Ukraine war to defang China” –MSNBC

    As to counter-moves, first, there is a rumor Russia discovered that the gold they had ready for this financial war WAS STOLEN, shipped overseas on lease-loans for couple extra bucks by their own Russian traders. And they are now in Upper Siberia. That would be a dangerous blow if true, but such is war.

    Next, yes, they are trapped as Turkey surprisingly is against Russia, blocking the straits or threatening to. Syria is somewhat far away. China is an ally, but are they trustworthy? Will they act when they must, when Russia needs?

    And I don’t know we will attack Saudi because Saudi Arabia has no oil. Gawar was at a +90% water cut even 10 years ago and their other fields are as old. That’s why they’re attacking Yemen, a war which is failing and so they can’t pump there either, not even hypothecate the drill holes they can’t make. But the point stands. As Ukraine and Syria had a sudden and miraculous uprising the minute they didn’t side slavishly FOR the West, who is looking for a new miraculous uprising today?

    I’m not sure, because I think they’re too busy. They also seem to have thought their plans would work and they have nothing to fear except to play long and maintain pressure. I wouldn’t want to give them a lot of time though. Their minds are turned to murder and starting new war every minute of every day, and as Biden just showed, think nothing of blowing $800M to start one while ever more citizens live in tents at home. And although poorly supplied right now, that won’t last long. Food can be shipped, leaving America hungry, and weapons can be made and multiplied. There’s a time window where the West must crack or they will wear out Russia’s initiative.

    But Russia cannot back down, even if they must start WWIII. The West and NATO will not let them.

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