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Mr. Roboto wrote: 90It needs to be said that a lot of these people go on to have some pretty serious health-challenges, from either post-viral syndrome or damage done by persistant internal blood-clots.”
I’ve seen anecdotal stuff in MSM “features” but no real studies at this point. In fact, as I posted yesterday, the “long Covid” fears in kids has been pretty much found to have been much ado about nothing, as per an article in the NYT. Not saying this kind of thing does not happen–it also happens with regular flus and infections–but I’m not convinced thatit is “a lot of these people” and how serious or long-lasting these reported health challenges are.
@ Timbuk: Have more than 50% of the people you know come down with Covid symptoms of any kind? If not, that might be proof that most people don’t get the virus? (Seeing as how most of the science now says masks are basically theater and lockdowns are ineffective at best.) I believe there has also been evidence presented that a good chunk of the population is not very susceptible to Covid-19 due to something about T-cells. Also prior exposure to similar earlier viruses. Although I will be the first to admit there is so much conflicting evidence out there that some of these claims are hard to verify. However, I can report that most of the people I know who tested positive had no or mild symptoms. Thankfully, nobody I know personally has died, and the deaths I am aware of are “friends of friends” or further removed than that.
I certainly would prefer not to come down with the virus, but especially now that I have some medicinal compounds in my cupboard, I am not living in fear. I just hope something more deadly is not in the offing any time soon…
“Ashrai live for hundreds of years and will come up to the surface of the water once each century to bathe in the moonlight which they use to help them grow.
“It is proven that the steel of the fish farm cages draws many ashrai to the surface, with only one result: they melt.”
It warned that male fishermen would be in danger as the fairies “will attempt to lure him with promises of gold and jewels into the deepest part of the ocean to drown or simply to trick him”.
I don’t see these claims as being any more fantastical than our beliefs in endless oil, techno-salvation, Elon Musk on Mars, ceaseless money-printing, or the origins and effects of Covid-19. In fact these days I would put my money on the fairies.
“Love hearing that everyone you know who got COVID only had mild symptoms. Good for you. For myself – I know someone young and healthy who died and have a cousin recovering from a heart transplant after COVID. Forgive me if I take all of this pretty seriously.”
I think the vast majority of comments on TAE over this Covid time have never gone to that “Covid is a hoax” place. While some of the links (original and from commenters) are of dubious quality, very few have claimed it to be a hoax along with 9-11, the moon landings, and the Newtown CT killings.
I would imagine just as many now can say they know someone who died of the vaccine as those who can say they know a “young healthy person” who died of Covid. The few times I’ve heard someone claim this, upon further inquiry it is always someone they know who knows someone whose cousin died. And no real way to know if they had undiagnosed diabetes or a heart problem along with vitamin D deficiency etc.
Children With Covid Inflammatory Syndrome May Overcome Most Serious Symptoms
A small study found that six months after hospitalization, most children with MIS-C did not have debilitating health issues.So even the extremely extremely rare case of kids being impacted by Covid is… not a big deal. The teeny tiny percentage of the afflicted quickly recovers. But what the hell, lets vaccinate every last one of them in case they have to hug Joe Biden. Makes sense to me.
Germ wrote: FYI – as well as buying IVM from Kachhela, I’ve also been able to get HCQ, Doxycycline, Dexamethasone tabs, Azithromycin, Budesonide inhalers and Fluvoxamine tabs.
I just got my Ivm order, very quick. I did not see most of the other stuff mentioned on the site.
IIRC, John D. recommended against Doxy.
I don’t want to start a complete pharmacy, but after listening to the full McCoullough interview, I guess I should get another goodie or two in my cabinet. Right now I have zinc, Vit D and tons of IVM. Of all the other stuff you list, what would be a good compliment to have on hand for a possible resurgence this fall? I am leaning toward Budesonide inhaler. Also, what kind of dosages and therefore quantities should I be ordering per person supply?Thanks.
I think we should rename our little visitor “General Faucci’s Chef Special GOF Wuhan NanoNoodles with Special MUSA Sauce”.
I read that we are not only sending in the FBI and CIA and no doubt many other letters, but we are going to use massive super computing to try to figure out if the SARs virus that had its epicenter in Wuhan, where there was a lab experimenting with GoF on SARs viruses, came from said lab. Where is Sherlock when you need him?
Re: is Ivermectin the new Penicillin?
Question for J.D. Is it possible Ivermectin’s effectiveness will eventually be compromised like Penicillin due to indiscriminate use? I now have a nice stash courtesy of Kachhela. Got to me almost exactly 2 weeks from date of order! Now, what to do with my apple-flavored horse paste….
Specifically, if one starts taking it as a prophylactic, can it lose effectiveness? How long should it be taken strictly as a preventative? (And if you should still catch Covid while taking it, you just go to the medicinal dosage?) And probably not necessary in the summer?
Anyway, very glad to have something since I will not be getting the vaccine. Though I will still have to deal with the craziness of being labeled an anti-vaxxer.
The New York Times is in such a clueless fantasyland it is amazing. Just about every story on the front page is B.S.
Big Setbacks Propel Oil Giants Toward a ‘Tipping Point’
From Houston to The Hague, environmentalists, fund managers and investors won battles against influential fossil fuel companies this week.
The victories opened new fronts in a growing effort to force the world’s coal, oil and gas companies to address their role in the climate crisis
You think lockdowns were a drag? Good luck trying to stop oil. Don’t worry, your wish will arrive soon enough,when we can’t afford to squeeze it from the earth any longer. “We have the technology. We just need the political will.” Uh huh. Thanks Al Gore. And thanks for inventing the Internet, which conservatively uses about 420 Terawatt hours per year (terrawatt being 10 to the power of 12)..
‘What Do I Do Next?’: Orphaned by Covid, Two Teens Find Their Way
Fear. Keep it going. Highlight the rare that makes your case and makes people afraid.Eager Teens Give Needed Boost to U.S. Vaccination Campaign
More than 2.5 million tweens and teens have gotten their first shot, making up about a quarter of all new vaccinations in recent weeks.Covid-19 risk in your area ›
Dutchess County, N.Y., is at a high risk. Your risk is minimal if you are vaccinated. ›
Finally went down from Extremely High just recently. So helpful! Science!Covid’s Deadliest Phase May Be Here Soon
A new, more transmissible variant could devastate countries without vaccines
We’re good, “eager” kids are lining up. Now we can do our famous generous American schtick and start worrying about all the people that can’t get a vaccine. Especially since they could be breeding grounds for worse disease, according to The Science..Why Are So Many of My Fellow Health Workers Unvaccinated?
Medicine must address vaccine holdouts among us. Here’s how.
And firefighters, and cops. Ie, “frontline heroes.” I guess they’ve seen enough…to not want to get the vaccine. Hmmmm. Not good optics. Maybe they will get a special lottery?Paul Krugman
The Economy Is Spinning Its Wheels, and About to Take Off
Economists as a whole are fairly worthless. But Krugman is a special kind of idiot.I can’t comment on the actual content, as I do not have a subscription and it is not as easy as it once was to get around the paywall.
One other crazy thing about the Lotto vaxxes– taxpayers in the states running these are essentially paying for giant ad promotionals for the vaccine makers. Absolutely nuts. Obviously required some collusion between government officials and pharma–would make a good expose if we had any journalists left.
Autocorrect must have put that apostrophe in the second “its.” I would never do that! Damn driverless keyboards!
Re Couple on a bench. If this is Street Photography, I guess the woman’s expression and pose would be read as “Oh, hello there random photographer sneaking up behind me at night as I was about to make out with my lover on this beautiful Paris evening while perfectly made up to highlight my incredible beauty! Don’t you love the way my paramour’s hair blends into his fur collar and the way this little streetlight hits my cheekbones just right?” Or maybe it’s a highly staged photo shoot posing as street photography. Either way, nice photo. Mainly because the woman is beautiful and there is slight drama or mystery created by the man having his back to us.
Re Vaccine Lotteries. Right, take your chances on a vaccine! It reminds me of being a child and getting a lollipop after visiting the doctor or dentist. Dog trainers use treats very effectively to get the correct behaviors from their charges.
Re Inhaled nanobodies. Good news. Now we not only have virus lab leaks to be concerned with, but the possibility that our DNA can be manipulated via aerosol spray. Maybe we should be worrying about those jet contrails….
Re the BBee humor. I find most of their stuff to be a bit too heavy-handed. They lack the slightly off-kilter approach perfected by The Onion, It’s not bad, it’s hit you over the head approach can be entertaining. Maybe an analogy would be Benny Hill vs. Monty Python.
@ Dark Matter wrote: I will add that for me the best outcome is to take ivermectin prophylactically which will minimize the spike proteins from either source. I called a doctor from the list on FLCCC and they gave me a 6 month prescription along with a note for my employer giving me a medical exemption from being ‘vaccinated’.
According to my tracking info, my package from India landed at the USPS in New York City on 5/24. Hopefully on its way up river to me and will arrive by the weekend. What is the FLCCC list? Interested as a back-up plan.
@ Dr. P This, from the link to that “article” aka letter to editor: The number of Americans who died after taking covid vaccines is already in the thousands, and realistic estimates put that number at tens of thousands (with more dying each day).”
C’mon. Even our terrible leaders and news media couldn’t prevent widespread knowledge of this–people you know would be dropping dead.
I am willing to believe the vaccines may cause unforeseen problems down the road. But I am also a bit taken aback at how gleefully we are looking for evidence that the vaccinated are f*#@!ed. Can we reign in some of the speculation? If only so TAE doesn’t get cancelled?;^)
British/UK variant. Ok.
South Africa variant. Sure.
India variant(s). Yes, yes.
Brazil variant. Uh huh.
China virus. Oh, no. NO NO NO NO NO!
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Someone please educate me on this.Thanks!I’m sure the NYT does not see the irony in the juxtaposition of these headlines (can’t read stories, free article limit reached.)
Sema Sgaier
Meet the Four Kinds of People Holding Us Back From Full Vaccination
Tell us where you live and we’ll show you why people aren’t getting vaccinated.
Children of the Holocaust Who Are Anonymous No More
Researchers using enhanced, rare footage of a transport to a Nazi death camp have been able to identify some passengers, including children who survived.(Love the implicit “we” opposing the “us” in that first headline. Obviously everyone who reads the Times is vaccinated.)
And proving that they are in techofantasy lala land, right above those two stories on the front webpage:
Nations Must Drop Fossil Fuels, Fast, World Energy Body Warns
A landmark report from the International Energy Agency says countries need to move faster and more aggressively to cut planet-warming pollution.@John Day Thank you. The 1x a week prophylactic is for my immune compromised sister, correct? I was not planning to take it prophylactically unless there was an outbreak or I was going into some situation. Question–if you take it prophylactically, does its effectiveness diminish over time?
Question for John D.
As per the Princess ship early on, and statements that Covid only gets bad in about 20% of population, (and then morbidity only if you have underlying and/or old). If Ivermectin is 80% effective in prophylactic or early stages, wouldn’t that mean basically anything is effective in those stages for the non-20% (which may or may not be related to blood type).?
I keep asking because when some of the Ivermectin proponents make statements that people are willingly killing their children if they have them vaccinated and many other unproven statements, it really makes me hesitate to put my faith in it. Note that I did order quite a bit, also have horse paste on hand if I should come down with something in the meantime.
The no mask for the vaccinated is just another pressure ploy to increase the vaccination count and at the same time, as pointed out, make it seem perfectly logical to have vaccine passports. And don’t expect sympathy or understanding from the vaxxed.
So ridiculously stupidly un-“scientific” and false. I will be forced to wear a mask at work, while everyone else does not have to–yet if I worked in the Yankee dugout, I would be almost guaranteed to get Covid–from a vaxxed coach or player. This just furthers my resolve that they are so blatantly full of bs. Holy crap.
Here’s the way it is: You are vaccinated. Hurray! Now you don’t have to worry about anything other than getting hit by the proverbial bus. I am not vaccinated. I will take my chances, and I will stay home if I feel ill or have a temp.Even if I were asymptomatic (perhaps the high rate was more about high PCR cycles?) you would not be susceptible to falling sick. Unless your vaccine is running out. Better mask up!
@Mister Roboto wrote: “…if the only thing the Covid vaccines can promise is a significantly reduced likelihood of experiencing severe Covid symptoms, I’m at a loss to understand how this would lead to herd immunity.”
No need to understand, since it is not happening. NY Yankees, with over 85% vaccinated, have “clubhouse immunity” yet now report 7 covid cases among coaching and staff (tested multiple times presumably with the current lower cycle PCR so probably legit). It would seem that transmission by those vaccinated, since most often asymptomatic, would be more damaging than spread by those who are unvaccinated, who will typically stay home when they get symptoms. Some details:
…It was also confirmed by Boone that pitching coach Matt Blake has joined third base Phil Nevin and first base coach Reggie Willits as members of the coaching staff testing positive for the virus. A couple additional staff members had positive tests confirmed on Wednesday, bringing the total there to four.
Six of the seven are asymptomatic. All are fully vaccinated.
“We’re seeing the vaccinations also kind of blunt the effects of the virus,” Boone said. “We’re also learning as we go and getting informed as what we need to do exactly and just try to do as best we can to be able to make quick adjustments on the fly. Just doing the best we can with it all.”
The Yankees on April 30 were able to relax MLB protocols after reaching an 85 percent vaccination rate among players and staff such as managers, coaches and athletic trainers.
@madamski wrote: Fauci will find his doom in his own way. He’s such a maverick! 😉 He said, “We have not funded gain of function research on this virus in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
Probably true. They funded it elsewhere, I’m sure, and I bet that Germ will soon produce evidence of this for us.
“I have never had a single positive doping test, and I do not take performance-enhancing drugs.”
“I have never doped. I can say it again, but I’ve said it for seven years.”
“How many times do I have to say it? … Well, it can’t be any clearer than ‘I’ve never taken drugs.'”
“If you’re trying to hide something, you wouldn’t keep getting away with it for 10 years. Nobody is that clever.”A few choice quotes from Lance Armstrong, in the years prior to being stripped of his seven Tours de France victories. People who become inveterate liars often seem completely comfortable with it, possibly due to narcissistic personality traits that allow them to rationalize the lying.
From NYT front web page:
The Race Is On to Vaccinate America’s Nearly 17 Million Younger TeensThe F.D.A.’s authorization of Pfizer’s Covid shot for 12- to 15-year-olds is a milestone, but actually getting them vaccinated involves new challenges.
Thanks @phoenixvoice for the ransomware rundown.
Meanwhile @John Day, any further thoughts on the situation in India, reports of much more contagious more deadly variants? Or are we essentially seeing the results of crowded living conditions? Do these virus mutations contain the possibility of making Ivermectin less effective,perhaps to the point of useless?
Interesting newsletter from NYT that I generally do not read, but CDC and Misleading caught my eye this morning. Here is the intro, the rest is about how the CDC might have arrived at the figure. But the news for us would be the NYT “questioning” the “facts.” I guess they are feeling spunky now that they are all jabbed up over at The Gray Lady.
Good morning. We have a special edition of the newsletter on a misleading C.D.C. statistic.
A Miami Beach officer confronting a man without a mask last year.Saul Martinez for The New York Times
‘A huge exaggeration’When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released new guidelines last month for mask wearing, it announced that “less than 10 percent” of Covid-19 transmission was occurring outdoors. Media organizations repeated the statistic, and it quickly became a standard description of the frequency of outdoor transmission.
But the number is almost certainly misleading.
It appears to be based partly on a misclassification of some Covid transmission that actually took place in enclosed spaces (as I explain below). An even bigger issue is the extreme caution of C.D.C. officials, who picked a benchmark — 10 percent — so high that nobody could reasonably dispute it.
That benchmark “seems to be a huge exaggeration,” as Dr. Muge Cevik, a virologist at the University of St. Andrews, said. In truth, the share of transmission that has occurred outdoors seems to be below 1 percent and may be below 0.1 percent, multiple epidemiologists told me. The rare outdoor transmission that has happened almost all seems to have involved crowded places or close conversation.
Saying that less than 10 percent of Covid transmission occurs outdoors is akin to saying that sharks attack fewer than 20,000 swimmers a year. (The actual worldwide number is around 150.) It’s both true and deceiving.
This isn’t just a gotcha math issue. It is an example of how the C.D.C. is struggling to communicate effectively, and leaving many people confused about what’s truly risky. C.D.C. officials have placed such a high priority on caution that many Americans are bewildered by the agency’s long list of recommendations. Zeynep Tufekci of the University of North Carolina, writing in The Atlantic, called those recommendations “simultaneously too timid and too complicated.”
They continue to treat outdoor transmission as a major risk. The C.D.C. says that unvaccinated people should wear masks in most outdoor settings and vaccinated people should wear them at “large public venues”; summer camps should require children to wear masks virtually “at all times.”
These recommendations would be more grounded in science if anywhere close to 10 percent of Covid transmission were occurring outdoors. But it is not. There is not a single documented Covid infection anywhere in the world from casual outdoor interactions, such as walking past someone on a street or eating at a nearby table.
Today’s newsletter will be a bit longer than usual, so I can explain how the C.D.C. ended up promoting a misleading number.
Re: A Woman’s Work. I lived in a five-story walk-up on Amsterdam Avenue and 106th Street all through my 20s and 30s. While I love to line-dry my clothes now that I Iive in the Hudson Valley, the soot from buses back then would have spoiled the wash. You can almost smell the fresh sunshine, but also there is an ominous quality, the way the figure is leaning out over the dark shaftway.
Re: Colonial Hack.
I have only read about these types of ransomware attacks that the bandits download “sensitive information” that they then threaten to release. I can see this in regard to companies with credit card, ss# ,banking info, medical records, or “classified” info. What sort of “sensitive” documents would a pipeline company have? Or is my speculation that they could somehow operate the valves via taking control of the software correct? And if so, is there not a manual override? I could see the answer being no, there is not. I’ve had to replace the motor in my car’s electric windows to get them to go up and down. Anyone care to speculate on the specifics of how this ransomware is operating in this case?This Dark Side group claims a Robin Hood style motive–though in a modern update, they only give a certain cut to charity. (Do the ransomware victims get to choose their favorite charity?) Whether or not this is true, there are of course other bad actors whose objectives may not be ransom but destruction of critical infrastructure as the main goal.
Re: the 5-15x higher death rate in Goa.
As reported in a link here yesterday. Higher than what? Is that figure gotten by dividing the total# of cases by deaths? How do they even get the total # of cases in the chaos over there at the moment? Or are we seeing yet another, more deadly, variant? I note the Ivermectin dosage is increasing–does this mean it will be rendered ineffective at some point due to the virus adapting? Nevertheless, I have a couple tubes of horse paste while I await my order from India Mart and Kachhela Medex Private Limited, Nagpur, which seems to be the vendor of choice here on TAE. (Please correct me if I am wrong)@madamski wrote: Meanwhile, this is relevant: Kalamazoo River oil spill
Meaning the hackers could somehow cause the pipeline to rupture or overflow? Possible. And plenty of spills have happened on the Colonial pipeline itself. But generally this has been gasoline or other distillates, because that is the preponderance of what these pipes carry–gasoline and jet fuel from Texas refineries to airports and gasoline storage along the East Coast–45% of the Northeast supply of gasoline. These spills are bad, obviously, but easier to clean up than the heavier tar sands crude coming down from Canada in the Kalamazoo pipeline.
“Law 4: Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.”
In this little make-believe universe, of course, Law 4 would appear to make non-stupid people the stupidest dumbasses of all.
The real scary news is not that the sky is falling, but that criminal hackers can take over something like the Colonial pipeline. Who knows exactly what is going on. But the main issue would be they must somehow have control of the software that controls the various valves.
At the very least, opening these at the wrong times can mix various petroleum products, causing them to be worth nothing. So you shut it down to avoid destroying all your product. And you keep it shut down until you can unhack the hack. Or you pay the ransom.
Joseph Tainter’s Collapse of Complex Societies comes immediately to mind. Discussing with a friend, he imagines there have already been many of these, we just do not hear about them. I would agree. But this takes it to another level, as they previously they have mostly been unable to keep it from the public eye. Bad indeed is this one. More problematic than a haywire compass (Chapeau Django.)
Once again bringing a wet blanket to the party. Tell me again why we are discussing or worried about a potential reversal of the magnetic field? Unlike say, the questions around Covid-19–should we take the vaccine? Does Ivermectin work? How about Vitamin D?–there is A. no evidence that this will happen any time soon. B. There is zero to be done if it is about to happen. C.Isn’t there enough unsettling stuff to keep track of ? D. It colors everything else with the same broad Chicken Little sky is falling doomsday brush. As does the repeating that vaccine adverse reactions are reported at 1%, giving license to multiply the death rate by 100. Continually searching for bad news about the vaccine may not be the best use of resources. If something major does go wrong, you will know, because your neighbor, friend, or family member will be affected. I am pretty certain more people know of someone who has died of Covid than those who know someone who has died after taking a vaccine.
The commenters on TAE strike me as above average in intelligence. It also strikes me that in general we have personalities that are more than willing to question authority, and that our eyes have been opened to a degree about how things operate–our energy supplies and systems, corporations, the government,various other entities–that leave us highly suspicious. It also might make us more prone to err in the other direction, including extrapolating various motives and proclaiming imminent doom. I know it is something I like to keep tabs on regarding my own beliefs.
For some reason, a bunch of the latest images posted are not showing up, I can only see the alt text line. Also, Germ, the must see video you posted in today’s earlier post has been removed by some entity or another –did not get a chance to watch it unfortunately.
Someone earlier asked who the bicycle frame builder was that came up with ATMO — According To My Opinion. That would be Richard Sachs, of Connecticut. I no longer ride bicycles that can only take very skinny tires–although he does make cyclocross bikes, his main thing is racing bicycles. I believe there is a multi-year wait to get one of his frames. I never met him, but one of my good friends and old racing buddies chatted him up a few times not long ago at races on the local cyclocross circuit. Quite a character.
My absolute galore handle had madamski thinking I was female. I think she may have been thinking more this. It is fairly straightforward in how I chose it, to describe the complete and utter abundance of stuff, things we are surrounded by.in most of the Western world as that phrase is understood. But I like the absoluteness of absolute, and the bargain basement goriness of galore. So there ya go.
Bill, you’re welcome. I did mention that specifically for you. I like Cayley’s writing and I am looking forward to a whole nuther dimension of Illich with his new book.
Got two tubes of my apple flavored equine Ivermectin, 6.08 grams a piece, so 12 doses for moi. Thank you, Tractor Supply! They also had big containers of Ivermectin to apply topically to cows, and a few different brands of the paste, some of which had other medications mixed in. For a second I was confused by one of the warnings on the back: Do not use in horses intended for human consumption.” Huh? I thought it was for horses, not humans…then I remembered: panda eats shoots and leaves. Ew.
I’m actually liking the idea of having a stash of horse medicine rather than illicitly gotten human pills from India. It has a bit more of the survivalism vibe to it, catch-as-catch-can. With summer coming, I don’t plan to take it prophylactically unless we get a rash of cases locally, but I now feel better, at least in terms of actions to protect my health, if not dealing with the social and potential employment ramifications. (Saw a news brief where the owner of the Buffalo Bills NFL football team said he would consider cutting players who are not vaccinated.)
Maybe I will understand it better when I go pick it up at the Tractor Supply store later, but the reviewer on the site (with a wink) calculated the dose at .866 grams for a “horse” weighing 170lbs, which, conveniently, is about what I weigh.
But when I do 170/11 I get about 15.5mg, which is .015 grams (which I would not even be able to weigh) as opposed to .866 mg recommended by the reviewer. Does this have to do with the 1.87% mentioned in the description?One reason I want to be careful is this comment from a reviewer: Works just as well as the more expensive brands. The measuring mechanism leaves too much room for error, or this would be 5 stars
Another commenter mentions that his 70lb goats get a “pea size” dose. So maybe I will take 2.5 pea-size doses.
@madamski, thank you for your response and suggestions, much appreciated. And yes, that is essentially my beef with some of the writing, but I understand it is mostly up to us to sift through it.
The funny thing about my conversation with my friend, who is no dummy, was that he was very agitated, while I was extremely calm, even, admittedly, unusually calm during our discussion. He kept saying that people who choose to pick a fight with the vaccines are actually angry about something else, and should look to identify what that might be. In other words, that this idea of freedom of one’s choice was merely an acting out based on some other grievance.
BTW, I “identify” as a he/man. Not that I don’t appreciate my feminine side.
@John Day: That was a typo. ATMO According to My Opinion. This was an early acronym created by a well-known bicycle frame builder back in the day that he used/uses on various bike forums.
Left out the paragraph about herd immunity:
With a growing number of scientists and public health experts concluding that it is unlikely that the country will reach the threshold of herd immunity, the Biden administration has stepped up efforts to reach those who are still hesitant. On Tuesday, the administration announced steps to encourage more pop-up and mobile vaccine clinics and to distribute shots to primary care doctors and pediatricians as well as local pharmacies.
Excerpt from an article in today’s NYT. There is also an article about giving people $100 to get vaccinated, but I could not access. Note that the hesitancy is definitely being linked to failure to reach “herd immunity.”
Poll Shows Parents Are Reluctant to Get Their Children Vaccinated for Covid-19
The new survey also found only 9 percent of adult respondents hadn’t gotten the shot but planned to do so, suggesting the country is nearing the limit of people planning to get immunized.
The American public’s willingness to get a Covid vaccine is reaching a saturation point, a new national poll suggests,
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one more indication that achieving widespread immunity in the United States is becoming increasingly challenging
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Only 9 percent of respondents said they hadn’t yet gotten the shot but intended to do so, according to the survey, published in the April edition of the Kaiser Family Foundation’s Vaccine Monitor. And with federal authorization of the Pfizer vaccine for adolescents ages 12 through 15 expected imminently, the eagerness of parents to let their children be vaccinated is also limited, the poll found.
Overall, slightly more than half of those surveyed said they had gotten at least one dose of the vaccine, a finding that matches data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“We’re in a new stage of talking about vaccine demand,” said Mollyann Brodie, executive vice president of Kaiser’s Public Opinion and Survey Research Program. “There’s not going to be a single strategy to increase demand across everyone who is left. There will be have to be a lot of individually targeted efforts. The people still on the fence have logistical barriers, information needs, and lots don’t yet know they are eligible. Each strategy might move a small number of people to get vaccinated, but all together, that could matter a lot…
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The Pfizer vaccine is expected to be authorized for children ages 12 through 15 within days. Among parents who were surveyed, three in 10 said they would get their children vaccinated right away, and 26 percent said they wanted to wait to see how the vaccine was working. …The responses from parents may well change over time, experts say. Just as adults were far more reluctant last summer when the vaccine was still a concept, parents surveyed several weeks ago, when imminent authorization for children under 16 had not been widely discussed, might also have been reacting to a hypothetical situation rather than a reality.
But pediatricians and others who are seen as trusted sources of information are already aware that they have considerable work to do to instill vaccine confidence in this latest cohort.
Dr. Sean O’Leary, a pediatrician in Denver who is vice chairman of the committee on infectious diseases for the American Academy of Pediatrics, predicted that just as adults had swarmed Covid vaccine providers during the initial weeks of distribution, parents and pent-up young teenagers would rush for it at the start, too.
But Dr. O’Leary, who often gives talks to pediatricians about how to motivate patients to accept vaccinations, worries that a slowdown will inevitably follow. To persuade hesitant parents, he said, “we have to make the vaccine available in as many places as possible.”
He added, “If parents and patients are in the pediatrician’s office and the doctor can say, ‘Hey, I’ve got it,’ that may be enough of a nudge for them to say, ‘Let’s go ahead and do this.’”
Sorry for the multiple posts, but I will feel more comfortable with my decision with some Ivermectin in the cupboard.
forgot to link to the horse paste:
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/durvet-ivermectin-paste-187-608-g
The blurb says Treat your animals with this Durvet Ivermectin 1.87% Horse Wormer Paste.
Does that mean it is 1.87% Ivermectin? It also says Primary Ingredient(s) Ivermectin
Obviously there are some apples in there, too.I’m confused how I should calculate my dose. Does .866 grams sound about right? I’m assuming 1 gram would be fine in that case?
And I realized too, with the horse paste math, the dosage for human weight might be different? Or did that reviewer have the correct info? I am 170lbs and I seem to remember calculating that I would just get the 18mg pills, since a bit more is apparently not a problem, and JD upped the dosage in his last report on this.
John Day wrote: So we know that 81% of us (I think I’m in there and my school librarian wife, too) have enough T-cell memory to endemic coronaviruses to handle this one on a good day, too.
So if I am in the 19%, what then? Obviously not going to just keel over and die (now that would be a pandemic, 20% fatality rate) but I will have a harder time fighting it off, and likely to have more serious symptoms, higher risk of death, long covid? How does this affect my 99.4% chance of not dying as a 60-65 yo male?
I would like to clarify that I am not trying to throw sour grapes here. I would not have made my comments if TAE was not an important resource for my understanding of what is going on, and I deeply appreciate Raul’s efforts (and show what I can when I can financially). I just meant to say IATMO*, some things are far enough out there that they might be better left alone, to give what is here all the more weight.
*According To My OpinionSpeaking of weight, I looked up the horse paste. It’s apple flavored! First three comments under reviews of product:
Does exactly what it’s supposed to and more… excellent anti-inflammatory as well *****
Excellent product overall. Doesn’t taste too bad either *****
Great for what Ivermectin is supposed to be for. Just a reminder for all those who are using this paste.. This is 6 grams for a 1250 lb horse. That would be .0048 grams/lb. IF you had a 170lb horse, you would give that stud .816 grams of this paste.*****
Question for John D: Do you think the paste is finely tuned enough to knock down a dose like this, from 6 grams to .816 grams? In other words, are the manufacturing standards for non-prescription animal medicine high enough to be fairly sure the smaller dosage will be equally distributed in this apple-flavored horse paste? (If nothing else, I am going to buy it while I figure out how to get some pills from India without Paypal.)
To add: I find this comment section also very helpful, and I appreciate the range of opinions, some of which I agree with and some not as much. The tone is almost always helpful and convivial, if sometimes a tad alarmist or conspiratorial. I also enjoy the personalities, even the ones that make me roll my eyes sometimes. (I’m sure I induce some ocular rotation in the orbits now and then as well–Miley C., anyone?;^)
