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Bill7 wrote: The Atlantic article linked above by Dr. D is breathtaking in its question-begging and coercions, from its title right on down, down, down.. along with a dose of quasi hip™-lingo for those possibly on the fence. Imagine having to *write* that duplicitous
stuff.I always prepare for the worst when undertaking to read an article in The Atlantic. But yes, this one is not only bizarre and frightening in its total nonchalance toward a life of constant vaccination (and one assumes a continued separation of the population and continued state medical edicts) but the writing is so hackneyed its like munching on Skittles with a mouth full of cavities. Truly horrendous. I can’t compare it to anything else for fear of being unfair to the writer or publication chosen as a comparison. But of course, you must remember the most important fact about anything Covid related that you read in The Atantic, to be found at the bottom of each article:
The Atlantic’s COVID-19 coverage is supported by grants from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.In other words, Katherine J. Wu is just a crappy PR tech writer flunky for Big Pharma. Confirming The Atlantic’s place at the core of the technosphere’s propaganda division is its ownership by the widow of Steve Jobs.
we had and have a political crisis.
a useless and corrupt political system is just a symptom of overreach and decline. Politics and politicians will not pull us out of this nose dive (though they are certainly among those helping to hold on to the stick pointing us down.) The collapse doe not recognize politics all that much, other than contributing to the debasement of whatever system might be in place.
When you have 70,000 fans, many overweight and well past the minimum age, drinking and screaming in the cold, you will have EMS calls. Simply taking the numerous day to day medical events around the country and the world and screaming Covid Vaccine!! is not going to further your case, to say the least. Please lets not start adding up the vaccine deaths when those same overweight older fans start dying when shoveling out their driveways.
If they had reported Betty White died of Covid, we would have said no, she died of 99.
Why go making assertions that are not provable when there is plenty of more reliable data to chew over and try to parse? It’s this kind of carelessness, along with using terms like overlords and sheeple and vaxxtards that are triggers for the opposition to start shooting–and you’re giving them big fat targets. Just a friendly reminder.
I’m glad to see Raul is optimistic. I hear a number of commentators elsewhere on the internet also talking about a “flip.” I’m skeptical.
The technosphere is too strong at this point, we all rely on it to a mostly greater extent to survive day to day. I don’t think it can be taken down by being dismantled systematically. It will happen over the long descent / long emergency, raggedly and haphazardly. And if we are lucky, we will, some of us, muddle along, hoping the gradient heading down doesn’t get too steep during our lifetimes.
As for the vaccine story, we’ll see. Mass formation doesn’t die easily either. It took defeat in a World War for Germans to begin to shake off their psychosis. A podcast by Joe Rogan and a book by RFK Jr. may not quite do it. There is no real separation between any of the controlling forces at work. Any opposition has been bought and paid for or otherwise defanged and declawed.
The technosphere has also done an outstanding job at making sure popular groundswells are immediately labeled conspiracy theories. Even if the narrative seems to change course–such as that post a few days ago about the under-reporting of the damage done to our children by our handling of covid, it is most often just a co-opting of the narrative, as someone here astutely observed (sorry, can’t remember who that was). It’s kind of like when your favorite classic rock song ends up as the jingle for a Toyota commercial.
That said, I think speaking out about what we know, and staying steady, means a lot. Not just for personal sanity, but as a small island that others around you can swim to if they do start to suspect cracks in the official line. Even just writing a reasoned, Malone-tenored letter to the editor of your local paper in response to the people calling for mandates etc. could be useful. Around here right now, even that small gesture takes some nerve.
I plan to be more vocal in my opposition to the creeping tyranny in 2022. If I lose friends or become persona non grata, so be it. Most who know me already know my position, but there are plenty of others who maybe know of me that I can out myself to. What comes after that, we’ll see. It’s all about muddling through, after all. I do agree that 2022 could definitely see more consequences than your typical year, but doubt there will be much truth in the mix.
I think Deflationista is actually on to something this time. Check out all these antivaxxers.
Here is the dilemma facing the Central Comedy Media, encapsulated in today’s above the fold NYT article:
Vaccines Return to Focus Globally as Omicron Wave Proves Milder
As evidence emerges that Omicron results in fewer hospitalizations and deaths, governments are redoubling vaccination efforts.Re: • The MSM Is Losing The Fight Of Its Life…All Thanks To Joe Rogan (QTR)
So a stand up comedian and martial arts expert is the new Walter Cronkite. Only I imagine he has a bit more leeway than Cronkite ever did. I would say this is actually a very good thing. Certainly better than all the clowns running around on the major networks.
@Veracious — I’m not overly familiar with Tiabbi or his history, but also not sure where the hate on himi is coming from, or how the titles you present make a case against him. I suspect many TAE commenters have made similar shifts, if that’s what you want to call it. I have not read his book about his time in Russia, but I believe it chronicled the years of Russian mafia/oligarch control, pre Putin, and had nothing to do with Russiagate, etc. And while Trump served well as a disrupter of the putrid status quo, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t an insane clown. The way this country has been run the past few decades, I’m not sure how much sense it make to claim to be a proud American. I believe he left his position at Rolling Stone because he was unhappy with the direction that publication was going. Most writers, if they are lucky, make a modest living. I highly doubt Taibbi went in any particular direction based on money or “popularity.” He seems like a sincere person, finding his way through the madness just like the rest of us. I kinda doubt he “sold out,”even if that were a realistic option.
phoenixvoice wrote: I have a couple close friends who respect me enough to occasionally listen, however, all friends that I have shared the information with, and two of my siblings, have rejected it.
Sometimes, it is difficult to discern who the swine are. Once I figure out who they are, I stop casting my pearls before them, as it is a waste of precious resources.
It’s been interesting. I’m trying to take things on a case by case. Family gets the most slack, and very little pushback. Just not going to go anywhere, so why? More important is the relationship of my son with his cousin. Friends, it depends. Even the ones that agree with much of my position often question my ultimate positions on masks and mandates when push comes to shove. Local businesses that require a vaccine passport.? That one’s easy.
The days of just yelling antivaxxer, conspiracy theorists and labeling everybody asking questions as Trumpers or anti science aren’t going to work anymore.
The lies are falling apart, the money connections are being made and the questions are gonna keep coming.
Hope springs eternal. But, reminder: That’s what we thought about the 2008 Great Recession (bankers will be jailed!), Russiagate (Maddow makes a comeback as Mandate Maddow!) Afghanistan withdrawl (remember Afghanistan? So last year.), Hunter Biden’s laptop (hey look, I’m a successful artist now!), Jeffrey Epstein client list (such irresponsible guards.! Let’s put Maxine on suicide watch, too!) etc. etc. etc. Many of the same people involved in earlier debacles are back at the helm, zero consequences. With Big Phat Pharma, Mega-Tentacled Tech, Omnipotent Government, and a kowtowing, lying media to spin the games, this will end with a whimper not a bang. The next bang you hear will be the next global crisis, likely centered around money or (very very big) guns.
boilingfrog wrote: My only concern about it – and hopefully someone can straighten this out – was his inability, with all of his contacts, to know what was in the packages sent to the Indian residents of Utter Pradash.
I watched the whole interview (over the course of a day) and that bit jumped out at me as well. The only answer I can come up with is that he was careful throughout to try to avoid conjecture or stating anything that he did not have solid evidence to support. He probably knows there was ivermectin in the packages, but lacking absolute proof, stayed away from a declarative. Still, a little odd.
D Benton Smith wrote: Betty White’s cause of death is being side-stepped, evaded, euphamised and covered up. . . and there is now only one possible conclusion as to why. She died from the vaccine,..
Or maybe she died from… being 99? Did she just recently get a booster shot? Otherwise, as someone in her late 90s,I assume she was vaccinated and boostered as soon as those options became available. Certainly conceivable that at some point, you get to be too old, and the risk/benefit analysis for taking the vaccine again goes against taking it. So there might be a sweet spot (60-80? 65-75? 71-72.5?) where it makes sense. But even if a booster shot contributed to her demise, whatever a 99 year old died from is never going to be a big news story, even if they are a “celebrity.” May she rest in peace.
TDK — I don’t think citing 35 medical emergencies of one sort or another out of 2.2 billion people taking a flight in 2021 amounts to much. And it just provides fodder for our friend who like to deflate stuff.
I’m about half way through the Rogan/Malone interview. Good stuff. Never actually saw him speak. Also just got a copy of The Real Anthony Fauci from a friend. Heard it was dry but a real indictment, well-documented, too.
Chooch wrote:After reducing the 10 day quarantine period from 10 days to 5 days, today the CDC has quietly reduced it to just 24 hours with no fever!
Maybe Roger Goodell is on the CDS board? We are heading into NFL playoff season, and the stupid Covid protocols are wrecking many of the final games of the season.
It was colder yesterday, but today warmed up just enough to be a day of rain. Oh well. I’m sitting warm and cozy waiting for my 12-year-old to awaken and come downstairs.
My guy must no longer believe in Santa, or he would be up by now. I remember the giddy anticipation, waiting on the stairs in the dark winter morning until the okay was given by mom and dad. That first moment of taking in the Christmas tree, all aglow and overflowing with presents.
For today I will hold that good magic, the magic of the wonder and mystery in the world. I will forgo the dissection of all the bad magic suffocating us. Today is a day where that bit of good magic gets a booster. Merry Christmas everybody. Thank you, Raul.
Raul: No, that is the situation in most countries. Reported vaxx numbers are mostly exaggerated. To shame the unvaxxed.
Maybe they are. Do we have any way of knowing? From my purely anecdotal experience, they are not far off where I am. The unvaxxed are few and far between. I guess I need to make friends with more young black Republicans who have not gone to college.
Yesterday I was chided for making excuses for the “sheeple” by mentioning “dust blowing in the climate change wind.” The comment was an attempt at a humorous way of saying that both any perceived Powers That Be type people and their pitiful Stupid Sheeple type people (neither labels that I find particularly useful) are doomed to the same short life we all enjoy here on planet Earth, and that in any case there is no overarching conspiracy of a small cadre of smart, non-iron fortified superior blue-blooded beings planning the demise of the restuvus. That we will not be saving–or destroying–the planet. Just, over geological time, making our little scratches on it, which in not all that much time–a few hundred thousand or a few million– will be erased as if chalk on a board. We need to get over ourselves. Which of course is not happening with our current DNA.
I don’t put any credence on global conspiracy theories. Nor do I think changes in the climate are our biggest immediate challenge.
Rebranding climate change as resource depletion as suggested by Oroboros yesterday would be an even worse failure. People can pretend to do something about climate change by buying electric cars and solar panels, but tell them there isn’t going to be enough stuff to go around? Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, one of our Fearless Leaders, Dr. Gates, has some news for us–three bad months ahead, but 2023 is looking good!
Bill Gates on Omicron: ‘We could be entering the worst part of the pandemic’From the WSJ article: “A scientific debate over pandemic policy was and still is in the public interest, especially during a once-in-a-century plague.”
If only. But with hundreds of labs around the world where we perform Stupid Human Tricks, nefarious actors could brew up a once-a-week plague without too much difficulty.
I remain somewhat pessimistic that we will be emerging from this mass formation any time soon. Certain players may or may not be going down, but our complete inability to see, admit, or deal with our many shortcomings as a civilization will ensure that one depraved clown is replaced with another, possibly more depraved clown.
Elon Musk is a certified part of this clown troupe, a psychopath charlatan. But we can’t really blame him. Any society set up to even have the possibility of one human being be able to say ” I’m literally paying the most tax that any individual in history has ever paid, this year, ever” gets the steady supply of amoral douche bags to admire, worship, and give power to that it it roundly deserves.
Once again, “TPTB” just like the “sheeple” (two terms that put me a little on edge) will be so much dust blowing in the climate changed winds. In the end, covid is one of the least of our problems. The only real conspiracy is being directed by Mother Earth, y’all.
Re: The vaccinated making up most of the cases.
I love the part when The Expert intones:
This is to be expected, since more and more people are vaccinated.
Huh?! So you’re saying, for example, if 85% of the people in the hospital due to covid are vaccinated, that corresponds to 85% of the local population being vaccinated. Do I have that right?
Exactly! Very good!
Thanks! And what a convenient easy to remember formula!
You’re welcome, I’m sure.*
Math! It’s the New Science!
*Note that in some cases, percentage of vaxxed in the hospital may exceed percentage of vaxxed in the population. We’re not sure why. But be safe, get boosted!
I too applaud phoenixvoice for expressing resistance to this mass psychosis. Chapeau. (And thank you again for your support regarding offspring.)
Even when we know we are in the right, it can be difficult to stand alone against everyone surrounding us. Our wack job interim governor here in NYS instituted the mask mandate a week ago. I was unaware until I went into a friend’s candy shop that day. Later, when my son and I went to the grocery store further up Main Street, they had a sign proclaiming the mandate was in effect. Neither of us had masks. In the past, he had been reluctant to join me in being “disobedient.” This time he did not show any hesitation, and we were the only two unmasked shoppers.
I now make a nod to the mask thing with my bandana tied loosely, worn a la “Joe Biden” style, with it drooping well under my nose. Because everybody knows the virus is not in your nasal passages, preferring instead to nestle between your choppers–Science! Anyway, the mask–thinking of embroidering a more classic version with “Heil Hochul!” But that might be too needlessly provocative since people would read more into it than simply an example of slavish obedience gone (very very) bad.
It was definitely upsetting when my friend declared his bar restaurant vaccine only. And my kid had to go see the new Spiderman movie in town with his mother, because they now require proof of vaccine and photo ID. Come to think of it, that might be a hidden benefit, although he claims the movie was excellent.
Yesterday a close friend texted that he was positive and feeling mild symptoms. He got his third jab over a month ago. His wife, also triple jabbed, is showing symptoms. His social network is reporting many similar stories. Later that day, another good friend, one of the few I’m aware of who is au naturel, called to ask the proper dosage of IVm. I had given him a supply months ago, and he was feeling achey legs with general fatigue and headache and wanting to crawl into bed.
Today he feels much much better, and is on his second day of the five day regimen. At this point in the game, whether that is related to the medication or not, who cares. At least it gives him the feeling that he is doing something.
This all reminds me of the Runny Nose Pandemic of ’87. Remember that? Neither do I. Who would?
Shortly after Trump came down with his case last year, he said something along the lines of Don’t live in fear of this thing. Live your life.
When a guy like Trump is dispensing the most sage and sane advice of virtually any of our leaders, that is all you need to know about the current state of affairs.
Boz wrote: But seriously, who the fuck cares? We were having fun until you turned it into a scholastic trivia contest. Yeesh. Cook your own goddam ham and stay the fuck away from my Xmas dinner, son.
Good god awmighty, is there any trivial thing we won’t niggle each other around here?0That’s precious coming from the king of niggling other commenters. But I’m sad to be disinvited to your Xmas dinner. I was looking forward to being regaled by tales of your barroom prowess. Oh well. I guess I’ll have to make do with your writing workshop submissions here on TAE;^)
Thanks for wiki-schoolin’ me, Boz! And marketing was a by product of the petroleum age, you say? Fascinating. And the way you sussed out my penchant for conspiracies behind everything(!) just by me suggesting soap makers created a desire for their products generically while at the same time pushing their brand. Busted! Well done.
Boz: “Trust me on this.” You got it. You’re now my official go-to expert on all things soap! It’s like an early Christmas present.Ho Ho ho!
Yes, I’m aware of the main uses for whale oil. Perhaps I was confused by this paragraph you wrote: “The quest for lard led men to Arctic waters and into oversized rowboats to harpoon Leviathan. Imagine, for comparison, taking on a grizzly bear with a Swiss army knife. Oh, I’m sure that Hercules or Sir Laurence Olivier could pull it off, at least against a man in a leviathan suit, but we’re talking about men in wooden boats playing picador/matador to the largest water buffaloes known to man. Lard was, in fact, so scarce that soap and bathing were largely ignored until recent times because of the scarcity of fat for making soap.”
Reading that, and your confusion of lard with whale oil, and mentioning whaling in the same context, I got the impression you were linking sporadic bathing habits of the 18th-19th centuries (whaling times) with the scarcity of “lard” which you generalized to include whale oil. My point was, during this period and beyond (and before), it was common to make soap from actual lard.
I’m also aware of the references to oil in the Bible.Talking about whale oil and Roman times is anachronistic. Although I believe they did make a soap from volcanic ash and…I don’t recall, maybe olive oil. It’s been a while since I did my soap story. I’ve since washed my hands of the matter.
Soap didn’t need marketing? Silly soap manufacturers! Most people at that time made their own soap, as I pointed out. Getting them to consider using it habitually on their body took some marketing. Creating an aversion to and fear of our own bodily odors is a multi billion dollar business. All that soaping up then creates another whole market to replace all the natural skin oils stripped away and washed down the drain.
Re: Vitamin D supplements are actually BAD for you, and low levels of stored vitamin D have nothing to do with bad Covid outcomes. I appreciate the research, but conspiracy at the molecular level–by Rothschilds, no less–is too much for me to follow at the moment. I will add a bottle of magnesium next time I pick up my Vit. D. (Previous to this virus outbreak, I have never taken vitamin supplements. Though I do eat raisins in my organic oatmeal, and I cook with cast iron pans.)
Although I dearly love my son, I have no plans to start a dynasty. It seems like a lot of work, and for what? Access to the best wines fancy chateaus and people like Jeffrey Epstein? Whether you die at 22 or 83, guess what, you’re dead. Besides, we can’t all be Rothschilds. Do the math. Where would be the hoi? Or the polloi? Not much fun being superior if you don’t have them to look down on, LOL! There is all a big plan. By humans. By some other entity. Or there isn’t. Either way, nobody’s asking me to brainstorm the next phase, that much I can report.
Re: the Christmas Tree with balls but no needles: The wildly depressing and bleak corner of a room where it stands forlorn is a good metaphor for the position of the unvaxxed these days–Get in the corner. No food or entertainment for you!
In fact I would say that the situation on the ground in my neck of the woods has never been more ridiculous than it is right now, mid-December of 2021. Last week, my good friend who owns a bar restaurant, one that I have made a point of patronizing even during the period when almost nobody ventured out, decided to make his establishment Vaccinated Only. This was just a day or two after our wack governor declared all business establishments must reinstate mask mandates until January 15, when it will be “reviewed.” Walking by our lovely movie theater last night, signs on every entrance door to the lobby proclaimed Vaccinated Only Proof Required. And my youngest brother,, who has taken over the family Christmas gatherings since my mother died, has gone from an indoor, overnight arrangement with both PCR test and home testing, to outdoor walk only, with same testing protocols and masks.
Am I spiting my own nose by telling myself I will never visit any of the establishments that take a Vaxxed Only stance (especially one that is owned by a friend and that I frequent often)?
While in my dentist’s waiting room yesterday, I watched a report that Radio City Music Hall was now requiring proof of vaccination from everyone five years old and up. But no worries if your kid is not vaxxed, you can still get in to see the show. They have helpfully set up a kiosk where your kid can get jabbed on the spot, no charge and a lollipop. Now that is some hard science right there. It reminds me of what that cretin DeBlasio said the other day, The mandates are working, he said, then cited how much the percentage of vaxxed New Yorkers went up. And here I thought evidence of “working” would be tied to quelling the virus.
Re: whalers and whale blubber. Both candles and soap were more commonly made from the readily available rendered fat of most barnyard animals mixed with a bit of wood ash from the hearth, so a lack of badass whale hunters was probably not the cause of body odor. The resulting soap was more for house cleaning duties than human bathing, however–daily bathing to scrub any human scent from one’s body was more a marketing triumph that arrived along with the industrial revolution. Which is not to say that a few whale species were not hunted nearly to extinction, or that some soap was not made from their blubber. Of course, using soap made from whales would be likely get rid of your human smell and make you smell like a large fishy sea mammal.
lard = rendered pig fat
tallow = rendered cattle, goats, sheep fat
whale oil = boiled blubberWe’ve had several soap making companies in our city through the years, including one that moved here about 7 or 8 years ago. All of their products are currently made of various oils and butters from plants.
Although my childhood was spent on Long Island, a proper whaling center, I currently live not far from Hudson, a city about 100 miles up river from New York City that has anunexpected whaling history
.“Get your shot NOW or face severe illness and death this winter.” US President “Joe Biden,” while demonstrating how to effectively wear a mask.
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@ deflationista — you have been coming round for many months now, on and off, dropping your shocking mainstream narrative bombs, wrapped in that special charm of yours. But really. What is your goal, coming to a group that espouses viewpoints that you vehemently oppose? Is it to make sure we don’t miss the mainstream narrative? To save us from danger? Or are you just a meanie weenie?
The National Football League instituted a new rule this year, penalizing players for taunting the opponent. As far as I can tell your only raison d’être is to draw the yellow penalty flag. It seems kind of a meager reward for all your diligent research, no? Sad, even. But perhaps it gives you some feeling of relief or worth. Oh well, different strokes for different folks. Carry on!
Susmarie108 wrote: If we can RECLAIM our HUMANITY, in ways large and small, we will go through the process GRACEFULLY.
Absolutely. Just because nobody is in charge–not even Elon Musk!–does not mean our individual actions are not “important” (whatever exactly that means to the universe). I find it interesting that Tucker Carlson has had Tulsi Gabbard on his show fairly regularly recently. She strikes me as a voice of reason, which of course means she is doomed. I do find it interesting that she wears her belief in God on her sleeve. In the times ahead, more people will be looking for spiritual guidance. I hope she runs again. I’m of the belief that politicians at that level are basically useless, but can sometimes affect the tenor of public life in some way. (Note that this does not mean they are in charge!)
Meanwhile, I went to the farmer’s market right in town yesterday and bought a pair of locally grown and made wool socks, a small flask of fire cider, and a bowl of soup. The day before I rode my bike to the top of the local mountain in the fog. Today I am working from home and the winter sun is coming through the windows of my little rental cottage by the side of the creek. My son, who got a fever yesterday from his second shot, is on the couch reading. If I look at him, and past him, out the window where the recently bared branches are swaying noiselessly in the light wind, it’s all good.
My son was saying his shoe size is now 10 mens (he just turned 12) and his foot is now bigger than his mom’s head and on a whim I wanted to show him a clip of Ed Sullivan saying Really Big Shew. I came upon this, which is kinda special. Even has a line about the Asian Flu. Serendipity. There ya go.
“…it puts the situation, and therefore potential solutions or fixes, into human hands.”
should be “theoretically, it puts the situation, and therefore potential solutions or fixes, into human hands.”
“We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of…”
Well that explains everything–unknown, all-powerful, behind the scenes villains. Because without exception, everyone in the public eye who is supposed to be part of the vaunted “TPTB” or whatever, is, in my estimation, completely incapable of performing the tasks described in this quote. As would be any human I have ever come across, whether rich or poor, dumb or smart. I guess it must be people like Rothschild (laughing out loud), who use fortified Capt n’ Crunch to control us.
On the other hand, maybe it’s all just part of the system heading down, with all of us playing a role assigned by fate. In every human civilization, there is always a hierarchy of some sort. To ascribe all the bad things that are now happening in the world to a handful of people controlling us for nefarious purposes does accomplish one thing–it puts the situation, and therefore potential solutions or fixes, into human hands. If we can just band together and resist this small cadre of billionaire evil geniuses that are controlling everything, kill them, and elect just and true people who understand the righteous way, we can right the world.
Yes, there are evil people. There are people that take advantage of things to try to benefit themselves. Yes, technology has run amok. But nobody is really in control. Nobody. Just because we have consciousness and history, does not mean we can escape the inevitable–the eventual decline and fall of every civilization due to exceeding the carrying capacity of the resources at hand to that civilization. It’s built into the cake. How it plays out can be determined to some extent, but probably not nearly as much as we would like to think. Good luck Preppers!
Another classic boilerplate Doctor Op Ed from the NYT, complete with young dying patient saying goodbye, hospitals overcrowded with unvaxxed, “regular” sick people having to wait to be treated due to selfish unvaxxed., call for universal mandate cause, you know, patience is running out–we gave you a choice and you picked the wrong one. This time it’s Michigan.
I’m an E.R. Doctor in Michigan, Where Unvaccinated People Are Filling Hospital BedsAnd yet, from the article: “Statewide, nearly one in four hospital patients has a confirmed or suspected case of Covid-19.” Hmmm. Okay, that’s less than 25%. And then some are only “suspected” of having Covid. And also very likely that some “diagnosed” with Covid actually came in with another ailment and found out they also had Covid after being tested for it. Let’s be generous and say 15%- 20%. That sounds like maybe a bad flu season, And how many are unvaccinated? “Like in the rest of Michigan, an
overwhelming majority of patients in our hospital are unvaccinated, including 98 percent of acute critical care patients.” Is he talking about patients in general, or Covid patients?Even the headline does not explicitly say that the unvaccinated filliing up the beds all have covid, leaving room to fudge the numbers. Michigan has a claimed vax rate of 62%. All in all, hearsay and figures out of any relevant context.Here is a puzzling paragraph:
“As immunity from vaccinations wanes, infections will most likely increase if a persistently large number of people remain unvaccinated. A vaccine mandate is the only way to break the endless cycle of surging infections that in turn push hospitals to the brink, and to save lives in conservative, pro-Trump communities like mine where Covid-19 misinformation is pervasive and death rates are far higher than in other communities.”
He laments elsewhere that people with broken bones are forced to wait hours in the emergency room. Earth to doctor: That is the case in virtually every hospital in America.
There was an article the other day about a couple of researchers studying vaccine hesitancy that was a real doozy.
I don’t see the media coming around any time soon. Too vested. I find this one of the more frustrating aspects of the whole thing.
CNN: Preacher who spread vaccine lies dies after being hospitalized with Covid-19
https://youtu.be/4gIuyFixgaUSomeone in the comments noted that he was diabetic and was having difficulty with that. The rest of his family including wife recovered from Covid. He was breathing fine, apparently his heart gave out. (Can no longer find that comment.)
Just because someone is against mRNA vaccines does not make them immune to Covid-19. Most of them acknowledge this risk assessment. Or for some, it is a matter of belief, or principle.
Has there been any gloating or glee over, oh, just for instance, the 32% of Covid deaths that were fully vaccinated in Maryland?
That was back in Oct/early Nov–officials admit they expect the percentage to rise “as more people get vaccinated”. That statement of course makes perfect sense to anyone drowning in mass (disin)formation.NYC Just announced Nandate for all private workers in NYC as of Dec 27. Kids 5-11 must have at least one shot to enter restaurants, etc.
Thank you, TDK. I am choosing not to be sad about it. The odds are in his favor, at least in terms of immediate adverse reactions. Hopefully, the body will eventually expel that crap. The young are resilient.
And immediately after making the post above, I called to say good night to my son. His mother answered. She asked if he could stay with me tonight (Saturday is not one of my usual custody days). Apparently she went to urgent care this afternoon,the doctor detected something, told her to take 4 Bayer chewable 81mg aspirins and go to the ER.
She has not given me much further info, hung up when I calmly mentioned cardiac problems are a typical adverse reaction to the vaccine. She is “fully vaxxed,” but I don’t know if she got the booster when she took our son. NYS has opened it to everyone who wants it. As bad as our relationship has been, and as poorly as I have been treated, I wish no harm to come to her at all, and I hope all will be fine.
Well, I tried the suggestions y’all gave me. But with my ex, resistance is futile. I forgot to mention that, not only is she a narcissist, she’s really mean, too. She is not kidding at all when she writes “I’d be delighted to appear in front of a judge to defend my position & my legal final decision making rights.”
I have final legal decision making in health matters so I have fulfilled my legal obligation of communicating my position to you & inviting you to share your concerns in writing. I don’t need to ‘pretend’ anything.
I disagree with your personal choice to stay unvaccinated, not wear a mask in public, and believe in the efficacy of medicine from India to ward off covid. However that’s not my business.
But I won’t choose a half ass quack medical approach for XXX, that goes against the recommendation of his doctor & the federal agencies and science; and what I perceive to be your conspiracy theory fueled beliefs.
I’d be delighted to appear in front of a judge to defend my position & my legal final decision making rights if that’s your choice.
But xxx, are you incapable of imagining a future where he’ll be ok?
As if to put a special F**ck you on it all, she had him vaxxed for the flu as well as Covid–the 2 for one special for 12-year-olds. Meanwhile, I walked to my friend’s bar-restaurant only to find it “closed due to covid.” I called my friend and he told me the manager tested positive and nobody else wanted to work once they found out. Everyone, including the manager, is vaccinated. Last week I could not attend a band performance there, because the band insisted on vaccinated only. I’m guessing that may have been the superspreader event. Glad they wouldn’t let me in. What a world.
Gary, remember, alcohol never made anything better for an alcoholic personality. Ever. And it never sleeps, its always lurking, even after many years. I hope you will reach out for some local support, especially with the holidays coming up. Peace to you.
Yesterday’s meme, courtesy of Dr. D: My problem is, there doesn’t seem to be any possible action, no possible scandal, no example of deceit, no threshold of waste — even of multi-trillions – no level of oppression, no level of death – even their own – that can POSSIBLY discredit anyone. Or cause consequences. The laws of physics no longer exist. God is mocked. Nothing changes. Things always go on as before.
James Kunstler’s pithy equivalent: Anything goes and nothing matters.
Regarding the vaccination of my son, it did occur to me to suggest the under 12 vax for him as a final resort, and I have. But, aside from knowing whether that can be administered to a 12-year-old, I doubt his mother or his “doctor” would do anything other than administer the full shot. Makes sense, give a kid who weighs less than 100 pounds the same dosage as the right tackle for the Minnesota Vikings. Because you know, they did a lot of studies, and, like, The Science.
Yes, NYS, while offering “joint” custody, designates a “custodial parent.” The father is generally considered a low life dirtbag deadbeat unless he has a really intimidating and expensive lawyer. Otherwise the mostly female family court judges as well as the system itself are heavily biased toward the mother. I guess payback is a bitch. Anyway, that’s the way it is, and when something like this comes up, she CYA and pretends to “consider” my point of view.
After sending her a number of links to medical studies, as well as info about numerous countries putting a halt on the Pfizer vax for kids, etc. she replied:
Thank you, I appreciate hearing your concerns. As a member of the national media I understand the bias and framing inherent in news and opinion articles.
xx took an antibody test in July and he did not have any antibodies: this means he has not had Covid. I disagree there is zero chance of an unvaccinated xx getting seriously ill with Covid. Children 5-11 have been approved for vaccination in the last two weeks. I do not wish to wait three months through another winter to get him vaccinated.
My final determination is to follow xx’s pediatrician’s advice, which is to have him vaccinated as soon as possible after his 12th birthday this week.
This is the same pediatrician who assured us that she is very conservative, does not overprescribe antibiotics, etc. First time the ex took him with the flu virus, she prescribed him antibiotics. When I asked why, she said “prophylactic, just in case.”
Also, she replied to my email, which had links to several medical article and reports, within 10 minutes. Obviously did not read a single one.
I sent her a text and email this morning asking her to get him the under 12 dosage. My hopes are not high. (I even discussed this possibility with my son directly. He knows I disapprove of the vaccine for all but the vulnerable, and that I think masks are a joke. But I don’t talk about the potential adverse reactions, only about the known ineffectiveness of the vax and how silly it is. Obviously he is getting high doses of propaganda at his other home, but kids still have some resistance to it, and he’s smart enough to see the stupidity and pointlessness on some level. But I am careful to avoid making him anxious, and I have not been adamant in his presence about him getting vaccinated. What a crazy time it is.) I can’t even put him on a “vaccine recovery” protocol, since I only have him 3 days a week.
My son turns 12 this week. His mother is planning to get him vaxxed on his birthday. Phoenixvoice has been very helpful in providing links to try to get her to at least postpone. However, she is not only completely under the spell of mass formation hypnosis, she also has an intractable and narcissistic personality. Even though I have joint custody, NYS custody law designates one parent the “custodial” parent” who makes all final decisions and 95% of the time it is the mother. Here is the email she sent me recently after I requested a dialogue.
XXX will be 12 on November xxth, and in accordance with FDA and CDC recommendations I intend to have him vaccinated against Covid-19.
Per CDC:
Although children are at a lower risk of becoming severely ill with COVID-19 compared with adults, children can:
-Be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19
-Get very sick from COVID-19
-Have both short and long-term health complications from COVID-19
-Spread COVID-19 to othersVaccinating children can help protect family members who are not eligible for vaccination.
Vaccination can also help keep children from getting seriously sick even if they do get COVID-19.
Vaccinating children ages 5 years and older can help keep them in school and help them safely participate in sports, public, and other normal group activities, for example, continued participation at the {fancy sports Foundation where my son trains], which requires children 12 and above to be vaccinated.I understand you are concerned about the risk of myocarditis.
According to the American Heart Association, it’s true that cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported after Pfizer COVID-19 vaccination of children ages 12–17 years. However, the rare side effect of myocarditis is less in comparison to the potential risks of COVID-19 infection. Serious health events after COVID-19 vaccination are rare.
As he is under 18, there is only one vaccine available to him and that is Pfizer.
I’ve consulted with his pediatrician and guidance from the CDC and AHA in formulating my proposed determination on this medical issue. You are welcome to respond in writing (only) to communicate your concerns and alternate proposals, including any supplemental material for my consideration.
If anyone has any additional compelling links (again thank you pv!) that are as “mainstream” as possible, ie, no McCoullough,Denninger, Epoch News, RT, etc.) it would be appreciated, even if a lost cause at this point.
Resuming normal life will be a huge relief.
Sorry Paul. Not even for you will life be returning to “Normal.”Not ever again.
But it will be completely gone before the holidays for all the firemen, nurses, cops, sanitation workers that made it possible for your city to get through the pandemic and who now are in the process of losing their livelihoods. And yeah, must have been tough going on his sofa watching Hulu and ordering Uber Eats the last couple years. Somehow I doubt that was much away from “Normal” for him. What a douche.those who’ve gotten their shots
This seemingly innocuous phrase is telling for me. It feels loaded with the morality that the Vaccine Insisters inject into the debate. It also implies somehow that “our shots” are out there, waiting for us to claim them like good citizens. To use the popular euphemism for Let’s Go Brandon, Fuck “Joe Biden.”
