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Pablo Picasso Girl with a boat (Maya Picasso) 1938

 

Argentine Stocks Plunge Over 50% In One Day (AFP)
Hong Kong’s Leader Warns City Faces ‘Path Of No Return’ (AFP)
China Media Says Hong Kong Protesters ‘Asking For Self-Destruction’ (CNBC)
Boris Johnson Expects EU To Cave In To Save Ireland From No-Deal Brexit (R.)
Mortgage Rate Cuts Aren’t Boosting Housing (DDMB) span>
Have Prosecutors Lost Track Of Ghislaine Maxwell? (VF)
One Of People Watching Epstein Not A Proper Prison Guard (Ind.)
300 Brits Named In FBI dossier On Jeffrey Epstein (M.)
Fergie Feels Heat For Hubby Andrew Meeting Epstein (M.)
New FAA Head To Assess Agency Performance In Wake Of 737 MAX Crashes
Plastic Falls From The Sky In Rocky Mountains (G.)
Farm Rot is Eating America Alive (CP)

 

 

Argentina’s stock market plunged 48% in USD today, marking ‘the second-biggest one-day rout on any of the 94 stock exchanges tracked by Bloomberg going back to 1950.’

Argentine Stocks Plunge Over 50% In One Day (AFP)

Pro-business President Mauricio Macri predicted worse would follow after Argentina’s peso and the Buenos Aires stock exchange plummeted Monday following his crushing defeat by populist candidate Alberto Fernandez in a party primary election. Markets panicked as the peso closed at 57.30 to the dollar, a drop of 18.76 percent from its Friday closing figure, while the Merval index crashed 38 percent by close. On the New York stock exchange, Argentine bonds lost around 20 percent and shares in companies from the recession-hit South American country hemorrhaged more than 50 percent.


“This is just a taste of what’s going to happen” if the Peronist Fernandez, whose running mate is corruption-tainted former president Cristina Kirchner, comes to office, Macri warned. “This is about the past, there’s a ton of people who don’t keep their money in this country, who are leaving this country. It’s incredible what could happen.” Ever since taking office, Macri has blamed Argentina’s economic woes on the polices enacted by three successive Kirchner governments — Cristina Kirchner’s 2007-15 time in office was preceded by a single term for her late husband Nestor. “We cannot go back to the past because the world sees this as the end of Argentina,” said Macri.

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But the protesters are back at the airport.

Hong Kong’s Leader Warns City Faces ‘Path Of No Return’ (AFP)

Violent protests are driving Hong Kong down a “path of no return”, the city’s leader warned Tuesday as its airport struggled to recover from an unprecedented shutdown triggered by a rally and authorities in Beijing sent more ominous signals that the unrest must end. The airport, one of the busiest in the world, re-opened on Tuesday morning but hundreds of flights remained cancelled and protesters called for a new rally there later in the day. The abrupt closure came 10 weeks into a crisis that has seen millions of people take to Hong Kong’s streets in the biggest challenge to Chinese rule of the semi-autonomous city since its 1997 handover from Britain.


Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam warned Tuesday of the dangerous consequences facing the city, one of Asia’s most important financial hubs, if escalating violence at the rallies was not curbed. “Violence, no matter if it’s using violence or condoning violence, will push Hong Kong down a path of no return, will plunge Hong Kong society into a very worrying and dangerous situation,” Lam said. “The situation in Hong Kong in the past week has made me very worried that we have reached this dangerous situation.” Lam, who faced fierce questioning from local reporters and at one point appeared to be on the verge of tears, appealed for calm. “Take a minute to think, look at our city, our home, do you all really want to see it pushed into an abyss,” Lam said, although she again refused to make any concessions to the protesters.

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How much of it is bluff?

China Media Says Hong Kong Protesters ‘Asking For Self-Destruction’ (CNBC)

The People’s Daily, the official newspaper of China’s Communist Party, posted on Chinese social media a statement saying the People’s Armed Police are in Shenzhen prepared to handle “riots, disturbance, major violence and crime and terrorism-related social security issues.” In a Tuesday social media post from the Global Times‘ Chinese edition, the outlet said “if Hong Kong rioters cannot read the signal of having armed police gathering in Shenzhen, then they are asking for self-destruction,” according to a CNBC translation. China is “implying they might send in the People’s Liberation Army or issue direct intervention but they don’t want to,” according to Ben Bland, a director at Sydney-based policy think tank Lowy Institute.


”(Beijing) hopes that the signals will scare protesters to back down,” but if and when Beijing decides to deploy troops they will not “advertise it,” he told CNBC. This is all part of a “delicate dance between China and Hong Kong” that’s reached a critical point because there is almost no common ground or overlapping interests between the protesters and Beijing, Bland added. Although China’s leaders do not want to deploy the PLA, they are “willing to do it if they have to,” the Asia politics expert said. Hong Kong’s former governor, Chris Patten, said on Tuesday that if China intervened in the city, it would be a “catastrophe” and that Chinese President Xi Jinping should see the wisdom of trying to bring people together. Patten called on British Prime Minister Boris Johnson to garner support from its allies to ensure Beijing does not intervene.

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That’s quite the gamble.

Boris Johnson Expects EU To Cave In To Save Ireland From No-Deal Brexit (R.)

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson believes the European Union will cave in at the last minute and do a Brexit deal with him to “save Ireland”, the Sun newspaper reported on Monday, citing a source. A no-deal Brexit would hurt Ireland the most and Johnson is convinced European leaders will budge over the key issue of the so-called Irish backstop, the Sun said. The EU has said it is not prepared to reopen the divorce deal it agreed with Johnson’s predecessor Theresa May which includes the backstop – an insurance policy to prevent the return to a hard border between the British province of Northern Ireland and EU-member Ireland.

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Here’s a string to push on.

Mortgage Rate Cuts Aren’t Boosting Housing (DDMB) span>

Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell is facing a housing conundrum. The market is in the midst of a 15-month slump, with home price gains and sales having slowed dramatically and permits to build new dwellings slumping by 6.6% to the lowest level in more than two years. This despite a big drop in market interest rates thanks to the Fed’s dovish pivot earlier this year. Of course, a recession would pull down prices and solve the affordability problem (a National Association of Realtors index shows housing is less affordable now than any time since before the financial crisis). But a recession is exactly what Powell hopes to avoid by lowering benchmark interest rates that are already near historic lows.

The thing is, though, 30-year mortgage rates are already at a very low 3.75%, down from almost 5% in November, and housing hasn’t responded. Applications to purchase a home have declined for four weeks running according to the latest Mortgage Bankers Association data. It’s not clear that even lower rates will help. Meanwhile, plans to buy a home within six months are at multi-year lows and look to have turned for the cycle. The value of residential construction is 7.8% lower than the first six months of 2018, accelerating a trend that’s seen a persistent contraction for six quarters, the longest stretch since the last recession. mThere is, however, some appetite to purchase a new home, albeit off a very low base. And while off the lows from last year’s spike in mortgage rates, buyer traffic in those model homes has been negative for nine consecutive months.

There can be benefits to a true housing recession. If the Fed can manage to contain itself and hold the line on negative interest rates, even a small contraction should be enough to flush the proliferation of speculators out of the market. Stories abound of homes swept up at auction that might have otherwise been razed, as in eradicated from the housing stock altogether. Think of these dwellings as the equivalent to the “zombie” companies that have hung on thanks to artificially low rates that spurred a boom in the market for junk bonds and loans. The divergent trend between residential and nonresidential investment is striking, reflecting malls across America being bulldozed and the build out of a warehouse nation.

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“There were rumors on Monday afternoon that indictments of five people were imminent.”

Have Prosecutors Lost Track Of Ghislaine Maxwell? (VF)

Is it possible prosecutors have lost track of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged co-conspirator in his pedophile ring? For the past few weeks, rumors have circulated that she’s 400 pounds and living in Florida, or that she’s living the high life in London or the Continent, but according to the Washington Post, authorities are having a hard time locating her. Those who know her say that it’s possible she is as much of a Houdini as Epstein. Both of them liked having secrets, and the way those secrets kept people off balance. “Jeffrey always wanted to give the impression that he was an international man of mystery—‘I control everyone and everything, I collect people, I own people, I can damage people,’” says an ex-girlfriend.

As part of Epstein’s original plea deal, negotiated with Alexander Acosta, the others implicated were also given immunity from prosecution, which is partly why victims like Virginia Roberts Giuffre pursued her and others in civil courts. But Epstein’s death has not stopped the current investigation. “We remain committed to standing for you,” Geoffrey Berman, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, wrote in a statement after Epstein’s death, “and our investigation of the conduct charged in the Indictment—which included a conspiracy count—remains ongoing.” There were rumors on Monday afternoon that indictments of five people were imminent.

The nature of the relationship between Epstein and Maxwell, the favorite daughter of embezzling press baron Robert Maxwell, who died when he fell or was pushed from his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, is not well known. Multiple victims claim she was both part of the sex trafficking ring, often bringing girls to Epstein, and a sexual participant. But Epstein told of-age women he courted that Maxwell was a former girlfriend fallen on hard times, and that he had taken it upon himself to maintain her position in society. “Ghislaine floated in and out of the house with the keys, and even though Jeffrey told me they didn’t have a sexual relationship, she’d drop under her breath that she was sleeping in his bed from time to time,” says an ex-girlfriend.

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The conspiracy gods are giving us the finger.

One Of People Watching Epstein Not A Proper Prison Guard (Ind.)

One of the two people monitoring Jeffrey Epstein in the hours before his death was not a properly trained prison guard, it has been reported. As attorney general William Barr condemned “serious irregularities” at the jail where he was being held on bail, and the world waited news of details of an autopsy amid huge speculation and frenzied conspiracy theories, it emerged the 66-year-old disgraced financier had not been checked for several hours before he was found dead in his cell. Epstein, who was last month arrested and accused of orchestrating a sex trafficking network involving girls as young as 14, had not been on suicide watch at the time of his death.


Regulations did call for him to be checked every 30 minutes, however. These rules were put into place after the man who was once a friend of multiple powerful men and celebrities, was was last month found unconscious on the floor of his cell with marks on his neck, an episode officials were investigating as possible suicide attempt or assault. The New York Times said only one of the two people who were monitoring Epstein at the Metropolitan Correctional Centre in New York City, was a “fully-fledged correctional officer”.

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Looks like this is the file that was unsealed on Friday (2,000 pages). That was for Virginia Giuffre’s case vs Ghislaine Maxwell, but I didn’t see it referred to as an FBI dossier before.

300 Brits Named In FBI dossier On Jeffrey Epstein (M.)

The FBI’s 2,000-page dossier on Prince Andrew’s paedophile friend Jeffrey Epstein includes details of 301 British associates from the pervert’s address book. FBI agents raided Epstein’s private US Virgin Island, dubbed “paedophile island”, yesterday as the sex-trafficking probe continued, despite his apparent suicide, aged 66, on Saturday. US officials have also vowed to carry on probing Epstein’s ties to the UK amid fears about his offending overseas. And MPs are calling for an investigation into the Duke of York s relationship with Epstein. Virginia Giuffre claims she was a victim of sex trafficking by Epstein and “loaned” to Prince Andrew for sex three times, which he vehemently denies.

[..] US investigators who looked at Epstein’s “little black book” found almost half of it read like a who’s who of British society. His 301 British contacts had more than 1,000 numbers and dozens of email addresses between them. There is no suggestion the presence of their names in the book means any are accused of any wrongdoing or even met Epstein in person. The contacts included celebrities such as Mick Jagger, Simon Le Bon, the late Sir David Frost, Richard Branson, Naomi Campbell, Tamara Beckwith, Jonathan Dimbleby, Loyd Grossman and numerous lords and ladies. Former Prime Minister Tony Blair is recorded once, while his former cabinet minister Lord Peter Mandelson has 10 numbers, including one marked “direct line” one for “home” and another for “country home”.

There are 16 numbers for Prince Andrew, including a mobile number, one marked “Palace ex-directory”, one for Balmoral, the Queen’s Scottish residence, where the Prince invited Epstein, and one marked “Sand”, for Sandringham, another royal retreat where he spent time. Epstein also recorded 18 numbers for Prince Andrew’s former wife Sarah Ferguson, who took £15,000 off the paedophile to help pay off her debts.

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Andrew’s under fire. He invited Epstein into several royal palaces.

Fergie Feels Heat For Hubby Andrew Meeting Epstein (M.)

Sarah and Andrew have been “rekindling” their romance back at Balmoral on holiday with the Queen. Until Sunday’s headlines about another wealthy American saw Fergie fleeing the royal fold in panic. Because paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, the pal who helped clear her debts, had killed himself – leaving secrets that could draw Andrew deeper into a sordid sex scandal involving teenage girls. And while the royals are standing by Andrew, who categorically denies any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors, Fergie fears she will take more flack over Andrew’s friendship with the disgraced financier. For it was Sarah who first introduced Andrew to “Good Time Ghislaine” Maxwell in the 1990s, before she introduced them to her lover Epstein.


Ghislaine became Andrew’s social fixer, his conduit into millionaire trans-Atlantic society. They were spotted dining on lobster salad, drinking champagne cocktails at a stylish Madison Avenue restaurant in New York in 2000. This was just a brief glimpse of Andrew’s new US life in the fast lane, all private jets, racy nightclubs and first-class treatment. When the Yorks divorced, Fergie’s profligate spending saw her rack up £5million in debts. In 2011, three years after Epstein was convicted of soliciting underage girls for prostitution, Sarah revealed he’d paid £15,000 to a personal assistant she owed.

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“..the Boeing 737 MAX “will not fly in commercial service until I am completely satisfied that it is safe to do so..”

New FAA Head To Assess Agency Performance In Wake Of 737 MAX Crashes

U.S. Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao said on Monday she has asked the new head of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to assess the agency’s performance in the wake of two fatal crashes of Boeing Co’s 737 MAX planes since October. Chao, who administered the oath of office to new FAA Administrator Stephen Dickson, a former Delta Air Lines executive, at an event in Washington, said Dickson’s arrival “is an important opportunity to take stock of how well the FAA is doing in carrying out its critical safety functions.”


She added that she has asked Dickson “to assess the performance of the agency and the results of the ongoing investigations to make recommendations about any needed reforms.” Dickson reiterated the position of his predecessor, Dan Elwell, who has been the acting FAA chief since January 2018, that the Boeing 737 MAX “will not fly in commercial service until I am completely satisfied that it is safe to do so. FAA is following no timeline in returning the aircraft to service. Rather we are going to where the facts lead us.”

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We’re experimenting on our children.

Plastic Falls From The Sky In Rocky Mountains (G.)

Plastic was the furthest thing from Gregory Weatherbee’s mind when he began analyzing rainwater samples collected from the Rocky Mountains.“I guess I expected to see mostly soil and mineral particles,” said the US Geologic Survey researcher. Instead, he found multicolored microscopic plastic fibers. The discovery, published in a recent study titled “It is raining plastic”, is raising new questions about the amount of plastic waste permeating the air, water, and soil virtually everywhere on Earth. “I think the most important result that we can share with the American public is that there’s more plastic out there than meets the eye,” said Weatherbee. “It’s in the rain, it’s in the snow. It’s a part of our environment now.”


Rainwater samples collected across Colorado and analyzed under a microscope contained a rainbow of plastic fibers, as well as beads and shards. The findings shocked Weatherbee, who had been collecting the samples in order to study nitrogen pollution. “My results are purely accidental,” he said, though they are consistent with another recent study that found microplastics in France’s Pyrenees Mountains, suggesting that plastic particles could travel with the wind for hundreds, if not thousands, of kilometers. Other studies have turned up microplastics in the deepest reaches of the ocean, in UK lakes and rivers and in US groundwater.

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Farm Rot is Eating America Alive (CP)

The environment is the immense natural world that nourishes life and keep us alive. But instead of protecting and loving it, our corrupt Trump government signals to the business and billionaire classes the environment is theirs to exploit and destroy. The same confused mentality has been keeping the politicians mumbling about social problems, all but neglecting environmental policies that undermine the very ground under their feet. A look at that ground demolishes the bible of agribusiness: that our food is the safest in the world: that our agriculture is science-based. In the place of this fiction, farm rot is eating the country alive.

It’s a repeat of the early twentieth century when Upton Sinclair wrote about the mafia-like culture of food and agriculture: the complete absence of government regulation, the loathsome slaughterhouses of Chicago, the adulteration and poisoning of food. Scientists often publish dense articles about farming that, reading between the lines, you grasp the dreadful effects of our irresponsible decisions of allowing farmers to do as they please. These farmers have been addicted to huge petroleum-fueled machines, mountains of petroleum-based fertilizers, and rivers of petrochemical poisons. These “inputs” undermine the fertility and life of the land. Petrochemicals fight nature, primarily by killing beneficial microorganisms in the soil and poisoning beneficial insects and other wildlife.

The vision of the petrochemical farmers is not diversity in crops, much less diversity in the natural world where they are producing food. No, their nightmare of “scientific” agriculture takes flesh in the cultivation of one crop at a time, covering a vast acreage. In this futile struggle against nature, farmers keep adding more of old sprays, and often replace old chemicals with newer more acutely deleterious materials. Petrochemical companies, and the land grant universities that have been inventing many of the toxic weapons of the farmers, keep the farmers hooked on ever newer hazardous substances.

This farm chemical warfare has been going on for several decades. Farmers, academic and business experts and environmentalists know about it, though rarely any one of them calls farm sprays chemical warfare agents. They hope against hope this process can last forever. But it won’t. It annot. Nature does not work that way. It does not hide its secrets like men do. Employ reason and science and the truth and beauty of nature is all over you. But pretend you are the king and knows best, that you have the right to dominate the natural world, and you face the abyss of destruction.

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    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 13 2019]

    #49185

    Dr. D
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    This was interesting. In an article where he cites “Millions of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck,” and the first 7 paragraphs are pointless venting and opinion, he then opposes the food system that is keeping food 20x lower than it otherwise would be.

    I quite agree with Vallianatos: we should stop mass agribusiness, and the poisons and methods used for more than 100 years are counterproductive. However, he’s trying to kill the bottom 30 Million poorest (and according to him, brownest) people in America by raising food prices 20-fold. Does he have a productive answer to this? Nope. Just like every other Schmarty-guyz with a typewriter. And like them, he shows no interest in ever getting his hands dirty helping grow anything. No, that’s for the French Peasants he mentions. He’ll stay in Paris and whip them to a fury of envy during a farming failure, as his peers did in 1789, directing them to estates and golf courses just as his peers did then, and to the same result.

    To show how non-schmartz he really is, he adds, “when the Democrats capture the Senate and the White House, these chemicals should be banned immediately” completely ignoring that Democrats and Republicans have run the country roughly 50 years each. Every combination has occurred. As recently as 2013, Monsanto’s CEO became FDA head under Democratic administration of Obama. DDT was introduced under Truman and banned under Nixon. So since all parties are wildly pro-poison and anti-farm, as proven by a consistent 100 year track history of utter destruction, approved and legally required by farm tax bills and farm subsidies, how shallow can your thinking be to believe that 2 years into a zero-change policy, this President, or either party specifically has anything to do with this?

    You know what does? “Democracy”, where two wolves and a sheep vote on what’s for dinner. In this case, two cities and one farm are voting on food policy, and – shocking! – guess what? Cities want food prices low, even if it runs every farmer out of business and desertifies the nation from sea to shining sea. They’ve wanted that since they got the upper hand sometime back in the 1890s and have relentlessly added policies each year to grind and ruin all farmers, farm states, and farm towns into abject poverty and peasant status, reaching the point today where they openly mock them and call for their open murder en masse. …Just as was done in France with a complete, successful, joyful genocide against the Vendees, and as Vallianatos calls for now.

    …But this is the cycle of all civilizations. As with Rome, the cities, being concentrated, centralized power, change from a fair and equal cooperation of country and city, and the “civilization” (in this case meaning “city”, as cities are arguably the least civilized locations) then naturally, automatically, advocates for its interests. At first this is small, but the ability to raise their own prices (stocks, manufactured goods, real estate, and currencies), control taxation, and thus increase their own wealth, tirelessly poaches talent to the centers even as the wealth gradually transfers there too. Eventually the imbalance, the deal and human agreement between farm and city is so great that open conflict breaks out, and generally the city attacks and destroys the farmers, aka ‘rebels’. Also being so pin-headed, arrogant, and ignorant, they not only don’t see the root of the problem: that is, abject slavery combined with a hate and smear campaign against the dirty, ignorant, violent subhumans, which the underclass eventually gets sick of. Even today, and worldwide we use the words “Peasant,” “Villain,” and “Churl”, as well as “Robot” “Provincial”, “Hillbilly” and several others, each one a specific smear: city good, smart, and moral; rural bad, stupid, and low.

    So here we are again, and Vallianatos is leading the parade. We’re entering a food crisis, and they are again attacking their own food source, and like the Holodormir, kill all the belligerents who know how to farm and replace them with Schmart guyz, because like Idiocracy, you just turn the giant lever at the end of the field that turns on the Brawndo, then harvest 6 months later, right? No one will be mad when they follow his suggestions and food rises 20x in the cities as everything adjusts, right? Just like AOC and the Green New Deal said: kill everyone, be it via food, heat, economics, or delivery transportation.

    Let’s not. Instead let’s start a slow, steady transition to required, sustainable, more efficient processes and raising the relative prices slowly so nothing breaks, and city people slowly transfer bodies, wealth, and talent back to the countryside. …But that’s not what history says happens. Prepare accordingly.

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    Dr. D
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    Brazilian President Bolsanaro is way ahead of me and Vallianatos on this. He says to save their earth, we just have to eat half as much!

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/brazil-president-poop-every-other-day

    P.S., being President, and a moron (but I repeat myself) he phrases it “so they can poop half as much”. Ah, Jair, Jair. If only you had ever done a lick of work in your poor miserable life, you’d know that poop is the very BEST thing for the environment. It’s called “manure”, it’s fertilizer and plants love it. From Terra del Fuego to Mexico City all of the south lands were greened and turned into a lush, productive Amazon with just this “pollution” of which you fear.

    But anyway, they have it worked out from top to bottom: You’re not going to be eating. They said so. Let’s see if that goes any better for these guys than it went for Marie Antoinette.

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    zerosum
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    ” …. food rises 20x …..”
    It’s coming
    Street people are not going to pay that price
    The rich are now paying extra to buy organic. They will end up paying 20x and the street people will find different ways to feed themselves without paying what they cannot pay. (Examples exist in every country.)

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    lasttwo
    Participant

    Dr D with all due respect and I do enjoy reading your comments. I do not think factory farms keep the price of food 20x lower. In fact the overall cost of poisioning the land and the oceans and transporting food across the world could be far more than the savings we think we are getting. The food system is broken. Lots of parasitic hand in that pot. Feed lots and factory farms are a crisis against anything near being humane. We can feed the world without destroying it.

    We started purchasing as much food as we can locally from family farms . the cost is maybe 10% higher but the food is 50% better. Grains are certainly still an issue but less grains seems to be better for our health. My wife has suffered with stomach issues for years having a couple of surgerys and constant meds for stomach issues. We suspect the chemicals are to blame. Her stomach issues have been improving and I lost 6 lbs just in the last few months the only change being not buying factory meat and vegetables

    As much as I support Tulsi Gabbard I think the empire has won that battle. It is a shame the war machine is just too strong.

    Here is a running list of Trumps policy to destroy the environment. If you hunt fish garden farm walk out side breath eat or drink you have to care at least a little. Now he as removed the endangered species restrictions. and oked the use of cyanide bombs against wild life WTF
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/03/how-trump-is-changing-science-environment/

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    V. Arnold
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    Epstein = Oh look, a unicorn…

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    lasttwo
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    Dr D, I owe you an apology I was pretty tired when I read your comment and I misinterpreted it. You are correct we need to move to sustainable farming practices. I will say one thing it will not be quick two years ago I bought some straw for chicken bedding. after it served as bedding I put in on the garden and last year almost nothing grew, in the spot were the straw was, I did not realize that it was sprayed before I got it. this yearr the garden came back but not to the level it should be. 30 day half life my ass. at least Miami has banned round up. Miami for gods sake. but the rest of the west is paying a large and long price.

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