Jul 162024
 


René Magritte The false mirror 1928

 

“I’m Supposed To Be Dead” (ZH)
Trump Makes First Public Appearance Since Assassination Attempt (RT)
Trump Picks J.D. Vance As Running Mate (ZH)
Trump’s Would-Be Assassin Did Not Act ‘on His Own’ – Ex-CIA Officer (Sp.)
I Know A Hero When I See One (David Sacks)
Shocks to the System (Kunstler)
Biden Defends His ‘Put Trump In Bullseye’ Remark (RT)
Biden Orders Security For Kennedy (RT)
Bobby Kennedy III Slams US Secret Service (RT)
Russian Reaction To The Trump Assassination Attempt Is Biblical (Helmer)
Trump Classified Docs Case Dismissed, Jack Smith Unconstitutional (ZH)
MSNBC Yanks Morning Joe On Fears Of Inappropriate Trump Shooting Comments (ZH)
There’s Another Culprit In The Trump Murder Attempt (Bridge)
Orban Delivers Ukraine Peace Proposals To EU (RT)
Ex-US NATO Ambassador Tells Ukraine To Conscript Teenagers (RT)
Elon Musk is Right: End the Online Censorship Racket (Turley)

 

 

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“I want to try to unite our country… but I do not know if that is possible. People are very divided.”

“I’m Supposed To Be Dead” (ZH)

Donald Trump says he’s “supposed to be dead,” and that Saturday’s attempted assassination was a “very surreal experience.” Speaking with the NY Post aboard his private plane en route to Milwaukee for the GOP National Convention, the former president said the doctor called it a ‘miracle.’ “The doctor at the hospital said he never saw anything like this, he called it a miracle,” said Trump, whose ear was covered by a loose white bandage. His staff insisted on no pictures. “I’m not supposed to be here, I’m supposed to be dead,” said Trump. “I’m supposed to be dead.” Trump said that had he not turned his head slightly to the right to read a chart on illegal immigration, it would have been a kill shot instead of having a small piece of his ear torn off, spattering blood on his forehead and cheek.


© AP Photo / Gene J. Puskar

Trump said that as Secret Service agents led him off stage, he still wanted to continue speaking to supporters, but the agents told him it wasn’t safe and they had to get him to a hospital. He marveled at how the agents came flying in like “linebackers” as soon as the shooting started, and he unbuttoned his long-sleeve white shirt to show a large bruise on his right forearm. -NY Post Trump explained that “The agents hit me so hard that my shoes fell off, and my shoes are tight.” He then commended the Secret Service for their heroic actions, and praised them for gunning down the shooter – who had fired from around 130 yards away. Trump also reacted to the iconic photo of him raising his fist as agents tried to get him off the stage. “A lot of people say it’s the most iconic photo they’ve ever seen,” he told the Post. “They’re right and I didn’t die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.” “I just wanted to keep speaking, but I just got shot,” he continued.

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“He stood flanked by his new running mate JD Vance and House Speaker Mike Johnson on the left, and Florida Rep. Byron Donalds and journalist Tucker Carlson on the right.”

Trump Makes First Public Appearance Since Assassination Attempt (RT)

Former US President Donald Trump was greeted with thunderous applause on the opening night of the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The four-day convention began just two days after a failed assassination attempt against Trump, who was officially nominated on Monday as the party’s presidential nominee for the November election. The crowd cheered wildly when Trump, with a white bandage on his right ear, appeared on the big screen, walking from backstage to the convention floor to a live version of Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA.” After greeting his supporters, who were chanting “USA! USA!” and “Fight! Fight! Fight!” Trump climbed the stairs to the VIP section. He stood flanked by his new running mate JD Vance and House Speaker Mike Johnson on the left, and Florida Rep. Byron Donalds and journalist Tucker Carlson on the right.

Trump tapped JD Vance as vice presidential candidate but did not address the convention on Monday. He is expected to deliver a speech, which he revised in the wake of the shooting, on the final day of the gathering on Thursday. A bullet grazed Trump’s right ear when a gunman fired at least five rounds from a semi-automatic rifle in his direction during a campaign rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. One spectator was killed and two others severely wounded before the shooter was fatally shot by US Secret Service officers. ”I am not supposed to be here; I am supposed to be dead,” Trump said in an interview with the New York Post on Sunday. The former president said he had prepared “an extremely tough speech… all about the corrupt, horrible administration” for the event in Milwaukee, but “threw it away” after the assassination attempt. ”I want to try to unite our country… but I do not know if that is possible. People are very divided,” he added.

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Tucker likes him a lot.

Trump Picks J.D. Vance As Running Mate (ZH)

48 hours after being shot through the ear at a campaign event, Donald Trump has announced J.D. Vance as his running mate. “After lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of Vice President of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the Great State of Ohio,” Trump posted on Truth Social. Full statement:

After lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of Vice President of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the Great State of Ohio. J.D. honorably served our Country in the Marine Corps, graduated from Ohio State University in two years, Summa Cum Laude, and is a Yale Law School Graduate, where he was Editor of The Yale Law Journal, and President of the Yale Law Veterans Association. J.D.’s book, “Hillbilly Elegy,” became a Major Best Seller and Movie, as it championed the hardworking men and women of our Country. J.D. has had a very successful business career in Technology and Finance, and now, during the Campaign, will be strongly focused on the people he fought so brilliantly for, the American Workers and Farmers in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, and far beyond….

Vance, 39, had emerged as the front-runner earlier in the day after sources said that Marco Rubio and Gov. Doug Burgum had been finalists. Both were told on Monday that they were out of the running.Following Saturday’s attempted assassination Vance jumped into action – suggesting on X that President Biden bore responsibility. “The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination,” wrote Vance, who went from harsh Trump critic to ardent supporter. Donald Trump Jr. has repeatedly advocated for Vance – who in 2016 privately texted a former Yale roommate that he feared Trump could be “America’s Hitler.” By 2018, however, Vance had softened his tone – viewing Trump as speaking to the frustrations of the very Americans he had written about in his book. Of note, the Ohio Senator is pro-crypto…

Tucker JD
https://twitter.com/i/status/1812954934909849746

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“I don’t know what the network is, I don’t know which organizations he is tied to, but he didn’t do this on his own..”

Trump’s Would-Be Assassin Did Not Act ‘on His Own’ – Ex-CIA Officer (Sp.)

On July 13 Donald Trump narrowly survived an attempt on his life when a gunman opened fire at him during a campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania. One bystander was killed and two sustained serious injuries while Trump himself was shot in the ear. The recent attempt on Donald Trump’s life has, among other things, effectively “destroyed the ability of the Democrats going forward to demonize Donald Trump,” says retired CIA intelligence officer and State Department official Larry Johnson. As the US Democrats consistently sought to brand Trump as an “existential threat… their very language encouraged violence, encouraged killing Trump.” “Now they can’t do that without being accused of inciting violence. And, so now they have to argue on just issues. And when they are supposed to argue on issues, that means, they’re going to fail,” Johnson argued.

Currently, Trump’s political opponents can do little to curb the surge of his popularity in the wake of the assassination attempt, in no small part due to the fact that “they can’t argue the issues,” the ex-CIA officer notes. “What are the issues? Illegal immigration? Well, the Democrats have been enabling that. Inflation? Well, the economy is still plagued with inflation, but people are feeling that at the grocery store and at the gas pump,” Johnson elaborates. “So, their efforts to try to shift to issues, it’s going to be difficult for them, because they’ve been so accustomed to describing Trump as, you know, the personification of Satan.” While the FBI has already announced that the man who is suspected of trying to kill Trump, one Thomas Matthew Crooks, was acting alone, Johnson argues that it is “highly likely” that the gunman “had additional support.” “I don’t know what the network is, I don’t know which organizations he is tied to, but he didn’t do this on his own,” Johnson says.

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“There is no way to fake courage like that..”

I Know A Hero When I See One (David Sacks)

I KNOW A HERO WHEN I SEE ONE. The Washington Post names me, along with as one of several businessmen, who are using their “megaphones” to spread “narratives” about the assassination attempt on President Trump. I’m not sure what “narratives” they’re referring to, but I know what I saw, and I know what the crowd in Butler witnessed live. At it turns out, my father-in-law lives in Pennsylvania and he was at the rally on Saturday. When the shots rang out and Trump went down, he said pandemonium broke out around him. Everyone feared the worst. But then Trump rose. Covered in his own blood, resisting the secret service’s efforts to whisk him away to safety, Trump raised his fist defiantly, and the crowd could see him say: “Fight. Fight. Fight.”

Immediately the fear of the crowd dissipated, the chaotic uncertainty lifted, and it was replaced with steely resolve. The crowd responded back as one: “USA, USA, USA!” This is not a “narrative.” It is the truth. Trump stood defiant in the face of an assassin’s bullet. There is no way to fake courage like that. It was more important for Trump to let the crowd know that he was unbowed and unbroken than to be taken to safety. Donald Trump has already been in the fight of his life for months, as vindictive Democrats seek to imprison him, but on this day he came within inches of losing it. He has risked everything for this country. It is now up to us, the American people, to show him that he does not stand alone. Let us reject the lies, the hoaxes, the hate and the division that the media has spread about this brave man, and support his resounding victory in November.

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“..if you come at the king, you better not miss.”

Shocks to the System (Kunstler)

[..] following the election of 2016, scores of government officials from Barack Obama and Joe Biden on down set out to wreck Mr. Trump’s turn in office, and ran one hoax after another to disable and dislodge him, and each hoax was a battery of lies begetting more lies. The style of thinking behind all that is called unprincipled. Many of these lies entailed crimes, some of them gigantic frauds perpetrated on the citizenry such as the ballot-stuffing operation that jammed “Joe Biden” into office — and which you were not permitted to speak of on penalty of cancellation and prosecution.

By 2020, “Joe Biden” had racked up enough bribes from foreign lands that he was susceptible to blackmail and thus to manipulation. That his mind was failing through his entire term only made that easier. Both “Joe Biden” and the Neocon gang at State and the CIA were implicated in a web of crimes in Ukraine, and war there was one way to cover all of it up, so they made sure that war happened. The lies and hoaxes continued to multiply, accompanied by huge, destructive pranks — the George Floyd riots, the drag queens in the kiddie classrooms, the wide-open border, the FBI-instigated J-6 riot — and the Democratic Party was embroidered in that whole tapestry of degenerate politics along with the Deep State blob.

In short, the Democratic Party appears to be guilty of programmatic treason against the people of the United States. They know that a reckoning awaits if Mr. Trump manages to return to office. They’ve known it for years. But two recent Supreme Court decisions really amped up their fears: 1) Trump v. the United States establishes presidential immunity from prosecution for acts involving his core constitutional duties; and 2) Loper Bright v. Raimondo establishes that the federal bureaucracy can no longer rule over citizens unchecked by the courts. Both of these would make it much easier for a President Trump to disassemble the Deep State. And of course, that may lead to the investigation and prosecution of Deep State personae who abused their positions — possibly even prison. . . a discomfiting prospect.

The Democratic Party’s cover got blown on June 27th when Joe Biden had to go live in a debate and displayed his mental incompetency for all to see. That shock to the system forced a scramble to replace “JB” pretty late in the election cycle, since now just enough voters may be indisposed to re-electing an obvious human wreck. But the switcheroo effort seems to have lost traction. And the party may have muffed its blackmail leverage over “Joe Biden.” After all, his briberies are all well-cataloged by the House Oversight Committee, including the vast bank records of the many shell companies set up to receive the bribe money.

Is it possible, though, that “Joe Biden” holds blackmail material over his party confederates? After all, he’s still President. He has access to things you’d never dream of and, demented as he is, he has plenty of help close at hand from Hunter, Dr. Jill, and the Lawfare posse for sorting it out. He probably knows a thing or two about his old pard Barack Obama, too, that would make some folks uncomfortable. So, looks like “JB” is fixing to hang in there as his party’s nominee, and whoever doesn’t like it can go suck an egg.

After the stunning events of Saturday evening, it also looks like candidate “Joe Biden” would go down in flames against Donald Trump on November 5, stuffed drop-boxes and all. Not a few Democratic Party bigshots have already made noises about leaving the country if that happens, possibly to nations lacking extradition treaties with the USA. Many others must be gobbling Xanax like Tic Tacs now that Donald Trump has survived the ultimate affront to his existence. You know the old nugget of wisdom: if you come at the king, you better not miss. Ooops.

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He knows very well what he said. And why.

Biden Defends His ‘Put Trump In Bullseye’ Remark (RT)

US President Joe Biden has dismissed any notion that his rhetoric might incite violence, claiming that by calling for a “bullseye” on Donald Trump he was merely trying to shift the “focus” from his poor debate performance to his Republican rival’s actions and policies. The incumbent has repeatedly called his rival a threat to democracy and the nation and told donors earlier this month, “We’re done talking about the debate; it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.” Following the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, multiple commentators argued that the violence was incited by exactly this kind of reckless remark. In an interview on Monday, Biden insisted it was a “mistake” and merely a figure of speech when NBC News anchor Lester Holt asked him about using the term “bullseye.”

“I didn’t say ‘crosshairs.’ I meant ‘bullseye,’” Biden clarified. “I meant focus on him. Focus on what he’s doing, focus on his policies, focus on the number of lies he told in the debate. Focus on… I mean there is a whole range of things that… Look, I am not the guy that said I want to be a dictator on day one. I am not the guy that refused to accept the outcome of the election.” Asked whether the shooting prompted him to do “some soul searching” and reflect on comments “that could incite people who are not balanced,” the incumbent deflected, arguing that it was Trump, not him, who has routinely used incendiary rhetoric for years.

”How do you talk about the threat to democracy, which is real, when a president says things like he says? Do you just not say something because it may incite somebody?” Biden wondered, recalling Trump’s pledge to become a “dictator” for just one day and his warning about a potential “bloodbath” if he loses. “I have not engaged in that rhetoric… My opponent has engaged in that rhetoric.” On Saturday, a gunman later identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks fired several shots at Trump while he was giving a speech on an open-air stage in Butler, Pennsylvania. A bullet grazed the former president’s right ear, but he was otherwise unharmed. One spectator was killed, and two more were wounded before the attacker was neutralized by Secret Service agents. Although the attack was widely condemned by both Republicans and Democrats, Trump supporters have argued that the Democrats and the media were guilty of inciting hatred against Trump.

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Oh puhleeze. 3 years too late?!

Biden Orders Security For Kennedy (RT)

Independent US presidential candidate Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., whose father was killed on the campaign trail, had long requested Secret Service protection to no avail, despite multiple security incidents. US Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas announced on Monday that “in light of this weekend’s events, the president has directed me to work with the Secret Service to provide protection to Robert Kennedy Jr.” “Thank you, President Biden, for extending me Secret Service protection,” Kennedy said in a statement, also expressing gratitude to the security firm Gavin de Becker & Associates for “keeping me safe for the past 15 months of my presidential campaign.” The announcement comes shortly after Trump demanded that Kennedy receive protection. “In light of what is going on in the world today, I believe it is imperative that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. receive Secret Service protection – immediately,” the former president wrote on Truth Social. “Given the history of the Kennedy family, this is the obvious right thing to do!”

Kennedy met with Trump earlier on Monday to discuss “national unity,” and said he hoped to meet with “Democratic leaders about that as well,” dismissing rumors that he was planning to drop out of the race. Trump survived an assassination attempt during a campaign rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday when a gunman fired at least five rounds from an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle in his direction, with one bullet grazing his right ear. A Trump supporter was killed, and two others were severely wounded in the attack. The assailant was shot dead on site by Secret Service officers. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose uncle, former U.S. President John F. Kennedy, and father, New York senator and presidential candidate, were both assassinated over half a century ago, filed an application for Secret Service protection last year. Despite several follow-ups, his requests were rejected by the White House.

Kennedy, who initially challenged Biden for the Democratic nomination before launching an independent bid last year, suffered multiple security incidents on his campaign trail. Last September, an armed man impersonating a federal officer was detained at his campaign event, while in October, a man was arrested for trespassing at his Los Angeles home.

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“Take your secret service and shove it up your ass.”

Bobby Kennedy III Slams US Secret Service (RT)

Bobby Kennedy III, a member of the famous American political dynasty that has experienced the ‘Kennedy curse’ of assassinations, deaths, and accidents, has slammed the US Secret Service’s failure to detect Donald Trump’s attacker before he fired shots at the former president. According to eyewitnesses who spoke to the media, the suspect was seen on the rooftop of a manufacturing plant shortly before he targeted Trump during a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday. “Unsecured rooftop 150 yards away. Multiple witnesses saying they were screaming at secret service and cops for 3-4 minutes as they watched the guy with the rifle crawl to the spot and line up his shot, Kennedy III wrote on X (formerly Twitter) on Sunday. “Take your secret service and shove it up your ass.” Kennedy III is the son of current presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. – whose uncle, former US President John F. Kennedy, and father, a New York senator and presidential candidate, were both assassinated in the 1960s.

Regarding the attempt on Trump’s life, eyewitnesses and video footage have depicted a chaotic scene as shots rang out at the event. Concerns have mounted about the level of security in the aftermath of the shooting, after multiple witnesses said police did not respond to warnings about the presence of the would-be assassin. The suspect, later identified as 20-year-old local Thomas Matthew Crooks, was killed on the spot by Secret Service snipers. One bystander told the BBC that minutes before the attack, he and other people had seen a man crawling up on the roof carrying a rifle, and had tried to alert the police. “He had a rifle, we could clearly see a rifle,” Greg Smith told the broadcaster. “We’re like, ‘Hey man, there’s a guy on the roof with a rifle’… and the police did not know what was going on.”

In another report, law enforcement officials told the AP that a local policeman had spotted the shooter on the roof moments before he tried to kill Trump. However, the officer reportedly failed to stop the gunman after he pointed his AR-style rifle at him. “The fact that we’re hearing that people knew that there was a man on this roof with a gun, and were trying to get police attention while the president was up at the podium is just incredibly cause for concern and, I think, very frustrating for everyone,” Mike Turner, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN on Sunday. Trump narrowly escaped death after his attacker fired at least five shots. The presidential candidate was grazed by one of the bullets, sustaining a wound to his right ear. At least one rallygoer was killed in the attack by stray bullets, with two others sustaining gunshot wounds.

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“After numerous attempts to eliminate the Trump candidate from the political arena using first legal tools, attempts to politically discredit and compromise the candidate, it was obvious for his life to be in danger.”

Russian Reaction To The Trump Assassination Attempt Is Biblical (Helmer)

The Russian reaction to the attempted assassination of Donald Trump is a combination – idol, whirlwind, sin, destruction, God, payoff — plus deep suspicion that either President Joseph Biden or Trump’s organization, or both of them, had a hand in fabricating what happened, plus conviction that they are now capitalizing on the outcome for all they are worth. The official line was given by the Foreign Ministry’s spokesman on sowing the whirlwind. The Kremlin spokesman followed with the calf of Samaria. “Yesterday,” wrote Maria Zakharova of the Foreign Ministry on Telegram, “one of the leaders of the Kiev regime, [Kirill] Budanov, openly admitted that Ukrainian intelligence was preparing attempts on the President of Russia. So this attempt was being prepared, again, for American money, without which there would have been no malicious activity of the GUR, the SBU and, in general, Bankova [the presidential office ].

With massive financing and uncontrolled supply of weapons, Washington has created a terrorist structure in Ukraine – the Kiev regime. It is a machine of murders, bombings, exterminations, and terrorist attacks against both political figures and civilians…TheUnited States of America should take stock of its policy of inciting hatred against political opponents, countries and people, and sponsoring terrorism. The bell is already ringing for Washington!” Dmitry Peskov for President Vladimir Putin said there is “no plan” for the latter to telephone Trump. He then implied the Biden plot by making a qualified denial. “We do not think and do not believe that the attempt to eliminate the presidential candidate Trump was organized by the current authorities, but the atmosphere that was created by this administration in the course of the political struggle, the atmosphere around the candidate Trump, it was that which provoked what today faced with America.”

Peskov then tipped the Kremlin in Trump’s direction: “After numerous attempts to eliminate the Trump candidate from the political arena using first legal tools, attempts to politically discredit and compromise the candidate, it was obvious for his life to be in danger.” The state news agency RIA-Novosti tipped even further for Trump. “The assassination attempt on Donald Trump is surprising only because it happened on July 13, and not earlier — a year, three or eight years ago. The upstart, who challenged not only most of the American establishment, but also the ‘Washington swamp’ as such, has risked his head very much all these years… It is clear that now the ‘swamp denizens’ are biting their elbows because they did not think to kill Trump before November 2016: they underestimated the threat, did not believe in the reality of his victory.”

Tsargrad, an internet platform of Russian exceptionalism and Orthodoxy, treats Trump as a Russian ally in the war against Biden. “A bullet in Trump’s head is a blow to Russia: What remains behind the scenes of the assassination attempt on the ex-president of the United States — a real assassination attempt or a staging? The question, in fact, is not idle, especially in relation to Russia. After the appearance of an increasing number of details in the case of the attempted assassination of former US President Donald Trump, a lot of interesting things come up behind the scenes of the assassination attempt… This is the true face of hegemony and the unipolar world: anyone who is against globalism, who stands in its way, is first subject to demonization (through the tools of the abolition culture), then physical elimination…Globalists don’t care about the United States, just like everyone else. They need planetary power, the absolute power of supernational capital. And all countries, including America and Europe itself, are just tools in creating a World Government. Trump is for America and against the World Government. As Putin is for Russia, Xi Jinping is for China, Modi is for India, and Orban, Fico, Marine Le Pen and AfD are for Europe,”

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Can he try again? Perhaps not as Special Counsel?

Trump Classified Docs Case Dismissed, Jack Smith Unconstitutional (ZH)

US District Court Judge Eileen Cannon has dismissed Donald Trump’s classified documents case, ruling that the appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith was unconstitutional. “The Special Counsel’s position effectively usurps that important legislative authority, transferring it to a Head of Department, and in the process threatening the structural liberty inherent in the separation of powers,” Cannon wrote in her decision. “He can be appointed and confirmed through the default method prescribed in the Appointments Clause, as Congress has directed for United States Attorneys throughout American history.” “Dismissal of this action is the only appropriate solution for the Appointments Clause violation.” The ruling comes after Judge Cannon had indefinitely postponed the trial, and followed a May hearing in which Trump and co-defendant Walt Nauta argued that the Justice Department’s Special Counsel’s Office decision to prosecute the valet was “both selective and vindictive.”

The ruling marks another blockbuster legal victory for Trump, following the Supreme Court’s July 1 ruling that the former president has immunity from prosecution for many of his actions in office. According to Reuters, prosecutors are likely to appeal the ruling, as courts in other cases have repeatedly upheld the ability of the DOJ to appoint special counsels for politically sensitive investigations. But Cannon’s ruling throws the future of the case, which once posed serious legal peril for Trump, into doubt. Smith is also prosecuting Trump in federal court in Washington over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, but his lawyers have not made a similar challenge to the special counsel in that case.

In the documents case, Trump was indicted on charges that he willfully retained sensitive national security documents at his Mar-a-Lago social club after leaving office and obstructed government efforts to retrieve the material. Trump’s attorneys challenged the legal authority of Biden AG Merrick Garland’s 2022 decision to appoint Smith – arguing that the appointment violated the Constitution because his office was not created by Congress, nor was Smith confirmed by the Senate.

Meanwhile, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas also boosted Trump’s challenge – directly questioning the constitutionality of Smith’s appointment. Thomas used similar arguments to those made by Trump’s legal team.

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Ha! They pull their no. 1 show just “to provide coverage via a single news feed..”

MSNBC Yanks Morning Joe On Fears Of Inappropriate Trump Shooting Comments (ZH)

MSNBC has taken its celebrated “Morning Joe” off-air on Monday reportedly on fears that their well-known leftist hosts could say the wrong thing or something deeply insensitive about the Saturday Trump assassination attempt which could leave the network in a bind. The show is missing in action on this crucial day of the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. “The progressive news network confirmed the decision to preempt its influential and top-rated morning show after a CNN inquiry Sunday evening,” CNN confirms. “The network said the show will resume airing Tuesday.” As speculation abounds, and as some try to dubiously claim that it’s ‘normal’ for Morning Joe to not air during a major political news event, NBC issued the following statement: “Given the gravity and complexity of this unfolding story, NBC News, NBC News NOW and MSNBC have remained in rolling breaking news coverage since Saturday evening,” a spokesperson said.

The press release followed with: “As we continue to cover this story into the week, the networks will continue to cross simulcast, alternating between NBC News, NBC News NOW and ‘MSNBC Reports,’ so there is one news feed covering this developing situation.” CNN then admitted the following based on one of its sources: “A person familiar with the matter told CNN that the decision was made to avoid a scenario in which one of the show’s stable of two dozen-plus guests might make an inappropriate comment on live television that could be used to assail the program and network as a whole.” Indeed there is a long history of show hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski making astounding and highly incendiary claims which leave network executives facing scrutiny and having to field difficult questions. At the very least, the decision to pull the program on Monday displays lack of trust in the long-running program and hosts by top network leadership.

Conservative pundit Laura Loomer sounded off in wake of the decision, pointing out the following: “MSNBC has pulled Morning Joe off air this week because they don’t think their leftist hosts can control themselves from celebrating the attempted assassination of President Trump. Let’s be honest. The rhetoric from MSDNC, CNN, WAPO, NY TIMES and Joe Biden is a contributing factor to why Donald Trump almost had a bullet in his skull this week. They have been inciting violence against Trump for years, calling him Hitler, saying he’s a dictator and a “threat to democracy”. The shooter was probably even a Morning Joe viewer. I’d be willing to take that bet.”

Ironically some on the Left are miffed at the display of obvious lack of trust, with Liberal journalist Jeff Jarvis questioning on X, “What the f—, MSNBC? You preempted your excellent weekend programming… and now you’ve silenced [Morning Joe] in favor of your anodyne streaming news cos-play called Now?” “This is when we need the analysis and conversation these shows bring us (yes, with controversy; that is how public discourse works through it: with discussion),” he continued. “It is shocking that NBC/Comcast do not understand their own company’s programs and raison d’etre.” But again, MSNBC has not alluded to any deeper reasons behind temporarily pulling the program other than to say it wishes to provide coverage via a single news feed.

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Media.

There’s Another Culprit In The Trump Murder Attempt (Bridge)

Americans from across the political spectrum were treated to yet more evidence that Donald Trump is an invincible force that cannot be easily reckoned with. But this perception will do little to mitigate the media hostility that poisons the US political scene. Everyone knew it was just a matter of time. Trump, who was addressing a crowd of supporters in Butler, Pennsylvania, was grazed by an assassin’s bullet during a campaign speech (how the would-be killer managed to get so close to the Republican frontrunner amid an army of Secret Service agents is a question for another day). What must concern Americans now is what exactly triggered this latest display of political violence. Several commentators pointed to reckless remarks Joe Biden made on a call with donors earlier this month, when the incumbent leader reportedly said: “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump… So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”

JD Vance, the senator from Ohio and a top contender to be Trump’s running mate, said in a statement on X (formerly Twitter): “The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination.” While that is true, it is the media that happily promulgates such dangerous messages and which must be held at least partially responsible for the atmosphere of hate that now permeates the US political scene. While we constantly hear reports about unhinged individuals being ‘politically motivated,’ how about we give more attention to those who have been ‘media motivated’?

For starters, consider last month’s issue of the New Republic, a left-leaning political journal that featured on its cover a portrait of Trump made to resemble Adolf Hitler along with the inscription, “American fascism, what it would look like.” One month later and on the day of the shooting, the journal was whistling a different tune. “As I write these words, we don’t know what motivated 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks to try to assassinate Trump,” wrote the TNR columnist Michael Tomasky, feigning ignorance and disbelief. “But whatever his motivation turns out to be, his act not isolated (sic)… I’d write that we’re about to enter a very dark period, but in fact we entered it long ago, and there’s no end in sight.”

You don’t say, Michael? As to be expected, there was no sign of Trump sporting the Hitler moustache to accompany the article. After reading literally hundreds of such hypocritical pieces that totally lack self-awareness, it becomes more obvious that the entire political field is rigged in favor of one team, namely the Democrats, over those of the Republicans. While the two factions enjoy roughly 50% support of the electorate, it’s no secret (although a great mystery) that the liberal left enjoys far greater public reach due to its overwhelming control of the national media. Thus, Democrats have much greater trust in the media since it generally reflects their own values.

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“..based on a realistic assessment of the situation” and on setting “realistic goals..”

Orban Delivers Ukraine Peace Proposals To EU (RT)

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has sent proposals to EU leaders on ways to resolve the Ukrainian conflict, newspaper Magyar Nemzet reported on Monday, citing the PM’s political adviser Balazs Orban. The proposals are said to be based on the results of the premier’s controversial peace mission earlier this month, during which he visited Ukraine, Russia, and China. Orban provided EU leaders with a detailed account of his visits, and delivered Budapest’s action plan to their desks, Balazs Orban (no relation) told the newspaper. The adviser described Budapest’s proposals as being “based on a realistic assessment of the situation” and on setting “realistic goals,” without elaborating further. Balazs Orban claimed that there are “pro-war” political forces in the EU, and that the bloc is following the lead of the current US administration, which, he said, wants the conflict to continue.

”If Europe wants peace and wants to have a decisive say in the settlement of the war [in Ukraine] and the end of the bloodshed, then the change of course must be worked out and implemented now,” the adviser said. Hungary is one of the few member states to criticize the bloc’s stance on the conflict. Budapest has refused to go along with Brussels and send weapons to Kiev. It has also stalled financial aid to Ukraine. Viktor Orban’s recent visit to Moscow was condemned by senior EU figures, with Brussels seeking to distance itself from Orban’s efforts. According to the prime minister’s adviser, external mediators, such as China and Türkiye, could be vital to helping negotiate peace.

Hungary plans to use the six months of its rotating presidency of the, which began in July, to create conditions for peace talks. “If the union does not act now, it may not be able to act later,” Balazs Orban warned. During his visit to Kiev, the Hungarian leader called on Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire with Russia, a proposal the latter rejected. President Putin has repeatedly insisted that the hostilities can only end if Ukraine fulfills several of Russia’s demands – including legally binding guarantees that Kiev will not seek NATO membership, and the withdrawal of troops from the whole of Donbass, as well as the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. Kiev, along with its Western backers, have rejected the proposal, calling it an unacceptable ultimatum.

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They want NO FUTURE. None.

Ex-US NATO Ambassador Tells Ukraine To Conscript Teenagers (RT)

Kiev should send 18-year-olds to fight Russia to increase the likelihood of victory, former US ambassador to NATO Ivo Daalder has argued. Earlier this year, Ukraine lowered the draft threshold from 27 to 25 years as part of a major overhaul of the military service system, aimed at boosting mobilization rates. “This is a war being fought by 40-year-olds,” Daalder told Euronews on the sidelines of last week’s NATO summit in the US. “No other war in history has been fought by 40-year-olds.” “You need to get 18-year-olds, and you need to get 20-year-olds, and you need to get 21-year-olds, which is what every army in the rest of the world relies on,” he added. Both Russia and Ukraine have a system of mandatory conscription of young adult males, but 18-years-olds are not deployed to the frontline by either country.

Moscow has said it fully relies on contracted volunteers rather than mobilized reservists in the conflict with its NATO-backed neighbor, with roughly 1,000 people recruited per day, according to senior Russian officials. Daalder served as the US ambassador under President Barack Obama. He currently heads the Chicago Council of Global Affairs, a prominent corporate-funded think tank known for a hawkish foreign policy. Kiev has reformed its military since suffering significant casualties during last year’s failed attempt to push back Russian forces using Western-donated weapons. Draft avoidance emerged as a major problem, with many Ukrainian men risking their lives trying to cross the western border illegally. Weeks before Vladimir Zelensky signed into law the lowering of the draft age, US Senator Lindsey Graham urged him to do so during a trip to Kiev.

He said: “I would hope that those eligible to serve in the Ukrainian military would join. I can’t believe it’s at 27. You’re in a fight for your life, so you should be serving – not at 25 or 27.” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken urged Ukrainian citizens to embrace the new rules, after they took effect in May. “Your recent mobilization was a difficult decision, but a necessary one,” he said in a speech at a prestigious Ukrainian university. Joining the military will “allow you to harden your defenses, to build more units, to take the fight to Russian aggressors.” Ukrainian lawmaker Roman Lozinsky said last month that a further reduction of the draft age was possible “if we are still fighting for our existence.” His political party Golos is widely considered to be aligned with US interests in the country.

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“The Global Alliance for Responsible Media is too sophisticated to simply bullhorn groups into silence. Instead, it strangles them financially.”

Elon Musk is Right: End the Online Censorship Racket (Turley)

Few Americans have ever heard of the Global Alliance for Responsible Media, let alone understand how it shapes what they read and hear in news and commentary. That may soon change. An alarming new report of the House Judiciary Committee details this organization’s work to censor conservative and opposing viewpoints in the media by targeting figures such as Joe Rogan and entire social media platforms such as X (formerly Twitter). It is part of a massive censorship system that a federal court recently described as “Orwellian.” The sophistication of this system makes authoritarian regimes like China’s and Iran’s look like mere amateurs in censorship and blacklisting. In my new book, “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in the Age of Rage,” I discuss our history of speech crackdowns and how this is arguably the most dangerous anti-free speech period that we have faced as a nation. The reason is an unprecedented alliance of government, corporate, academic and media institutions supporting censorship and the targeting of largely conservative viewpoints.

As discussed in the book, there is a crushing irony to the current anti-free speech movement. During the Red Scare and the McCarthy period, it was the left that was targeted with blacklisting, censorship and arrests. It is now the left that has constructed a global censorship system that exceeds anything that Joe McCarthy even dreamt of in the control of news and commentary. Through the years, I have testified repeatedly in Congress on this system supported enthusiastically by President Biden and his administration. It has proven to be a frustrating game of whack-a-mole for civil libertarians. The Democrats in Congress have uniformly opposed any investigation or action on censorship while denying for years that there was a coordinated effort between government and corporations. When we were successful in uncovering components of this system, they were often quickly shut down as the work shifted to other components and assets.

One of the most insidious efforts has been to strangle the financial life out of conservative or libertarian sites by targeting their donors and advertisers. This is where the left has excelled beyond anything that has come before in speech crackdowns. Years ago, I wrote about the Biden administration supporting efforts like the Global Disinformation Index to discourage advertisers from supporting certain sites. All of the 10 riskiest sites targeted by the index were popular with conservatives, libertarians and independents. That included Reason.org and a group of libertarian and conservative law professors who simply write about cases and legal controversies. The Global Disinformation Index warned advertisers against “financially supporting disinformation online.” At the same time, HuffPost, a far-left media outlet, was included among the 10 sites at lowest risk of spreading disinformation.

Once that index’s work and bias was disclosed, government officials quickly disavowed the funding. It was a familiar pattern. Within a few years, we found that the work had been shifted instead to groups like the Global Alliance for Responsible Media, which is the same thing on steroids. It is the creation of a powerful and largely unknown group called the World Federation of Advertisers, which has huge sway over the advertising industry and was quickly used by liberal activists to silence opposing views and sites by cutting off their revenue streams. These censorship groups typically proclaim that they are merely trying to promote “brand safety” when they target for suppression the same sites that challenge the political and media establishment. The group states that it “unites marketers, media agencies, media platforms, industry associations, and advertising technology solutions providers to safeguard the potential of digital media by reducing the availability and monetization of harmful content online.”

That “harmful content” seems to be the very same sites long targeted by the Biden administration and its allies in business, the media and academia. The internal communications of these censorship groups demonstrate their contributors’ underlying agenda. In one conversation between Global Alliance for Responsible Media co-founder Rob Rakowitz and individuals with an associated “GroupM,” two executives explained to Rakowitz how they identified sites that they did not like and simply monitored them until they could find something that crossed the line. An example is the Daily Wire, a site hated by liberals for its conservative viewpoints and critiques of mainstream media.

In describing how they work to bag such sites, John Montgomery, executive vice president of Global Brand Safety, explained: “There is an interesting parallel here with Breitbart. Before Breitbart crossed the line and started spouting blatant misinformation, we had long discussions about whether we should include them on our exclusion lists. As much as we hated their ideology and bulls–t, we couldn’t really justify blocking them for misguided opinion. We watched them very carefully and it didn’t take long for them to cross the line.” In other words, they preselected the sites and then followed their every move like a patrol unit following a car to wait for them to go one mile per hour over the limit. This is called “deplatforming,” a favorite term from higher education, whereby liberal groups organize to shout down and block speakers with opposing views. The Global Alliance for Responsible Media is too sophisticated to simply bullhorn groups into silence. Instead, it strangles them financially.

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  • #163852
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @oxymoron
    Oops, my apologies!. In reading your FULL post I see that we share the same reality on that adrenochrome issue. Sorry. I should be more careful.

    #163853
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Ukraine’s intelligence sources are “taking credit” for botched assassination attempt on trump. How Lame is that? CIA needs better talent on their Ukraine PsyOps & Propaganda Desk.

    #163854
    tboc
    Participant

    after carefully considering the script, the staging, the lighting, the orchestration and timing there is only one organization that could pull this BS off credibly
    The Vatican
    We have the funny hats, several miracles, a crucifixion, revivification and an ordination. All of this accompanied by dogma, doctrine and ritualized worship. Denial of a false prophet(Joe Vigano Biden)and a litany of the saints. A college of ring kissing cardinals(NATO/EU) which authorizes an inquisition against against a heretic(Orban). Organized for the the defeat of a devil(Putin). Destruction of Anglo/ Protestantism and conversion by rifle fire as the foundation of the catechism. An organization that knows the long game. The frosting on the cake, submission to patriarchy.

    “How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?”
    -Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, ‘A Sign Of Four’.

    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. – Thompson

    #163855
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Maybe part of the adrenachrome doubt is just …why? Why bother with such ridiculous disgusting effort, what marginal gains are there vs cocaine?

    And there’s tradeoffs. If it is the most marvelous thing evar then it is the most horrible thing evar. Monks and stoics who haven’t set their bar for pleasure at its highest setting can enjoy a bird landing on their windowsill or a sunset in a way others can’t.

    Or one of the main reasons society is collapsing – the internet and dating apps exaggerate hypergamy out of all proportion, a woman who is only a 6 or 7 out of 10 sleeps with a male 9 or 10 as a one night stand and then stays on her highest setting for the rest of her life, never able to settle down with a fellow 6 or 7, never to have a man of her own, always to share any man she can bring herself to accept – on her highest setting (but never have, only sleep with) with 20-30 women, as if in a harem, but with more chaos and uncertainty, until she hits the wall and cannot compete with younger 6’s and 7’s

    Realization she SHOULD settle (ie settle down!) occurs around the time it is too late …because the realization is forced on her BY it being too late. And so saying “I can have it all” and “slut-shaming is misogyny” and just going for the one night stand 9 or 10 leaves her with very little of substance for the rest of her life. Anyone who tells her try stop sleeping around, find a decent dude at your own number or 1 level up/down is just crazy. What are you talking about? I had a 10 right here in my bed!

    (the 10 men are either happily married (scooped up by high value women) OR they’re Chad running around having fun with hordes of women inexplicably willing to throw themselves at him because internet and apps and strong, empowered never settle. But why would a 10 that wants to settle down NOT be settled-down? With someone over 7. They’re the ones who hold the cards after all

    And that’s just what’s available, found in nature.

    A 10 man instead of a matching number on a 10 point scale burns out the romance-receptors sometimes PERMANENTLY. Traditions, it turns out, are solutions to problems we forgot we had. It was never literally about an intact hymen, but maybe women, being half of society, benefitted from standards as well as men? Maybe even arranged marriage was a defense against this awful, despair-inducing cul-de-sac? Your family shops around, negotiates the best-status mate they can for you. Then you have a man that is YOURS and you don’t end up being spat out the middle aged end of a chaotic war of all-women-against-all-women-as-dating. Bad choices happen there too, but statistically, I wonder which ones allow more and which allow less.

    How many tiktoks etc are there of women confiding to camera “I’m broken and miserable” citing the dating experience described above? Near-infinite now? And ALSO any old-fashioned moralistic warnings of “that behavior will ruin you” is bad and wrong, sexist. Traditions are just solutions to problems we forgot we had. This is disappointing to an atheist libertine, but there it is. You, I, we, are human and we have a particular nature.

    And SELF-avowed ruination resulted from a 1-3 point jump up a 10 point scale????

    adrenachrome is presumably 1000 on a 10 point scale? 10,000? what fool would WILLINGLY ruin their life? A nanosecond of it would do so.

    #163856
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Titles:

    “Phone of Suspected Shooter Who Allegedly Damaged Trump’s Ear Yields No Clues”

    Thomas’s father turned his son in to police earlier in the afternoon on the day of the shooting in Butler.

    “Secret Cervix Director Vows to Investigate What Happened But Refuses to Resign”

    “Secret Cervix”

    “Mad Cow Disease Because PMS was Already Taken”

    It’s civil war.
    Don’t kid yourself.
    Here in Butler all the people are depressed about its sudden international notoriety for evenly divided reasons.
    Ppl die during war.
    As the Israelis say to Palestinian parents, “Get over it!”

    No reason to fear JD HAMEL IS HERE

    #163857
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    When you cruise the net you use search engines and apps which you think are returning results that you probably think are at least CLOSE to the search results that you asked for.

    THAT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE CASE.

    The apps, browser and search engines are using carefully (and that’s an understatement if I ever made one) designed algorithms to show you only the results that the algorithm’s designers DESIGNED the algo to send to YOU, as personally tailored for YOUR consumption as possible. The AI isn’t perfect, but it’s as good as they can make it.

    In other words :

    The internet’s various services are telling DIFFERENT stories to DIFFERENT sides (as well as they can design and program it to do so.) You might dismiss the notion that the Bad Guys would go to so much trouble. To which I would have to ask, well how many of the marbles are we playing for? Oh! Is this “game” being played for ALL of the marbles? Well in that case then I reckon that the effort the Bad Guys would go to are pretty much as much effort as they can POSSIBLY muster up.

    So yeah, a big part of the reason that the deranged ‘Left’ is deranged in the first place is because they are being spoon fed with data that is DESIGNED to derange their already feeble little brains. Take that into account. It’s why Jesus on the cross asked that his tormentors be forgiven “… for they know not what they do.”

    More on that later, because as we catch those Bad Guys the question of what to do with them becomes more pertinent, and it is IMPORTANT that we do the right thing with them (meaning: do the right thing, which works, and not do the wrong things that DON’T work.)

    #163858
    chooch
    Participant

    Let’s see the photo.

    #163859
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I watched a bit of the RNC last night.

    One Republican speaker: “America was a racist country. A very very racist country”

    WHAT? You want to give that stereotype to the Democrats for free?

    I suggest this:

    America was a racist country. A very very racist country. Fortunately, we Republicans overcame it

    —by Republicans blocking the Democrat push to create more slave states to spread slavery
    — Republicans soldiering on, fighting the good fight against slavery against Democrat successes in suborning the Federal government into support of Slavery such as in the Dredd Scott case
    — Republicans defeating the Slave States, who openly stated in their Declarations of Independence that they had seceded for slavery.
    — Republicans, passing laws to forever outlaw slavery in these united states
    —Republicans standing up against Democrats trying to stop Black voters from exercising their citizenship rights by passing the Civil Rights act of 1957 over their opposition.
    —Republicans, in support of the Supreme Court decision, thwarting Democrat efforts to block integration of schools, even if Eisenhower had to bring in the 101st Airborne with fixed bayonets to defend school children from Democrats, we did it, Republicans, we did it!
    —And through passage of the Civil Rights act of 1964, when 1/3 of Democrats voted against the bill. We were in the minority then, only 33 out of 100 seats, but by god we got that bill passed with 4/5 republicans pulling for civil rights.

    And today, the Democrats again want to judge people based on immutable characteristics, elevate these to primary overriding importance, run our governments, businesses, and social institutions on that basis – just like in dark days we Republicans fought to end.

    Try something like THAT you idiots. “America was a very very racist country.” Are you with BLM-Antifa? Do you hate your own party, hate winning, love punching yourself in the face?

    Like if you are going to do weird overdone spin, you want to do it on behalf of your political opponents?

    #163860
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “….and in 2020, I saw my black brothers and sisters rising up against systemic racism – they’d had enough, folks!! — that they were experiencing in cities all over our land – run by Democrats for the past half century police departments overseen by Democrat city councils and Democrat mayors, operating based on Democrat approved policies and procedures… our black children left unprepared by a school system run by an overwhelmingly Democrat-voting teachers union enacting Democrat promoted policies that made it so every year, education for our aspiring black children was worse than the year before…”

    Right, Republican? Want to try any of THAT? No, just get up and say on international television your unqualified, non partial condemnation of your country?

    Your candidate got shot. Do you think you might want to take off the kid gloves and run with “Democrat = racist” and then when they object to “improper tone” or say such talk is violence, just keep hammering away at their hypocrisy? No? You want to NOT do the obvious thing, the thing it is TIME for, prefer punching yourself in the face? We Republicans ALSO hate America?

    #163861
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @Dr D Rich

    “Secret Cervix”

    Hahahahahahahaha!

    Good one.

    When it comes to hard core security assets, I’ll have the Testosterone please, thank you very much.

    “Do you want fries with that?”

    Yes

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    #163862
    jb-hb
    Participant

    better yet

    “…even if Eisenhower had to bring in the 101st Airborne with fixed bayonets to defend school children from Democrats — and we sure could use SOME kind of defense for school children from Democrats again today, couldn’t we folks? Couldn’t we? (arms raised in “amirite?” gestire, knowing look, waits for massive applause to die down…) — but we did it, Republicans, we did it! We made school integration happen…. Republicans – AMERICANS have so, so much progress in civil rights to be proud of.”

    Republicans: retarded losing losers who love losing.

    #163863
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #163864
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @oroboros

    I definitely can’t take credit for Secret Cervix.
    Brilliant imagery out of recent events belongs to someone else.

    I do know my older sister and grandmother laughed heartily at the PMS-Mad Cow Disease quip.

    #163865
    John Day
    Participant

    I contribute this to the commentariat:
    JFK Jr. and the Jewish Curse on the Kennedys
    https://www.unz.com/article/jfk-jr-and-the-jewish-curse-on-the-kennedys/

    #163866
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    More titles:

    “Mostly  Peaceful Attempted Assassination”

    “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest

    “What we want from the butcher, the brewer, and the baker are beef, beer, and bread, not for them to be fabulously wealthy shop owners”

    And for not begrudging them their pursuit of profits above all else we got in return fabulously wealthy shop owners, exorbitantly price eats and drinks and their self-interest shoved in our faces as if they were bestowing benevolence on the serfs.

    #163867
    tboc
    Participant

    you guy’s really should get out of the cave every now and then – Socrates

    #163868
    WES
    Participant

    Speaking of Ike, the damaged aircraft carrier, has anyone seen any news or pictures of Ike’s extended visit to Germany for repairs?

    Gold making USDs push up daisies today.

    #163869
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Doctors, nurses and hospital administrators are the worst purveyors of this faux benevolence……. and overpriced healthcare

    #163870
    tboc
    Participant

    One Republican speaker: “America was a racist country. A very very racist country”

    quite a few citizens of the US still believe the US Civil War was about slavery
    about the same number as believe there are two politcal parties in the US
    that number of citizens is smaller than the number who believe there was once a free press
    and that number is dwarfed by the number of dumbasses that think The United States should be a democracy.
    Never forget the same group that determines the majority counts the votes
    and you can be sure that the majority of the putzez calling for democracy don’t know a single Boss Tweed quote or Stalin’s infamous perspective on voting
    Opinions might be compared to elbows, most everyone has a couple of em
    bein’ white don’t getcha into the Massah Club, that requires mastering the art of fellatio and tea bagging or the ability to comb your eyebrows with your tongue and being, as Lowell George put it, “Willin”
    the only way to win is not to play, knowing no one gives a fuck about you – not even you if your peers think you are a success

    as Samuel Jackson phrased it in Pulp Fiction – “English motherfucker, do you speak it?”

    #163871
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    …more and more and more Titles:

      A Time of Shame and Sorrow: When It Comes to Political Violence, We All Lose

      By John W. Whitehead and Nisha Whitehead

    Who is the we doing the losing?
    Certainly not Obama nor Bush2 who authorized and politically benefitted (each enjoyed 8 years in office) from killing many, many people. Again, Obama’s authorization to kill US citizens 9yo Nawar and 16yo Abdulrahman al-Awlaki stand out as the most heinous of many heinous acts. Obama will never rot in a jail until dead because the world, not just the United States lacks the political will and fortitude.

    From The Whitehead’s essay:

    “There’s a subtext to this assassination attempt on former President Trump that must not be ignored, and it is simply this: America is being pushed to the brink of a national nervous breakdown.”

    Really?
    A national nervous breakdown?
    Is being pushed? Passively? Passive voice?

    Pushed by whom?

    #163872
    jb-hb
    Participant

    quite a few citizens of the US still believe the US Civil War was about slavery

    secession was. they told you in their declarations of independence

    also, when Eastern Tennessee asked to secede from slave owning Western Tennessee, they were denied. It was self-determination and independence! Rights! (no, not THAT self determination, self-determination to continue owning slaves, independence… to own slaves. Property rights… to human beings)

    It was about State’s Rights – except when the Dredd Scott ruling enslaved ALL northerners to enforce slavery for the slave states in states where slavery was ILLEGAL. On pain of penury and imprisonment. Not even just govt authorities. ANYONE AND EVERYONE. Church bells pealing all over the South for this victory over states. This victory of authority over every individual human act of conscience and independent moral thought.

    And when West Virginia seceded, Slave Owning Virginia was like, oh ho, Self Determination, our most valued precept! Just Want To Go On Your Own Way. Godspeed and our blessings upon you? Cosmic coincidence, nope.

    POWER determined whether East Tennessee could not or West Virginia could secede – a right the slave states said people had!!! If the slave states had the power to STOP this right, they DID.

    The war as opposed to secession? Ask the people who chose to start firing. After Bleeding Kansas, beating a defenseless old man almost to death with a cane merely for thinking you are doing something evil by being pro-slavery – what an insult to “honor” – to enslaving the entire North to pro slavery laws, on and on. Once they started firing, we’d already had enough.

    Much like the mind-possessing body-enslaving Witches in Harvey Weinstien’s acolyte’s Acolyte, couldn’t imagine being confronted with a peer opponent. Every previous compromise and backing-down only adding to the impression one was confronting spineless cowards. FAFO.

    #163877
    Oroboros
    Participant

    So I was looking to the stars for divine guidance on Humanities short comings.

    A message, a sacred sign, something to pin some hope on.

    I thought, Crop Circles, that’s the ticket!

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    The Holy Hummer
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    Shiva on My Mind
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    A High Sperm Count
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    The God’s of Country & Western
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    #163878
    Oroboros
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    #163879
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “POWER determined whether East Tennessee could not or West Virginia could secede”

    I think you made his point for him.

    #163880
    Mr. House
    Participant

    The corporate system is doing currently what it has always done, protect its power. The Civil War was about power, nothing more nothing less. The slavery addendum was so that people could pretend that morals and virtue had something to do with it and those 600,000 didn’t just die for powers sake.

    #163881
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “POWER determined whether East Tennessee could not or West Virginia could secede”

    I think you made his point for him.

    You are missing a key element to this situation.

    The people of these regions wanted to secede.. FROM THE CONFEDERACY

    #163882
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The Civil War was about power, nothing more nothing less

    The declarations of independence of the Confederate states are on record. They TELL YOU the secession was for slavery. You can only remain unaware of this by refusing to read them

    The US Postal Service continued to deliver mail after secession. Lots of correspondence between leaders of the North and South which have been preserved and are available to anyone to read. The Southerners TELL YOU their reasons.

    And just look at their actions. “self-determination” but not for thee. For rights. What rights? Property rights. What property rights? Rights to human property. State’s rights to what? Determining what is property and property rights. they TELL YOU SO.

    #163883
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Maybe a troll but still hilarious

    So Secret Service didn’t post anyone on the roof because they might fall?

    Hahahahaha

    WTF

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    #163884
    Mr. House
    Participant

    ” I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

    I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.”

    #163885
    jb-hb
    Participant

    When POWER determined whether East Tennessee or West Virginia could secede FROM THE CONFEDERACY, you purposely step over the point:

    These “self-determination” Southern champions “fighting against power” blocked self-determination wherever power allowed them to do so.

    Cosmic coincidence, those regions who wanted to have Slavery be illegal were those regions they didn’t want to act on the basis of self-determination.

    #163886
    Mr. House
    Participant

    JB HB, why won’t the system reform itself now? The rules, as stated said you go bankrupt thems the breaks. Why did we bail out those banks in 08? The reason we’ve all been coming here for over a decade. What is debt in our society for those who wield it? Why did we gin up hysteria in 2020? None of these things were because of power? Why do marriages end? Why do friendships end? Power, the one common thread in all human disputes.

    #163887
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Trump shooter

    Didn’t fall far from the tree

    Just sayin’

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    #163888
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Would you say the balance of power between males and females is equal in our current day (since you ranted about it earlier)?

    #163889
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Lincoln wasn’t an idiot and wanted to abolish slavery on the British model rather than have a Civil War killing hundreds of thousands of people? Gasp, he must have been pro slavery.

    Republican party forms on the basis of anti slavery

    Republican wins presidential election

    Slave states secede in response

    Slave states TELL YOU in their declarations of independence, correspondence of their leaders, diaries, op-eds in newspapers etc, near-infinite explanations on WHY so you ought to have no illusions

    But Lincoln prefers to preserve the union – ie NOT have war.

    The South had already invaded Cuba several times attempting to set up more slave states. The idea of a Manifest Destiny, expansion southward to the Magellan, to establish an empire of slavery was making the rounds.

    There are some compelling quotes along those lines from Lincoln about what happens if the Confederacy goes their own way – you’re unaware of them? You ARE aware of them but cherry pick these others disingenuously?

    #163890
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Light at the End of the Tunnel

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    #163891
    Mr. House
    Participant

    You live in a giant high school, was power wielded by popular kids in high school? That is human nature, and you will never change it. A very rare small number of people on this earth can probably wield power in the name of justice. It’s like a comment you see on those videos you watch about women on youtube. “not all women are like this” (said in disgust) but enough of them are that it is a problem.

    #163892

    We’ve overplayed our gimmicks
    We go where we’re not wanted
    We try to gather mimics
    And we keep them sorely daunted

    We’ve killed for loot and treasure
    All boundaries get erased
    We sell our souls for pleasure
    While our friendships are defaced.

    The future signals what we have in store:
    We will not be an empire anymore.

    #163893
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I”m not even sure what you’re arguing dude. The war wasn’t about power but pure unblemished morals?

    #163894
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I”m not even sure what you’re arguing dude. The war wasn’t about power but pure unblemished morals?

    You think if power determines who wins or loses, that it is ABOUT power?

    I talk about my Volga-Deutsche family here because it’s most relevant to current-year marxism, but the other side of my family were devout protestant dutch, practically straight off the boat, strong believers in the equality of men under God.

    WE’RE the reason you lost Missouri almost instantaneously upon starting the war. We’re the ones who steamrolled you in the West while McClellan and others were gazing at their navels.

    We joined to end slavery AND WE DID. Lost lives, limbs, sanity. “it wasn’t about slavery” but we sang anti-slavery songs as we marched TO OUR DOOM. And then we ended slavery, cosmic coincidence.

    And they TOLD YOU why they did it. What their exercise of power was FOR. You have to refuse to read their own words to not know.

    #163895
    Mr. House
    Participant

    The war was fought over who would control the federal government, nothing more nothing less. You disagree? My family fought for the north by the way.

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